You can't. But I can.

There is zero chance of her dying. The worst that can happpe is a minor injury.

The worst that happens in Riddle taking her as another of his undead battle waifus. She has a divine blessing making her desirable to him.

Also if Dace dies you loose your leash on her if she looses all her progress. As of now her recovery can be continued without him (chibi is absurd in diplomacy)
 
Well this is a bit embarrassing but I'm new to the site and have no idea how to upload an image on mobile, any pointers?

Only asking because I spent two days drawing what I think Dace looks/looked like.
The problem is its pencil and paper, soooo...
Yeah.
Pls halp am noob.
 
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Well this is a bit embarrassing but I'm new to the site and have no idea how to upload an image on mobile, any pointers?

Only asking because I spent two days drawing what I think Dace looks/looked like.
The problem is its pencil and paper, soooo...
Yeah.
Pls halp am noob.

You have several options. I'm typically in the "email to myself then use a computer to upload it to an image hosting service" camp myself, but you can probably just do that through your phone. The big trick is using a hosting service that leaves images up for a long time and making sure to get the link to the image.
 
I just caught up and trying my hands on making plans.

From what i see this upcoming battle is meant to kill Dace (it will be up to dice and how much he is boosted by who stayed behind)...but it doesn't mean we want to give up the rampart to enemy, so in that regard, a plan that makes it so the enemy will not be able to take over the base yet still secure some help for chibi will be better. A middle ground so to speak.

[X] Plan for the future
-[X] Yes
--[X] Martha
-[X] No: Medium chance of death. Dace will just use spells from afar.
[X]Elizabeth
-[x] To America! (Will be safe).
[X]Oliver
-[x] Stays here and leads the Dragons: Dragons gain double attack ability ( Very high chance of injury, high chance of death.)
[X]Agatha
-[x] Stays here and organizes the defense: Defences will hold twice as long. ( Very high chance of injury, high chance of death.)
[X]Moody & Jason
-[x] Stay here and fight : Army gains 1 morale due to their inventive use of curses, both verbal and magical (Very high chances of injury, high chances of death)
[X]Lily
-[x] To America! (Will be safe).
[X] layout
-[X] Frontline : Dragons
-[X] Frontline : Wolves
-[X] Frontline: Moon does
-[X] Middle: Fairies
-[X] Middle: Treants
-[X] Backline: Elves
-[X] Backline: Druids

[X] Death Quest : Psyching up, throwing down.


Sending elizabeth and lily away, because if there's anyone who can help build things back up again, it is elizabeth and we don't want to chance giving lily to riddle nor do we want to degrade her sanity again.

No sure about battle layout, i figured faires are good at ailments and treants at immobilization, placing them in middle means they act as stall for anything that slip through for backrow to do their job, and aid frontlines(?) Unsure about treant's placement.

I am not fond of sending everyone away and leave dace and martha alone to fight ... It feels like giving up before it begun to me.
 
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I am not fond of sending everyone away and leave dace and martha alone to fight ... It feels like giving up before it begun to me.

The rampart would be safe even in the worst case scenario since Dace already prep it to be teleported to the Chibi in case of his death.

And also I actually initially plan the same with you, only sending noncombatant to the America and the rest fight it out. However, there is this comment on QQ :

I'm also a She. And no, Dace was originally set to survive this one but now he's prolly gonna die, yeah. But be positive, it won't be my choices that kill him ~!

this is when "everyone fight!" Plan is winning, this make me think he actually might have a secret weapon or an escape plan that very effective but can only be used when there is minimal amount of people.
 
The rampart would be safe even in the worst case scenario since Dace already prep it to be teleported to the Chibi in case of his death.

No, it is mentioned that /anchor/ will be teleported and that is all.
You can't teleport location/base.
Losing fountain and grail are going to hurt.
I believe we need to defend it enough that riddle's faction won't gain a foothold in there.

Losing some,winning some is a thing.

And also I actually initially plan the same with you, only sending noncombatant to the America and the rest fight it out. However, there is this comment on QQ :

this is when "everyone fight!" Plan is winning, this make me think he actually might have a secret weapon or an escape plan that very effective but can only be used when there is minimal amount of people.

My take is that is due to lack of proactive plotting against riddle (look at all those aife salt, granted she is annoyingly distracting) and if Dace died, it will all be due to dice and stack of unfavorable circumstances that don't get addressed.
So if he is to survive he will need to fight hard for it.

I am not all that upset if Dace died (this is quite a heroic way to go), he has evaded it time and time again, so latching unto him too much is unwise. He is a temporary mc afterall. At least i want to salvage the location/base or weaken opposing faction. (That's why eli and lily needs to be in safe place. To prevent riddle from getting his hands on another op waifu and eli who i judged to be capable of rebuilding what we lost and know how to keep chibi safe)

Well, there is a lot of uncertainty here due to dice rolls are the one that decide, we can only stack up things to our advantage. In seige, it is the defender that has advantage if i remember correctly, so fleeing to me is leaving a bad taste.
 
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I just caught up and trying my hands on making plans.

From what i see this upcoming battle is meant to kill Dace (it will be up to dice and how much he is boosted by who stayed behind)...but it doesn't mean we want to give up the rampart to enemy, so in that regard, a plan that makes it so the enemy will not be able to take over the base yet still secure some help for chibi will be better. A middle ground so to speak.

[X] Plan for the future
-[X] Yes
--[X] Martha
-[X] No: Medium chance of death. Dace will just use spells from afar.
[X]Elizabeth
-[x] To America! (Will be safe).
[X]Oliver
-[x] Stays here and leads the Dragons: Dragons gain double attack ability ( Very high chance of injury, high chance of death.)
[X]Agatha
-[x] Stays here and organizes the defense: Defences will hold twice as long. ( Very high chance of injury, high chance of death.)
[X]Moody & Jason
-[x] Stay here and fight : Army gains 1 morale due to their inventive use of curses, both verbal and magical (Very high chances of injury, high chances of death)
[X]Lily
-[x] To America! (Will be safe).
[X] layout
-[X] Frontline : Dragons
-[X] Frontline : Wolves
-[X] Frontline: Moon does
-[X] Middle: Fairies
-[X] Middle: Treants
-[X] Backline: Elves
-[X] Backline: Druids

[X] Death Quest : Psyching up, throwing down.


Sending elizabeth and lily away, because if there's anyone who can help build things back up again, it is elizabeth and we don't want to chance giving lily to riddle nor do we want to degrade her sanity again.

No sure about battle layout, i figured faires are good at ailments and treants at immobilization, placing them in middle means they act as stall for anything that slip through for backrow to do their job, and aid frontlines(?) Unsure about treant's placement.

I am not fond of sending everyone away and leave dace and martha alone to fight ... It feels like giving up before it begun to me.

If you loose the fight, Riddle will get the base. Also remember you'd be playing as Chibi if Dace dies. She's got crazy high intrigue and diplomacy for her age (~4 years old), and it's worth thinking about what she'd need the most if Dace dies (and the people whose abilities are helpful enough to be worth something in the battle)

This is not a fight to half ass. Carefully consider each choice, and make sure their loss can be afforded.

Remember, they're all considered to be on the battlefield if they stay. It's certainly not safe -- some will almost certainly die. Dace seems to have stolen the Devil's own luck so the rolls might go his way, but the others ... not so much
still kinda shocked no one seems to have wiki walked to figure out some of the nasty surprises that could be up Tom's sleeves or ask questions on mechanics
 
If you loose the fight, Riddle will get the base. Also remember you'd be playing as Chibi if Dace dies. She's got crazy high intrigue and diplomacy for her age (~4 years old), and it's worth thinking about what she'd need the most if Dace dies (and the people whose abilities are helpful enough to be worth something in the battle)

This is not a fight to half ass. Carefully consider each choice, and make sure their loss can be afforded.

Remember, they're all considered to be on the battlefield if they stay. It's certainly not safe -- some will almost certainly die. Dace seems to have stolen the Devil's own luck so the rolls might go his way, but the others ... not so much
still kinda shocked no one seems to have wiki walked to figure out some of the nasty surprises that could be up Tom's sleeves or ask questions on mechanics

We also have 2 other allied factions (of questionable capabilities) so it won't be just us.

I made that plan mainly i don't agree with the 2 existing plans.
It is impossible to know which is the correct action, to preserve employee or deploy them? Both has pro and con.

Furthermore, we cannot tell the outcome as it is based on dice, so both are gamble by nature.
What is Dace going to do if we deprived him of his combat force? A suicide charge? Flee and leave the base and end up strengthening Death faction to unimaginable height due to what is there?

This is more than Chibi losing competent people.

You lose some, you win some.
And i am aware people will die and is taking it regardless.

What do you see in depriving Dace of his combat force aside from giving them to Chibi?
I believe Chibi has her own contact and what she needs is time to build her own.
Time that can only exist if Dace cripples death faction, we need to land a devastating blow on them at cost of our own.

We do not need to win the battle, but the war.
I want Riddle to not get out of these unscathed.
Honestly, i wonder if dace has contingency of destroying the fountain/grail if he is losing or scorch the base, so to leave nothing for Riddle to scavange.

Like, Riddle can win, but he will lose much of his forces, he will gain nothing but scorched mountain, he killed Dace, but nature faction lived still.

This can only happen if Dace has forces to attack for him.
 
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That's some nice discussion here ....

*looks around*

Fanart! I got fanart *happy dance, slaps a +30 bonus to roll* And it's not animu !

(btw, anime Dace is that guy :

'Cept with strawberry blond hair.
What? There aren't that many unfeeling Übermensch project escapees that also have high level of planning ability in animu! This totally wasnt elaborated to trick Aifeverse into thinking Dace is Evil ( he totally is, but that's besides the point!)

Which is why Aifeverse and Lifeverse are super skittish around him~)

All of you make excellent points, and I can only say : You're all right :V

of questionable capabilities

Bit of a preview on LifeQuest, Fumbledore rolled a Nat1 on his intrigue action ( again) and lost the ability to use intrigue actions. He's got another diplo action to compensate! Even though a 5 years old little girl can run circles around him...
As for Orderquest... Well, their epic battle against the Overlord could use Yakety sax as a BGM?

Closing the votes at 3 PM GMT.

(Sorry for the delay, but I preferred giving you guys a bit of time to think and explain your reasoning)
 
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Aaaand stop.



End of votes, time to tally up all that~

Hm. Deathquest seems to have won. Fairly sure there's some SV/QQ double account cheatery involved, but I'll allow it this time.

So did the Alea Iacta Est plan. I'll post the Negaverse later this evening. Anyone know how to make the alerts work? Bacause of the formatting, Negaverse interludes don't register to the readers as chapters ( like the Bright Lady interlude).
 
What do you see in depriving Dace of his combat force aside from giving them to Chibi?

This just was a vote for taking the hero units away. Most of them aren't suited for combat (hense the bad bonuses they give). Dace would still have his whole army to defend himself.

Aaaand stop.



End of votes, time to tally up all that~

Hm. Deathquest seems to have won. Fairly sure there's some SV/QQ double account cheatery involved, but I'll allow it this time.

So did the Alea Iacta Est plan. I'll post the Negaverse later this evening. Anyone know how to make the alerts work? Bacause of the formatting, Negaverse interludes don't register to the readers as chapters ( like the Bright Lady interlude).

One trick is often to have the first post of it not in negaverse format

***

In other news, I finally get to to show you a bit of why you're all pretty fucked.


Plague - 5 mana
Combat - Curse/Direct Damage
Damage: 16 + 1.5 dmg/level + Demonology
Plague causes all targets on the Combat Map, friend or foe, to come down with a deadly damaging disease. It has no effect on non-living or Death targets.
Sickness always cripples an army, unless that army is already dead.

Remember how I was saying you should try and look at the wiki and you should think of the spells Tom could throw at you?



Have fun with that :evil:
 
DeathQuest Negaverse: Battle for Yr Wyddfa
DeathQuest Negaverse: Battle for Yr Wyddfa (1)




Alright, ladies, gentlemen, necrophiliacs, We are gathered here because some people decided it was a good idea to launch an assault before the combat tutorial happened, so I'm going to throw you into the fire! Enjoy.

Tom looked ahead of him, his army shambling ahead of him, while Anastasia, his strongest Death knight, was riding ahead.


( I had to create the map and the grid all on my own. The first to diss my stuff will get punished. One way or another. Looking at you, SoulWeave! Of course, as per HoMM , I only put some creatures, but it's your much more numerous army. Trying to keep the cluttering to a minimum here.)

However, once he arrived, he soon noticed several things were amiss. While the grass was a bit more lush than it should be, the truly odd things were that there was a river that wasn't supposed to exist and, on the other bank of said river, there was a forest made of sturdy trees. This was strange, because he had it on good authority that the Nature faction was only truly installed there since last year, this was much too early for such important terraforming.

Still, Nature was present. He could feel eyes on him everywhere, the wind was harsher, carrying undercurrends of fire, the trees were agitated, there were groans and breathing noises and something was moving in that forest, the ground was muddy, causing the undead to walk slower.

Clearly, Dace was prepared, he'd expected nothing less from his fated enemy.

With a mental command, his army stilled as he made his plan, then, with a single nudge, the army...

[] Separated : The skeletons, liches and wights, all of them creatures that could be destroyed instantly by Dace's accursed winds would stay behind, waiting for Dace to have wasted his spells on sturdier creatures and only then would they come, so that they could not be stopped.

[] Continued its advance, the terrain constraints meant sending reinforcements would be complicated, especially if, as the texts suggest, Nature aligned spells were centered about terrain manipulation.

A few minutes later, Tom looked at the river. It was shallow enough to pass, however, when the came down of his mount and dipped a finger in it, he felt a tingle bordering on burning, and drew back his hand. Frowning, he extended his magical senses to try and parse the water's secrets.
Mysticism check : 20. Got 26. Passed.
Learning check: 15 (reduced from 25 from previous Learning actions). Got 22. Passed.

His eyes suddenly opened, slight teal sparks coming from them.

The Grail.

It was here.

Anticipation began to rise within him as his lips curled into a smirk. No wonder he couldn't find it, someone already got to it first. He got up, raised his hand, although it was more for his benefit than real need, and lowered it, commanding that...

The Vampires:
[] (Aggressive): They fly over the trees, heading towards the enemy backline and murder their fragile units.
[] (Polyvalent): They fly over the trees, scouting the field and picking off weak targets
[] (Cautious): They fly around stealthily, retreating at the first sign of danger.

The Zombies:
[] (Aggressive): They rush towards the castle, through the woods.
[] (Polyvalent): They shamble cautiously, taking advantage of the cover from the trees.
[] (Cautious): They stay on place, waiting for the signal to attack.

Anastasia:
[] (Aggressive): She bombards the field with spells.
[] (Polyvalent): She focuses on crowd control.
[] (Cautious): She waits for now, until the troops reached the castle itself.


IF Continue was chosen :

The Skeletons :
[] (Aggressive): They rush towards the castle, through the woods.
[] (Polyvalent): They shamble cautiously, taking advantage of the cover from the trees.
[] (Cautious): They stay on place, waiting for the signal to attack.

The Wraiths:
[] (Aggressive): They fly over the trees, heading towards the enemy backline and murder their fragile units.
[] (Polyvalent): They fly over the trees, scouting the field and picking off weak targets.
[] (Cautious): They fly around stealthily, retreating at the first sign of danger.

The Liches:
[] (Aggressive): They bombard the defenses to try and somke the defenders out.
[] (Polyvalent): They bombard the field with spells.
[] (Cautious): They start trying to wrestle control of the terrain.

As his arm fell, the undead rushed, their speed faster than before, and Anastasia's undead steed neighed, its hooves hitting the ground almost impatiently.

As for Tom himself, he decided to...

[] Lead the troops:
-Highest risk to self.
-Highest chance to Find Dace's heiress (Blessed One)
-Highest chance to find Dace
-Highest chance to find Grail
-Low chance to learn of Aife's whereabouts

[] Lead from the center:
-Middling risk to self.
-Middling chance to Find Dace's heiress (Blessed One)
-Middling chance to find Dace
-Middling chance to find Grail

[] Lead from the rear:
-Low risk to self.
-Low chance to Find Dace's heiress (Blessed One)
-Low chance to find Dace
-Low chance to find Grail

Current troops :

Anastasia: Level 12 Shadow Mage.
Tom Riddle (Horcrux) : Level 16 Lich.
Vampires x 30
Zombies x 300
Skeleton Warriors x 200
Wraiths x 40
Liches x 8


Raven said:
Leading from the front is a no-brainer. Voting for whoever puts it in their plan.
SoulWeave said:
Damn, druid guy be a beast. Either he got the Grail before the game started, or he got it under 3 turns. Also, I would never do that to you Panda, they're.. Really cute pentagons.
LadyPanda said:
The latter. And those are hexagons. Enjoy your -10.
Porky said:
So, I think we should be cautious here, because Tom said he is dangerous.
Edit: Stop needling the QM, Weave for the love of Angry Mainyu!
SoulWeave said:
[X] Plan Apocalypse now.
[X] Separated.
This one, I think, because I don't want to lose all our aerial units like last time where he somehow pulled another spell when he couldn't before. They would be free exp otherwise.

The Vampires:
[X] (Polyvalent)
They can regenerate, and they'll scout out the situation for us.

The Zombies:
[X] (Aggressive)
They're our footsoldiers, but they're slow, so they need to go as fast as possible to do damage.

Anastasia:
[X] (Aggressive)
She'll basically be our cover here, in case they've got too many ranged units, since those damned trees cut our field of vision.

[X] Lead the troops:
Because we can't afford to let them live at this point, they're too dangerous for our goals, so we have to go all in or they'll be able to restart somewhere lese. Aife is a bonus, really.
MegaMinion said:
Curse you Soul, for making your usual insanity sound so reasonable
[X] Plan Apocalypse now.
.
Blondie24 said:
You should keep in mind though, They've got an alliance with the Life faction, so there is a not nonexistant chance they've got somebody with holy spells in here.
MegaMinion said:
Miyosan said:
Considering how Dumbledore's going after our sabotaging his faction, we'd know if they had someone flinging holy spells around.
Blondie24 said:
Would you? Dace has a much better intrigue than you guys. Even with the Nat 1, if sufficiently motivated, he can run circles around you.
MegaMinion said:
Well, whatever, the die is cast and I can't find another plan that makes sense right now.
Miyosan said:
It'll be Okay, we're the master of Death, he's just a (stupidly sexy) nobleman.
[X] Plan Apocalypse now.
MegaMinion said:
He's the one who wiped out our army back home !
SoulWeave said:
You're repeating yourself, Mega
LadyPanda said:
Well, as a freebie, I'll tell you this: Besides his spells, he's fairly harmless, as he is a Heroes 3 type hero.
Porky said:
Not a reason to drop our guard.
SoulWeave said:
Wait. Heroes 3 as in : can only use spells and can't attack directly? I'm torn between being relieved because he's severely nerfed compared to us and alarmed because he's done that much damage while being so nerfed.
LadyPanda said:
MegaMinion said:
By the way, Panda, You've never really told us what being the MoD entailed.
LadyPanda said:
The stars are not yet aligned.
MegaMinion said:
In other words, there'll be a quest down the line that may or may not result in us dying horribly.
Porky said:
We're already dead though.
MegaMinion said:
Anyways, strategy, anoyone got better than Soul?
Raven said:
Nope.
[X] Plan Apocalypse now.
Always up to murder shitty inserts!
Blondie24 said:
You'll have some work to do soon, then.
Raven said:
LadyPanda said:
Well, I did start this quest thinking of the most horrible things I've ever read in HP. I'm sparing you the trashy slash and M-Preg because I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but other than that, if it exists, there's a chance I drop it around..
MegaMinion said:
Well, in the fandom, there's evil, and then there's PKH.
LadyPanda said:
Funny you should speak about that...
MegaMinion said:
Wait, no, Panda, I was joking, please please don't do it, I don't want glowing mushrooms on Pluto or whatever!
Edit: Oh Ahriman, she's rated this funny.
SoulWeave said:
Raven said:
Mind explaining what that was about?
Blondie24 said:
Something that should never have existed in the first place. If you're fragile of heart, don't even google search it. If you're not, be ready for days of hell.



In which, we learn overestimating one's enemy is just as dangerous as underestimating them. Then, fandom happened and Raven had a suspicious feeling more stakes were going to need to be prepared :V

Before you ask, yes, Apocalypse now was chosen.
 
...can I use my +30 as a -30 malus to the deathfaction during the siege?
 
Hmmmm. Normally no, but since you're the first, sure! Who/What do you want to debuff?
 
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Meanwhile in LifeQuest (snippet, just so you know some of what you missed, the more relevant intel isn't there though.):

SoulReave said:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA MY SIDES THEY HURT!
SuperMinion said:
She's a kid! Zebra why?! She' can't be more than ten!

LadyZebra said:
Correction : she's five. Born in March.

SuperMinion said:
Okay, we need to work on our Diplomacy, I'm fine with being a loser at intrigue, but I refuse to be beaten by a five years old who's not even trying!

Kiyotan said:
She humiliated us so that she'd get cake? She's as evil as her Grandfather, confirmed.
Firefox said:
Erm, guys? Why aren't you commenting on the nat 1? It sounds really bad...
Kiyotan said:
Oh that? Nah, pretty normal here, I think I can count our clear successes on one hand.
Though now, we really need to get along Dace so that he takes over our intrigue. If we're going to be led around the nose by some asshole, might as well be the one not trying to commit genocide.
Edit: Zebra? Why did you find this funny? He going to try and genocide?

SuperMinion said:
I just want us to beat a child...

Brunette24 said:
You won't get Dace on your side anytime soon though, he's busy enough as is.
And she's currently got 22 Diplo. Set to gain a lot more quite soon, too.

SuperMinion said:
Shut up, you filthy traitor of a beta.
Corvid said:
Minion, you're repeating yourself.
SoulReave said:

Orky said:
You're lying, right?

Kiyotan said:

LadyZebra said:
By the way, your new Nat1 mandated assistant? It's him.

Much sobbing in a corner was done.
 
On second thought, nah. Just do what you were going to do with it before I opened my mouth.
Not confident enough to place a malus on anyone. :oops:
 
Meanwhile in LifeQuest

I'm suprised you didn't show the reaction to Dace being Dumbles' Son, or did Life Quest know that already?

Alright, ladies, gentlemen, necrophiliacs, We are gathered here because some people decided it was a good idea to launch an assault before the combat tutorial happened, so I'm going to throw you into the fire! Enjoy.

Not trying to tempt Murphy but this seems like a good thing for us.

That night was horrible. She spoke more with Dumbledore, and she knew who he reminded her of when in a bad mood. Her father. Her insanely manipulative, hyper competent father. It may not be Harry Potter canon, but Harry Potter fanfiction wasn't out of question. The question was, would she risk it?

PS. I like the foreshadowing in how Dumbles reminds Aife of Dace when he is pissed in the last interlude.
 
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I'm suprised you didn't show the reaction to Dace being Dumbles' Son, or did Life Quest know that already?



Not trying to tempt Murphy but this seems like a good thing for us.



PS. I like the foreshadowing in how Dumbles reminds Aife of Dace when he is pissed in the last interlude.

Most of the quests have more info than you guys do. Dace was supposed to be a prologue character that helps you learn the ropes and then you get to use Chibi when he dies.

Dace disagrees with that sentiment and has managed to cheat the Reaper on every occasion so far. Remember that meeting with Riddle before the Dragons? You barely passed a check to not get instantly killed.

Stuff like the Dumbledore Reveal would have needed to be uncovered by Chibi had Dace died. Instead she's getting along fine and just grinding SL's for everyone -- she's already got one of them up to SL 10 last time I checked.
 
If I have it my way, face will be the new MC.
In fact whose in favor of making a
[Church of Dace] ?
 
I'm suprised you didn't show the reaction to Dace being Dumbles' Son, or did Life Quest know that already?

Well, in my 'to show in negaverse list' (yes, I even have one of those) that would have been the prize had you taken 'the bright lord'. Dumbledore reminiscing about how he failed everyone in his life, and casually name dropping Dace there.
Not trying to tempt Murphy but this seems like a good thing for us.

Simply means that instead of relying on strategy, even more of that fight will be decided by the dice, which, considering how utterly bipolar they are, isn't necessarily a good thing.

Stuff like the Dumbledore Reveal would have needed to be uncovered by Chibi had Dace died.

Spoilers: She wouldn't have taken it well at all.

If I have it my way, face will be the new MC.

Dace is the MC right now though. As for how long he can go... Welp. Throwing you guys a bone here : If he survives that battle and stays out of the fights from now on, he's pretty much guaranteed to survive until turn 10, the dice said.
 
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