Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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Point taken, but its still more cringe inducing when its your writing...
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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Dis internal battles
Lonely Citadel first phase
Dis Siege Camp
Artillery bombardment of the Dis Siege camp was only about 60% as effective as we were expecting. Killing only ~13.5% when we were expecting ~22.2% for two days bombardment.
Lonely Citadel second phase
Ritual Disruption
Really disappointed we didn't get to have the thermonuclear kaiju tiger. This was pretty much the most anticlimatic time for Marcelee to have interfered. She just swooped in and stole the glorious kill shot after we had done all the work and spent all the lives. It seems like the only reason she showed up was to make it so that Xavier and Mittens wouldn't get a really cool trait out of this.
The black colored war gear and being a planetary governor in the first place are really the main advantages there. Planetary governor is a gimme because we're playing an empire quest. You have to be in charge of something for it to be an empire quest.
So the biggest thing is the super special equipment. But that's not particularly significant by itself considering we hardly ever use it ourselves.
@Durin
2. What sort of ratio on purchases made with the current glut can we expect from the sirens?
192:1 kill ratio, that's what I'm talking about!
152:1
350:1, damn!
209:1
Lonely Citadel first phase
Only 15:1, kind of sad compared to the other one.
12:1, which is pretty awful I think for how heavy this force was. Barely killing more than the ratio they were outnumbered by.
Dis Siege Camp
Artillery bombardment of the Dis Siege camp was only about 60% as effective as we were expecting. Killing only ~13.5% when we were expecting ~22.2% for two days bombardment.
Only killed 108 million with this.
Only a 10:1 ratio, and that despite the benefits of the berserk gas roll modifier and having lowered their numbers before charging while using the same force composition as used at Lonely Citadel and against about the same force as they did before the Dis bombardment killed 270 million.
12:1
Lonely Citadel second phase
197 million, significantly better
22:1 pretty good compared to other field battles.
10:1, then swung wildly back down
Ritual Disruption
I think this alone might have been more than all the other kills this turn.
Really disappointed we didn't get to have the thermonuclear kaiju tiger. This was pretty much the most anticlimatic time for Marcelee to have interfered. She just swooped in and stole the glorious kill shot after we had done all the work and spent all the lives. It seems like the only reason she showed up was to make it so that Xavier and Mittens wouldn't get a really cool trait out of this.
I agree with you completely.
Eh being the governor of the most deadly deathworld in the galaxy is not really a positive except for being a planetary governor at all. His daughter is pretty much unimpressive by the standards of other hero units. We'd be better off making one of the other heroes heir before we die really. His wife died pretty much immediately on the timescale of this quest, and it caused him to never remarry, so that's more tragic than anything special. Though really she was highly promiscuous, so I would expect she cheated, just was good enough at hiding it that it didn't come out before she died. Being close friends with a Living Saint isn't particularly special for a planetary governor. If you're planetary governor and there's a Living Saint in the subsector you're going to make sure you're friends. The admech even existing is more a downside, if we had Muspelheim or Svartlheim's setup we'd be further along.
The black colored war gear and being a planetary governor in the first place are really the main advantages there. Planetary governor is a gimme because we're playing an empire quest. You have to be in charge of something for it to be an empire quest.
So the biggest thing is the super special equipment. But that's not particularly significant by itself considering we hardly ever use it ourselves.
@Durin
1. I thought all the soldiers in Dis were supposed to be elites so shouldn't they all have died?
2. What sort of ratio on purchases made with the current glut can we expect from the sirens?
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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. not that elte
2. unknown
on Marcy fist not all details of the Omake are correct, she may have defeated Exalted Greater Daemons but you can not be sure that she permakilled any
second she may be powerful enough to put her in the top tier of non-gods but there are still double digit numbers of people who could take her in a fair fight, and hundreds that could take her in an unfair fight
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. a nit of surprise that the Ancient Wanderer is in the region, it seems that she has a title among the people of Avernus
They were all labeled as Elite Heavy Infantry Regiment, and every one of those units was eliminated on the military spreadsheet with the death of all elites.
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- Alice Springs, Australia
yes but they fell under normal units rather then elites like the stormtroopers,
I should have called them Veteran rather then elite on second thoughts
Well, thanks Marcelee. Though I a bit miffed that we didn't get to see the thermonuclear battle tiger... oh well, we'll just hold onto that idea for a later war.
[X] Thin their numbers
-[X] Dis: Harass them- You will be able to cause major damage at a incredible exchange rate if you have your faster units hunt the fleeing enemy down, though if they regroup your harassers could suffer.
-[X] The Lonely Citadel: Harass them- You will be able to cause major damage at a incredible exchange rate if you have your faster units hunt the fleeing enemy down, though if they regroup your harassers could suffer.
-[X] Bombard it- If you have available ships bombard the shattered remains of the siege camp you will be able to inflict major damage over time, and prevent them shoring up their defences.
-[X] Void: Pursuit- Chase them to the edge of the system, losing some more of your lighter ships in exchange for destroying many of the enemy ships so that you can be sure that you will not encounter them in the future.
I prefer this compared to trying to assault their big camp. We've already suffered losses, and I see no reason to suffer more when they're going to just die within a year or so anyways. Their ability to do stuff on Avernus is going to be limited, and the wildlife is likely to be aggressive about killing them. If they want to try to attack a city, let them. They'll die trying, and it'll be less losses for us if they do.
[X] Thin their numbers
-[X] Dis: Harass them- You will be able to cause major damage at a incredible exchange rate if you have your faster units hunt the fleeing enemy down, though if they regroup your harassers could suffer.
-[X] The Lonely Citadel: Harass them- You will be able to cause major damage at a incredible exchange rate if you have your faster units hunt the fleeing enemy down, though if they regroup your harassers could suffer.
-[X] Bombard it- If you have available ships bombard the shattered remains of the siege camp you will be able to inflict major damage over time, and prevent them shoring up their defences.
-[X] Void: Pursuit- Chase them to the edge of the system, losing some more of your lighter ships in exchange for destroying many of the enemy ships so that you can be sure that you will not encounter them in the future.
I prefer this compared to trying to assault their big camp. We've already suffered losses, and I see no reason to suffer more when they're going to just die within a year or so anyways. Their ability to do stuff on Avernus is going to be limited, and the wildlife is likely to be aggressive about killing them. If they want to try to attack a city, let them. They'll die trying, and it'll be less losses for us if they do.
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Well hopefully we can have a break from the fighting as we are going to need to replace some major losses amongst our psyker for one. Though annihilating their cap ship contingent is awesome and should set them back a bit.
Pursue and destroy all chaos forces and even with a glut getting some soul currency with the sirens is better then none.
Pursue and destroy all chaos forces and even with a glut getting some soul currency with the sirens is better then none.
[X] Thin their numbers
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- Sweden
It was perhaps a bit too much, but as long as the Trust is suitably ill at ease with a human-xenos hybrid running about, and taking the appropriate counter measures (the Inquisition approaching Ridcully if he can scry for more information about her, Clovis making inroads with the Sirens) then I'd argue that she isn't really a Mary Sue.Point taken, but its still more cringe inducing when its your writing...
Cool.
I'll do the same thing with Mittens, he's a dangerous, and sapient xeno after all.
Purposefully throwing a civilisation into extinction on arbitrary grounds is utterly ridiculous and fitting behaviour of the Followers of the Abomination.
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[X] Thin their numbers
Well, Helheim was bleeding edge of bleeding edge in psyker research, Marcy is a final product of a very long program, had her genes spliced with various wildlife and probably wasn't Alpha in the beginning. Doesn't seem to far fetched to me.
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- Alice Springs, Australia
The biggest factor was the wildlife, Avernus has been making stable Alphas levels for ... well you are not sure but at least millions of years. The Helheimers effectively bootstrapped their way to Marcy using Avernus, and a lot of luck.
I am pretty sure you don't want to go down that route. It will end up with either the removal of omake rewards or someone writing a beautiful 20k words omake about Rotbart falling to Chaos. Weaponisation of Omakes is a MAD situation. The only winning move is not to play.
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I definitely WANT to go down that road, but I can't because I'd get dogpiled by everyone then.
I'll just swallow my frustration, as usual :/
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notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
There's not really a point in doing the thermonuclean battle tiger anymore, since Deathstrikes are expensive and we've already won.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
This sooo much.
I just put the idea out there...it being canon was happy, but not anticipated.
We could use it now? A big finale to the war.
Not much point, but it would be an "interesting" climax.
If they didn't do that I'd be very dissapointed.
Even if she wasn't they should be doing that.
Nianque
Verified Dragon
Hence not using the deathstrikes as per my above suggestion.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Eh we'd have been fine.
Thermonuclear tiger would have popped and if that had still not been enough then all of the heracles descent ships and if we really needed too some ship drops ourselves would have done the trick.
[X] Thin their numbers
As pointed out already, use of Deathstrikes isn't cheap. There's no reason to use them now.
Without the Deathstrikes to generate the initial fire, the tiger would end up being much smaller than otherwise.