Hopefully, 'best in village' will be enough, considering Hiruzen did manage two ninjutsu of different elements at the same time (it's canon in this Quest. I've decided).
It's worth noting that Hiruzen's mastery of all 5 elements was one of his signature (Techniques? Achievements?), so he would be more likely to look into this than any other ninja alive. Except possibly Mei, because if it ever occurred to her, combining 2 bloodline elements would have the potential to be pretty nuts.
 
Note: Writing Omake one. Has been fighting me every single word. Never again am I doing a Naruto Omake. Might have to change the second one. And still need to decide what to do with the third one.
 
I think you're getting confused between Bloodlines like Lava Release etc. - which makes a new element from two basic elements - and using two separate elements at once, e.g. rock and fire. I don't see any reason why we couldn't do the latter?
Have we ever seen a Ninjutsu that uses two elements at once that WASN'T a bloodline?

I have to say that it seems to be a difference between clan bloodlines like the Uchiha Sharingan, Kaguya Shikotsumyaku, or Hōzuki liquidification, and bloodlines like the element combination, in the sense that unlike the clan bloodlines who are totally related to the genetic information from the parents, elemental combination seems to be more of an individual quirk than anything else.

I mean all Uchiha has the potential of unlocking the Sharingan, all the Aburame can control bugs etc. But in the case of the advanced element combinations the boundries are much less clear, for example, the first Hokage mokuton seems was completely unique of him and it was neither inherited from his clan nor transmitted to his children. On the other hand we have cases of people not related by blood or even from different clans who has the same combined element bloodline, like the third and fourth Kazekages who both had magnet release and were not related, the same happened with the third Raikage and Darui who both had storm release, and the same with the second and third Tsuchikages who were not related and both possess the particle release (and despite being his grandaughter Kurotsuchi cannot use particle), and this is especially interesting, there were 3 villages who had Lava release users, despite not being related at all.

What I mean is that elemental combination seems less of a power passed down through a family lineage and more like being lucky enough to win a genetic lottery, if that is the case maybe Rin may or may not be capable of having one or more elemental combination releases, all depends on the decision of the QM.

But I have to say it would be pretty cool to see Rin using crystal release, and it would be very related of her family gem based magecraft.
 
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@Fanhunter696 No, the elemental releases are bloodlines. Orochimaru's little experiment proved that. It's weird honestly, just how recessive a trait the Wood Release was.

Honestly I'd argue that bloodline releases are based on Chakra. And thus you need a certain set of genetics from the physical part of your body to use it.
 
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...The Third Raikage couldn't use Storm Release. You confused it with Black Lightning, which is a (series of?) technique(s), not a Bloodline.

The Third and the Fourth Kazekage may or may not have been part of the same clan.

Otherwise, yes, it seems like elemental bloodlines are something different to other bloodlines, at least Kekkei Tota (three-nature combinations) are.

As for Rin getting another bloodline: isn't the Sharingan and her Uzumaki lineage enough?
 
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@Fanhunter696 No, the elemental releases are bloodlines. Orochimaru's little experiment proved that. It's weird honestly, just how recessive a trait the Wood Release was.

Honestly I'd argue that bloodline releases are based on Chakra. And thus you need a certain set of genetics from the physical part of your body to use it.
I accept that they are bloodlines in the sense that you need to be genetically predisposed to use that release, what I am saying is that unlike the clan bloodlines that are directly inherited from the parents, the elemental combination seem to work like a random genetic trait that can appear within the whole ninja population with little regard to lineage, clan or village.

As for Rin getting another bloodline: isn't the Sharingan and her Uzumaki lineage enough?

First of all: The more the Merrier!

Second: given Toshaka magecraft style, crystal release would be incredibly fitting for her.

And finally: as @DarkKing98 said this is SV, we are greedy fuckers who live for the shinies.
 
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@Fanhunter696 No, the elemental releases are bloodlines. Orochimaru's little experiment proved that. It's weird honestly, just how recessive a trait the Wood Release was.
Did he? I don't quite recall how he went about it, but getting one Senju kid to use Mokuton doesn't prove that only Senju can do so.

As for Rin getting another bloodline: isn't the Sharingan and her Uzumaki lineage enough?
It's always worth trying for more, though I'd be surprised if you ok'd it.

Now, given the attitude of Maguses in FATE, following in Orochimaru's footsteps to acquire/engineer blood limits for ourself (in a less evil manner of course) would probably be reasonably in-character for Rin? At that point it's not grabbing more free stuff, it's working for it.
 
Don't worry. I will try fighting against the people that seem to think they can do typical fanon God mode sue SI/OC thing.

Don't bother. I'm QM, I get to decide whether we get more bloodlines.

I'm not going to put such a thing up to a vote.

Now, given the attitude of Maguses in FATE, following in Orochimaru's footsteps to acquire/engineer blood limits for ourself (in a less evil manner of course) would probably be reasonably in-character for Rin? At that point it's not grabbing more free stuff, it's working for it.

Too risky. When Orochimaru first tried implanting 60 infants with a bloodline, the 59 died.

We'd need to be immoral in order to survive, by experimenting on other people first to refine the process, and... that's too OOC.
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Too risky. When Orochimaru first tried implanting 60 infants with a bloodline, the 59 died.

We'd need to be immoral in order to survive, by experimenting on other people first to refine the process, and... that's too OOC.
It is out of character for Rin. Not for the average Fate Magus though. They wouldn't be bothered by that.
 
First Friend (Non-canon/Semi-canon Omake)
@AoMythology FIRE THE FIRST SHOT!

You are Uzumaki Naruto! And you are going to become Hokage one day dattebayo! Then the village will have to acknowledge your existence and respect you! You were currently enjoying some Ramen at Ichiraku's, one of the few places that actually allow you service. A place you enjoy eating at, since the chef is one of the few people that respect you.

You grin as you begin eating more eagerly. Today you had met someone who you think will actually befriend you! Her name was something Rin. She is kind of weird, but nice! So you like her.

"Oh? What's got you in such a good mood Naruto?" The chef asks in amusement.

"I made a friend my own age today!" You say cheerfully while eating.

"Oh? A friend huh? What's their name?" The chef asks surprised. You don't blame him since you were starting to lose a bit of hope too.

"Her name is Rin! She's weird but also very nice!" You say happily before remembering what she did when you last called her weird. "Uh, please don't tell her I said she was weird." You request politely.

"I won't." The chef promises laughing, making you grin.

"So yeah, she's really weird. Like she's so focused on being 'polite' and stuff." You say with annoyance. Who cares about manners besides stuffy old people?

"Sounds like a good person for you to be friends with." The chef says with a laugh. It takes you a moment to realize why.

"Hey!" You complain with a pout. That was not funny!

"Sorry, sorry." The chef apologizes chuckling. "Hey, how about next time to bring this Rin girl here and you both can get a bowl of ramen on the house?" The chef offers with a small grin.

"You got yourself a deal!" You shout energetically with a huge grin. You know Rin is going to love this place! After all, who doesn't love Ramen?

"So Naruto, you're starting the Academy next year. You think you'll see your friend there?" The cook asks you.

"Of course I will! Because a nice person like Rin-san will totally be an awesome ninja! Not as awesome as I will be of course, but still!" You state to the cook confidently. And you are confident because why wouldn't everyone want to be a ninja? The Old Man is sort of cool and he's been a ninja for years!

The cook just simply chuckles at your statement and shakes his head before allowing you to finish your Ramen.

I am not proud of this. I'd have liked another 80-120 words. But it fights me too much to try. Hope you still enjoy it though.
 
In most other cases i would argue that having a natural affinity for two or three elements at once would also mean you could also combine those, but in this case, since Rin has all five, that'd be way too much.

And i'd say having natural affinity towards all elements, even without the ability to combine them, should count as a kekkei genkai or even kekkei tota by itself. That, combined with the Shenanigan, means Rin is practically made for making combo attacks with herself. Make a clone, and then any fire jutsu can be instantly enhanced by a wind jutsu, any water jutsu could be enhanced by electric jutsu or wind jutsu, and... i admit i'm not sure how we'd enhance earth.

Also, what's everyone's thoughts about our potential Mangekyo(though we might never get it) being Kaleidoscope related? After all, 'Mangekyo Sharingan' literally means 'Kaleidoscope Copy Wheel Eye'.


@DarkKing98 I liked it! It felt very Naruto.
 
OP in Naruto isn't about what you have, it's about how you use it.

I think we should be looking to quickly create and modify elemental jutsus on the fly to solve problems, rather than lament that we don't have a bloodline we really don't need. Although an explanation of the roadblock we're facing in mixing elemental jutsus would eventually need to be provided when we run into that roadblock.

Like, once we have a water clone, I think our next goal should be taking advantage of the fact that it is made out of water to make it more dangerous, and come up with interesting ways to take advantage of it. See if it can use a lightning jutsu, so that even if it's destroyed, the person destroying it still gets shocked. Use it to augment chakra molding techniques that we cannot do by ourselves yet. Find out what happens when we add the water chakra of a water construct to fire chakra we're molding in our hands.

Creative thinking and building jutsus on the fly to solve problems as they come up, and our natural curiosity, are much more important to being a ninja than knowing a grab bag of techniques.
 
The Naruto we met is one before the acknowledgement goal, an angry Naruto, if you were. Otherwise, it was a good Omake.
 
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I figure the main barrier for multi-elemental simultaneous use(not FUSED use, you need bloodline bullshit for that), are:
-Elemental conversion is not simple unless you have a natural affinity. If you do, then its actually fairly easy, seeing as the Uchihas natural fire affinity makes a pretty hefty Fire jutsu a regular coming of age ceremony.
-Chakra multi-tasking is HARD, you can't use your normal mnemonics, because you have to learn to do all the components sealless, THEN you have to do both at once. Like juggling, juggling blindolded, riding a unicycle, riding a unicycle blindfolded, and then to actually do it in combat you're juggling while riding a unicycle while blindfolded

Rin has the first part eased, because of affinity for every element. The second part is still hell.
Though on that note the Rasengan is difficult in the same way, you need to use chakra shaping for three different tasks(Containment, Vortex, Turbulence) at the same time. And the Elemental Rasengan then has to form elemental chakra while doing the above.

Short version: Grind chakra control. Then chakra shaping. Then all the elemental ninjutsu.
 
Too risky. When Orochimaru first tried implanting 60 infants with a bloodline, the 59 died.

We'd need to be immoral in order to survive, by experimenting on other people first to refine the process, and... that's too OOC.
I was thinking more along the lines of using Magecraft to manipulate chakra than diving straight into permanent biological experimentation, but fair enough.
 
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