I just noticed that we went off my plan already by investing in freaking warp barriers this turn; now we don't have enough RPs to finish Flawless BB, Multi-core eezo drives and Advanced Xeno by the end of 2174-Q2 like I had planned. I'm gonna need to re-adjust things.
Guys, seriously, can we please stop chasing after random shinies and stick to long-term plans? I'd really, really hate to miss our targets and have the core Cabira techs not researched in time to stop the Skylian Blitz in 2176.
Hmm. Would omakes for RP help? Cutting research on things like Flawless BB would very likely be still required (unless we manage to collectively churn out eight omakes just for research points), but hopefully not as much.
Hmm. Would omakes for RP help? Cutting research on things like Flawless BB would very likely be still required (unless we manage to collectively churn out eight omakes just for research points), but hopefully not as much.
We need to be done with Flawless BB, both to keep high-powered lasers from proliferating and to protect our hardware from being randomly hacked by mysterious strangers. On the other hand, we can delay Advanced Xeno by a quarter and still have the core Cabira techs done pretty much on time; right now I have Blue Box AIs slated for 2175-Q2 development on the off-chance that we can persuade the Council to give us a license, and that gives us a decent amount of leeway in case they don't. If they do, well, we can just delay either Invisible Man or the Mk. II reactor to post-2176.
What we really, really need to do is commit to not harrying off ferret-like to whatever shiny thing we come across. This is exactly why the Salarian Councilor won't let us have an AI license: we're not sticking with a plan, and instead just turning around and doing random crap because we happen to bandwagon on a different vote that turn, even if it screws up our long-term plans.
We need to be done with Flawless BB, both to keep high-powered lasers from proliferating and to protect our hardware from being randomly hacked by mysterious strangers. On the other hand, we can delay Advanced Xeno by a quarter and still have the core Cabira techs done pretty much on time; right now I have Blue Box AIs slated for 2175-Q2 development on the off-chance that we can persuade the Council to give us a license, and that gives us a decent amount of leeway in case they don't. If they do, well, we can just delay either Invisible Man or the Mk. II reactor to post-2176.
What we really, really need to do is commit to not harrying off ferret-like to whatever shiny thing we come across. This is exactly why the Salarian Councilor won't let us have an AI license: we're not sticking with a plan, and instead just turning around and doing random crap because we happen to bandwagon on a different vote that turn, even if it screws up our long-term plans.
@Hoyr, I know that votes aren't being collected for research at this time, but is there particularly a reason why conventional stealth technology a la modern F-22 Raptors/ B-2 Spirits is not on the research tables? Given that it would'be been around almost 200 years at this point in the quest, it would seem to be fairly mature tech that wouldn't take much effort (or RP) to combine with Conrad's The Invisible Man project to get something with 99% of the effectiveness of TIR shielding far faster.
@Hoyr, I know that votes aren't being collected for research at this time, but is there particularly a reason why conventional stealth technology a la modern F-22 Raptors/ B-2 Spirits is not on the research tables? Given that it would'be been around almost 200 years at this point in the quest, it would seem to be fairly mature tech that wouldn't take much effort (or RP) to combine with Conrad's The Invisible Man project to get something with 99% of the effectiveness of TIR shielding far faster.
Conventional stealth is basically radar/lidar scattering paint slapped onto a low radar profile shaped aircraft.
The invisible man stealth takes it one step further by defracting incoming and outgoing radiation, which includes the users emissions, hopefully away from any passive sensor.
Basically it bends both light, radar and heat around the user and away from observers so it becomes a blur or hard to make out shape against the background.
The invisible man stealth takes it one step further by defracting incoming and outgoing radiation, which includes the users emissions, hopefully away from any passive sensor.
Basically it bends both light, radar and heat around the user and away from observers so it becomes a blur or hard to make out shape against the background.
[ ] The invisible man [100/400]: The stealth system that was installed in the prototype the Berkeley students presented at the power armor conference was not good enough to fool Alliance security, but then it was Conrad piloting the thing. While working on your advanced ceramic, you've had some ideas of your own on how to incorporate digital camouflage at a fundamental level. (Make near-invisible versions of your vehicles. Sound, thermal and radar detection will still be issues, but issues exist to be solved!)
I just noticed that we went off my plan already by investing in freaking warp barriers this turn; now we don't have enough RPs to finish Flawless BB, Multi-core eezo drives and Advanced Xeno by the end of 2174-Q2 like I had planned. I'm gonna need to re-adjust things.
Guys, seriously, can we please stop chasing after random shinies and stick to long-term plans? I'd really, really hate to miss our targets and have the core Cabira techs not researched in time to stop the Skylian Blitz in 2176.
Have you factored in that we are now employe more researchers?
Do we need to discuss technologies for this vote? About the option of telling SA what we are planning next.
Thinking about it we really don't. The majority want the Cabira so we will push it.
We still need to research Multi-Core, Stealth and Laser to finish it. Thus will need a lot of points...
Have you factored in that we are now employe more researchers?
Do we need to discuss technologies for this vote? About the option of telling SA what we are planning next.
Thinking about it we really don't. The majority want the Cabira so we will push it.
We still need to research Multi-Core, Stealth and Laser to finish it. Thus will need a lot of points...
Hell, we are going to have so much cash sooner rather than later that we can either outsource less critical research or build plenty of research facilities and hire people for them.
Hell, we are going to have so much cash sooner rather than later that we can either outsource less critical research or build plenty of research facilities and hire people for them.
The problem with our tech is that pretty much everything on the table is either groundbreaking or extreme refinement of existing concepts. Outsourcing won't work, as every project needs our (or in some cases, our research hero's) "touch" and might also be too dangerous to release outside our company. I think there are also some limits on research facilities concerning how fast or how many we can build them. Our planners are probably pushing the absolute limit here on how fast we can expand.
Ah-ha! See, this is why we need to give them training before sending them off into combat situations! So, right now I'm voting we either spend the entire (current eg. 2173-Q4) quarter training them, or send them off on a 1-year contract to guard random colonies until they're up to +3.
I think we should also double our security teams' compensation, maybe add to their training now that we know they'll be potentially subject to attacks by random super-biotics, but that'll have to wait for next quarter's Company Actions.
Speaking of, @Yog@Sylvire We're getting a little premature in talking about Personal Actions and RP Allocation; we need to close out 2173-Q4 before we start planning out those and our Company Actions for 2174-Q1, after all. That said, per the tech document, I'm suggesting that what we need to invest in this upcoming quarter is multi-core eezo drives and Flawless BB:
Multi-core eezo is a huge gain for logistics. It, along with Repulsors, are the two techs that will let us at least attempt to keep up speed-wise with the Reapers, and massively reduce our dependence on Relay tech. It's also something that we need to get finished now, firstly because our Starships factory is going to be complete at the end of 2174-Q1 and we want to spend a lot of 2174-Q2 building our space yacht/mobile lab, and secondly because we want to get started building a fleet of super-fast transport ships.
Flawless BB can be completely finished by 2174-Q3 if we make big investments in it for the next 2 quarters. Besides the somewhat questionable use of keeping key tech like high-powered weapons-grade lasers secret, Flawless BB's real benefit (@Hoyr permitting) is that it should make is much harder to hack our hardware. The rationale behind this BS wireless-hacking-from-a-distance SR4-style hacking is that the red team's omni-tools are essentially doing super-TEMPEST attacks on our hardware; that should be much, much harder if the red team has no idea how our hardware works.
As for Invisible Man, we have some high priority targets we need to hit first: Flawless BB, Multi-core eezo, QE Comms, Advanced Xeno, gigajoule lasers (for mining applications). We have the flex to get to it at the end of the year (2174-Q4, estimated finishing date 2175-Q1), the same time I have the Mk. II suit, Miniturized Energy Weapons, and Superalloys scheduled.
Invisible Man is a part of invisiblity combo - near planets or in atmosphere TIR doesn't work as stealth, after all. As to the other thing: Multi-core system is more revolutionary in terms of warfare - it allows ships to bypass the bottlenecks of Mass Relays everywhere. This is going to make waves. Big, barely controllable ones. It will also cause an exploration rush. We need QEC by that point, lest we (as society) suffer lots of lost colonies. QEC is also less revolutionary (by itself, without combos with TIR and multi-core systems). It won't cause quite that big of a stir. Thus, I want to get it first. It increases the impact of multi-core drives, increases the surprise factor of Cabiras, makes communications untraceable and impossible to intercept by Reapers (due to non-reliance on Mass Relay network). It's worth it.
PI Corporate Colors
[X] Blue on White
The Mordin Solus plan:
[X] Hire him
--[X] Have him help us establish ties with Sur Kesh university. Look into establishing stipends for gifted students there, and maybe exchange programs?
--[X] Work with him and Gaven Dor on potentially establishing contact and research cooperation between Sur Kesh and Krogan Science Council, with PI serving as intermediary / third side, mitigating hostilities
Litinana deal: (Because negotiations are complicated fell free to discuss things with the GM)
Offer
[X] Advanced Research VI
[X] Improved Intelligence Algorithms
For
[X] A Specialist (Temporary Research Hero)
--[X] Specifically one specializing in cross-species biotech or xenobiology
[X] Establishing and/or improving trade with them
--[X] Try to get cultural exchange going to, trade in media
Tell the SA Navy of any of your Tech Plans?
[X] Sure
--[X] Logistics, i.e. working on how long the ships can serve without entering port
--[X] Stealth
[X] Ask them what theywant in terms of qualitative developments. What advantages would they desire most? What is the biggest game changer?
Jelica Eveliina: Company/+4, Biotic Specialist (+1 to Biotic units), Mobility Master (+2 to highly mobile units)
[X] Hire her
--[X] And, if we want them (i.e. they are qualified), and they want it, her spouse too
--[X] As a commando she had biotic training. Question her if she may train Revi.
Should we start employing aliens on a more general level?
[X] Yes
--[X] As a part of galactic community, the more we are integrated with others, the harder it is to get rid of us. One doesn't cut off one's hand, much less one's head, without some serious consequences. Start running this line, that by hiring more aliens we get more integrated with the wide galaxy and thus become more secure, through your PR people and spread it both for the inner and outer consumption
--[X] Legal and Advertisment would profit from it.
--[X] Research department need througout individual screening and aprove by Revi.
Interested?
[X] Majority Control CCI
--[X] Have them start planning the Hyper Modular Fortress City (Ship) Atlantis to be developed on Earth for our eventual expansion there.
----[X] Utilize Williams' experience in designing the defensible settlement; use the project to evaluate him - we need to get a handle on the man and what he's worth
----[X] Carefully arrange some leaks (PI is planning to expand to Earth, but wants to do it in style and is, thus, preparing) to Terra Firma
[X] Slowly start buying into DSB
Do you wish to take any of these jobs? (You have 25 teams and a Tiger)
[X] Guard Human Colonies, 5 million per team (How many teams?)
--[X] 7 teams
[X] Send teams to Anhur for a year, 30 million per team (How many teams?)
--[X] 13 teams
[X] Keep forces at home for training/other jobs (How many)
--[X] 5 teams
The Mordin Solus plan:
[X] Hire him
--[X] Have him help us establish ties with Sur Kesh university. Look into establishing stipends for gifted students there, and maybe exchange programs?
--[X] Work with him and Gaven Dor on potentially establishing contact and research cooperation between Sur Kesh and Krogan Science Council, with PI serving as intermediary / third side, mitigating hostilities
Litinana deal: (Because negotiations are complicated fell free to discuss things with the GM)
Offer
[X] Advanced Research VI
[X] Improved Intelligence Algorithms
For
[X] A Specialist (Temporary Research Hero)
--[X] Specifically one specializing in cross-species biotech or xenobiology
[X] Establishing and/or improving trade with them
--[X] Try to get cultural exchange going to, trade in media
Tell the SA Navy of any of your Tech Plans?
[X] Sure
--[X] Logistics, i.e. working on how long the ships can serve without entering port
--[X] Stealth
[X] Ask them what theywant in terms of qualitative developments. What advantages would they desire most? What is the biggest game changer?
Jelica Eveliina: Company/+4, Biotic Specialist (+1 to Biotic units), Mobility Master (+2 to highly mobile units)
[X] Hire her
--[X] And, if we want them (i.e. they are qualified), and they want it, her spouse too
--[X] As a commando she had biotic training. Question her if she may train Revi.
Should we start employing aliens on a more general level?
[X] Yes
--[X] As a part of galactic community, the more we are integrated with others, the harder it is to get rid of us. One doesn't cut off one's hand, much less one's head, without some serious consequences. Start running this line, that by hiring more aliens we get more integrated with the wide galaxy and thus become more secure, through your PR people and spread it both for the inner and outer consumption
--[X] Legal and Advertisment would profit from it.
--[X] Research department need througout individual screening and aprove by Revi.
Interested?
[X] Majority Control CCI
--[X] Have them start planning the Hyper Modular Fortress City (Ship) Atlantis to be developed on Earth for our eventual expansion there.
----[X] Utilize Williams' experience in designing the defensible settlement; use the project to evaluate him - we need to get a handle on the man and what he's worth
----[X] Carefully arrange some leaks (PI is planning to expand to Earth, but wants to do it in style and is, thus, preparing) to Terra Firma
[X] Slowly start buying into DSB
Do you wish to take any of these jobs? (You have 25 teams and a Tiger)
[X] Guard Human Colonies, 5 million per team (How many teams?)
--[X] 7 teams
[X] Send teams to Anhur for a year, 30 million per team (How many teams?)
--[X] 13 teams
[X] Keep forces at home for training/other jobs (How many)
--[X] 5 teams
I follow your plan mostly. Only two things:
1. Tell SA about the planned QEC as well.
2. Keep all the teams at base for training until they are familar with their new equipment. Or maybe do a monck fight with the Security who had already used them in combat.
So why do you want to sent out ParSec already?
Is there a reason against telling SA about the upcomming QEC?
--[X] Work with him and Gaven Dor on potentially establishing contact and research cooperation between Sur Kesh and Krogan Science Council, with PI serving as intermediary / third side, mitigating hostilities
I have a really bad feeling about trying this now. Maybe later when we've had time to get to know Mordin better and have scouted the political situation better, but not now. This might aggravate the hostilities more than mitigate them, as Gaven Dor is kind of rarity. I would expect the Krogan Science Council consisting more of old krogans, who remember the time of war against the Citadel and the genophage.
We need a better plan to approach this issue than just good intentions. If anybody comes up with something more detailed I might change my mind, but I'm not voting for this as it is now.
I have a really bad feeling about trying this now. Maybe later when we've had time to get to know Mordin better and have scouted the political situation better, but not now. This might aggravate the hostilities more than mitigate them, as Gaven Dor is kind of rarity. I would expect the Krogan Science Council consisting more of old krogan's, who remember the time of war against the Citadel and the genophage.
We need a better plan to approach this issue than just good intentions. If anybody comes up with something more detailed I might change my mind, but I'm not voting for this as it is now.
I would suggest we talk to Gaven (and Mordin) about how we might be able to pull this off before making an actual attempt.
Because we know very little about the current situation from either perspective, which isn't conducive to making good plans for dealing with it.
I would suggest we talk to Gaven (and Mordin) about how we might be able to pull this off before making an actual attempt.
Because we know very little about the current situation from either perspective, which isn't conducive to making good plans for dealing with it.
Yeah, seems like a good idea. And maybe do this later on because as I said, we have known Mordin for only a very short time. It feels kind of strange to do this immediately after hiring him. I would wait at least for one quarter before trying anything, so that we might get a better grip on his character (or the character he presents to Revy, him being a spy and all that).
I mean look at the last update. The only mechanics thing in the whole update that would effect things from the point of view of @Hoyr would be the ParSec contract figures and value figures for CCI and DSB.
Pretty much everything else was flavor text. A lot of flavor text to be sure but then that is basically what most quest updates are after all.
Opps... Errr... lets see transport + ground penetrating scanners + laser cutters + software... Blah lets call it 1 million. If I was a picture inclined person I'd be putting a Doctor Evil pic here.
IMO we should continue training them until they hit their potential +3: more profit and less chance of an embarrassing failure than sending them off to guard colonies for a year. Plus we should be able to give every team a pair of Tigers and a small fleet of drones next quarter, which should massively increase their effectiveness.
+1 is what you'd expect from some one that passed introductory training, both basic and advanced combat schools. The teams will average out to +2 after this quarter regardless. +3 would require a trip or three to badass school.
Ah. I guess that works. I was thinking of the guarding as milk-run stuff that doesn't have a notable risk while Anhur would be a mixture of WWII invasion of German cities and Iraq/Afghanistan anti-insurgent duties.
Considering the changes to pirate activity and the location of the colonies... those spots aren't going to be milk-run any more, close due to tech and stuff. (Lets put it this way your bonuses will come out to ~+17 vs a raiders +4 to +8, so a 92.85% to 98.74% chance in your favor) I could add an actual milk-run option, but would you actually take it? (And would it pay enough?)
What sort of training rate can we expect? Given that we are aiming for the best we can I figure getting them up to +2 would really just be a matter of familiarity with PI methods and tech so 1 training session should be enough for that. Bringing them up to +3 level would be harder. SEAL training takes up to 2.5 years however a good chunk of that is probably for getting fresh recruits up to the +2 level. I figure the 18 months of pre-deployment training is closer to what we'd want. So roughly:
Hire Date -> End of Quarter = Soldier (+1)
Soldier + 1x Training Action = Veteran (+2)
Veteran + 6x Training Actions = Elite (+3)
With anything above that not being acquirable through training but special events where the team performs exceptionally.
Well it depends on the bases skill of the soldier(s). I was going to have them average at plus one because new stuff. But over time they'd get to their normal unpenalized levels of skill. So you were requiting veterans on average (+2) with a few elites (+3) mixed in. I'd expect them to get themselves in order after having the gear for a quarter so they go back to their usual bonus. So call it the n00b penalty (-1), lasts one quarter.
As for training people up... lets see this is what I'm thinking (This is assuming normal methods of training)
Trigger Puller (-1) Random recruit, usual minimum base level
Basic Training (+0) 1 Quarter
Soldier (+1) 1 Quarter
Veteran (+2) 2 Quarters (Or significant engagements)
Elite (+3) 3 Quarters (Or significant engagements) does not have a guarantied pass rate.
Master (+4) 3-4 Quarters (Or significant engagements) very low pass rate
God of War (+5) Special
Pilots will, for the foreseeable future, be human only since fighters and other ships are more valuable, easier to steal, and simply produced in lower numbers.
And your troopers will probably be Asari or human because the Legionary fits them. Unless you wanted to maybe hire Batarians. That said making a non-human legionary disign would not be a major challenge, you just haven't.
The only issue might be keeping track of security. Individual cities would be basically impractical at that level. Probably easier to just say "Earth Security" and divide the number by the number of cities we are in and assume it's distributed uniformly.
So do I. Or do you mean I should make one. Cause I'm not going to do that unless I really have to making what seems like 50+ unique planets sound like a pain.
Except it really won't. The Gen II Arc Reactor does nothing special compared to the Gen I. It quadruples the power and gives us a self-destructive 10x boost mode. That might sound useful but right now we just don't have any tech that could benefit from it. For stuff like the Tiger or Gladius the Gen I is small and light enough to simply add more as power is required.
Yeah but we need that tech to upgrade Revy's arsenal or do i have to point out how badly our last fight went. We really do need to upgrade her arsenal at the very least.
Calling it a grenade is a major disservice. It was closer to a bunker buster. He bought them to blow up buildings. Plan B for him was charge, drop timed bomb, charge, timed bomb, etc.
As some one else quoted me because the last GM choose to and it looked okay than I tried it. Frankly I'm not sure I can give the system a fair hearing every time I roll the dice the dice are all like, "Guys, Guys! Lets Screw with EVERYTHING!"
Seriously I rolled a little in the background of this update. For example the interviews, I rolled negotiation 13d6 (5s and 6s scoring a "hit") with 6s being an extra roll for more hits. I got 4 hit and 5 hits (about average) then I rolled for the Interviewer, the Matriarch got freaking 9 hits! 9! It's a good thing she's not hostile. Basically that translated out to you eloquently spilling out the better part of your motivation and though process, but since that's what you wanted...
@Hoyr, I know that votes aren't being collected for research at this time, but is there particularly a reason why conventional stealth technology a la modern F-22 Raptors/ B-2 Spirits is not on the research tables? Given that it would'be been around almost 200 years at this point in the quest, it would seem to be fairly mature tech that wouldn't take much effort (or RP) to combine with Conrad's The Invisible Man project to get something with 99% of the effectiveness of TIR shielding far faster.
Its done already inside and outside the tech tree. Adv. Materials allows you to make the sort of modern stealth materials and you just have to make a stealth thingy. Also Revy bought the rights to a product that is basically a next get stealth material. Arcane Blur armor. Makes the armored object immune to all forms of active detection that use Violet and higher spectrum (so radar, most Lidar etc). In addition, it makes targeting systems using lower quality passive sensors miss around 20% of the time.
Daddy Shepard's name is kinda like a quantum state, until the QM says what it is it could be anything and as far as I know I've never named him! Nor have any of the past QMs. Does anyone need to know for some reason?
Daddy Shepard's name is kinda like a quantum state, until the QM says what it is it could be anything and as far as I know I've never named him! Nor have any of the past QMs. Does anyone need to know for some reason?
I'm getting the necessary information before I start on an omake in which it'll probably be used.
Also, (more of a general question for the thread) is my recollection that Liara generally wears pants correct? This isn't super important, but would shape some responses.
