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Firstly we need to heal akane
SayakaQuest Thread 10: Glory To The Death
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Dirtnap
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Her gem's intact, she'll keep.
healing her now is just delaying the attack on the doll.
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Well yes, but that means attack without our most strong companion
Um...
Unless this was some sort of a "red herring" "hint" Moid said to mess with or mock us...
EDIT: Please note this is not me endorsing or disapproving any plans involving the possibly or possibly not existing gear. Just merely pointing out something that may have been overlooked from earlier in the thread.
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mothematics
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There is so much wrong with what's going on that I don't even know where to start.
This thread can't fucking grasp that that is in fact the point. If, on the final fight, something is getting tossed in our faces? And us ignoring it means we're missing the point, and the Witch doesn't need to manifest the Doll?
That is the entire fucking point so how about we, you know, go after the fucking Doll. If it's there, it's because we're supposed to fight it.
I've done some thinking, and I've reached a conclusion, so let me break this down for each and everyone here.
Walpurgisnacht is, as we can see in cannon, a parade; or at the very least, it has themes of one - but it's also not the most important point right now. What it is, is a tie in to my actual point which I'll just lay out plain: this is a giant show.
We are on a stage, with an audience, and, more importantly a - or the - star of the show.
Witches are tragic. Walpurisnacht is a Witch, and therefore tragic.
The show is a tragedy, and the main character of a tragedy dies. And in any case, the spotlight is on it so it's important, core, to the story regardless.
The Doll - which we need to fucking hit since it wouldn't be there if it wasn't supposed to be hit - is the star of the show.
Kill the doll. End the fucking show.
And stop with the bloody gear, ye Gods. That's Walpurgisnacht's main body.
[X] Let Kyoko lead. Attack the doll. "Let's just kill this thing."
Everything that's probably wrong with my vote aside, the point is to just get the bloody doll.
This thread can't fucking grasp that that is in fact the point. If, on the final fight, something is getting tossed in our faces? And us ignoring it means we're missing the point, and the Witch doesn't need to manifest the Doll?
That is the entire fucking point so how about we, you know, go after the fucking Doll. If it's there, it's because we're supposed to fight it.
I've done some thinking, and I've reached a conclusion, so let me break this down for each and everyone here.
Walpurgisnacht is, as we can see in cannon, a parade; or at the very least, it has themes of one - but it's also not the most important point right now. What it is, is a tie in to my actual point which I'll just lay out plain: this is a giant show.
We are on a stage, with an audience, and, more importantly a - or the - star of the show.
Witches are tragic. Walpurisnacht is a Witch, and therefore tragic.
The show is a tragedy, and the main character of a tragedy dies. And in any case, the spotlight is on it so it's important, core, to the story regardless.
The Doll - which we need to fucking hit since it wouldn't be there if it wasn't supposed to be hit - is the star of the show.
Kill the doll. End the fucking show.
And stop with the bloody gear, ye Gods. That's Walpurgisnacht's main body.
[X] Let Kyoko lead. Attack the doll. "Let's just kill this thing."
Everything that's probably wrong with my vote aside, the point is to just get the bloody doll.
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[X] Heal Akane
[X] Let Kyoko lead. Attack the doll. "Let's just kill this thing."
-[X] If we open a hole large enough, go inside with Akane and unleash hell
[X] Let Kyoko lead. Attack the doll. "Let's just kill this thing."
-[X] If we open a hole large enough, go inside with Akane and unleash hell
mothematics
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If Akane can still fight (which is in question at the minute), I say we focus on getting through this as is. Every bit counts and if we can avoid healing we should.
It's just a question of can we, then?
It's just a question of can we, then?
Reposting for convenience. Included the last update.
(Again: Removed Sayaka's Rolls due to 20 image limit per post. All rolls shown are from Walpurgis or its hand)
(Again: Removed Sayaka's Rolls due to 20 image limit per post. All rolls shown are from Walpurgis or its hand)
[X] Return the curtsy
You stare at it, before tentatively, you curtsy.
The witch looks back up, and chuckles a little, before it stands upright before you. Despite its colossal size, it moves with the fluidity of a normal person.
[X] All out attack
And as soon as you're done, you raise your sword.
[X] Anything and everything we've got. Wave rends, rending blades, offensive blade blocks, combo attacks with the others if we get a chance to.
You throw a waverend at it...but then the entire city is rocked.
The doll leaps upwards several hundred feet into the sky as the curtains fold into the ground, her dress fluttering among the winds as the sun shines from above, before a pair of metal arms throw themselves upwards. She grabs them, whips them out, and laughs as they unfold and transform into a pair of large blades.
[X] Try aiming for it's joints if we can.
You watch in silent horror...before it comes down as quickly as it can and stabs its two swords into the ground. The city is rocked again as the entire team scatters at the toss, and you find yourself thrown into the air by the sudden force before the Doll follows up with a punch.
You raise your shield on instinct only to be thrown across several golden buildings and into a wall at high speed. You scream in surprise on impact. Even with your pain resistance, that hurt.
[x] Extract ourselves from the building and rush back towards the stage. Heal minor damage along the way.
-[x] Scope out what the audience is doing while Sayaka is running back in.
You cough as debris cascades down you...before you see something dashing forwards. Your eyes widen on seeing the Doll gunning straight for you.
[x] Full turtle — upgrade to heavy shield (and sword), add helmet.
You upgrade your shield, enlarge your sword, and get ready for a nasty hit. And just as you do, an enormous sword punches the tip through your greatshield, past your sternum and out your back, and the force slams you back into the wall.
You scream in surprise at the force, and the tip slowly slides forward, inching closer and closer to your soul gem as it cuts deeper into your body. Your scream of surprise turns to that of rage as the Doll presses it in, seemingly surprised by your resilience.
[x] Homura
'HOMURA! TIMESTOP!'
'Already tried.' She says, before a rocket bounces off of the back of the Doll's head and detonates. The head's rocked forwards, with smoke cascading off of it, before it pulls the sword, and you, out of the wall. You're hanging off the end of the blade, holding onto your shield as she casually plants the sword you're impaled on into the ground. You're stuck with a giant blade in your stomach, just inches from your soul gem and straight through your greatshield
'We're standing on the witch. Timestop's useless unless I'm airborne." She says, before she does a light jump. Suddenly, five different explosions rock the Doll, and you see Homura appearing with a single block of C4. "Thankfully, I can jump."
Two explosions rip apart the sword, sending you tumbling down with a blade still embedded. You slams against the golden surface, before you try to scramble back to your feet. Even then, this blade is heavy.
You aren't gonna get it out on your own.
[x] Move to intercept attacks on other team members.
You cough as soon as Walpurgis turns to face Homura. She quickly slices a building in two, as soon as she sees Homura standing on top of it, before the girl jumps and vanishes into thin air.
It's really hard to react because you're not psychic. If only you made that wish instead.
Well, that, and you're partially impaled. You try to position yourself so that the sword's weight will just tear itself out of the side of your body. That would probably work.
[x] To others: If you're going for a big attack, try to use me as a shield so you can focus on offense.
'Guys. Let. Me. Tank.'
'Sayaka!' You wince at Kyouko's voice. 'Yeah , you already kinda fucking did! Since you got fucking megapunched across the city! You okay?!'
Just as she says that, you see Homura jumping back, before Akane slams into the ground beside you. "Yo." She says. "The other Tokyo girls are gonna hit Walpurgis." She tears the blade out of your body. "You alright?"
"Never better." You cough as you look over. "Th-thanks."
'Fine.' You say. 'I'm fine. I'm okay.'
'She got a hole punched in her.' Homura deadpans.
'What?!'
[OPTION SELECT][] Plan. (???)
[] Contingency. (???)
[] Fuck that. Just do something. (???)
[x]Boost up with Akane, have Homura grab both of you, and attack it from timestop.
You grab Akane and leap into the air. She blinks twice, before you turn. 'Homura!'
The world freezes just as the Doll turns her head to look at you. "Somehow...I don't believe that whatever you have planned will work." Homura says.
As she does, you heal over the wound in your stomach and your own arm.
[x] Use magical platforms to prolong the timestop by leaping off of them.
You keep boosting upwards to keep gravity from taking hold.
[x] Wave rends and fire fists from multiple directions. Aim for the arms.
"Akane!" You shout. "Firefists."
She raises her fists and begins to punch as much as she can while you spam Wave Rends.
[x] Exit timestop, and attack it again to distract it from Tokyo's assault, if necessary.
You let go of Homura with Akane following suit. And with that, time resumes. A series of wave rends slam into the Doll, and the fists result in a series of enormous, fiery explosions. The team stares as blue and orange smoke rise from the impact site, before you see Yuri firing at it with her cannon.
The ball hurls harmlessly into the cloud, before coming out the other side, wrapped in smoke.
Things are eerily quiet.
[OPTION SELECT][] Attack the smoke.
[] Wait.
[] Prepare to defend.
[x] Prepare to Dodge
You hold your greatshield close and swallow hard as you stare at the smoke.
And then a sword comes crashing through. Your eyes widen as you move as soon as the blade comes crashing down, with your greatshield grinding against the sword. Sparks go flying as the blade hits the golden ground, before the rest of the Doll flies out of the smoke. Her arms are damaged slightly, and you can see several fingers missing on her left hand, before she rushes forward and grabs her discarded sword.
And it's right then and there that you see something else from inside the smoke. There's a flash of red, then the sound of shifting chains...before a gigantic spear emerges and segments itself. On the head of the spear is Kyouko, and she presses a Grief Seed to her gem as the thing passes by. The Doll deflects the head of the spear and slices the head of the spear off of the rest of the chain.
Quickly, Kyouko throws another spear down and creates another gigantic chain, and spends another cleanse.
[OPTION SELECT]
[X] Attack with wave rends; main aim of the attack is to try and distract the witch from Kyouko, giving her an opening to strike.
-[X] Be prepared to dodge any counterattacks, use defensive boosts to help.
You send a wave rend over towards the Doll.
And it immediately glances off of a flash of steel and a giant sword. The Doll casually brings a blade around, just in time to deflect a deathly strike from Kyouko's gigantic spear. There's a loud clang as you see your girlfriend glance off, before the Doll brings both of her blades down hard.
You move your greatshield and start to move, before there's a loud crash. You see your shield arm hitting the ground as the force sends both you and your shield slamming into the ground. You let out a loud groan...before there's a tingling of steel and a flash of metal. You see a metal hand flying through the air, followed by a spray of molten gold.
The Doll stumbles after the hit, and you see Kyouko riding her spear, before she impales the severed hand, just to add insult to injury.
[OPTION SELECT]
[x] Take out the hand- slice it apart with wave rends.
You send a wave rend over to the hand, but it just rolls out of the way before flinging itself into the air. You send another wave rend, barely scratching it before you see Kagura rushing over with her scythe raised.
She slashes at the hand before it flicks her into the ground face-first, before it balls itself into a fist, slams into the ground next to several of the other Tokyo girls, and rolls itself wildly. Golden pieces of the area go flying, and immediately a part of your team is now completely obscured by an enormous golden cloud.
In the distance, you see the arena turning so that the audience can keep watching the action.
[x] Go for the doll- fire explosive swords at its open chest, detonate any as soon as they get inside
The Doll is about a mile away...but that shouldn't be too much of a struggle. You start charging over, sword in one hand and shield in the other as the gigantic hands of Walpurgisnacht start linking themselves together. They begin to form a full shotel, in exactly the same way that they made the sword, as the Doll splits herself in two.
Kyouko freezes on top of her spear as she stares at the top half of the Doll, before she dislodges herself and boosts backwards. The tip of her spear drags across the front of the Doll's face, leaving a long scratch from the chin to the forehead, before the halves meet once again.
The Doll raises her stump hand as she shoves herself away from the wall, just in time for the new weapon to jam itself into her open wrist. She cackles as soon as it's in, before she widens her stance and prepares to strike again.
[OPTION SELECT]
[X]Talk to Kyouko. Coordinate.
'Hey! Kyouko!' You shout.
'Kinda busy here!' She mutters just before she haphazardly dodges a slash of the giant hooked blade. It glances off of the side of her giant spear, before she steadies herself. 'Giant witch doll is giant and bitchy!'
'Well, maybe you can bring it here?! I can tank!'
'I'm doing fine right here!' She says back, before she brings the head of the spear towards the face of the Doll. The scarred face smashes against its side, before you see Kyouko trying to wrap the chains around the skyscraper-sized Doll.
[X] Attack the hand...
-[X] With a rending blade.
You bring your sword back, cover it with an aura of blue energy, and shove forwards towards the debris cloud that the hand is stuck in.
You rush towards the giant hand among the smoke and dust, and you swing your sword inside the cloud. You hear a shriek before a scythe comes crashing down through the smoke, with you barely dodging it as it cracks open the golden ground.
The combination dissipates the smoke, revealing you, Ako, Yuri and Kagura in the middle of a crater, with the hand nowhere to be seen.
"Where'd it go?!" Kagura looks around nervously.
[OPTION SELECT]
[X] Look up.
You look up, and you see the hand, outstretched, fingers clenching into themselves before they form a fist.
[X] Dodge it if it tries to fall on you.
You get ready to dodge.
You swiftly move out of the way, just in time to see the hand squirming in a crater. You smirk a bit before you pull out your sword and prepare to strike.
[X] Attack it.
A scythe impales the hand as it squirms, before your rending blade finishes the job. There's very little resistance as your blade slices cleanly through the hand. You tumble forwards afterwards, before you let your momentum slide you across the ground and to a stop. The hand twitches on the ground in two halves, each larger than you, before they start melting back into the city.
In the distance, the Doll stops laughing, before it starts to scream in agony. It stumbles, just in time to let Kyouko slap the broad side of her polearm across the Doll's face.
'Alright, I got nineteen cleanses left!' Kyouko shouts. 'That's like, a few more fucking attempts!'
You see Kagura frowning. "Akane's running low on seeds."
[OPTION SELECT]
[x] Where's Homura?
'Where's Homura?!' You shout.
'Here.' She says quickly. 'Watching from the sidelines. I'm out of ammunition.'
'What?! How?!'
'Shooting hands on my side of the city.' She says quickly. 'That means just a few less weapons for the Doll here. Right now, though, I'm here for evacuation.'
[x] Coordinate with Tokyo.
You turn to them. "Okay! Get to the doll!" You shout.
"Huh!?" They all look at you, utterly confused.
"Take out the legs! If she's not mobile, maybe we can finish her!"
[x] Get to the to doll.
[x] Using Kyoko and Akane as a distraction...
You start dashing.
The Doll swings a blade over to Kyouko and Akane, and as soon as she does, things freeze. The head of Kyouko's spear is detached again...and you see the handless arm of the Doll slamming into your girlfriend's side. Her arm is crushed by the force, with the metal armor over it twisted into a grotesque shape, before she's sent spiraling into a golden hand and slammed into the ground as hard as she can.
Akane leaps up, another giant fist ready, before she slams it against the Doll's torso. There's a spray of flames, and the side of the Doll is scorched by the punch, but it doesn't stop her from kicking Akane across the ground, sending her skipping down the street, right past you.
Your eyes widen, before you turn back. You raise your shield and sword, and start dashing towards the Doll.
[x] Attack the legs with Tokyo and a rending blade.
You rush towards the legs, sword in hand, before the entire city rocks. The Doll leaps further into the sky, her sword raised, her face cracked and the side of her torso scorched, as she prepares to bring the blade down on you. The Tokyo girls rush over to your side as quickly as they can, and they all stare up at the Doll above.
[OPTION SELECT]
[x] EVERYONE SCATTER.
"Scatter!" You scream, and everyone dashes away.
And just as you say that, you raise your greatshield, before there's a loud clang as the sword deflects you slightly. The entire city is brought down by the hit, the impact bringing the entirety of the Golden City to a steep angle. You're flung into a building, and slow yourself down by dragging your shield into the ground.
In the distance, you see the Doll standing upright, watching you from among a cloud of golden dust.
[x] Get to Koko. Heal her if you can.
You start moving as soon as you can. As the doll stands, there's a barrage of attacks as shadows slash across its surface, weapons clash against its shins, and the Tokyo girls try making a distraction.
Quickly, you make your way to where Kyouko is, stuck underneath a hand. 'Kyouko!' You shout.
She turns towards you. "Sayaka!?"
You slice the mechanical hand at the wrist with little effort, before she presses up and sends the entire thing flipping backwards. "You alright?"
"I think have a few cracked ribs." She mutters. "It's nothing. I'm fine." She turns, before she winces as her broken arm swings helplessly. "...Okay maybe not."
Quickly, you heal her arm and torso and look over to where the Doll is. You watch as she cackles and laughs among the Tokyo girls, before she raises her blade and spins. Several of the girls are shredded by the Doll, and a huge cloud of golden dust floods the city as several buildings are mulched by the blade.
[OPTION SELECT]
[x] Try, with Kyouko, to cut he other doll's arm. Use waverends and rending blade when you get close enough to the doll
[x] Tokyo search for the central gear and destroy remaning hands. Yuri team up with Akane
[x] Try to sneak Akane behind the doll with Yuri's powers
-[x] If they are successful, all-on pincer attack
[x] Ask Homura for intel and to be prepared for an emergency evac.
"Well, let's find out." You crack your knuckles. "Go with Yuri. Have her sneak you behind the doll. As for the rest of the team, have them destroy some of the other hands."
"The city's hands?"
"Yeah. Those. I'm gonna help out my girlfriend."
She shrugs and nods, before she does a soaring leap away. You drag your sword across the ground, before you do a soaring leap into the air. Kyouko flies past your vision with her spear, before you send her a quick message. 'Hey!'
The entire thing whips around, with Kyouko still riding the head, before you land right next to her. "Sayaka!"
"Hey, bestgirl!" You give her a big, stupid grin before you both start charging towards the Doll. You see Akane running behind the Doll, keeping her footsteps silent as it starts to move towards you and Kyouko...then it whips around. It notices Akane on the ground and switches the grip on its sword. The grin almost seems to widen, before it does a vicious upwards slash. Akane is sliced in half from hip to shoulder, while Yuri is thrown aside by the sudden rush of air.
But the distraction's enough. 'Homura! Evac!'
'On it.' Akane vanishes as the Doll's split-second gives you a chance to attack.
Kyouko impales the back of the Doll with her spear, before she violently rams it into the ground. The doll presses back up, struggling against the spear as you do a soaring leap off of the head of Kyouko's spear.
You slash several times, but each and every time, the doll's arms swing just enough to avoid the hits. You hit the ground instead, just in time to see the torso split open again. Kyouko 's thrown off of the spear as the Doll re-positions itself and throws the spear across the city. The weapon hits the wall as though it were an enormous limp rope, destroying pieces of golden paneling.
The Doll promptly fixes itself and claps, as though it were impressed.
[OPTION SELECT]
[] ???
Um, I don't think leaping straight into the maw chest cavity of something this strong is a good idea. I mean, yes, it gives us access to some of the "squishier" parts of the doll, but it also gives the doll pretty much unhindered access to hurt us. (If Skadi is anything to go by, the inside of a witch's body is NOT safe) Given the disparity in strength between WN and us, this is a trade off that will very likely be strongly in favor of WN.
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Well since Akane is "is sliced in half from hip to shoulder", I think she won´t be able to fight without healing her first.
Maybe you are right, but we can also just throw inside her as a many giant explosive swords as we can produce and get the hell out of there before detonation or use Akane´s fistfights in the hole.
Maybe you are right, but we can also just throw inside her as a many giant explosive swords as we can produce and get the hell out of there before detonation or use Akane´s fistfights in the hole.
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Ok, something I noticed is that merely ripping parts away from the doll doesn't have lasting impact as it can take itself apart and put itself back together again pretty much on will.
HOWEVER, while separated, the smaller parts are weaker (as indicated by the reduced bonuses), making them easier to destroy. (Note the hand alone only had a +40 bonus, and the doll minus an arm had (and STILL has) "only" a +100 bonus, down from +120 of the doll when whole) Destroying a doll part seems to do lasting damage, and does not seem to regenerate.
So, dismantle and destroy piece by piece?
HOWEVER, while separated, the smaller parts are weaker (as indicated by the reduced bonuses), making them easier to destroy. (Note the hand alone only had a +40 bonus, and the doll minus an arm had (and STILL has) "only" a +100 bonus, down from +120 of the doll when whole) Destroying a doll part seems to do lasting damage, and does not seem to regenerate.
So, dismantle and destroy piece by piece?
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I don't think we have enough seeds left for that.
Since attacking the head, open chest, or any important-looking part of the doll with a +100 modifier is like jumping straight into an industrial-scale blender, then yes.
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We clearly have enough (as a group) to do whatever it is we need to do, or else Moid would of killed us by now (he has said that he will just end this life if we get to an unwinnable state).
Might be worth finding out how many seeds the others have. IIRC, Kyoko had like 19 seeds not that many updates ago.
That said, I don't think there is going to be a "shortcut" or "easily abusable" weakpoint (weakpoints, maybe, but not easily abusable ones) for this fight. This is Walpurgis Fucking Night! Our options are painful, difficult way(s), and the more painful, more difficult way(s)...
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So try to dismeber the doll, sounds good
Muramasa
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Kyouko had 19 cleanses. Not seeds.
Also yeah, gear is over thinking it again. Ugh.
1. Moid has said that if we got in a pretty much unwinnable state at some point, he will kill us at that point rather than forcing us to flounder about in under the illusion of us still having a chance.
2. He has also stated that abusing lives for "information farming" WILL be punished. I don't know if that would just mean a penalty that persists to the next life or possibly not even honoring the remaining lives and permanantly bad ending the quest right there if it was painfully obvious what we were doing, but I would rather not find out...
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DON'T SCARY
Hope is the road to disappointment....
How lewd.
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I was just trying to get her Impaled with Extreme Prejudice
No second intetions here
No second intetions here
EtchedSteel
*mumble mumble*
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[X] Let Kyoko lead. Attack the doll. "Let's just kill this thing."
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How lewd.
I was just trying to get her Impaled with Extreme Prejudice
No second intetions here
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I´m a little worried about thisLet Kyoko lead. Attack the doll. "Let's just kill this thing." vote, we need to elaborate a little more.
And we should really heal Akane, we need all our DPS
[X] Heal Akane
[X] Let Kyoko lead. Attack the doll. "Let's just kill this thing."
-[X] Focus on the limbs
And we should really heal Akane, we need all our DPS
[X] Heal Akane
[X] Let Kyoko lead. Attack the doll. "Let's just kill this thing."
-[X] Focus on the limbs
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Unless you want us to suddenly start a tutoring session in calculus with Walpurgis Night (lim being short for limit in conventional math notation), I think you meant limbs.