Carrnage
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he's also spec op's so he's likely got some training in it.
Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution
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*During Special Operations Training*
Instructor: "Okay. The scenario is as follows; Alliance Intelligence has located a Turian command post with data on their strategic maneuvers across the sector and what we suspect to be invasion plans for Terra Nova as a prelude to an all out war. Your mission is to retrieve this data. This must be done with the utmost secrecy. If the Turians find out it would almost trigger an invasion before we're prepared and likely draw the Asari and Salarians into the fighting. Understood?"
Shepard: "Yes sir!"
*Later*
Instructor: "Shepard! What the hell was that!!?"
Shepard: "Me retrieving the data sir!"
Instructor: "And how exactly was slaughtering your way through the base in anyway stealthy!!!!????"
Shepard: "Sir. I ensured that there were no survivors and erased all digital and forensic evidence of my presence sir."
Instructor: "Son. I know you had a bit of a rough upbringing jumping from ship to ship. But detonating the bases fusion reactor is not in the least bit covert!!!!!!"
My Shepard found that you could easily penetrate any location stealthily by killing everyone and hacking everything. If only you could nuke every base upon leaving like Virmire. /sigh.
You know....this sounds a lot like Saren....
And Saren was The Council's youngest and longest serving Turian Spectre, 24 years as a Spectre is a long time, on top of been considered one of their very best.
All this goes to show that killing everyone then obliterating the place to remove all evidence is not only a perfectly valid solution to covert work but an extreamly successful one.
Hmm... well the first to are better. The last is simpler. There clearly should be some sort of consideration for size of the place. What are the conclusions for the first two again?
Hmm ass for partial updates. I'll give it a shot I'm thinking at least for this first time having it be material for the old update, then new events and status updates, then material for the next quarter. Well see how that goes and consider how to go from there.
The conclusions for all three are that, even going by my 12 guards-per-team proposal which is the lowest of the two estimates (I think you and @UberJJK were assuming 20?), our Mindoir campus has as many or more guards per employee, per square meter, and on an absolute basis than a post 9/11 nuclear power plant, plus the Barracks with the ready-reaction force that I've never heard of a nuclear power plant even considering. I'm assuming we currently qualify for Guards Everywhere, and if not we can hire another 5 teams next quarter and be certain of it.
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Buying more men isn't going to save us from orbital support. We need a fleet for that.
Given that we're the golden goose, especially once we make a ship, the SA should have more fleet assets for us anyway.
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azoicennead
Overly-Affectionate Zombie Squad
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That's why they have power armor.
We don't either; that's what the SA cruiser flotilla is for.
Most companies with private armies are like Disneyland, who does have a private army of guards: they are customer-facing services, and have to deal with tens or hundreds of thousands of customers daily, and so need a high guard to customer ratio to ensure everything remains safe.
Forgothrax
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The whole "we hold the orbitals, now you are our bitches" thing only works if the attackers don't care about collateral damage. Most forces that would attack overtly will go for capture, not kill.
Or ones that don't care about the local environment, as I'm pretty sure a full mass driver bombardment on a dense forest will at least set that area back by a couple of decades/centuries based on how fast the trees grow back.
I wrote up a little spreadsheet covering the three approaches. I think I included everything needed. /crossesfingers
Very true. However we're talking about detecting infiltrations not full on military incursions. In case of an actual attack we'd be able to count on 100% of our guards (although a number of them would have to be woken) vs the small fraction available at any given time for security.
I'm more worried about Benezia deciding its better to remove us and our game changing technology from the equation entirely then I am about someone hiring Thane to kill us.
On that note, why don't we have a hanar trained super-assassin drell bodyguard?
We can even make him a super tuxedo so they can be effective and classy at their job.
On that note, why don't we have a hanar trained super-assassin drell bodyguard?
We can even make him a super tuxedo so they can be effective and classy at their job.
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Ramirez, Shepard, and Saren walk into a bar. No bar left.
Well the real danger of infiltrators is probably them stealing stuff. If an assisan comes after Revy we'll likely notice them just before they kill us, because it's more dramatic that way, and fight a desperate battle with what little biotic's we have learned and any weapons that happen to be lying around.
As for Benezia, I doubt she'd go for that. I'd bet more on her pushing Liara/Shepard or Revy and some other Asari she can use as a spy like Shiala. Even if they do go for a full out assault the odds are we can evade death by scattering into the wilderness, Ala Shanxi, long enough for the Alliance to show up and and rescue us.
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That is so incredibly bad in the most cheesy way possible.
I want one.
The asari aren't stupid enough to risk provoking the SA. They'll win against the SA on their own, no two ways about it, but they'll take tremendous casualties because there will be a war kicked off due to attack and noone is going to help them. And quite possibly everyone else joins in on beating on them.
I dunno, 'obliterated by orbital bombardment' doesn't exactly seem subtle to me, and the SA will be very, very interested in finding out who did it, as would most of Citadel space because they are getting most of the neat toys we make as well after the SA has gone through vetting through things.
Van Ropen
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It's Saren/Shepard!Subtle,
More seriously, it's like that Terminus Frigate that just tried offing us...not stealthy, but still not traceable. If Benezia doesn't have the resources to set up a disguised freighter (rigged to vaporize once the job is done) with a MAC and VI to assist the single suicide pilot, I'll eat my hat.
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We should give one to each of our bodyguards. Also badass sunglasses fully equipped with a heads-up display, mini-camera and data uplink.
It's Saren/Shepard!Subtle,
More seriously, it's like that Terminus Frigate that just tried offing us...not stealthy, but still not traceable. If Benezia doesn't have the resources to set up a disguised freighter (rigged to vaporize once the job is done) with a MAC and VI to assist the single suicide pilot, I'll eat my hat.
If a 700+ year old Assari doesn't have a Scrooge Mcduck money vault, they're doing something wrong.
Agreed. Vote passed and locked.
You know. This is another case where QECs would come in rather handy. Drop a passive sensor drone near the relay and have it record all the ships that enter the sector and their direction of departure.
If any are heading for Mindoir then send us the data on them. Probably throw in automated check-ins every 100ms just in case someone notices it and decides to destroy the drone.
Even the fastest (15LY/Day) ships, outside our Repulsor powered stuff, would take at about 8 hours to reach us so with instantaneous warning from the drone we'd have a full 8 hours of alert before any enemy ships showed up overhead.
Admittedly this does assume that they head straight from the Relay to Mindoir rather then take some odd path that would avoid detection but it's probably the best we can do without FTL sensors.
If any are heading for Mindoir then send us the data on them. Probably throw in automated check-ins every 100ms just in case someone notices it and decides to destroy the drone.
Even the fastest (15LY/Day) ships, outside our Repulsor powered stuff, would take at about 8 hours to reach us so with instantaneous warning from the drone we'd have a full 8 hours of alert before any enemy ships showed up overhead.
Admittedly this does assume that they head straight from the Relay to Mindoir rather then take some odd path that would avoid detection but it's probably the best we can do without FTL sensors.
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We could also try to go for researching the Mass Relays after making that probe.
Hook up a surveilence system to the 'Dark Control Switches' and boom! Real time update of every ship in the system. Reaper or not.