Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution

[X] Loadout:
-[X]Shoulder 1 Right: Guardian Angle Shield Projector
-[X]Shoulder 2 Left: Guardian Angle Shield Projector
-[X]Shoulder 2 Right: Micro Missile VLS Strip
-[X] Shoulder 1 Left: Repulsor Turret
-[X] Arm Right 1: Omni-Blade
-[X] Arm Left 1: Flamer
-[X] Arm Right 2: Pilum Launcher
-[X] Arm Left 2: Repulsor Blaster
-[X] Carried: Micro Missle Cannon
-[X]Armor Mod: Stealth Mod

[X]Frontline: we have people who we pay to out-militarize hostiles. And we know how to work a Legionare.

I figure this gives us a good set of ranges to fight back in, as well as additional defenses and a disengagement ability.
 
well here we go boys and girls. Either Collectors or a new race.
FIRE ALL THE WEAPONS./FIRE ALL THE DIPLOMACY DEPENDING ON WHO OR WHAT.
 
You may stop panicking as much... its too short, I'd have called it a super-dreadnought and called out it's abnormally large size if it was a proper capital Reaper. Also you have a vague idea of what Reapers look like after getting that Prothean Memory thingy..

It's an otherwise normal looking dreadnought sized carrier. That is built to land on planets, something fishy is up, but it's not a 2km long cuttlefish in the sky.

(This of course technically doesn't mean that Reapers couldn't be involved or something by that's being paranoid and you know what they say about that!)

That it's only paranoia if they aren't out to get you, and the rest of the sentient space faring galaxy?

We'd probably do our best work in the back, our Legionary isn't that special, providing intel / tactical / genius support would probably help the most.
 
Couple ideas here.

One, worst case scenario, we could theoretically deorbit one of our factories and hit the Dreadnought. It's far enough away, the shockwave shouldn't be too bad, especially if everyone's underneath the Shields we've got set up.


Other idea. Someone mind writing an omake of the one frigate that ran for help?

It's badly damaged, and the only reason it hasn't been lost is because every ship in the Mindoir system had multiple squads of Legionaries onboard. Ship comes out of the Relay in Arcturus Station damn near broken, blaring the emergency signal on all channels. Automated recording about how Mindoir is under assault by what was basically an entire fleet mobilizes 5th fleet to come running.

First idea is in case things go from bad to worse, second idea is in hope that a good enough omake allowed that one frigate to escape and warn others.
 
So... I'm guessing... I'm not actually sure. I mean, it could be a suicide rush assassination, but then landing the ship near us doesn't make sense. It could be an attempted kidnapping, but then how are they going to leave... Hmm, multiple similar fighters... Yeah, I can see how that would work.

So, yeah, we are obviously the target. The question is, how do we respond? We should make it impossible for them to leave, I think. And try to capture some of them.
 
I'd be perfectly fine if upkeep was delayed until next quarter as it was the first time you got to use the unit normally. *Shrugs* ask @UberJJK I guess, he's the one that entered the formula like that.

Only reason upkeep is this quarter, other then it being marginally simpler, is that a quarter is 3 months. A lot of the stuff we produce is going to be finished well within the timespan, as we can see with a good chunk of our ParSec gear being ready right now, so it makes sense for maintenance to start in the same quarter the stuff is produced.

As a game factor it's a pretty clear statement that your military assets may not exceed 14.3 times your annual net profit not including maintenance.

Oh noes! That means we'll only be able to maintain a fleet of ~2800 Lite Laser Pyndas starting next quarter! How terrible! ;)

The rule of thumb was ~50% of possible production IIRC. Your pretty close to the point were the Citadel will stop regulating as long as you produce in good faith.

It may also be going up to a maximum I mentioned at some point. Though the only one I recal was the you don't get profit higher than a few quadrillion credits.

Out of curiosity does that few quadrillion only apply to our Arc Reactors, manufacturing in general, or total profit? Because I can see ParSec becoming quite lucrative in the next couple years.

Also minor problem for using Hydra as long range attack missiles after they've split, which you got at earlier when we were talking about the missiles drive system. I'm pretty sure without a repulsor and arc-reactor that Sagitta just don't have the range/thrust. This works fine in space where you get to use your launcher's high speed, but in air this would be a problem for long range use.

Well it depends upon what you mean my long range. Yeah they'd slow down after exiting the launcher but they are tiny. A modern day anti-material rifle firing one of these has an effective range of 2km. They have a lot higher cross-section (1963.5mm^2 vs 314.16) and are only going ~790m/s.

When you consider that the Hydra is probably going kilometers per second they'll get a fair range.

If you are willing to sell them.

Is there any reason why we wouldn't? I mean all they really are is a miniaturization of exiting Arc Reactor technology and Gen I Arc Reactors already have such a high power density that anything equipped with them is already hitting the limits of how much power they can support.

So I don't see a reason not to start selling them.




Oooh! Update!!

I'll comment on that soon!
 
... Someone dedicated 35 ships in this assault. An assault apparently aimed directly at Paragon Industries' main manufacturing, administrative and research and development center. There's no way this isn't going to result in a war.

And funnily enough, the reputation humanity has of 'having been poked way too often not to get angry at the incessant poking' is going to result in a 'well, what moron did the poking' reaction in the greater galaxy.
 
First off, economics:

I think we should take a look at some point to figure out if there is more profit in selling Arc Reactors cheaper in larger numbers, rather than the obscene price we currently have.


Now, for the battle, Revy is an incredible hacker, but mediocre frontline combatant at best. Lets leave the shooting to the professionals we pay for it and use our giant brain to cause havoc in the enemies networks and defend our own. As I presume our research data is already backed up on hard drives, we can use PIs computer system (which have been upgraded for the AI Licence!) and see how good the other guys are. Also ask Mordin and our other IT experts to help.
 

Would this sound better?

Ah... when it's not a dreadnought; you'd do it when it's a carrier, obviously

It's supposed to be "why this (A), when not that (A), when this (B)", which maybe an overly colloquial phrasing.

Only reason upkeep is this quarter, other then it being marginally simpler, is that a quarter is 3 months. A lot of the stuff we produce is going to be finished well within the timespan, as we can see with a good chunk of our ParSec gear being ready right now, so it makes sense for maintenance to start in the same quarter the stuff is produced.

Okay.

Oh noes! That means we'll only be able to maintain a fleet of ~2800 Lite Laser Pyndas starting next quarter! How terrible! ;)

Willingness to drop upkeep falling, to near negative levels.

Out of curiosity does that few quadrillion only apply to our Arc Reactors, manufacturing in general, or total profit? Because I can see ParSec becoming quite lucrative in the next couple years.

It was based loosely on gross income, because the galaxy could literally not throw more money at you for arc-reactors, well less they wanted to not buy other things they may need. Also limited thoughts on sane units per person numbers and military spending fronts.

Edit: Reading failure, it was for arc-reactors mainly.

Well it depends upon what you mean my long range. Yeah they'd slow down after exiting the launcher but they are tiny. A modern day anti-material rifle firing one of these has an effective range of 2km. They have a lot higher cross-section (1963.5mm^2 vs 314.16) and are only going ~790m/s.

When you consider that the Hydra is probably going kilometers per second they'll get a fair range.

Hmmm... a good point if the shell is going fast to begin with. Long range was the 10-20km stuff were were tossing around. Not up for doing ss drag calculations now, nope!

Is there any reason why we wouldn't?

Mindless paranoia?
 
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Should've taken the QM hint and developed Mk II, but oh well, we can use it as a surprise to break out even more curbstomp when we go after this dead people later.

I support staying back and hacking their systems, getting our IT experts to help some.
 
Wouldn't this have to be at minimum the Collectors.. or a Collector-level ship? To not only breeze through the defensive fleet's fire, and also land in atmo...
 
Wouldn't this have to be at minimum the Collectors.. or a Collector-level ship? To not only breeze through the defensive fleet's fire, and also land in atmo...

Which is about to face an experienced military carrying effective power armour rather than the hardsuits of canon Mass Effect, with appropriate weapons and good support.

It's a dreadnought sized ship. Probably carrying a lot of troops. But it's certainly going to be a difficult slog for them.

Doctor Shepard sees no need for such things. Except possibly as a guest lecturer.

Eh, you don't want Revy to end up being able to call herself dr. mult. Shepard, or Doctor Doctor Doctor Shepard, or Shepard, PhD, MD, ED, EED, etc.?
 
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Kasumi manages to evade you for the time being. She is clever enough to avoid your electronic eyes and be well hidden when the cloak runs out of time.

Intensify Electronic Surveillance! The Panopticon is unstoppable!

"I'm teaching her to fire them! Which may or may not lead to some practical project in the future. Stable complex fine field effects aren't my thing... maybe some one else can do something with it..."

I'm picturing starships firing DES blades and I am smiling.

Biotic!Ships are the way of the future!

"Gaver has such wonderful ideas. I do like him." Indigo chimes in, "Being able to claw things at a distance will be very nice."

"Right looks, like you'll have to lag the off set field based on range if you want full effect... so most just practicing." Gaver says.

Jack nods. Well you did say Jack could use the room to practice if no one else was... and having more positive social interaction is good. Not much you can do about Gaver offering suggestion on how to user her biotics better in his off time either. Still Jack really doesn't need to be any more deadly.

We really need to train up our Biotics. That way we can join in on these little Biotic training sessions.

"Yes Asari are almost worse about it, we love integrating bits of other cultures, borrowing ideas we like. Of course culture is a big deal. Do it wrong and people get offended. Social dynamics, cultural pluralism, all important things to teach children."

Huh. That was a rather nice and informative bit on Asari culture. Not what I was expecting from the romance option.

"Well apparently we sit around and discuss comparative schooling practices." you joke, which gets a small smile, "though I have to confess to actually finding the subject interesting."

"I can't disagree with that." Liara responds as you share amused smiles.

Begun the D'aww Wars have!

The captain of the Dahja, one of the Quarian's secondary food production ships, expresses an interest in the mobile housing; however for the Quarians it would be great if the housing could be towed while deployed. A massive amount of Quarian defense strategy revolves around them all living on ships and using that to run away.

Adding a small mass reduction system and an inertial dampener would make that possible for smaller combined sections at least.

Note to self: Remember to include a proposal for towable mobile houses in the next production update. It could make a good stopgap.


While you are a scientist, you are also an engineer
It's been a while since you've played mechanic as opposed to researcher.

I think @Hoyr is trying to tell us something. Clearly Revy wants to get back to her Engineering roots somehow. We need to come up with some interesting engineering challenges for her.

As most of your particular talented commanders are an Anhur at the moment

Okay this confirms it. We definitely need to hunt for more talented commanders. That and set up an academy for training our own officers since that somehow keeps getting forgotten.

You manage to get though 24 hours of build cycles, before...

"Light wakes detected, 35 signatures," Cortana informs you as she receives an alert from the warships orbiting Mindoir.

You stop trying to figure out how to get any more of the shields working, times up.

Huh. So did Revy just spend 24 hours solid trying to get as many shields up? Because this seems to imply that we skipped sleeping to do so.

@Hoyr how rested is Revy? Because this could be very important to our choices for the upcoming battle.

One assumed dreadnought, six assumed cruisers, twenty-eight frigate escorts, no SA or other friendly IFF signals.

Damn. If they are military grade ships, which I'm guessing they are, then even at cost, so without the standard 20% markup, and assuming everything is on the smaller end then we're talking about a fleet valued at 30.9 trillion credits.

Someone really doesn't like us. Especially given:
Ah... when it's not a dreadnought; when it's a carrier, obviously. Still landing one implies either an expensive vessel or technological ability beyond what most Citadel races have as no one s land-able ships larger than a frigate, it costs to damn much.
means the Carrier is even more expensive.

Who the hell is insane enough to land a dreadnought?

Well a Paragon Industries Dreadnought, or at least one I would design, would be fully capable of planetary landing. Even without mass lightening a 2.5 million ton Dreadnought with 6gs of acceleration would only require a 147,150MN Repulsor which comes in at 300 billion. Drop that down to 1.5gs and the cost goes down to 73.6 billion credits.

So yeah I would totally build a Dreadnought capable of landing. Hell what makes it even easier is that thanks to the way large ships, like Dreadnoughts, are designed it would land on it's engines, since that would keep natural gravity aligned with the ships artificial gravity, so the cost would be included in the ship anyway rather then being a second set of engines.
 
So if possible I want us to see about reverse engineering the Carrier's tech, assuming that by the end of this there is enough of it left to reverse engineer.
 
How long would it take to rig up a building sized field laser hooked up to the plants power grid?

And any way, when did hell did we get jack? Did i miss that update?
 
If going out, priority 1 is 'not getting killed'. If spotted, will become priority 1 target, so sprinting into fortified territory with hostiles coming in behind should give the defenders nice opportunities to blast that train to smithereens. Actually stopping to fight would usually be a bad idea.

Withdrawing Artillery option:
-[ ] Arm 1 Right: (Repulsor Blaster) (Not being able to run out of ammo? Good thing)
-[ ] Arm 1 Left: (Repulsor Blaster)
-[ ] Arm 2 Right: (Omni Tool/Omni Blade) (Because Revy. There is always something that can be fixed/hacked on the fly)
-[ ] Arm 2 Left: (Micro Missile VLS strip)
-[ ] Shoulder 1 Right: (Guardian Angle shield 1)
-[ ] Shoulder 1 Left: (Guardian Angle shield 1)
-[ ] Shoulder 2 Right: (Guardian Angle shield 2)
-[ ] Shoulder 2 Left: (Guardian Angle shield 2)
-[ ] Carried Weapon: (Micro Missile Cannon) (Idea is to be mobile short range artillery who is usually out of line of sight)
-[ ] Armor Mod: (Stealth mod or warp barriers mod)


The idea with double shield is to either have them support each other, or they step in for each other: #1 down? #2 comes online while #1 recharges. #2 goes down? Well, if #1 is ready (or when it is ready), it goes online. Rinse and repeat.

If only one set of Guardian Angle Shields can be equipped, use the two remaining shoulders for Repulsor Blaster turret and Nonlethal Takedown Package, and let them fire while running.

More Dakka option: (the FUN option)
-[ ] Arm 1 Right: (Repulsor Blaster) (Not being able to run out of ammo? Good thing)
-[ ] Arm 1 Left: (Repulsor Blaster)
-[ ] Arm 2 Right: (Omni Tool/Omni Blade) (Because Revy. There is always something that can be fixed/hacked on the fly)
-[ ] Arm 2 Left: (Nonlethal Takedown Package) (Might affect things that other weapons don't, aside from possibly getting answers later.)
-[ ] Shoulder 1 Right: (Guardian Angle shield 1)
-[ ] Shoulder 1 Left: (Guardian Angle shield 1)
-[ ] Shoulder 2 Right: (Repulsor Turret)
-[ ] Shoulder 2 Left: (Repulsor Turret)
-[ ] Carried Weapon: (Electro Laser Cannon)
-[ ] Armor Mod: (Stealth mod or warp barriers mod)


With the Omni Tool option, pulling back and fixing things back behind the lines without taking off the armor (important detail) is a possibly good option. Expect enemies to follow, quite possibly in suicide runs for those behind to have a chance. Teaming up with some of the special character on site might be a good idea? Liara, Gaver and/or Jack sounds like a team? Of course, for maximum overkill just jump in a newly built Tiger, and have the rest of the newly built Tigers filled up with character and security people (Two pepople for each one?). Then use those 20 newly built Tigers as one unit, preferably with Gaver in charge. He should be able to appreciate it AND use it well.

Alternatively, if most of them have already been handed over to the SA, jump into one with the rest of the team, and do the mission Mass Effect style.

Make sure the helmet cams are on. The major mistake Shepard did in the games? Not using helmet cams, and not saving the tapes. It would have given Shepard overwhelming evidence.
 
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Eh, you don't want Revy to end up being able to call herself dr. mult. Shepard, or Doctor Doctor Doctor Shepard, or Shepard, PhD, MD, ED, EED, etc.?
Don't need to attend collage for that anymore than she did for the first doctorate. Just need to write up a thesis on one of the many ways we've revolutionized scientific fields.
 
So... I had this amusing image in my head of chibi Kasumi in a stealth suit scurrying about in a lab facility that should have been safe but got infiltrated.

Ingenious traps plop pies, firecrackers and paint on the invaders. Traps inevitably have little post its on them with things like "I left my granades in the other lab." and "This could have been a claymore if you were a threat."

"Which was one was acid again" is particularily worying.

Invaders, slowed to a crawl and demoralized get intercepted by an actual security team and surrender. This is a surprise because the security team feared they'd be too late to stop a massacre.

Unfortunately I'm low on fucks and blood cells so you have to settle for this sharing of amusing thought in stead of an omake.
 
Don't need to attend collage for that anymore than she did for the first doctorate. Just need to write up a thesis on one of the many ways we've revolutionized scientific fields.

Sure, but still, we haven't actually gone to college. Which is why I find it amusing to think of the reaction of various colleges she might apply to.
 
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