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Get that from the Jedi holocron?
Star Wars: The Chosen One (An Anakin Skywalker Quest)
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Get that from the Jedi holocron?
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I never said we couldn't? It's just an iconic piece of the star wars universe and deserves mentioning if we'd have difficulties or delays in acquiring it. I have two things that consistently come to mind when I think of Star Wars -- R2D2 and a Jedi holding a light saber.
That is probably the most impressive thing about your post,
In all seriousness, very nice.
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A big issue with being a mainstream Jedi is that we are instantly on the Sith kill list. It doesn't matter if we are a child, baby, or anything else. Once we go with Qui-Gon, we are on that kill list. That means we either have to kill Palpatine, which is near impossible with how he pwnt 4 Jedi Masters at the same time like they were scrubs. Or, we need to hide from him which will be incredibly difficult since the Empire will expand to encompass most of the known Galaxy. Or join him, which is something people probably don't want since it is a complete cannon re-hash.
As for lightsabers, Anakin kept losing his, hand to hand combat for the win. With the Holocrons, especially the Sith we can easily make our own. We are also good friends with Padme, that means we will visit Naboo and R2-D2 at some point. Family vacation after coming back from training? Your point about Jar-Jar is very apt. I have a sense he will be our arch nemisis. Our Law to his Chaos.
Okay yeah, no way going with the Jedi now. The Sith will know Anakin is a Force Thing while the Jedi will be clueless.
I don't know about the good friends with Padme part, but on the other hand I don't really know how he managed to have contact with her in canon either so I can't argue much there. Still wouldn't be the same so we'd be pretty locked out of R2.
As for the Sith, if we want to have a big impact they're going to notice us. No way around it. And while people have mention they don't want to be near them because of the danger, I'd argue that not being near them is more dangerous in the long run. After all, if they think they can turn you they're not going to kill you and being outside the Jedi Order will probably make it easier for Palps to kill us during the War itself.
I was also assuming the goal was to derail things enough that Palps couldn't get Order 66 to go off and that we wouldn't have to deal with him establishing the Empire.
I've always fell in with the crowd that claims that scene was an attempt to reference the scene where Obi-wan beat Maul, and that he knew every way that things could go in a situation like that so Anakin would lose if he tried to continue there.
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Anakin does still have the Jedi Holocron. Beyond that, we don't know what full Training with the Followers will entail. It might be like how the Jedi do things, and he'll follow a master around the Galaxy while learning, or it might be that he buckles down and spend a few years at the Followers home base. If it's the former, there are a lot of options for getting more Jedi training. If it's the latter, then he'll finish mastering Teras Kasi (and in so doing be able to do Lightsaber Tier Damage with his bare hands and be able to resist anything Palaptine will try to do to his mind), and then be able to go find one of the many, many options we the players know about for further training.
Ossus even makes sense for an in character pilgrimage. Anakin has the Jedi Knight Ambition, and it was literally the Order's homeworld for millennia. Then it's just a matter of letting the Force guide us. Really, that's the whole show anyway. When the student is ready, the Master will appear. The Force does that, sending masters or knights to aspirants when it can, if the Knights or Masters listen to the Force anyway. The Chosen One? He's going to get a Jedi Mentor when he needs one, if he needs one.
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I'm kinda taken with the Followers of Palawa and the idea of waking up Ood Bnar and be trained by him one day, as we introduce him to the new galaxy. Maybe also get him home to the Jedi eventually, but there's also the fact that losing the ambition or failing it because we gave up on it will irk me. I'm the sort of person that can't give a thumb up on a comment or video no matter how much I love it if it has a number like 100, 111, 115. It's very weird, but yes.
Since Padme will still have R2 and she won't hand it to Anakin until they marry as they exchanged droids as a wedding gift from what I remember, she getting C-3PO, it's fine if we don't chose the Jedi.
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Looking up Ood, he'd be good with knowledge and Jedi philosophy but not good at any form of combat aside from Shii cho
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I feel like you're confusing Iconic with Important. Lightsabers are nice...but not as important is the Force. R2 is neat...but not that important in and of himself.
Honestly, I would be okay with seeing R2 later as a companion to a Padme more independent from Anakin. She has so much potential to be an interesting character she could go off and live up to here, away from the Prequels faults. R2 can be her cute droid companion, we'll see her again and we can meet him then. They'll have had lots of adventures and we'll have had adventures and they can be friends who respect each other, instead of being wrapped up in a terrible romance.
That's fine. He's be interesting mostly on an ideological level for me, since I doubt he'd agree with how the Order is now. He would also be an invaluable source of knowledge on the Sith, since I doubt he'd be on board with the policy of destroying knowledge on the Sith. He knew them well, and would likely be highly unconvinced they were truly gone. He'd certainly be a massive wake-up call for the Coruscanti, which would bring me great joy.
We know that we'll be stuck at the monastery until we pass the trials if we go with Master Zan.
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Leaving for the Palwa will lock us onto a single planet for an extended period of time. Leaving with the Jedi has us go to at least two (Coruscant and Naboo) plus likely to be several more once we are a padawan since the likely teachers tend to travel. And we have a perk that gives us 100 XP for each time we go to a new planet. Also the Jedi have support services (such as ships) from the Republic and are welcomed on a lot of worlds with local support resources available. Honestly one of my go to worlds would be Kashayyk and the Wookies mainly to get a different view on things from a very much warrior race that also maintains harmony with nature. That should provide a different philosophy insight from the more restrained philosophy of the Jedi.
And Teras Kasi, we can get trainers to continue it with the Jedi, while going to the Palwa we cannot get equivilant trainers. Almas Academy is locked out until we are an adult which would lock us out of the Jedi Knight ambition for a while. Also the Jedi archives is a big reason to go to Coruscant, they have knowledge on a lot of force sects and their location their, knowledge the Palwa do not have which would let us figure out additional moves.
And Teras Kasi, we can get trainers to continue it with the Jedi, while going to the Palwa we cannot get equivilant trainers. Almas Academy is locked out until we are an adult which would lock us out of the Jedi Knight ambition for a while. Also the Jedi archives is a big reason to go to Coruscant, they have knowledge on a lot of force sects and their location their, knowledge the Palwa do not have which would let us figure out additional moves.
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Insightful Comparison: Honestly we should try and get HK-47, that droid is the best.
Factual Statement: Then we can kill all the meat bags.
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Yes! This, all of HK-47!!
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I'm still trying to figure out a reasonable way to get you guys HK-47...
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Just make him a Nat100 roll when searching through a junk shop/junk yard.
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Star Wars Galaxies: Trials of Obi-Wan
Apparently at some point HK-47 ended up in the hands of a spacer???
Apparently at some point HK-47 ended up in the hands of a spacer???
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Plot twist.
The processor you used to build C3PO was HK-47's. Upon viewing a bloodbath of combat the memories shall awaken.
And HK-47 spends every minute bitching about how clumsy and inefficient C-3PO's body is.
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Or just visit Mustafar...
I'm now imagining a scene where as Vader burns
Amused Statement: my new Master is quite crispy.
I say we go for the Jedi. We'll still be able to continue our training in Teras Kasi at the Temple, as well as receiving significantly superior training in the Force + Lightsaber, so in terms of skill growth, it's clearly the superior option. Particularly for lightsaber training in fact, as if we go to Palawa, we might not even touch a lightsaber for a decade, which, given how long skills take to train to mastery, would leave us woefully unprepared to face any darksider, let alone Sidious.
For those worried about how restrictive the Jedi would be, the GM has said that we'll have the choice to leave before becoming a full padawan, which means we're only locked into a handful of years and if we don't like where this path leads us, we can easily leave. Furthermore, if we decide to stay we'll have our choice of masters (which means a lot of different development options, both in terms of skills and beliefs/personality), plus yearly missions to various planets around the galaxy. That hardly seems restrictive to me. Contrast this to the Palawa, where we''re locked into a decade of training, during which time we'd be unable to leave Bunduki.
Also, for the people worried that us going to Coruscant could derail canon enough that Plagueis survives, I would argue that us not going with Qui-Gon and therefore removing ourselves from the rest of the plot of the Phantom Menace would cause a much more significant derail than the other way around.
All of this on top of the IC and OOC motivator that is Anakin's ambition to become a Jedi, and it seems a straightforward choice to me.
For those worried about how restrictive the Jedi would be, the GM has said that we'll have the choice to leave before becoming a full padawan, which means we're only locked into a handful of years and if we don't like where this path leads us, we can easily leave. Furthermore, if we decide to stay we'll have our choice of masters (which means a lot of different development options, both in terms of skills and beliefs/personality), plus yearly missions to various planets around the galaxy. That hardly seems restrictive to me. Contrast this to the Palawa, where we''re locked into a decade of training, during which time we'd be unable to leave Bunduki.
Also, for the people worried that us going to Coruscant could derail canon enough that Plagueis survives, I would argue that us not going with Qui-Gon and therefore removing ourselves from the rest of the plot of the Phantom Menace would cause a much more significant derail than the other way around.
All of this on top of the IC and OOC motivator that is Anakin's ambition to become a Jedi, and it seems a straightforward choice to me.
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No, I'm just coming to terms with people having dramatically different priorities in the start wars universe. Not having access to a light saber and R2 when we could is something I personally would wish to avoid, and I thought more people would share that view than it appears.
Oh shit the archives! We wouldn't have access to that unless we join the order. Can't we find information on just about anything in there so long as it wasn't destroyed, or was it slightly more limited than that?
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Who needs the archives when you have the Force? Also, all the really good stuff will have been purged or carefully monitored by the Council of First Knowledge. We would need to be a Master before we would even get a chance to peek at things and Palpatine will be wrecking havoc by then.
I think Death Star, Darth Vader, and sexy Liea when I think about Star Wars. If I am annoyed, then using Force Choke on Jar-Jar violently, as well. Becuase mesa soooooooo annoying. ;p
@Geordiefan It is pointless just to join the Jedi unless we aim to become a Knight, since that is what completes the ambition. Also 10 years is for non-Chosen students in martial arts. I would say 3-5 years if we focus heavily on the training with how things have progressed so far. As for the plot derail, the only thing is more Gungans die and the Trade Federation isn't blown up. There is a chance at other things happening, but I would consider those outcomes a lot less likely. The biggest issue is being put on Palpatine's kill list if we go.
If we do go we have to commit to one of these three outcomes
1. Killing Palpatine (highly unlikely unless we bomb him from orbit, goodbye Senate)
2. Hiding somewhere (very hard with all the soldiers and force minions he has as Emperor)
3. Joining him (murdering children and retreading cannon, here we come)
He is a literal kill dozer and I can't see any way we can defeat him in the time we have by going with the Jedi. Better to lay low and wait until the Rebellion heats up. Cultivate our training/power to defeat him while outside his purview. That is why a big Force technique we have to learn is some kind of concealment. That should be a priority whichever path we choose.
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Death Star and Vader are what I think of in the Original Trilogy. I watched the Prequel Trilogy first as a kid so I was kinda blind to all of it's faults, and it imprinted on me.
Actually, Palps would have died to Mace Windu had Anakin not stopped him. Palps was good, but his main thing wasn't fighting*. And I think Order 66 was after that attack, so really there's just the Chaos his death causes which is (probably) far preferable to the alternative (assuming he doesn't have a recording or something that'd screw us over).
We don't really avoid Palps' kill list if we don't go in the long run either though. If we make a big enough difference in the war we're gonna eventually be put on his radar, and more likely than not end up against him. Unless we don't want to try and make a big difference in the war its kinda unavoidable.
Edit: And the time we take to master the martial art would be at best ~5 years assuming we monofocus it. 3 years assumes it would remain 2 actions a level which it seem to not.
*Granted he's still damn good, and the main reason Mace would win is because he decided to specialize in hard countering Dark Siders.
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Dude, have you seen Sidious character sheet? Palpatine is a master of most of the Light saber forms.
And, The only reason Mace Windu actually had a chance to defeat Palpatine was because of Vapaad. Mace was also one of the greatest warriors of the Jedi order.
Its also possible palpatine threw that fight, in order to convince Anakin to join him. He is fully capable of that.
Edit : I would prefer mastering the Martial art first then once we are done, find one of the other Jedi order. It will also ensure that Anakin is not too indoctrinated by Coruscanti Jedi philophosy. It is what I am most afraid about, that this thread would actually vote to fully accept the current mainstream Jedi belief.
If we are going to be a Jedi, I would like to be the Old republic style.
And, The only reason Mace Windu actually had a chance to defeat Palpatine was because of Vapaad. Mace was also one of the greatest warriors of the Jedi order.
Its also possible palpatine threw that fight, in order to convince Anakin to join him. He is fully capable of that.
Edit : I would prefer mastering the Martial art first then once we are done, find one of the other Jedi order. It will also ensure that Anakin is not too indoctrinated by Coruscanti Jedi philophosy. It is what I am most afraid about, that this thread would actually vote to fully accept the current mainstream Jedi belief.
If we are going to be a Jedi, I would like to be the Old republic style.
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Throw the fight? Huh, never considered that. Would have though that would be too risky. And no I haven't seen the character sheet,
... what the fuck? That's... shit I feel like that's more powerful than he should be, but I digress.
I'm just gonna catch some sleep and try to forget that I have to get up in less than 6 hours.
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Yeah, this is exactly what I thought since Sith grow stronger from pain as it gets them angry and thus gets them hating the ones causing pain.