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Viva la Revolución: An Experimental Quest in Revolutionary Mexico

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[X] The Third Empire of Mexico. His Imperial Highness returns! Viva Agustin! Viva la Emperor!
[X] la Centro - Heartland of Mexico's agriculture, the haciendas rule the roost and the peasanos do all the work for the privilege of living in a room. To feed or not to feed, that is the question, however this region is hard to swap, as the enfiefed ideals of colonial Mexico are still strong here. Current battleground of the Civil War.
[X] Third Republic of the Yucatan -Guatemala has attack the Mexicans, perhaps we shall seek our pound of flesh?
[X] The International NO - The International has given up on their fellows!
 
Harpsichord said:
[X] The Magnonistas. True freedom occurs solely in an anarchist state, the revolution must be brought further in Mexico!
[X] la Centro - Heartland of Mexico's agriculture, the haciendas rule the roost and the peasanos do all the work for the privilege of living in a room. To feed or not to feed, that is the question, however this region is hard to swap, as the enfiefed ideals of colonial Mexico are still strong here. Current battleground of the Civil War.
[X] No One - Mexican Wars for Mexicans!
[X] The International YES - The International will never give up on their fellows!
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The Zapatistas and the Magnonistas are pushing for an alliance, Harp. Can you please change from Magnon to Zapata and from No One to Mexican Coalition, for the sake of both groups?
 
[X] The Free Republic of Lower California. Why not? There's money to be made.
[X] la Centro - Heartland of Mexico's agriculture, the haciendas rule the roost and the peasanos do all the work for the privilege of living in a room. To feed or not to feed, that is the question, however this region is hard to swap, as the enfiefed ideals of colonial Mexico are still strong here.
[X] No One - Mexican Wars for Mexicans!
 
[X] The Third Empire of Mexico. His Imperial Highness returns! Viva Agustin! Viva la Emperor!
[X] la Centro
[X] No one
[X] The International NEIN
 
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Adhoc vote count started by ThatGuyWithIdeas on Mar 16, 2018 at 1:01 PM, finished with 607 posts and 33 votes.
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I'm curious about one thing... considering that the Zapatistas and the Magnonistas are uniting as one, how are the support votes going to be decided this turn for them? Should they be still separate or should they be cumulated, in order to represent their union?
 
[X] The Magnonistas. True freedom occurs solely in an anarchist state, the revolution must be brought further in Mexico!
[x] el Norte - The deserts and mountains of the north hide hardy farmers, squalid forts, and banditos. From la Baja to Chihuahua and Sonora, these lands are the most difficult to take and difficult to lose. Land is often concentrated in the hands of titled aristocrats and their haciendas. Home of the Magnonistas.
[] The Vatican has called the faithful around the world to defend the Church and the pious in Mexico. A surprising amount of Irish, Polish, Italian, Spanish, Brazilian, and Filipinos answered the call. They are lead byJozef Pilsudski as Knight Commander and ordained by the Pope Himself
Funnily enough, I was actually planning on making something similar to this for a write in. But, sadly, I don't think writes ins are a thing this vote, right?
[X] The International YES - The International will never give up on their fellows!
 
Habstab said:
Funnily enough, I was actually planning on making something similar to this for a write in. But, sadly, I don't think writes ins are a thing this vote, right?
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Since you seem to be voting for Magnonistas, you may want to consider the following vote for possible intervention:
[] A Mexican Coalition - It is time that fellow Mexicans stop squabbling for power while imperialists seek to occupy us! Magonistas y Zapatistas unite!
In essence, this is basically the Magnonistas and the Zapatistas uniting as one faction, making both of them stronger via combining their forces.
And before you ask, even though this is a write-in, it was allowed by the author.
 
ThatGuyWithIdeas said:
I'm curious about one thing... considering that the Zapatistas and the Magnonistas are uniting as one, how are the support votes going to be decided this turn for them? Should they be still separate or should they be cumulated, in order to represent their union?
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They'll be accumulated if the coalition wins. However the difference between the two are an important distinction.
 
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November 1913
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    • November 1913
    "Epílogo"

    Pink: The Socialist Republic of Mexico
    Green: Third Republic of the Yucatan
    Yellow: The Occidental Republic of Mexico
    Blue: United States of America
    Red: Free Republic of Lower California
    Purple: Republic of the Rio Grande
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    The Mexican Civil War was an incredibly drawn out event that managed spark off the Great War in Europe. Thanks to the careless actions of the German Kaiser, he was drawn into an unexpected war with France, Britain, and the United States. This was further hindered when France called upon their Entente allies in Tsarist Russia, expanding the war into a third front (beyond the Franco-German border and the High Seas). The duplicitous Hapsburgs and Romanians refused to assist the Germans in their war, which caused immense grief within both the political sector and public mentality at this obvious betrayal.

    The Great War lasted just over a year, with peace being signed in February of 1913. The treaty, signed in Maredsous Abbey in neutral Belgium and overseen by King Albert, was one that saw the end of the German Empire, both literally and figuratively. The Kaiser stepped down, with a German Republic being created in his stead and Germany's colonies being distributed to the victors. America's primary rewards were Germany's Asiatic holdings. The war, one fought by mobile armies across France, Germany, and Russia saw the entrenchment of the Entente empires and the status quo. A generation of young men found themselves veterans of this broad but quick war, which would have an impact on their perception into the future.

    In Mexico, the impact of the Great War was surprisingly vast. American focus on the German-backed Imperial regime ensured that Mexico's democratic neighbours to the north had a continual presence beyond the filibusters in California Sur. This also allowed the Zapatista regime, warring on two fronts, to focus their efforts. Their focus would be Guatemala, which was rapidly defeated due in no small part to the efforts of the Yucatan Republic.

    As 1913 rolled through, the Imperial Government finally collapsed, and the remaining members of the former Profiriato Regime fled or were executed. However, the Zapatista was internationally reviled and the American populace tired of war even after their victories. Further, the stagnation of the fronts and continually deepening entrenchments, so vastly unlike warfare in Europe, was viewed with derision by the public and military structure as a whole. Alas, the American military could not break through the Mexican trench lines, and had no ability to punch through no mans land. Further the dovish President Wilson increasing saw the war as an unnecessary waste.

    By November, even as the American Navy gathered in New Orleans to launch an amphibious assault on the rear positions of the Zapatistas, the President presented congress with the option for peace. Facing an angry populace and midterm elections, congress folded and peace was offered to President Zapatista. On November 11th, 1913, peace was signed between the United States and Zapatistan Mexico. The front line became the new border, as a trio of buffer states were formally established between the ideologically undesirable Social Republic and the American homeland. The Free State of Lower California continued to exist under President Funstun, while the Occidental Republic of Mexico was established under President Adolfo de la Huerta and the Republic of the Rio Grande was formed under President Antonio Villarreal.

    This left Mexico an incredibly divided nation, so unlike what it was only three years prior. Once a single state, it was now nearly a half dozen. A Mayan ethnostate, a pariah socialist state, and a trio of satellites of the Americans that had more akin to Central American pseudo-governments than to independent regimes. This was the fate of Mexico. This is the end of this quest.


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    Sorry about forgetting about this quest. I have no doubt that the delay would have taken the wind out of the sails of this quest, so I deemed it necessary to just go straight to the epilogue. Furthermore, the lack of reasonable interveners due to you guys accidentally creating WWI 3 years early would've slowed the quest to a slog.
     
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    • Teen Spirit said:
    *The Awkward Moment when your actions during a quest led to a world war and Mexican balkanization*

    Where we the bad guys?
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    Chimeraguard said:
    IIRC, several posters were specifically stating their hope was to drown Mexico in blood.

    So yeah, that's fairly accurate.
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    Pretty much lol. It was a fun quest to QM nonetheless, even if I thoroughly dropped the ball.

    Also the Great War was radically different from OTL, so it's really interesting how the post-war dynamic has changed between TTL and OTL.
     
    Ouch, Guatemala. Kind of surprising that Yucatan didn't get a strip of it given their support and the Mayans in Guatemala, though.
     
    Well that was fun. While I would have liked for this to keep going I understand your reasoning and it makes good sense. So with this quest done what will you be doing next? (Assuming you have something in the works.)
     
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