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Only Sun, though it counts all Spells.
(That would be 13 Scepter, +39 Spells, +19 Abilities = 71; -7,100 Total End Damage at the moment)
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Libra's Lament, a Magical Girl Quest [Complete]
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(That would be 13 Scepter, +39 Spells, +19 Abilities = 71; -7,100 Total End Damage at the moment)
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So, someone can tell whos a latent MG?
So, if we ever want to bait them, we should be alone. Definitely should ask about their threat level with Bianca and/or Gaia though.
The twins trusted her not to lie about something like that.
In hindsight it's easy to see how Bianca would not tell two ten year old a secret which, if exposed, would see her ran out of the UES. And likely be the scandal of the century.
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Fair enough.
Item Removed.
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- Ekaterinburg, Russia
New Shop Items: Primordial Sun
450 EXP to get.
Objectively, replacement ought to work in favor of our Magic Modifier value, but otherwise I cannot say what it'd really do.
1020+1020+1000=3040 EXP to get.
New Shop Items: Primordial Moon
Wouldn't be too surprised if it's some kind of Spell Reflection, but not betting on anything.
Attention Please! Veil of the Solar Goddess is now incredibly weakened in terms of damage reduction compared to how it was before. Especially when we're not alone, so we have to rely on the Moon for defense.
Now, for Scaling (Sunlight Scepter 13-20, Moonlight Scepter 5-20, Veil of the Lunar Goddess 13-20):
Here's the new scaling. Right. I'm picking up Sun's scepter and Moon's Veil to 15 - this will let them at least approach what we had before the latest updates. And Mistress of the Tide - because with Sun's defenses nerfed, she needs Moon's help to survive.
Please note - I chose against purchasing Overwhelm for now. Because improving Veil by 3 levels already grants us an x4 health (survivability) modifier, but ALSO improves our No-Sell AND Shining Protector effectiveness. For the record, Veil of the Lunar Goddess 16, 17 and 18 are still things a bit more cost-effective than Overwhelm for now (until we PROBABLY get Crush on Scepter 10). But that's about it. They cost 480 EXP total to Overwhelm's 500, and are a bit more guaranteed to work.
EDIT: Additional Changelog required!
Currently, Radiant Shine Unbroken costs 750 EXP (previous cost - 650 EXP)
Currently, Mistress of the Tide costs 900 EXP (previous cost - 700 EXP)
Currently, Neverending Sunlight and Neverending Moonlight both cost 450 EXP apiece (previous cost - 300 EXP - or was it 350?).
[X] Help Brave get used to her new surroundings and introduce her to your friends
[X] Talk to someone about what you saw
-[X] Ana
Still having the same plans for talking. And Ana - if she doesn't need placating, she is still our adopted sister, our family who deserves to know.
[X] EXP Plan Connection and Protection (1940/1980 EXP)
-[X] World Eater - Advanced Connection (500 EXP)(1480 remaining)
-[X] Mistress of the Tide (900 EXP) (580 remaining)
-[X] Sunlight Scepter 15 (270 EXP)(310 remaining)
-[X] Veil of the Lunar Goddess 15 (270 EXP)(40 remaining)
What does this give to us?
1) Getting closer with Ana. As in, we can see and hear what she sees and hears, and vice versa.
2) A Super Ability to replace/improve Shining Protector - something we sorely need now that Sun's defenses were nerfed.
3) A return to a decent damage for Sun, and Magic Modifier for defense. Also an additional attack for Sun.
4) Improving on our survivability with Moon. Most cost-effective option of all we have, better than Solar Seal by far.
Probably VERY MUCH a lesser version of Veil of the Lunar Goddess. Good, but not very necessary. Probably worth it (will somewhat lower reduction from Veil of the Solar Goddess).
450 EXP to get.
One is a healing spell, other is a self-centered AOE, both work together as replacement for Advanced Catalyst which was a Magic Modifier doubler...
Objectively, replacement ought to work in favor of our Magic Modifier value, but otherwise I cannot say what it'd really do.
1020+1020+1000=3040 EXP to get.
New Shop Items: Primordial Moon
Given how we're suddenly lacking much of our health (28051 vs 98781) reducing incoming damage to a quarter of its value will be highly beneficial to us. Do want. But not very cost effective now.
Probably the easier boost we could acquire, compared to the Event Horizon. That's still 600+600+270+750=2220 EXP, though. Compared to 3040 EXP, that is.
Wouldn't be too surprised if it's some kind of Spell Reflection, but not betting on anything.
Attention Please! Veil of the Solar Goddess is now incredibly weakened in terms of damage reduction compared to how it was before. Especially when we're not alone, so we have to rely on the Moon for defense.
Now, for Scaling (Sunlight Scepter 13-20, Moonlight Scepter 5-20, Veil of the Lunar Goddess 13-20):
As I've said before, Laser is not very good for us. EDIT: Ninja'd.Article: Sunlight Scepter 13-20:
Damage 522---730---1022---1430---2002---2802---3922---5490
Laser 6786---10220---15330---22880---34034---50436---74518---109800
Magic Modifier 7168---11468---18348---29356---46969---75150---120240---192384
It's like this now. We need Veil at 16 now to be better than we were just a moment before.Article: Veil of the Lunar Goddess 13-20:
Health 28'051---44'881---71'809---114'894---183'830---294'128---470'604---752'966
No-Sell 7012---11'220---17'452---28'723---45'957---73'532---117651---188'241Yet another victim, now at 1000/level. Double Resilience to see.
Resilience 650---700-750---800-850-900-950-1000
We can probably expect to get Crush on level 10, and it would give us really good synergy with Overwhelm. But I'll let others experiment, because as is, Veil of the Lunar Goddess up to level 16-17 is more cost-effective, Level 18 is barely less than cost-effective, and until Crush+Overwhelm (350+500 EXP at best) purchasing Veil of the Lunar Goddess to 20 or 21 is still better.Article: Moonlight Scepter 5-20:
Damage 64---102-163-260-416-665---1064-1702-2723-4356-6969---11150-17840-28544-45670-73072
Magic Modifier 215---265-315-365-415-465---515-565-615-665-715---765-815-865-915-965
Please note - I chose against purchasing Overwhelm for now. Because improving Veil by 3 levels already grants us an x4 health (survivability) modifier, but ALSO improves our No-Sell AND Shining Protector effectiveness. For the record, Veil of the Lunar Goddess 16, 17 and 18 are still things a bit more cost-effective than Overwhelm for now (until we PROBABLY get Crush on Scepter 10). But that's about it. They cost 480 EXP total to Overwhelm's 500, and are a bit more guaranteed to work.
EDIT: Additional Changelog required!
Currently, Radiant Shine Unbroken costs 750 EXP (previous cost - 650 EXP)
Currently, Mistress of the Tide costs 900 EXP (previous cost - 700 EXP)
Currently, Neverending Sunlight and Neverending Moonlight both cost 450 EXP apiece (previous cost - 300 EXP - or was it 350?).
[X] Help Brave get used to her new surroundings and introduce her to your friends
[X] Talk to someone about what you saw
-[X] Ana
Still having the same plans for talking. And Ana - if she doesn't need placating, she is still our adopted sister, our family who deserves to know.
[X] EXP Plan Connection and Protection (1940/1980 EXP)
-[X] World Eater - Advanced Connection (500 EXP)(1480 remaining)
-[X] Mistress of the Tide (900 EXP) (580 remaining)
-[X] Sunlight Scepter 15 (270 EXP)(310 remaining)
-[X] Veil of the Lunar Goddess 15 (270 EXP)(40 remaining)
What does this give to us?
1) Getting closer with Ana. As in, we can see and hear what she sees and hears, and vice versa.
2) A Super Ability to replace/improve Shining Protector - something we sorely need now that Sun's defenses were nerfed.
3) A return to a decent damage for Sun, and Magic Modifier for defense. Also an additional attack for Sun.
4) Improving on our survivability with Moon. Most cost-effective option of all we have, better than Solar Seal by far.
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I'll need to look more at EXP spending later.
Depending on what you meant, this should either be "year" or "year's".
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Fixed, thank you.
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And there Brave Heart's world tilted.
She may never have believed that if it didn't come from a soldier.
We know Mirror is holding a grudge and no idea how Igni is going to react.
Going on a mission seems to have done her some good.
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I finally remembered another thing I wanted to change; was edited into the changelog now.
It was always supposed to be a threshold that keeps small fry out, not something that makes Eva immune to near everything at higher levels.
Good thing I realised that on time.
Your damage no-sell now grows linearly at 1,000 per Level.
It was always supposed to be a threshold that keeps small fry out, not something that makes Eva immune to near everything at higher levels.
Good thing I realised that on time.
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Which still does not work against Unstoppables, or Spells. Or damage redirect via Shining Protector.
Veil is still more immediately useful for now.
EDIT: For reasons kept in PMs unless permitted, Pris learning to DOOOOOODGE has been bumped heavily in my priorities.
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Dodge has always been pretty high in my priorities.
I didn't say it makes Overwhelm the better choice right away (haven't done a detailed analysis myself yet). Was just saying that it's immediate value with that change is higher than it's immediate value without the change.
Opportunity Cost is entirely separate from that, and I'll need to do a detailed analysis before that.
[X] Help Brave get used to her new surroundings and introduce her to your friends
[X] Call Bianca right now; you need to know if what you dreamt is true.
[X] EXP Plan Connection and Protection (1940/1980 EXP)
[X] Call Bianca right now; you need to know if what you dreamt is true.
[X] EXP Plan Connection and Protection (1940/1980 EXP)
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- Ekaterinburg, Russia
Before the change (25% of HP) Overwhelm was something to take after Veil 18 if it helps. It effectively reduced damage by 4, and 3 levels of Veil (16-18, 480 EXP) are still an x4 health or so.
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Talking with Bianca first should be a the action before we tell others and then tend to Brave Heart, talking with the others about it can wait. Mostly because Bianca doesnt want to tell it anyone and then we can inform her about Ana and the connection. Then telling Ana and working closer with her would be better in my opinion.
[X] Call Bianca right now; you need to know if what you dreamt is true.
[X] Help Brave get used to her new surroundings and introduce her to your friends
[X] EXP Plan Connection and Protection
We really need to push our defense again, now that both of our girls lost much of it.
[X] Call Bianca right now; you need to know if what you dreamt is true.
[X] Help Brave get used to her new surroundings and introduce her to your friends
[X] EXP Plan Connection and Protection
We really need to push our defense again, now that both of our girls lost much of it.
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[X] Help Brave get used to her new surroundings and introduce her to your friends
[X] Talk to someone about what you saw
-[X] Ana
[X] EXP-Plan
-[X] Save it
Let's calm down some with Ana before we talk to Big Sis.
Also introducing Brave Heart to the Yggdrasil girls has potential to be explosive if handled carelessly.
[X] Talk to someone about what you saw
-[X] Ana
[X] EXP-Plan
-[X] Save it
Let's calm down some with Ana before we talk to Big Sis.
Also introducing Brave Heart to the Yggdrasil girls has potential to be explosive if handled carelessly.
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Ana is already keeping the secret that Bianca let her go when she became a Magical Girl.
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- over there
[X] Call Bianca right now; you need to know if what you dreamt is true.
[X] Help Brave get used to her new surroundings and introduce her to your friends
[X] Help Brave get used to her new surroundings and introduce her to your friends
- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
Have you checked my post with Eva's Scepter damage?
700-1200 at level 10 (350 exp), 7000-7700 at level 15 (950 exp), 72-73k at level 20 (1800 exp).
If it's basic attack damage reduction, we're better off purchasing Overwhelm and that's it.
Opportunity cost gives us 750k health if we raise Veil to 20 (850 exp after current plan wins).
It applies to Spells, Unstoppables, Shining Protector. And costs half as much as raising Scepter to get significant damage (20th level).
Moon's scepter is good. But not essential.
Nothing is strictly essential.
The issue with Overwhelm is that it only adds 75% of the enemy's Base Damage, not their Total Damage. So their MM and abilities like Full Auto ignore it.
The other benefit is that raising the Scepter increases Moon's attacks per turn, which improves her ability to Intercept attacks aimed at people standing right next to her.
I definitely think that Sun's Scepter and Moon's Veil need to stay higher than Moon's Scepter.
My point is more that while many things have been nerfed by these changes, Moon's Scepter is the main thing that's been buffed.
Discipline also makes its damage scale a bit better than it looks.
It is unlikely to be a means of serious offense except against frail people who are really good at dodging/negating (intercepting them prevents them from doing that). What it does do is make it so that Moon takes less damage when blocking an attack aimed at Sun.
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