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Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution

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Alanek2002 said:
... Why would we go to the trouble of purchasing the Advanced ME theory outright, but then not put any dice to optical computing?
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Because that's not how the research rules work. You can't allocate dice to a tech that you don't already have the prereqs for. You can use it as an overflow option, but since you only get half of what you put in for overflow options it's better to just wait until next quarter when we'll have 210d10+395 ~= 1506 research points to get it done in a single quarter.

We could throw bonus RP at it, but unless we can squeeze out 8-9 more omakes in the next few days, we won't complete it anyway.

(Edit) Nevermind, answered already. :)
 
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Van Ropen said:
Yeah, otherwise I would be all over that. Still, CASIE is important too - and TheEyes had a point about getting it and the ANI installed in a single surgery.


Excellent. Wasn't looking forward to slowing down
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I'll try to find the quote. I need sleep for my final tomorrow... >.<

The means, if we re-vote, we could possibly use the spare cash we have to start on a small shipyard.

Didn't find the quote when searching for research points from hoyr...

which is a pain. So I don't have confirmation on that. but hey, 1 Am does things to your memory... >.>

I don't have time right now to search through the seven pages of posts... Sleep...
 
Alanek2002 said:
The means, if we re-vote, we could possibly use the spare cash we have to start on a small shipyard.
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Nah, we don't want one for a while yet. Right now our big cash cow is Arc Reactors for the Citadel market (500% profit margin holy sh@!$%!), and that means spreading Factory IIIs around like they're going out of style. We don't have the techs researched to make actual starship sales a worthwhile investment for now.

(Edit) That said, we do need to diversify away from the military market. The non-powered "civilian" armor mentioned in @Slayer Anderson's omake will do for an opener, though now that we're marketing to civilians we'll need to hire a marketing team, and sales teams, and fashion design teams to make the armor pretty enough for people to actually wear (and so we can change fashions every year: planned obsolescence is go!). I'd like to get Hyper-modularity bought in 2174-Q1, because that opens up a market in portable space stations for us to exploit, plus gives us a stopgap measure to help out the Quarians, until we can fix their immune systems (see detailed justification).
 
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You know, the more I think about it, the more I want a security PMC with Paragon Industries to be named Renegade. Bonus points if they do black ops.

Yeah it's pretty cliche, but damn if it doesn't work and sound cool!
 
NegativeHorizon said:
You know, the more I think about it, the more I want a security PMC with Paragon Industries to be named Renegade. Bonus points if they do black ops.

Yeah it's pretty cliche, but damn if it doesn't work and sound cool!
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It's kinda why I wanted one named Paragade. Act nice, act professional, kick the asses of fools and leave the names rotting in the dust.
 
NegativeHorizon said:
You know, the more I think about it, the more I want a security PMC with Paragon Industries to be named Renegade. Bonus points if they do black ops.

Yeah it's pretty cliche, but damn if it doesn't work and sound cool!
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This is quoting you, but is really directed at all the people who want to reference Renegade with our stuff.
I understand what you're trying to do. I think it's even kinda clever, how we'd have the peaceful Paragon Industries and militant Renegade Security (or whatever).
I also think it's a name with terrible connotations that Revy wouldn't consider in-character.
Renegades are people who have deserted or betrayed an organization, country, or set of principles. We don't want renegades, we don't want to be renegades. That's anti-hero territory, and we've stuck to hero territory.

Ramble said:
It's kinda why I wanted one named Paragade. Act nice, act professional, kick the asses of fools and leave the names rotting in the dust.
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Except Paragade is a bad portmanteau that has no reason to be considered in-character and is an awkward and forced reference out-of-character.
 
azoicennead said:
Except Paragade is a bad portmanteau that has no reason to be considered in-character and is an awkward and forced reference out-of-character.
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Agreed. I like the Shadowrun ref better (Knight Errant Security), but really I want to evoke the Roman nomenclature that PI uses for their military products. I want to remind people that when they call on Revy's security forces, they are asking for and should expect well-trained Legionary units, backed by close air support and transported by invisible super-Frigates to appear from nowhere and descend from the heavens on their enemies. So I'm thinking something like:

Paragon Auxilia Security Services (PASS)
 
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TheEyes said:
Agreed. I like the Shadowrun ref better (Knight Errant Security), but really I want to evoke the Roman nomenclature that PI uses for their military products. I want to remind people that when they call on Revy's security forces, they are asking for and should expect well-trained Legionary units, backed by close air support and transported by invisible super-Frigates to appear from nowhere and descend from the heavens on their enemies. So I'm thinking something like:

Paragon Auxilia Security Services (PASS)
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How about another stealth SR reference - Aquila Security.
 
So, who here remembers their differential equations? I am fairly sure that the system I cooked up is unresolvable analytically, but if anyone wants to make a stab at it, please do. I am talking about my paper, obviously. I am currently trying to resolve the "repulsive forces generated by PME fields" issue (section 3.2.2.3). I think I have the right idea (and it's a neat one), but the system of differential equations is giving me a bit of a pause, really. Maple doesn't want to solve it, and analytically I am also having trouble doing it. If no one can solve it by Saturday, I'll write a program to calculate the system numerically and plot the movement graphs, and add it to the paper.

Oh, and I added velocity transformation formula for ME field transitions into section 3.1.2. I would like people to check it, if no one minds. I think it works.

I'll do edits to the paper in accordance to the comments I receive and received on Saturday / Sunday. I do read those comments, I just don't really have time to do edits at the moment.
 
azoicennead said:
This is quoting you, but is really directed at all the people who want to reference Renegade with our stuff.
I understand what you're trying to do. I think it's even kinda clever, how we'd have the peaceful Paragon Industries and militant Renegade Security (or whatever).
I also think it's a name with terrible connotations that Revy wouldn't consider in-character.
Renegades are people who have deserted or betrayed an organization, country, or set of principles. We don't want renegades, we don't want to be renegades. That's anti-hero territory, and we've stuck to hero territory.
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Ehh no one needs to hear about Renegade. Like I said black ops.

Not to mention, good natured or not, Revy's got all the wit and sense of humor as Tony Stark did (not to mention still being a teenager), so I could see her naming it like that out amusements sake if nothing else.

Then again, I'm not to sure how serious I meant it. Hell maybe it does work better for a splinter faction of the company. (Although I doubt she would let it get to that.)
 
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NegativeHorizon said:
Ehh no one needs to hear about Renegade. Like I said black ops.

Not to mention, good natured or not, Revy's got all the wit and sense of humor as Tony Stark did (not to mention still being a teenager), so I could see her naming it like that out amusements sake if nothing else.

Then again, I'm not to sure how serious I meant it.
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If nobody hears about it, you never give it a name meant to indicate its purpose. Call it Paperclip or something.
Renegade just doesn't have any positive connotations we want to use.
It's also not witty in character. Renegade has no special meaning for Revy. It's just a word. Parity (Para[gon Secur]ity), or something like that, maybe.
 
Right, since it seems this new plan for more research points is gaining favor, I suggest we add one write-in to the plan.

[] Write-in: Make new Mk 1.5 armor with best tech available for your personal use and update it while time goes on until you get better armor.

I would have put that in if the votes would have left Mk 2 out in original vote, so since we are changing, it seems fair to give the option to do this.

It's not really that bad idea either considering that:

a) someone did try to kill us so protection is good idea
b) while I see that there is plans to continue Mk 2 at Q4, I know the population here. The paranoid protection of our technology which drives people to research blackboxing and other security tech and blissfully ignoring anything else, is going to take over very soon.
 
Sylvire said:
[] Write-in: Make new Mk 1.5 armor with best tech available for your personal use and update it while time goes on until you get better armor.
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Don't we do that anyways? Pretty sure Revy mentioned her suit being superior to her guards at one point because she keeps it cutting edge.

Anyways, obviously no problem doing it if that isn't already the case.
 
Hoyr said:
Also IIRC the basic neural interface you guys made is on the market yes? You made a game for it or something? I need to go hunt down that list of techs and their release status...
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One of our actions from 2173-Q1 was:
Design a Game System to go with the Neural Interface
- Play Test with family and employees.
-- Include a chainsaw katana robot.

So, we're about three months later at this point, and the programming guys are probably just finishing up the code side, meaning that if we want to get around to actually selling this in 2173 we need to 1) hire a design team to clean up the art direction a little, and 2) create a marketing and sales division to market the game and get it into stores. Civilian sales are very different from the government sales we've been doing so far, and though there's more upside potential with civilian sales, there's a lot more overhead and complexity to go with that.

Sylvire said:
[] Write-in: Make new Mk 1.5 armor with best tech available for your personal use and update it while time goes on until you get better armor.
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We actually do that as we go. As of 2172-Q4 we were on the Mark 1.75b, having added (I presume) a ceramic armor overlay and replaced the jetpack with repulsors; I imagine we've upped that to Mark 1.8-1.9 when we added the advanced fire control VI this quarter.
 
TheEyes said:
We actually do that as we go. As of 2172-Q4 we were on the Mark 1.75b, having added (I presume) a ceramic armor overlay and replaced the jetpack with repulsors; I imagine we've upped that to Mark 1.8-1.9 when we added the advanced fire control VI this quarter.
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And there is always the "Stuff more eezo inside than what would be economical in mass-production models".

Also, still supporting revote.
 
I was mostly pointing the fact that thanks to Advanced alloys, we have to build new one because we can't update armor panels anymore. That's an expense of about 300-400K.

Oh, that game idea, almost forget it. Yeah, we have to get that finished also. Wasn't it 3D printed figurines using, futuristic smashbros type thing?
 
Yog said:
So, who here remembers their differential equations?
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Ugh, hate hate hate those.

Um, hate to bum on your idea here @Yog, which I don't think is mentioned here often enough but that is some amazing work, but if the idea is that shots are deflected due to the incoming shot emitting black body radiation, wouldn't cryo ammo then bypass kinetic barriers entirely? What ever happened to that idea of using PME fields to lower the speed of light to the point that incoming fire exceeds the speed limit?
 
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TheEyes said:
Ugh, hate hate hate those.

Um, hate to bum on your idea here @Yog, but if the idea is that shots are deflected due to the incoming shot emitting black body radiation, wouldn't cryo ammo then bypass kinetic barriers entirely? What ever happened to that idea of using PME fields to lower the speed of light to the point that incoming fire exceeds the speed limit?
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I am considering several possible mechanisms, as well as their combinations. This is just one of them. And considering cryo ammo... Well, for starters, it's space magic of the highest order. I do not even want to think of how it works, really. But, ok, PMEs would be less effective against those, yes.

The appeal of radiation pressure deflection mechanism is that it would take a far lower K (100s, maybe even 10s instead of 10^10 or such) to deflect something - after all, the pressure scales with K^5.5.
 
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