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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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We could offer neaby Astartes an outpost in the Trust. I'd imagine that most of them would be worried about the long term survival of their chapter.

So an offer to station a chapter sized force in the Trust might be well recieved.
 
Well, the Grey Knights don't seem to have expanded much, unless the Inquisition's been using them for their ops. Speaking of which, what's their funding exactly?
 
I have an idea for the next meeting space marine astropaths , they have the same psykic frequency due to the gene seed and space marines have greater willpower and resistance to warpy shit
and they have exp doing this , after all there is a limit for what courier ships can do that ends at barely holding a sup sector together let alone the hundreds of planets the space marine realms rule so they are all most likely using there
psykes as astropath and since they have the same psykic frequency they are at least as good as imperiem era ones

Do NOT bring this up at the next meeting as it would be grossly over stepping instead after the meeting go meet the chapter master and ask him , his old chapter probably did this before to run ultramar after the empror died
 
Nurgle said:
[] Plan get it out of the way
In more recent news, the first Alpha Plus psyker to ever be found in Trust history turned into a warp rift in the city of Arbor. The city was lost. Soon afterwards, a Lord of Change possessed another Alpha Plus psyker, but we were able to kill it this time. We believe that this many powerful psykers in such a short order to be only bad luck at this time.

Avernus is slowly evolving Avernites to be better fighters, resist chaos , more powerful and stable psykers, smarter, and better looking.

Ok I took what was put up and hope to get everything done so we can get the vote for Rotbart speech done quick. Anyone got ideas to add?
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Are the psykers before or after the High council meeting? We couldn't mention them if they were after.

Also I saw some discussion on the subject but not why exactly we concluded that we had to tell the High Council about our shift in population condition, or where we conclusively proved that it was Avernus actively interfering.
Now I'm having trouble finding it again and this phrasing sounds like something that would set off an 'oh emperor they're all secretly mutants' reaction. So maybe don't mention it, or use more tact.
Why do you want to bring it up?

Moreover I think it might still be the range that can be explained by shifting demographic trends as less viable phenotypes fail to survive to reproductive age against the wildlife or fall to Chaos.
 
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thatguy said:
Are the psykers before or after the High council meeting? We couldn't mention them if they were after.

Also I saw some discussion on the subject but not why exactly we concluded that we had to tell the High Council about our shift in population condition, or where we conclusively proved that it was Avernus actively interfering.
Now I'm having trouble finding it again and this phrasing sounds like something that would set off an 'oh emperor they're all secretly mutants' reaction. So maybe don't mention it, or use more tact.
Why do you want to bring it up?

Moreover I think it might still be the range that can be explained by shifting demographic trends as less viable phenotypes fail to survive to reproductive age against the wildlife or fall to Chaos.
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The alphas come after the meeting but the two alpha plus happen before the meeting. As well as the alpha twins. We can only mention things that have happen up to the point.

Which reminds me we got to mention what Ridicully divined. I will put that in later. The good thing is we can also put the large ork war bands in the meeting which should help us on conctacting other human polities.

If we do not tell them that Avernus is changing Avernites the inquisition will. Which would not play out as well as telling them. To show we have nothing to hide. Also I was fudging on avernites being better looking. But physically, mentally, psykers, and intellectually avernites are becoming smarter, as well as light sleepers.

Edit other things is that thier liver is better at filtering poisons, more stable psykers, chaos resistance, and more mentally stable and able to handle hardship.
 
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@Nurgle some suggestions.

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The city was lost
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Maybe add something like Avernite intervention closed the rift and likely prevented a minor incursion.

Nurgle said:
Avernus
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Actually the list of changes is fairly simple for now, significant increases in reflexes, immuneal resistance and toxin resistance, currently minor improvements in all other categories (for now assume like strength and endurance rather than looks...then again it's makers did create the Eldar.) this is in addition to the long documented increase in psyker rates.

Chaos resistance is so vague that I really wouldn't put it in.

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Lots of these seem redundant or could be trimmed to "deploying super heavies and expanding juv nat distribution."

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The Daemon that has been kidnapping
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(Long before the Alpha +)

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Begun trading with Nynye for Alkehestral potions and poisons
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We intend to trade quartok tech to gain access to both their advanced secrets and the ability to produce their poisons and potions without needing to rely upon the Nyne.
 
Nurgle said:
If we do not tell them that Avernus is changing Avernites the inquisition will. Which would not play out as well as telling them. To show we have nothing to hide. Also I was fudging on avernites being better looking. But physically, mentally, psykers, and intellectually avernites are becoming smarter, as well as light sleepers.

Edit other things is that thier liver is better at filtering poisons, more stable psykers, chaos resistance, and more mentally stable and able to handle hardship.
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Are we IC convinced that it is Avernus the entity, and not the experience of living on the planet Avernus, that is doing this?
Because it is an important distinction in both politics and phrasing that needs to be considered before saying anything about it.
 
thatguy said:
Are we IC convinced that it is Avernus the entity, and not the experience of living on the planet Avernus, that is doing this?
Because it is an important distinction in both politics and phrasing that needs to be considered before saying anything about it.
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We're apparently the record holder for fastest adaptation without outside aid (and the outside aid ones generally end badly) and have an impossibly wide range of things being improved on (usually the adaptations specialise a human, with detriments in other areas.)

Combine this with the fact that all our resident experts (Sphinx, Areatha, Sirens, Trolls, Nyne ect.) say this is exactly the kind of thing the Planet Mind does on a regular basis with all the creatures of Avernus and the fact that we can see that other creatures have adapted to our presence (the largest being the Thunderhead) I think it's fairly safe to say we're convinced.

Edit: dammit I really am tired.

Yes it is generally accepted by this point that Avernus has an overriding consciousness. Everything we can communicate with on Avernus says its, there, it's semi worshipped by a couple of them, Avernus almost certainly can't function as a proper eco system without some degree of over site and we even have a way of contacting the Planet Mind.
 
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thatguy said:
Are we IC convinced that it is Avernus the entity, and not the experience of living on the planet Avernus, that is doing this?
Because it is an important distinction in both politics and phrasing that needs to be considered before saying anything about it.
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Well everyone knows that there is a planetary mind since we have literally told them everything in the past. So avernites slowly being changed can really on be attributed to living on Avernus which the hive mind controls. Like how we know the wildlife responds when the planet is threaten or when Garkill died for thinking about destroying the planet.
 
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usually the adaptations specialise a human, with detriments in other areas.
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The fact that Avernites need like twice the caloric intake of a regular human their size is large detriment in many situations, if not particularly relevant to us due to DAoT agricultural/food processing tech and edible Avernus wildlife.
 
DeusFerreus said:
The fact that Avernites need like twice the caloric intake of a regular human their size is large detriment in many situations, if not particularly relevant to us due to DAoT agricultural/food processing tech and edible Avernus wildlife.
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Pretty sure that's due to their "high intensity life styles"/level of physical fitness, rather than something engineered into us by the planet as it's been around since way before Avernus seems to have really gotten working on us.
 
[] Plan get it out of the way
General information
The Calming Butcher Bird is good at preventing riots.
Juve-Nat and Hyper Juve-Nat production facilities are operational.
Saint Lin has begun studies into matters of divinity.
Saint Lin is Cleansing worlds with Telepathica assistance.
In more recent news, the first Alpha Plus psyker to ever be found in Trust history turned into a warp rift in the city of Arbor. The city was lost. Soon afterwards, a Lord of Change possessed another Alpha Plus psyker, but we were able to kill it this time. We believe that this many powerful psykers in such a short order to be only bad luck at this time.
Avernites are slowly changing to be better fighters , more powerful and stable psykers, higher metabolism, and better immunity to poison.
Military
All Hell guard soldiers possess bionics
PDF expanded
New Life Guard Regiments
All Hellguard soldiers in Power Armor
Black Irons are expanding, now with a Helltrooper branch


Telepathica
Orders of Healing, Warding, and Psy-Hunting established.
Song Weaver Choirs established
Ork Grand Countering researched
Ridicully reports so far on Turoq and the large ork waaghs in the galaxy.

Arbites
Master Psyker Hunters are operational
The Daemon that has been kidnapping the rogue psykers is now dead.

Peoples of Avernus
Begun trading with Nynye for Alkehestral potions and poisons
Acquired the Runes of Warding, Enchantment, Focus, Power, and Protection from trade with the Sirens.

ok made some changes cut out redundant stuff and change the language to Avernites are slowly changing to be even better soldiers. Any more suggestions.
 
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Nurgle said:
If we do not tell them that Avernus is changing Avernites the inquisition will. Which would not play out as well as telling them. To show we have nothing to hide. Also I was fudging on avernites being better looking. But physically, mentally, psykers, and intellectually avernites are becoming smarter, as well as light sleepers.
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If this was an issue I imagine that Klovis would have brought this up considering that the Avernites are the best elites and from a pragmatic standpoint brining it up unless they had undeniable proof would cause issues. Unless you are absolutely sure they are going to bring this up it's just fear mongering on your part by making a mountain out of a mole hole with assumptions.

Doomed Wombat said:
We're apparently the record holder for fastest adaptation without outside aid (and the outside aid ones generally end badly) and have an impossibly wide range of things being improved on (usually the adaptations specialise a human, with detriments in other areas.)

Combine this with the fact that all our resident experts (Sphinx, Areatha, Sirens, Trolls, Nyne ect.) say this is exactly the kind of thing the Planet Mind does on a regular basis with all the creatures of Avernus and the fact that we can see that other creatures have adapted to our presence (the largest being the Thunderhead) I think it's fairly safe to say we're convinced.
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Again, strong suspicion isn't the same as facts and one of the most important facts to consider is that 40K humans have absurd adaptation which includes creating sub human branches which would normally take hundreds of thousands of years in just a few centuries to a few thousand years. Throw in we live on a heavily warp touched world and it complicates things. So while we have strong reason to believe the planet mind may be messing with human genetics we don't really have any strong and concrete proof due to it being subtle with it.
 
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Red Bovine said:
If this was an issue I imagine that Klovis would have brought this up considering that the Avernites are the best elites and from a pragmatic standpoint brining it up unless they had undeniable proof would cause issues. Unless you are absolutely sure they are going to bring this up it's just fear mongering on your part by making a mountain out of a mole hole with assumptions.



Again, strong suspicion isn't the same as facts and one of the most important facts to consider is that 40K humans have absurd adaptation which includes creating sub human branches which would normally take hundreds of thousands of years in just a few centuries to a few thousand years. Throw in we live on a heavily warp touched world and it complicates things. So while we have strong reason to believe the planet mind may be messing with human genetics we don't really have any strong and concrete proof due to it being subtle with it.
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its not fear mongering Durin said the inquisition will tell what is happening if we don't.

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its not fear mongering Durin said the inquisition will tell what is happening if we don't.[/QUOTE]

Alright, dropping that complaint in light of that info.

Dynamesmouse said:
@Nurgle

You can drop the economy section.

And the better looking and smarter parts. We're seen as arrogant enough as it is.
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I agree, better as not to come across as the human equivelent of elves with our arrogance. We've already caused offense with the council with that kind of attitude in the past before.
 
The irony of denizens of Helheim being seen as arrogant elves when there's a fairly normal planet with the named Alfheim in the subsector is hilarious.
 
Sorry for the vagueness of this question @Durin but

1. How many runes is the full Quartok tech base worth?

@thread Thoughts on doing giving the sirens Quartok tech in exchange for (presumably) a fair amount of runes. I just figured if were doing it with the Nynye we might as well do it with the sirens.
 
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