Carrnage
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- Location
- New Zealand
collector warship?
Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution
- Thread starter Hoyr
- Start date
- Location
- Pale Blue Dot
If it's a non-council backed operation, the Council overlooking it will basically make the Council look so bad in Terran eyes that a Council seat would probably be seen as a trade federation seat. Useful for economic and political games, irrelevant for defensive purposes.
If it's a council backed operation, the only way I could see it would be as an assassination/tech grab operation. Step one: deniable troops does as much damage as possible, tries to kill Revy if possible. Make certain armed agressors stay on the planet. Step two: Council flotilla swoops in with an army and 'saves' the situation. STG and Spectres come in and grabs all they can, sabotage the rest. After something like that - and I can see no possible way at least part of it would not get out with the interest Cerberus, SA, how many companies willing to spy and how many scientist with things they want to know - the SA would afterwards basically consider the Council the enemy, and the only 'acceptable' aliens being the Quarians and Krogan, as other species who have been backstabbed by 'those bastards'. The Asari might be behind the whole operation as an effort to stay 'the most technological race'.
It could be a Terminus led operation simply because they consider the SA busy with the Batarians, and the Council has proven itself to be kind of toothless anyway, and to drive a wedge between SA and the Council. Again, the Asari might be behind the whole operation as an effort to stay 'the most technological race'. Hmm. Was this what happened to the Quarians, just with the Geth as catspaws?
It could also be a Batarian 'first strike', for obvious reasons. Landing a big ship for slaves would fit their philosophy.
Collectors is a 'maybe'. If so, swarms will be incoming soon to freeze people to be carted away. Tigers are nice. Landing a big ship for slaves would fit their philosophy.
Unless the Council changes modus operandi from canon, the best I can see for them right now is that they get a 'no gain no loss' politically, with 'Loss to major loss' being a lot more probable.
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Geth seem more likely: it's a bit early for Collectors, and they have a different MO. Good thing we invested so heavily in anti-hacking tech.
On the plus side, they 'only' have 34 ships in orbit, so our Pyndas and anti-starship missile equipped Gladii should rip through then fairly quickly, like ~30 minutes quickly. Speaking of which, one of those Gladii should have jumped to FTL the moment the SA had a solid read on that dread, so reinforcements should be here faster than you'd think. All we need to do is delay and we win.
Revy has no idea that Cerberus is even a thing. That said in a OoC context Cerberus wants to keep Revy around and alive, she way too useful.
Jack was probably napping, Misaki was probably in medical, Kasumi is somewhere.
The gods demand sacrifices of free time/personal actions
Let's see some of the PSS's projects.
A verity of assorted life support technologies, water management, food, etc.
And I'm out of ideas right now
Becoming a dragon requires one or more of
Extremis - Nanobot Cyborg Dragon
Beating a Reaper until the
Real Good Biotech- Biological Dragon
Uploading your self some how - Cyber Dragon
More Techs - Other Dragons/Others way to become above dragons
Pretty sure she is not, dice gods tell me she is right handed. Mind for a lot of things the suit makes that kinda irrelevant.
Well as @TheEye has pointed out the extinction range of a laser beam in air is pretty close to 26km and a GARDIAN is pretty useless past 20km. As the ship never got that close... nope nada.
Yes she's been borrowing a lab occasionally to poke at the Prothean thingies.
The thing with Jack is that Jack has a pretty massive monopoly on violence in any personal conflict. Jack also has no problem with violence, considers it an effective problem solving tool, has no qualms about killing, and is a combat addict (she abuses the fuck out of that testing range).
The only way to get Jack to do much of anything is to try diplomacy. If it's something Jack wants anyway, well your fine. If it's not well better hope what you said wasn't taken as a threat. (Or have a good enough bribe) The people Jack trusts, has a bond with, or have an significant negotiating power in any sense are all at PI at the moment. A lot of Jack current lack of hostility is derived from the fact that Jack trusts Revy specifically not to be an asshole, due in large part from Revy being the on that created Jack's Magi amp and thus is responsible for Indigo. Jack thinks of Revy as sort of a magic space wizard that knows things from worth while to esoteric. Also the PI people/stuff are all Revy's so layer of protection there.
Therapy as nice as it is isn't going to fix a lot of Jacks issues, living a "safe" life on the other hand, gaining experience that lead Jack away from her current mentality... that's the key. The therapy may or may not help, but by itself will not.
So yeah you try preforming therapy on, much less raising, a kid that can casually kill you and would just shrug at your bloody corpse. Oh and she has a co-operational personality which is the saner and more reasonable of the two, even if it does have fairly similar views on the use violence. It's talking mass of biotic energy shaped like a cat.
Have I mentioned that Jack is fucked up in the head? By human standards anyway. If she was Krogan they'd give her an officer's rank and some troops.
Is Revy the best to raise Jack in a parental sense? Nope not at all... yeah no... it is so outside Revy's ballpark. On the other hand Revy is one of the few that has the critical qualities that make her even an option. Gaver Dor is probably the only other one as is.
Or at least she would need to be part of a solution for a while. That is part of what lead to the social workers comment. It wasn't supposed to be taken 100% seriously, but it touches on a key issue of Jack's situation.
She is almost a century old, Asari maidens are expected to have a "childish" mind set by Asari standards, skills education and other things... those grow at rate similar to humans one the get the biological part of childhood is done with. While I have specifically noted Liara's badass credentials in quest that's actually derived from ME1 canon when she fairly casually talks about soloing small pirate and merc forces with only her biotics when the get in the way of playing in the dirt... er research.
A repulsor turret eats into the suit's energy budget (~14% each). To many used at once can disable flight while the are being fired. Also produces giant beams of "I'm over here"!
Uh that's stealth gear not cloaking, so bonuses to not being seen, and some to not being shot/targeted. I did say stealth right?
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Which really just reinforces my point that it's not going to be particularly useful for avoiding an enemy once combat has begun.
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Getting Too Old For This...
- Location
- The Shadowlands
...Humanity has officially created Adamantine, I don't know how to feel about this.
Chargone
Invisable operator
- Location
- New Zealand
Lithobreaking = barely distinguishable from "crash landing", right?
While Possible, it seems unlikely that the landing ship is taking off again, at least not before the area's pacified for repairs and/or any hostile (to it) fleet elements are eliminated.
This could be significant.
While Possible, it seems unlikely that the landing ship is taking off again, at least not before the area's pacified for repairs and/or any hostile (to it) fleet elements are eliminated.
This could be significant.
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
So as you can guess I plan on making a proposal for a couple robots, so I have to ask what is currently on the market for Domestic Robots, Medical Robots and Heavy Duty Security robots?
Also if there is any rough template I can use for each.
- Location
- The U.P.
You may just want focus on a Medical Bot, make a Mister Handy or improve a Construction Bot. Our drones already fill the role of heavy duty security bots. I get that the fallout games have cool robots but we have filled the role combat robots with flying killer drones swarms.
As for templates the first pages has links to most of the things like the Drones or Tiger. That may give you some ideas.
Probably not:
Basically it hit slowly enough that any landing system, or even the engines if they are strong enough, would have easily taken the force.
Okay, back at a real computer, so I can stack partial quotes together again!
Basically a liquid fuel rocket about the size of a rifle bullet, maybe with a tiny mass lightening ME core inside though I'm not sure that would help fight drag much. The missile flies along to the target along its pre-programmed course, then flips over (getting the thing to flip would probably require an ME core to counter the gyroscopic stabilization, given that the whole thing will be spinning rather fast to get everything else to work), and self-destructs, the exploding fuel disintegrating all the inner workings and sending them flying out what was previously the "back" of the missile like a tiny shaped charge. Building something like this in reality would be an exercise in frustration, but hell we have super-genius Revy doing the hard part for us.
As I see it, something with that kind of precision probably needs to be more expensive than 10 cr, not least because of all the processing that controller needs to do while it's flying, and how many tiny parts this thing will need to have to work. That's why I'm saying 100 cr, and worth every penny, given that we're talking about a tiny guided missile that should hit its target with the force of an anti-personnel grenade.
) to see if there's a good breakpoint for us when it comes to speeding up Space Factory IIIs, eg where we start to spend more money shaving a quarter off the build time than we will make up in profit when the factory comes online.
Heh, point taken. Lots of 100 it is.
As @UberJJK mentioned, the main point of using a Hydra housing is to give the individual Sagitta missiles a boost up to combat speeds (somewhere between Mach 1-10 for in-atmosphere use), and the Sagitta's own fuel will basically only be used to maintain that speed. I'm thinking that a Sagitta would look something like:
Basically a liquid fuel rocket about the size of a rifle bullet, maybe with a tiny mass lightening ME core inside though I'm not sure that would help fight drag much. The missile flies along to the target along its pre-programmed course, then flips over (getting the thing to flip would probably require an ME core to counter the gyroscopic stabilization, given that the whole thing will be spinning rather fast to get everything else to work), and self-destructs, the exploding fuel disintegrating all the inner workings and sending them flying out what was previously the "back" of the missile like a tiny shaped charge. Building something like this in reality would be an exercise in frustration, but hell we have super-genius Revy doing the hard part for us.
As I see it, something with that kind of precision probably needs to be more expensive than 10 cr, not least because of all the processing that controller needs to do while it's flying, and how many tiny parts this thing will need to have to work. That's why I'm saying 100 cr, and worth every penny, given that we're talking about a tiny guided missile that should hit its target with the force of an anti-personnel grenade.
Meh, sounds good enough to me. We'll have to do some analysis after next quarter's Project Earthfall (guess we can't call it Landfall anymore, huh?
) to see if there's a good breakpoint for us when it comes to speeding up Space Factory IIIs, eg where we start to spend more money shaving a quarter off the build time than we will make up in profit when the factory comes online.Yeah, I thought of that, but dismissed it because the concatenated strings won't fit in the column unless you expand width to an unreasonable degree.
You know, we could probably get away without the mass reduction system (though not the inertial dampener) if we updated the Appia/Virgo line to Superalloys, which should reduce our building costs. That's probably a good idea anyway, as currently the whole line needs a 300-400% markup to match the credit/production exchange rate that we get through Lindsey.
Owning less stuff, yes, but just as importantly, the stuff you have is more mobile, which is also good because it lets workers move to where the jobs are with less overhead.
Heheh.. now I'm imagining our frigates Charge+Nova comboing around in space.
Well, maybe we can have one of our employees adopt her instead? They would be able to provide a more stable home life than Revy or Gaver Dor.
- Location
- Australia
Are either of your guys votes changed by the information above? ie;
@UberJJK - does the energy cost of ~56% for all our Repulsors seem too high to be viable, especially vs flight/shields?
@Yog - the Stealth Gear isn't cloaking or Invisible Man, does that change your mind?
Questions for @Hoyr
-Can we still hack without an Omni-tool, and if so what would one be useful for?
-Please remind me how/why Guardian Angel Shields are useful, and do they take up a similarly-large amount of energy as repulsors? Do they stack or are they redundant?
-Could we use a Hasta as an AMS and would that be any better than an SMG? I thought they used to fit in shoulder mounts, at least...
For my loadout vote I lean towards UberJJK's, except for a few things I'm wondering about including;
-Non-Lethal Package for slaves and VIP's
-Omni-Tool for repair and blade - I'm sure the blade has combat/utility uses that aren't filled by other things
-Redundant/stacking Angel Shields vs AMS SMG's?
-Hand-held Pilum Launcher - I can't recall, does it hold more than the 3-shot mounts we can put in the armour? Why is it better than the laser?
Any thoughts/comments from people would be appreciated.
azoicennead
Overly-Affectionate Zombie Squad
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So, if we're still speculating, I'm going to guess Batarians. In canon, they responded to Arahot going Nova by doubling down on researching their dead Reaper, and I could easily see something similar happening here. So I'm going to guess that we're looking at somewhat indoctrinated Batarians using some degree of Reaper tech.
And honestly, they probably have a fairly good chance of making off with something here, simply because a Dreadnought weight carrier can carry a hell of a lot of people. Impossible to guess how much without precise dimensions or particulars of what it's carrying, but if there's less than 10,000 troops on that thing I'll be very surprised, and depending on it's actual dimensions and the requirements of it's personnel, it could easily be ten times that- if these are Cerberus style pseudo husks or folded up Geth troopers, they really won't need that much in the way of room for each soldier.
So yeah, I'd expect that Revy's going to have to fight off an army here, and not a small one. Let's hope her troops are up to the task.
And honestly, they probably have a fairly good chance of making off with something here, simply because a Dreadnought weight carrier can carry a hell of a lot of people. Impossible to guess how much without precise dimensions or particulars of what it's carrying, but if there's less than 10,000 troops on that thing I'll be very surprised, and depending on it's actual dimensions and the requirements of it's personnel, it could easily be ten times that- if these are Cerberus style pseudo husks or folded up Geth troopers, they really won't need that much in the way of room for each soldier.
So yeah, I'd expect that Revy's going to have to fight off an army here, and not a small one. Let's hope her troops are up to the task.
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Because the last one probably didn't have suicide bombs to prevent that even if he didn't blow himself up on accident.
This is what the 1,000 Tribulus drones are for. If hostile forces get close enough that Revy needs to engage them herself, that's no time to be pussy-footing around.
I think my slight change to @Sylvire and @UberJJK's loadout is both better for our power distribution and gives us options for a wider variety of threats. I suppose I could be persuaded to change the Sagitta VLS strip for an omni-tool, though, if it turns out we need it for hacking. We should have plenty of sagitta missiles following us around anyway, with the Tigers, other Legionaries, and Sagittarius drones.
Ooh, just thought of something else:
[X] Loadout
-[X] Arm 1 Right: (Repulsor Blaster)
-[X] Arm 1 Left: (Omni-tool/Omni-Blade)
-[X] Arm 2 Right: (Hasta-L)
-[X] Arm 2 Left: (Repulsor Blaster)
-[X] Shoulder 1 Right: (Guardian Angel Shield Projector )
-[X] Shoulder 1 Left: (Guardian Angel Shield Projector )
-[X] Shoulder 2 Right: (SMG AMS Turret)
-[X] Shoulder 2 Left: (SMG AMS Turret)
-[X] Carried Weapon: (Hand Held Pilum Launcher)
-[X] Armor Mod: (Warp Barriers Mod)
[X] You'd be far more helpful in the back, not getting shot at.
-[X] While we're back there, re-direct one of our ground factories to manufacturing Piliums; that way we can build one every 13 seconds. The other two factories will be directed to building Sagitta reloads, so we can build 772 of them per second (or 66 per second under the alternate costing)
-[X] Also, reassign 2 Aspidai, 2 Sagittarius, 1 Tribulus, and 1 Lesser Accipiter to our personal drone swarm/protective detail. Transmit one-time pad codes so they will remain under our exclusive control.
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Congratulations to SpaceX, who just now launched a Falcon 9 engine, and successfully landed the first stage. This is a potentially huge milestone in the history of space travel.
Here's the history-making bit:
An even better view, from a helicopter:
Here's the history-making bit:
An even better view, from a helicopter:
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- Location
- United States
[X] TheEyes
On the combat side there is the YMIR, FENRIR and LOKI. Other then that they very, a fair number have vaguely humanoid designs so that the can use already present tools/resources.
But your pretty free to go other places with the design.
I had originally considered calling this update Landing but the city is called that to so landfall it was. Storm Something Something made landfall at Such and Such place.
The ANI can do both normal plug in hacking and wireless hacking if it has access to a wireless module (ANI do not have Wi-Fi systems by default).
However physical access is king in hacking (having physical access to the right person is nigh unto godhood), and the omni-tool is the best sword in the armory. An Omni-tool is a technological Swiss-army knife combining flash fabrication, complex fine physical and electrical manipulation, sensors and analysis and all sorts of other goodies. Being near a object that isn't blackboxed* very heavily with an omni-tool is enough to beat the poor thing into submission. Even if you do have to break out the omni-gel and flash fab a work around. Oh and it's the battlefield engineer's best friend, not to mention all the combat apps.
*You can bet your brain that people are working on writing analysis programs to work around PI's BBing.
TL;DR: Omni-tool="space magic" hacking if you are close enough.
GA shields add 150% of the base shield value again (So two is 400% shields) they also allow shield projection so they can produce an effect like the shield pylons in ME3 the also can create a variety of barriers. Allowing a soldier to project a shield bubble, or fill a door way with a shield barrier. Note that the GA system isn't protecting you when it's doing that. Kasa's (the guys that made it) show-it-off video was suitably dramatic with a SA marine using it to shield a family as he fought a group of raiders, another was of a soldier covering for another after he got blasted around. Tag line is "You've got an Angel on your shoulders."
GA shields don't take up that much power, but they do eat some especially in projection mode part of the point was to abuse the Legionaries energy budget.
Repulsors are the big power hogs, with the suit being limited to about 6 at once, flight system taking up 4-5 of that depending on use level.
Hasta-S types can be used easily as AMS and fit on the shoulders. They aren't as good as the directly optimized SMG blisters, but they also double as effective attack weapons.
Hasta-L isn't as good for AMS work, but it can it also fits on the shoulder, but well look at the movies war machine designs. Technically any weapon on the suit can do AMS duty, its more a question of is it good at it?
Have that, Electrolaser Tazer or Electrotazer, delivers a shock via laser traced ion path.
EDit GA shield better than I recall.
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That's... not necessarily a bad idea.