Tower of Babel: A Bronze Age Space Civ Quest
- Thread starter OldShadow
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- France
You would need at least 6 years.
But don't stress touch much, it will be a tutorial event.
Like the tutorial boss in Dark Soul.
- Location
- France
Yes, the vote is open.
And with this, I am going to bed, so my answers will take a little longueur than usual.
dgr11897
FBI surveillance Tank
- Location
- Behind you
[X] Songbirds of Changes [Living Tower]
Because Living Tower be cool. Also I feel like this'd be the least resource intense version (Birds can reproduce on their own), and I think people will probably start taking care of these Songbirds or learning to use them, perhaps as messengers.
Because Living Tower be cool. Also I feel like this'd be the least resource intense version (Birds can reproduce on their own), and I think people will probably start taking care of these Songbirds or learning to use them, perhaps as messengers.
- Pronouns
- he/him
[X] Songbirds of Changes [Living Tower]
i agree with this, if we can see and know what the moods are we can research what's causing them passively, or if something interesting happens invest an action into it.
now, i feel so fucking happy and vindicated with that result for taming the seas, this is what happens when you coalesce your magic into a narrative, baby! we get a free fuckin' god-city! synergy and compounding factors are where it's at in this quest! i straight up cackled maniacally when i read those results
now, as for that probe, this is rather concerning. it looks like we're a long-lost clone-colony of some other human polity, or perhaps a virused total annihilation expy, that's been left here for a few thousand years, and that empire that used to be developmental has turned to war.
but there is one thing that's very important for us to know, so i call upon the grand wisdom of the @OldShadow : what does this probe wish from us; is it hostile?
i agree with this, if we can see and know what the moods are we can research what's causing them passively, or if something interesting happens invest an action into it.
now, i feel so fucking happy and vindicated with that result for taming the seas, this is what happens when you coalesce your magic into a narrative, baby! we get a free fuckin' god-city! synergy and compounding factors are where it's at in this quest! i straight up cackled maniacally when i read those results
now, as for that probe, this is rather concerning. it looks like we're a long-lost clone-colony of some other human polity, or perhaps a virused total annihilation expy, that's been left here for a few thousand years, and that empire that used to be developmental has turned to war.
but there is one thing that's very important for us to know, so i call upon the grand wisdom of the @OldShadow : what does this probe wish from us; is it hostile?
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[X] Songbirds of Changes [Living Tower]
- Location
- Hollister
[X] Songbirds of Changes [Living Tower]
- Location
- United states of america
[X] Watcher of Dreams [Tower that Think]
- Location
- Somewhere between the stars
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Hum. Seems like the prediction that we were dealing with a dyson sphere of some kind might been, at very least on the right track.
Seems like, it was meant for more civil purposes, before they started using it for Death Star and arms factories. Or so is my read of it.
Though, doesn't explain how that resulted in the doom, something which seems a lot more magical in effect. So, I'm missing something here.
[X] Songbirds of Changes [Living Tower]
As for votes. This isn't as good at divining the cause, but reading the descriptions, i feel that ability to know when those mundane changes are coming to be the better one.
Given how our fate tower works, as long as they find out that something is happening , they should be able to mitigate the worst of it.
The eye thing is....hm. either really good or bad. We've not spend that much time on building up military applications. Instead focusing on improving everything. Which isn't terrible, but could be better if it's hostile.
Seems like, it was meant for more civil purposes, before they started using it for Death Star and arms factories. Or so is my read of it.
Though, doesn't explain how that resulted in the doom, something which seems a lot more magical in effect. So, I'm missing something here.
[X] Songbirds of Changes [Living Tower]
As for votes. This isn't as good at divining the cause, but reading the descriptions, i feel that ability to know when those mundane changes are coming to be the better one.
Given how our fate tower works, as long as they find out that something is happening , they should be able to mitigate the worst of it.
The eye thing is....hm. either really good or bad. We've not spend that much time on building up military applications. Instead focusing on improving everything. Which isn't terrible, but could be better if it's hostile.
IamtooSleepy
I came here to be an ant
Best result reach? Holy hell.
I wonder if the Guild of Navigators can help us navigate the star as well as the sea.
Huh, that's a lot more impactful and nicer than expect. This combine with it being part of synergy for the best result of the sea action make me much less dissapointed about not taking inborn command.
That does not seem.. all that useful. Predicting shifting mood does not seem like something that can't be done by Keeper of Harmony or looking into God-City dream, albeit at much less efficiency. Also, letting the tower that is noted for being disdainful of the mundane is charge of ubiqutous surveillance does not sound like a good idea.
Remember the last time we give people from that overly curious tower responsibility of something that happens to involves dream? It's all end well, but still. Sorry Tower that Think, I know you are a good girl.. eh, a good god, but I don't feel like I can trust you with this yet.
On one hand, something precise and not under direct control of tower whose principle is doing the bare minimum is a good thing. On the other hand, Keepers already doing a lot for us, should we put even more burden on them?
Having the same problem with the songbird of knowing what rather than how and why, with additional baggage of focus solely on physical change instead of social dynamic, which is, you know, the actual thing we try to fund out.
All of them are flawed in one way or the other, but that's true for everything. I will think about this more later.
Well... that's... truly something.
I wonder how much of that is metaphor. Does the star literally god in the same way our moon and cities are? Or are they just an hyperadvanced "normal" technological civlization.
And it seem us - or any life that currently existed on Candle - do not come from this world or are truly natural... And the fact that thing seem to strart going heywire after human appeared is a bit unnerving.
Also, that knowledge about "strange light that could travel faster than other light" sound like something that would have been extremely useful have we gone with the lightship instead of comet-fortress.
Wait, so two circles is two turns. Welp, I thought we would have a bit more time.
But there is no reason to start panicking yet. We should not immedietly jump to the conclusion that the probe is hostile or that we would be Immediately enter a wa-
Never mind. Let start panicking.
dgr11897
FBI surveillance Tank
- Location
- Behind you
TBH my hope for the Eye is that it'll basically note us down as a Bronze Age Civ and then leave. Star trek was mentioned so maybe they have a Prime Directive. Just need to... Hide/give conventional explanations for all our magic bullshit. The Hive Queen stuff could just be normal animals we've heavily domesticated for example.
With a bit of looking back over it, it seems like the Doom was composed of Storms, Famine, Madness, and Plague. So it could pretty easily be some sort of broad spectrum psychic/radiation attack.
- Location
- France
Cannot be divined yet.
In other words it is going to eat our asses for breakfast and then dump us into the rest of the setting in a "supposed to lose" fight. Gotcha.
- Location
- Somewhere between the stars
- Pronouns
- She/Her
We allready know this world is artificially colonized, and this is something the invaders probably allready know or can find out easily enough when they see humans.
The insects and other stuff, most likely explanation then, is that Cradle kept some kind of ancient technology, like a gene/biological machine manipulator. And that even if the humans don't know how it works, they can still use it/manipulate this machine to some degree.
Given how the egg was seemingly creating lifeforms/clones, this shouldn't be that far-feetched. So Cradle humans would be seen as idiots using modern technology and thinking it's magic, as the most simple/logical answer.
We are the only magic civilization around after all. It's going to take a bit before space-traveling aliens go "wait, magic isn't just sufficently advanced technology on this planet"
- Location
- France
Okay, due to your level of Divination, I am going to reveal domething.
There was alway going to be something coming to Craddle after the second turn.
But the nature of it was rolled.
The roll was a natural 1.
What is coming come from the Engines of Extinctions.
Since I am not a monster, what is comming will be degraded, and not made for battle.
But yeah, be warned.
There was alway going to be something coming to Craddle after the second turn.
But the nature of it was rolled.
The roll was a natural 1.
What is coming come from the Engines of Extinctions.
Since I am not a monster, what is comming will be degraded, and not made for battle.
But yeah, be warned.
[sarcasm]
What else, what else shall ye give us, oh Holy Clusterfuck, ancient idol that feeds on human misfortune?
[/sarcasm]
I mean, it's funny in a bleak way that just as we get progress on cleaning up after one apocalypse, we have another one dropped. Like the universe saw us clawing our way back, said "NO! BAD PLANET" and slapped us with newspaper.
- Location
- Warsaw
[X] Songbirds of Changes [Living Tower]
- Pronouns
- He/him
just because we are the only civilization with actual magic disciplines doesn't mean that the other civs aren't affected by the rules of magic or its phenomena I'm guessing that an unfortunate combination of events involving the already mentioned corruption of what was supposed to be a benevolent technology (Dyson spheres) towards war and the suffering that was brought by said wars lead to the star itself being corrupted as well which lead to its light having the unfortunate side effect of causing the doom (or well that's my theory)
- Location
- Somewhere between the stars
- Pronouns
- She/Her
What is the current general lifespan? I assume for mundanes we might be looking, at like 40-60 years old. Even if there is plenty of food and general safety, medicine is going to be an issue.
For magic nerds i got no idea. I assume it depends somewhat from tower to tower, with living tower being longest and Sundial the shortest.
For magic nerds i got no idea. I assume it depends somewhat from tower to tower, with living tower being longest and Sundial the shortest.
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Lifespan and the Order
- Location
- France
A Mundane lives for about 60-70 years, mostly due to good living conditions and the fact the God-Cities can quarantine districts and keep the water and air untainted during epidemics, but with a lack of actual medical services available.
Philosophers can easily live to 100-150 years, with each Tower having their ways of extending life and reducing the effect of aging.
Those of the Living Tower enhance their body through rituals and elixirs, but still grow old and die at around 120-130 years, if in good health until their last weeks.
Those of the White Tower bent fate, creating specific conditions where they are near-certain of dying, but making it so they cannot easely die another way. But they still age, and even if they can slow mental decay, they still grow senile at around 110-140 years.
Those of the Sundial Tower use their arts to retard the impact of time on their body, at about 1 year of aging for 2-3 lived. Depending on when they stopped being an apprentice, and could cast on themselves the rituals, they live between 100-150 years
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Those of the Tower that Think enhance their Anima and bind it with their body. They die when their Anima either grow too unstable and destroy their bodies, or when it becomes too weak to sustain their lives. With this, the Tower that Think as the Philosophers that died the soonest of old age, at around 80-90 years old, but some of their numbers can reach the 200 years mark, even if at that point there are living mummies almost unable to move.
The Order needs live extension rituals because of how much time it takes to train a Philosopher.
The Order recruits most of the time between the ages of 8 and 16 years old.
The young recruits are apprentices, doing the dirty work and learning for 10-20 years.
When they prove their values, they become Journeyman (or woman, or person, the Order do not care about questions of gender or identity).
They are allowed to practice the simpler rituals of the Order, most of the time on themselves or what they own, to travel and to learn under different masters, some even switching Tower at that point, and they must create a true (minor) Working to become Philosopher, taking in average between 20-30 years.
Only then are they truly Philosophers, allowed to work on the major Workings, after an average of 40 years of training in the Order.
This means your average member of the Order will become a Philosopher at 52 years old.
Worse, only between 10 and 30% of apprentices will become one day Philosopher, with the other being thrown out for failures or breaking the laws of the Order, leaving because of the strict rules to respect and the constant work demanded to become a Philosopher (about 10-12 hours of work a day, with very few, if any rest days), or dying/breaking their mind during a failed experiment or ritual.
So the Order really needed lives extension to just have enough experienced Philosophers.
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