Zelretch took Nagato Tohsaka on as an apprentice, to teach him Magecraft (NOT True Magic). The Tohsaka crest took part of the Edelfelt crest at some point, because Rin's great-grandmother on her father's side was one and passed it on to Tokiomi's grandparent/parent. At least, that's how I remember it.

Was refering to how new/branch families get crests. Either an old one buds a blank crest for them or they need to get a phantasmal beast part to create a new one.

Odds are good Zeltretch lent them a starter.
 
@AoMythology Incredibly long-shot question: did Rin have any Command Seals left when Berserker killed her? Whilst I'd imagine summoning Saber is out of the question, the seal feels like something Rin ought to be able to do something with, as an example of some serious FATE mojo. Can she check to see if there's anything left?
 
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@AoMythology Incredibly long-shot question: did Rin have any Command Seals left when Berserker killed her? Whilst I'd imagine summoning Saber is out of the question, the seal feels like something Rin ought to be able to do something with, as an example of some serious FATE mojo. Can she check to see if there's anything left?
Why would she have a command seal? Not only is this the Naruto universe, our body and even potentially a part of our soul is different.
 
Command seals are strange things - it could have survived the reincarnation train, if Rin had any left. (SPOILER: She didn't.)
 
I'm opprating off the idea that magic ain't a thing and we don't have it. Makes the system simpler, and makes it so we don't split ourselves extremely thin.

Seriously, magecraft would be worthless trash at best. If we don't introduce outside context problems, we don't get put at the top of the 'kidnap and breed/dissect' list of every village in existence and Orochimaru.
 
I'm opprating off the idea that magic ain't a thing and we don't have it. Makes the system simpler, and makes it so we don't split ourselves extremely thin.

Seriously, magecraft would be worthless trash at best. If we don't introduce outside context problems, we don't get put at the top of the 'kidnap and breed/dissect' list of every village in existence and Orochimaru.

GM is tight-lipped on that matter.
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Nah, no need to overreact. If it is there, we'll take advantage of it; otherwise, knowledge of it is a good starting point for figuring out how to make chakra do exotic things typically out of reach for normal ninja, probably.

Speaking of that, reincarnation probably should be giving a boost to spiritual energies? I dunno.
 
That is presuming many things I do not care to have an argument about before we actually know if we got circuits or not.
 
It's not overreacting when canonically villages have kidnapped or tried to kidnap kids for their bloodlines. Magecraft as an OCP along with the Sharigan? We'd be one of the most valuable targets in the world.
Don't worry we first have to figure out how to not die in the Uchiha massacre.
Not to mention that we not going to be able to get anything interesting before we can even walk (mostly cause pushing our body to hard at this point would be bad).
 
Don't worry we first have to figure out how to not die in the Uchiha massacre.
Not to mention that we not going to be able to get anything interesting before we can even walk (mostly cause pushing our body to hard at this point would be bad).
Fair enough. Survival is important.
As an Uchiha, we already are
Not really. At the moment no one knows if we are able to use the Sharigan. If we can, we become much more valuable. If we never do and our clan didn't die? We'd be much less valuable.
 
I may close the vote a bit early (in ~16 hours from now instead of in ~32), since I've gotten a lot more votes more quickly than I expected.
(Thanks guys/girls!)
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I'm opprating off the idea that magic ain't a thing and we don't have it. Makes the system simpler, and makes it so we don't split ourselves extremely thin.

Seriously, magecraft would be worthless trash at best. If we don't introduce outside context problems, we don't get put at the top of the 'kidnap and breed/dissect' list of every village in existence and Orochimaru.
This is ridiculous. Magecraft's direct combat applications might be lacking in this setting, but the esoteric benefits are incredible. The mind control alone is S-SSS Rank.
Fair enough. Survival is important.

Not really. At the moment no one knows if we are able to use the Sharigan. If we can, we become much more valuable. If we never do and our clan didn't die? We'd be much less valuable.
We have Uchiha blood - we're a kidnap target for our breeding potential at minimum. If magecraft turns out not to be great the risk doesn't grow much, and if it is a big deal then it's obviously worth it.
 
This is ridiculous. Magecraft's direct combat applications might be lacking in this setting, but the esoteric benefits are incredible. The mind control alone is S-SSS Rank.

If Chakra users have some form of Magic Resistance, then Mental Interference magecraft is D-rank or barely above. But I didn't say if we kept our Circuits, either way, so until the time such information is revealed, the point is moot.
 
If Chakra users have some form of Magic Resistance, then Mental Interference magecraft is D-rank or barely above. But I didn't say if we kept our Circuits, either way, so until the time such information is revealed, the point is moot.
Well, we're arguing about whether it's worth even finding out if we can use Magecraft in the first place. I'm strongly in favour, but if people think it'll just be inferior to chakra in every way then whether we have Circuits or not is irrelevant because they'll never do anything with them.

Also, I'm surprised there's no form of Mental Interference capable of overcoming Magic Resistance?
 
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Well, we're arguing about whether it's worth even finding out if we can use Magecraft in the first place. I'm strongly in favour, but if people think it'll just be inferior to chakra in every way then whether we have Circuits or not is irrelevant because they'll never do anything with them.

Also, I'm surprised there's no form of Mental Interference capable of overcoming Magic Resistance?

Medea (Caster) -and likely a few other Casters from the Age of Mythology Gods- does seem to be able to overcome MR.

She said she would be able to overcome an unprepared normal Magus, IIRC. On the other hand, someone who used nerve Circuits -and thus his MR was very sub-par- was hypnotized all the way from the temple (yes, I'm talking about Shirou).

Edit: it's worth finding out; magecraft can do some conceptual bullshit that otherwise only Rinnegan users and Naruto could do similar things to.
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[X](Origin) Cheat the system
+Seriously reminds you of Archer's personality and combat style
+Front-line combat is easier for you
+Any technique classified as offensive gains a great training bonus
+Any 'support' skill gets a moderate-high malus in combat and a mild one in training, and healing is less effective when used on others
+You gain the Trait 'If you aren't cheating, you're not trying'

[X](Milk) Drink
[X](Action) Try to crawl
 
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