@inverted_helix As I recall, we can (and did last turn) put two more greens in the restaurant action (requires 2 vets as I recall).
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@inverted_helix As I recall, we can (and did last turn) put two more greens in the restaurant action (requires 2 vets as I recall).
Unitveras
"Return to nothingness!"
- Location
- Tatsumiyajima
Though is there any reason to do it again?
If so, do you have a sort of outline for this train of thought?
Why waste vets who are more valuable elsewhere on a job that can be done in equal effectiveness by a green?
Putting as many greens on the jobs as possible without effecting income is standard practice.
Unitveras
"Return to nothingness!"
- Location
- Tatsumiyajima
Thank you.
Though do there happen to be any other things needing working on and/or towards?
Typically hunting is the alternative, as Vets are both more productive and less vulnerable to danger.
This turn we are already diverting as many vets from hunting as possible to support Diplomacy actions (technically greens can do this too, but usually vets are more effective), training (that only vets can do), and of course hunting youma in Tokyo which only vets/elites can do (and even then vets can only do it because they are supported by Serena's aura).
Pretty much almost anything a green can do a vet can do at least as well if not better. There are a few exceptions, but not many. Jobs are the most common ones for being equal between a green and vet, which is why "as many greens on jobs" is the traditional starting point for optimizations.
I'm working on an optimized version of Kinematics base plan right now. It will probably take me most of the rest of the night to get it together.
Unitveras
"Return to nothingness!"
- Location
- Tatsumiyajima
Thank you very much Elder Haman *hat tip*.
Elite support for Kofu and Numazu is an interesting idea, but it requires that they actually allow our agents to act inside their territory, and there's a pretty high probability that Numazu, at least, will reject that. With Kofu's comments this turn, I don't know that they'd be too inclined to accept either.
We want at least 80 total space, which means 32 space rented this turn. We can go with 32 and save money, but that requires 2 vets. If we're using 2 vets anyway, we can rent up to 40 without any extra meguca cost. If we might potentially add a few more random refugees (such as pulling some out of Kofu or Numazu), renting 40 more space gives us a little extra wiggle room.
As for the decompression time... I'm not sure. Since we don't actually know what specific benefits Chisato's cooking might provide, we still want to reduce the risk of over-stressing the combat groups.
On the other hand, we did sort of have a break month this last month, so buckling down for a high pressure month should be OK, as long as we're sure to ease off the pressure next month again.
Still, this is also important for all the newbies, with the attempts to get them to better adapt to working with us. With so many of the group being refugee recruits, I rather dislike dropping this.
I've taken it out temporarily, as we work through our other needs, but I'm not guaranteeing it's completely removed.
#1 is definitely a good approach. We've weakened the youma, and have come back with the next step in our plan, so now is the time for all the Tokyo girls to do all they can for the people of Tokyo: kill the wraiths that are killing the people of the city.
#2: OK, good point, though the Gossipmonger is the one with all the contact info for the Tokyo locals.
#3: With the demons as weak as they are, magical girls should be able to easily acquire a good stock of grief cubes. Rather than scavenge and fight with other groups, take the treasure that's right on hand.
#4: Yeah. Encourage everyone in Tokyo to hunt for cubes to help mitigate the DS drop, while we attack the youma predators.
Rewrite:
Gossipmonger (0.5 Mami, 1 vet, 1 green):
Using the contact info for the girls in Tokyo, and assistance from an extra green for the extra busywork, Mami needs to encourage the Tokyo locals to stand their ground in the city. While the Serenes are making another strike at the youma around the city, we want and need the Tokyo magical girls to do everything they can to hunt up grief cubes, killing the wraiths that are feeding on the human population.
At present, the wraiths are so weak as to be laughable, making it trivial for any magical girl to harvest up a ton of grief cubes. Killing the wraiths will help a great deal in keeping the humans alive, and not falling to the levels of Hong Kong. At the same time, the Serenes will be focusing on taking out the youma, keeping them busy and off the backs of the magical girls in the city. "If you want to save your city, this is where you need to take a stand."
Yuka, meanwhile, will focus on talks with Kofu and Numazu to get them to try to send the girls they're having trouble with towards us.
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Put Yuka more on the Kofu/Numazu side of things, since Mami is mostly the one talking to those in Tokyo (and the green assisting both of them as needed). That takes out the explicit action/vet for Kofu/Numazu. Whether we put elites into that can be dealt with separately.
Re: Sachiko -
Bringing up the issue of Tokyo aftermath is probably good, though.
Added 1 vet to Nagoya, for time spent talking back and forth about how we can mutually manage things afterwards.
We acquired 48 spaces for the initial batch of 40 refugees. If we accept 27 more, that will require an absolute minimum of 19 more spaces, which leaves the refugee apartment occupation level at 99%, on top of having to double up because we don't have half of them living with families.
We want at least 80 total space, which means 32 space rented this turn. We can go with 32 and save money, but that requires 2 vets. If we're using 2 vets anyway, we can rent up to 40 without any extra meguca cost. If we might potentially add a few more random refugees (such as pulling some out of Kofu or Numazu), renting 40 more space gives us a little extra wiggle room.
Adding an assistant for Chisato is a good idea.
As for the decompression time... I'm not sure. Since we don't actually know what specific benefits Chisato's cooking might provide, we still want to reduce the risk of over-stressing the combat groups.
On the other hand, we did sort of have a break month this last month, so buckling down for a high pressure month should be OK, as long as we're sure to ease off the pressure next month again.
Still, this is also important for all the newbies, with the attempts to get them to better adapt to working with us. With so many of the group being refugee recruits, I rather dislike dropping this.
I've taken it out temporarily, as we work through our other needs, but I'm not guaranteeing it's completely removed.
Yeah, it can definitely be done better.
#1 is definitely a good approach. We've weakened the youma, and have come back with the next step in our plan, so now is the time for all the Tokyo girls to do all they can for the people of Tokyo: kill the wraiths that are killing the people of the city.
#2: OK, good point, though the Gossipmonger is the one with all the contact info for the Tokyo locals.
#3: With the demons as weak as they are, magical girls should be able to easily acquire a good stock of grief cubes. Rather than scavenge and fight with other groups, take the treasure that's right on hand.
#4: Yeah. Encourage everyone in Tokyo to hunt for cubes to help mitigate the DS drop, while we attack the youma predators.
Rewrite:
Gossipmonger (0.5 Mami, 1 vet, 1 green):
Using the contact info for the girls in Tokyo, and assistance from an extra green for the extra busywork, Mami needs to encourage the Tokyo locals to stand their ground in the city. While the Serenes are making another strike at the youma around the city, we want and need the Tokyo magical girls to do everything they can to hunt up grief cubes, killing the wraiths that are feeding on the human population.
At present, the wraiths are so weak as to be laughable, making it trivial for any magical girl to harvest up a ton of grief cubes. Killing the wraiths will help a great deal in keeping the humans alive, and not falling to the levels of Hong Kong. At the same time, the Serenes will be focusing on taking out the youma, keeping them busy and off the backs of the magical girls in the city. "If you want to save your city, this is where you need to take a stand."
Yuka, meanwhile, will focus on talks with Kofu and Numazu to get them to try to send the girls they're having trouble with towards us.
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Put Yuka more on the Kofu/Numazu side of things, since Mami is mostly the one talking to those in Tokyo (and the green assisting both of them as needed). That takes out the explicit action/vet for Kofu/Numazu. Whether we put elites into that can be dealt with separately.
Re: Sachiko -
I figure Sachiko will either be trivial, or a mini-turn in itself. As such, I didn't think it was necessary to add extra complexity here. The proposal is already there: Try for $1 million loan or line of credit. We already have planning for future income to balance this out. Not sure what else you think needs to be added.
What process?
Bringing up the issue of Tokyo aftermath is probably good, though.
Added 1 vet to Nagoya, for time spent talking back and forth about how we can mutually manage things afterwards.
Heh. She'd actually fit the role, wouldn't she? And we're not doing any research at the moment... Still, I don't know that I'd want her in the line of fire. Maybe as a backup.
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With the adjustments noted above, and the job distribution fixes that helix corrected, but no changes to the hunting setup, and keeping the decompression time, I'm at:
Elites: 4/5
Vets: 63/65
Greens: 61.5/64
Switching to full green hunting would require 11 more greens — more than we have available, even with dropping a couple options. I don't think it's worthwhile, since it also requires buying substantially more armor.
Aside from Serena's group, it leaves 1 elite, 2 vets, and 2.5 greens. That's enough to pick up a couple more actions, or add a 3rd vet to artifact training (which I'll go ahead and do). So 1 elite and 1 vet remaining for significant actions.
For the last couple greens... I'm not really sure. What can they do to keep busy? Maybe can come up with something in the fluff section.
Elites: 4/5
Vets: 63/65
Greens: 61.5/64
Switching to full green hunting would require 11 more greens — more than we have available, even with dropping a couple options. I don't think it's worthwhile, since it also requires buying substantially more armor.
Aside from Serena's group, it leaves 1 elite, 2 vets, and 2.5 greens. That's enough to pick up a couple more actions, or add a 3rd vet to artifact training (which I'll go ahead and do). So 1 elite and 1 vet remaining for significant actions.
For the last couple greens... I'm not really sure. What can they do to keep busy? Maybe can come up with something in the fluff section.
Final Draft
Another 27 girls from Tokyo came upon your forward operations looking for refuge this month. Still no elites, but this group at least had 8 veterans.
8 veterans (1 clairvoyant, 1 healer, 1 translator)
19 greens (4 barrier, 3 healer, 2 stealth, 1 clairvoyant, 1 teleporter)
-- Accept
Results in:
4 Elite (Mami, Kyouko, Seto, Taya)
Serena + 6
65 Vets
64 Greens
Support/Upkeep (12 vets, 9.5 greens)
Training upkeep: 10% of 65 vets, 10% of 64 greens = 6.5 vets, 6.5 greens
Bureaucratic upkeep: 5% of 65 vets, 5% of 64 greens = 3.5 vets, 3 greens
Dispatch: 2 vets
Hunting (0.5 Seto, 1 vet, 30.5 greens)
North (Seto teleportation)
0.5 vet, experienced, solo, kevlar clothing (0% casualty)
2 green, experienced, pack, no armor (-3% casualty)
10 green, untrained, pack, full kevlar (-1% casualty)
>> Cubes: 37.1, capped at 37
>> Expected DS 0.0 to 0.0
South (Seto teleportation)
0.5 vet, experienced, solo, kevlar vest and leather (0% casualty)
2 green, experienced, pack, no armor (-3% casualty)
10 green, untrained, pack, full kevlar (-1% casualty)
>> Cubes: 37.1, capped at 37
>> Expected DS 0.0 to 0.0
Rural
1 green, experienced, pack, no armor (-2% casualty)
5.5 green, untrained, pack, hard leather (-2% casualty)
>> Cubes: 7.8
>> DS -4.9 to -5.1
Armor used:
20.5 sets of full kevlar
5.5 sets hard leather
Cubes:
81.8 - 1 (forecasting) - 2.3 (teleportation) = 78.5
Morale (7.5 vets, $1,000)
Mentors: Devise a mentorship program, where existing members give about 10% of their time to helping welcome and acclimate the refugee recruits, and are given a pair of disciples each (each disciple likewise has two mentors). The goal is to help them acclimate at a more personal level, and a better mental grasp of our worldview and group culture (which should also help them in their combat training). The mentors likewise gain a personal closeness to help integrate the new girls into the group.
6.5 vets (67 recruits * 10% = 6.7, rounded to nearest 0.5 meguca)
Good food (1 Chisato, $1,000): Set Chisato on a rotation of cooking for people throughout the org, letting her cycle through the houses and apartment blocks to cook for people. Provide $1,000 for additional ingredients beyond the current basic. In particular, see what she can do when not held back to the requirements of serving the public. Home cooking, comfort food, pick-me-ups, healthy food for those training, etc.; show off what she can do with her magic. Assign Akane as her mentor.
Training (1 Mami, 7 vets, 13 greens, $2,250)
General Training: Train the new recruits understand our procedures and tactics.
3 Vets and 13 greens
Month 2 for turn 33 refugees
Artifact powering: Send a couple girls to train with Hiko to learn how to handle powering her artifacts.
$2,250 (for rail passes), 4 vets, 1 Mami. Include Keiko and 3 other meguca without wish magic specialization who seem more resistant to Serena's aura than most.
Jobs (15 vets, 11 greens, 1 associate, $100)
Existing jobs: 8 vets, 11 greens, 1 associate
Pet Whisperer (1 Nagisa, $100): Start putting out notices to gain work, while continuing to spend time at animal shelters, pet parks, and pet shops to help practice and gain recognition. Print up some fliers and business cards and ask to leave them in various appropriate businesses.
Translator (1 vet): One of the new refugees has translation powers. Set her up with Hainako to expand their ability to handle job requests.
Nagoya Magocracy (5 vets): Nagoya has requested some experienced quants to help handle their development of improved hunting in their territory, paying at $2k/month each.
Tokyo Assault (1.5 elites, 15.5 vets, 7 Serena group)
Full Time Tokyo Gossipmonger/Coordinator (1 Vet): Continue to keep the Tokyo Elites (and prominent vets) informed about our plans for Tokyo. Ask them about the situation in Tokyo, and the difficulties in hunting. Explain that the incubators have decided Tokyo's demise has been delayed but that we need to finish off the youma before we can ensure Tokyo won't go the way of Hong Kong.
- Push hard for them to join us in fighting the youma this turn, giving them the planned locations (after our first trial run) so they can join us for the ambush. See if any are amenable to a more formal recruitment.
Half-time in Tokyo: 3 elites (Kyouko, Kyo-clone, and Taya), 29 vets, 7 in Serena's group
Details:
Dispatch Team: Taya + clairvoyant
Teleporter Team: 4 vets, in addition to providing teleport support they also create teleport charms for everyone.
General Support Team:
4 to 6 barrier girls
2 to 4 healers
10 to 12 artillery
Use multiple plans to lure the youma to attack so we can trap them with the interdiction artifact and kill them.
Ask Kyubey to continue to monitor the Eyeball oni. If it makes a move towards our boundaries (in teleport range) move operations to a different location, or possibly stop operations till we see what it does.
First two weeks: give Serena and her girls a solid two weeks just to work on getting the new girls to the point of being able to fight without penalties, and improve communication.
Starting the third week:
First day do a practice run of each scenario multiple times. Second day do a practice run of each scenario multiple times.
Third day use the Pair of Hunters Lure in Hakone (where we hunted last month). If doing as a mini-turn this would be a good break point.
Following this we plan four more ambushes, one a day, alternating both the tactic we use and the location we do this (significantly vary, Gunma, Hakone, other locations). Goal is to kill 10 youma.
On the last week we spend 7 days doing a massive hunt in Hakone (Minamiashigara, Odawara, Hadano area = ~12 cubes) under the protection of the artifact (with Serena on guard to move to block any youma that attempt to enter Hakone area using non-teleportation). Serena is based on Mt. Hakone (different mountain) with teleport support to move her to block any attacking youma while dispatch team provides support.
Expected cubes from this: 18 vets (28 vets - the vets on the artifact, dispatch, or teleport teams) and 4 Elite pack hunting for 1/4 of a month produces 19.9 cubes.
We could even get more if we had Serena hunting while on call...
Needs 20.5 sets of kevlar armor
Diplomacy (2 elites, 3 vets)
Local Gossipmonger/Coordinator (1 vet, 10 cubes):
Stay in touch with all the local girls (Kofu, Numazu, Coalition, The Enlightened, and Area 3). Try to encourage and coordinate a regional response to the refugee problem. Identify when there is a problem in an area, and help the local girls coordinate as best they can. Specifically ask the Coalition and The Enlightened to help provide scouting information about refugees so that we can avoid ambushes, approach refugee girls with a force outnumbering theirs, etc. Ten cubes is the budget to work with for aiding local groups (the above excepting The Enlightened as they are too big to need it) that need help.
- In addition ask the Coalition if they would be willing to consider hunting in Tokyo if we provided them with teleport charms allowing them to escape youma responding to them?
Kofu, Numazu (2 elite, 1.5 vets 20 cubes): Including 0.5 Taya and 0.5 Seto to Numazu with 0.5 Kyouko and Kyoclone to Kofu (avoid putting Kyouko in Numazu where there might still be some hard feelings). Apologize for not being as proactive about stemming the refugee problem as we should have. Assign an elite to each group to help the locals with preventing poaching, coordinate with the local forces as much as possible. Attempt to recruit any refugees with a budget of 20 cubes to help out with urgent cube need. If there are girls who refuse to join the Serenes we can direct some them towards Magick Corp, showing them the sample contracts (send no more than three girls that way though). As another option, offer to provide girls that insist on staying independent with teleport charms so they can safely hunt the boarder regions of Tokyo. However, use force if necessary to prevent girls from hunting the territory of the locals (again coordinate this with the locals so that we have their support if it comes to force, retreat if outnumbered, etc. All the typical Serene safety procedures.) There are also 1.5 vets assigned to represent reinforcements that can be called in by the Serene Elite if more girl power is needed based on refugee numbers (call it an additional 6 girls available about 1/4 of the time). Goal in combat would be to size the girl's gems, forcing them into a coma state and then preserving their bodies and soul gems to be revived once the Tokyo crisis is resolved.
Magick Company (1 vet):
Nagoya (1 vet):
Purchases (2 vets, $21,200)
Apartments: 40 space for new refugees.
2 vets, $10,000
Armor: Purchase 7 additional Kevalr armor sets from Nagoya.
$11,200
Fluff
Mami talks to Serena about plans for housing: That we plan to obtain an abandoned village and build new small houses there that should be more than sufficient for her and her friends. We are working on obtaining the financing, and hope to have the houses ready with in a couple months. Thank Serena for all she and her group have been doing to save Tokyo. Pass on to Serena the Incubator's comments about their plans to "sterilize" Tokyo, and how they have been delayed due to Serena's efforts.
Mami talks to Keiko about polite behavior: Explaining that we are sending Keiko because we believe that she will benefit tremendously from the experience, but that we want to stress the absolute importance of proper behavior, not offending our essential new ally, and in general - listen instead of talking. Also, Mami will be coming along and will keep an eye on Keiko to make sure she is on her best behavior.
Mami gives Serenes a briefing and plan for this month: Mami (in four shifts) briefs the girls about the results of the last two months and the plans for this month. Include the incubator report that Tokyo's demise has been delayed due to our actions (don't reveal that the Incubators planned on sterilizing Tokyo), and that Miya's sacrifice means the survival of all the citizens of Tokyo. There is still more to do to secure a full victory. We've obtained teleportation interdiction technology from another organization to help us in kill the youma. Explain the plan for this month, thanking the new greens for their hunting efforts which will keep the rest of us provided with cubes while focusing on Tokyo.
Plan for our technician guest from Heaven's Chosen: Arrange for the technician from Heaven's Chosen to spend time with our quant/dispatch team when she isn't maintaining the artifact. Also have her follow Chisato around during the dinners, (assisting her if she's willing).
Meguca Months used:
Serena: 7/7
Elites: 5/5
Vets: 65/65
Greens: 64/64
Grief cubes:
Gains: 113.6 (starting) + 78.5 (net harvest) + ??? (class 3 kills+bounties) + over 19.9 (Tokyo Hunt) = 212 + bounties/kills
Costs: 141 (upkeep) + ??? (Tokyo) + 30 (Diplomacy) = 171 + Tokyo costs
Final (before spirals): 41 + bounties/kills - Tokyo costs
Money:
Income: $53,730 (bank) + $37,500 (income) + $10,000 (NM service) + Loan (??) = $101,230
Expenses: $46,520 (upkeep) + $10,000 (apartments) + $11,200 (armor) + $6,750 (welcome packages) + $100 (advertising) +$1,000 (ingredients) + $2,250 (rail passes) = $77,820
Final: $23,410
Another 27 girls from Tokyo came upon your forward operations looking for refuge this month. Still no elites, but this group at least had 8 veterans.
8 veterans (1 clairvoyant, 1 healer, 1 translator)
19 greens (4 barrier, 3 healer, 2 stealth, 1 clairvoyant, 1 teleporter)
-- Accept
Results in:
4 Elite (Mami, Kyouko, Seto, Taya)
Serena + 6
65 Vets
64 Greens
Support/Upkeep (12 vets, 9.5 greens)
Training upkeep: 10% of 65 vets, 10% of 64 greens = 6.5 vets, 6.5 greens
Bureaucratic upkeep: 5% of 65 vets, 5% of 64 greens = 3.5 vets, 3 greens
Dispatch: 2 vets
Hunting (0.5 Seto, 1 vet, 30.5 greens)
North (Seto teleportation)
0.5 vet, experienced, solo, kevlar clothing (0% casualty)
2 green, experienced, pack, no armor (-3% casualty)
10 green, untrained, pack, full kevlar (-1% casualty)
>> Cubes: 37.1, capped at 37
>> Expected DS 0.0 to 0.0
South (Seto teleportation)
0.5 vet, experienced, solo, kevlar vest and leather (0% casualty)
2 green, experienced, pack, no armor (-3% casualty)
10 green, untrained, pack, full kevlar (-1% casualty)
>> Cubes: 37.1, capped at 37
>> Expected DS 0.0 to 0.0
Rural
1 green, experienced, pack, no armor (-2% casualty)
5.5 green, untrained, pack, hard leather (-2% casualty)
>> Cubes: 7.8
>> DS -4.9 to -5.1
Armor used:
20.5 sets of full kevlar
5.5 sets hard leather
Cubes:
81.8 - 1 (forecasting) - 2.3 (teleportation) = 78.5
Morale (7.5 vets, $1,000)
Mentors: Devise a mentorship program, where existing members give about 10% of their time to helping welcome and acclimate the refugee recruits, and are given a pair of disciples each (each disciple likewise has two mentors). The goal is to help them acclimate at a more personal level, and a better mental grasp of our worldview and group culture (which should also help them in their combat training). The mentors likewise gain a personal closeness to help integrate the new girls into the group.
6.5 vets (67 recruits * 10% = 6.7, rounded to nearest 0.5 meguca)
Good food (1 Chisato, $1,000): Set Chisato on a rotation of cooking for people throughout the org, letting her cycle through the houses and apartment blocks to cook for people. Provide $1,000 for additional ingredients beyond the current basic. In particular, see what she can do when not held back to the requirements of serving the public. Home cooking, comfort food, pick-me-ups, healthy food for those training, etc.; show off what she can do with her magic. Assign Akane as her mentor.
Training (1 Mami, 7 vets, 13 greens, $2,250)
General Training: Train the new recruits understand our procedures and tactics.
3 Vets and 13 greens
Month 2 for turn 33 refugees
Artifact powering: Send a couple girls to train with Hiko to learn how to handle powering her artifacts.
$2,250 (for rail passes), 4 vets, 1 Mami. Include Keiko and 3 other meguca without wish magic specialization who seem more resistant to Serena's aura than most.
Jobs (15 vets, 11 greens, 1 associate, $100)
Existing jobs: 8 vets, 11 greens, 1 associate
Pet Whisperer (1 Nagisa, $100): Start putting out notices to gain work, while continuing to spend time at animal shelters, pet parks, and pet shops to help practice and gain recognition. Print up some fliers and business cards and ask to leave them in various appropriate businesses.
Translator (1 vet): One of the new refugees has translation powers. Set her up with Hainako to expand their ability to handle job requests.
Nagoya Magocracy (5 vets): Nagoya has requested some experienced quants to help handle their development of improved hunting in their territory, paying at $2k/month each.
Tokyo Assault (1.5 elites, 15.5 vets, 7 Serena group)
Full Time Tokyo Gossipmonger/Coordinator (1 Vet): Continue to keep the Tokyo Elites (and prominent vets) informed about our plans for Tokyo. Ask them about the situation in Tokyo, and the difficulties in hunting. Explain that the incubators have decided Tokyo's demise has been delayed but that we need to finish off the youma before we can ensure Tokyo won't go the way of Hong Kong.
- Push hard for them to join us in fighting the youma this turn, giving them the planned locations (after our first trial run) so they can join us for the ambush. See if any are amenable to a more formal recruitment.
Half-time in Tokyo: 3 elites (Kyouko, Kyo-clone, and Taya), 29 vets, 7 in Serena's group
Details:
Dispatch Team: Taya + clairvoyant
Teleporter Team: 4 vets, in addition to providing teleport support they also create teleport charms for everyone.
Kyouko and Kyo-clone
2 barrier vets
1 teleporter vet
2 stealth vet
Typical Artifact Support Team Deployment:
Artifact and Battery is deployed in the planned ambush zone while under tandem stealth of Kyouko and Kyo-clone, with the two stealth vet tandem casting beneath. After the interdiction field is activated, Kyouko and Kyo-clone join the combat, while the stealth vets continue to use tandem stealth to conceal the artifact and battery, and the two barrier girls put up a tandem barrier to protect the artifact and battery from stray attacks. The teleporter stands by the artifact, ready to teleport away with the artifact if it is decided to be necessary.
Generally, when the battle is won, Kyo-clone and Kyouko will return and reactivate tandem stealth, under which the artifact and battery will be returned to our forward base.
If there is a decision to retreat the artifact and battery will remain concealed until the youma leave, then return as normal. This will probably only happen if the youma showed up in larger numbers than expected and the interdiction field was never activated.
If the concealment is pierced, then the teleporter is to retreat with the artifact, and the rest of the team is to teleport charm escape, abandoning the battery. Later the battery will be recovered if possible after the youma leave.
2 barrier vets
1 teleporter vet
2 stealth vet
Typical Artifact Support Team Deployment:
Artifact and Battery is deployed in the planned ambush zone while under tandem stealth of Kyouko and Kyo-clone, with the two stealth vet tandem casting beneath. After the interdiction field is activated, Kyouko and Kyo-clone join the combat, while the stealth vets continue to use tandem stealth to conceal the artifact and battery, and the two barrier girls put up a tandem barrier to protect the artifact and battery from stray attacks. The teleporter stands by the artifact, ready to teleport away with the artifact if it is decided to be necessary.
Generally, when the battle is won, Kyo-clone and Kyouko will return and reactivate tandem stealth, under which the artifact and battery will be returned to our forward base.
If there is a decision to retreat the artifact and battery will remain concealed until the youma leave, then return as normal. This will probably only happen if the youma showed up in larger numbers than expected and the interdiction field was never activated.
If the concealment is pierced, then the teleporter is to retreat with the artifact, and the rest of the team is to teleport charm escape, abandoning the battery. Later the battery will be recovered if possible after the youma leave.
General Support Team:
4 to 6 barrier girls
2 to 4 healers
10 to 12 artillery
Use multiple plans to lure the youma to attack so we can trap them with the interdiction artifact and kill them.
As last month, send a pair of girls to begin hunting openly. But first position the interdiction artifact with battery nearby to enclose them in its interdiction field. When the youma pair teleport in to attack the pair of hunters. Teleport Serena (transformed) with her group and the entire vet support team into the combat and then turn the interdiction artifact on.
Kill the youma pair, and then withdraw.
Contingency:
If more than a pair of youma attack, hunters retreat immediately using teleport charms. If discovered, the artifact team retreats as well, abandoning the battery.
Kill the youma pair, and then withdraw.
Contingency:
If more than a pair of youma attack, hunters retreat immediately using teleport charms. If discovered, the artifact team retreats as well, abandoning the battery.
Send a pack of girls (the general support team) to begin hunting openly. But first position the interdiction artifact with battery nearby to enclose them in its interdiction field. When the youma pair teleport in to attack the pair of hunters. Teleport Serena (transformed) with her group into the combat and then turn the interdiction artifact on.
Kill the youma pair, and then withdraw.
Contingency:
If more than a pair of youma attack, hunters retreat immediately using teleport charms. If discovered, the artifact team retreats as well, abandoning the battery.
Kill the youma pair, and then withdraw.
Contingency:
If more than a pair of youma attack, hunters retreat immediately using teleport charms. If discovered, the artifact team retreats as well, abandoning the battery.
As used in the closing period of two months ago, have Kyo-clone lure a pair of youma away from the city where we have an ambush waiting, including the artifact and battery. (The artifact and battery will have been pre-positioned, and since it is outside the city only with tandem vet stealth.) Teleport Serena (transformed) in with her group and then turn the interdiction artifact on
Kill the youma.
Contingency:
If more than a pair of youma attack, hunters retreat immediately using teleport charms. If discovered, the artifact team retreats as well, abandoning the battery.
Kill the youma.
Contingency:
If more than a pair of youma attack, hunters retreat immediately using teleport charms. If discovered, the artifact team retreats as well, abandoning the battery.
Ask Kyubey to continue to monitor the Eyeball oni. If it makes a move towards our boundaries (in teleport range) move operations to a different location, or possibly stop operations till we see what it does.
First two weeks: give Serena and her girls a solid two weeks just to work on getting the new girls to the point of being able to fight without penalties, and improve communication.
Starting the third week:
First day do a practice run of each scenario multiple times. Second day do a practice run of each scenario multiple times.
Third day use the Pair of Hunters Lure in Hakone (where we hunted last month). If doing as a mini-turn this would be a good break point.
Following this we plan four more ambushes, one a day, alternating both the tactic we use and the location we do this (significantly vary, Gunma, Hakone, other locations). Goal is to kill 10 youma.
On the last week we spend 7 days doing a massive hunt in Hakone (Minamiashigara, Odawara, Hadano area = ~12 cubes) under the protection of the artifact (with Serena on guard to move to block any youma that attempt to enter Hakone area using non-teleportation). Serena is based on Mt. Hakone (different mountain) with teleport support to move her to block any attacking youma while dispatch team provides support.
Expected cubes from this: 18 vets (28 vets - the vets on the artifact, dispatch, or teleport teams) and 4 Elite pack hunting for 1/4 of a month produces 19.9 cubes.
We could even get more if we had Serena hunting while on call...
Needs 20.5 sets of kevlar armor
Diplomacy (2 elites, 3 vets)
Local Gossipmonger/Coordinator (1 vet, 10 cubes):
Stay in touch with all the local girls (Kofu, Numazu, Coalition, The Enlightened, and Area 3). Try to encourage and coordinate a regional response to the refugee problem. Identify when there is a problem in an area, and help the local girls coordinate as best they can. Specifically ask the Coalition and The Enlightened to help provide scouting information about refugees so that we can avoid ambushes, approach refugee girls with a force outnumbering theirs, etc. Ten cubes is the budget to work with for aiding local groups (the above excepting The Enlightened as they are too big to need it) that need help.
- In addition ask the Coalition if they would be willing to consider hunting in Tokyo if we provided them with teleport charms allowing them to escape youma responding to them?
Kofu, Numazu (2 elite, 1.5 vets 20 cubes): Including 0.5 Taya and 0.5 Seto to Numazu with 0.5 Kyouko and Kyoclone to Kofu (avoid putting Kyouko in Numazu where there might still be some hard feelings). Apologize for not being as proactive about stemming the refugee problem as we should have. Assign an elite to each group to help the locals with preventing poaching, coordinate with the local forces as much as possible. Attempt to recruit any refugees with a budget of 20 cubes to help out with urgent cube need. If there are girls who refuse to join the Serenes we can direct some them towards Magick Corp, showing them the sample contracts (send no more than three girls that way though). As another option, offer to provide girls that insist on staying independent with teleport charms so they can safely hunt the boarder regions of Tokyo. However, use force if necessary to prevent girls from hunting the territory of the locals (again coordinate this with the locals so that we have their support if it comes to force, retreat if outnumbered, etc. All the typical Serene safety procedures.) There are also 1.5 vets assigned to represent reinforcements that can be called in by the Serene Elite if more girl power is needed based on refugee numbers (call it an additional 6 girls available about 1/4 of the time). Goal in combat would be to size the girl's gems, forcing them into a coma state and then preserving their bodies and soul gems to be revived once the Tokyo crisis is resolved.
Magick Company (1 vet):
Point out the economic difficulties being created by the Tokyo crisis. The recession, the depression in the population due to lack of hunting, and so forth. Relieving the Tokyo crisis quickly will benefit everyone indirectly, including Magick Corp.
The Serenes have been putting a lot of resources into clearing Tokyo, and we are beginning to reach the limits of our own on hand monetary resources. We can continue to successfully clear Tokyo, but believe that recovery will be hampered and slowed by the lack of resources to rebuild. In the worst case, the lack of Tokyo organizations might entice other outside organizations to contest Tokyo, leading to more conflict and another youma outbreak.
Therefor we would like to invite Magick Corp to invest in the rebuilding of Tokyo. Not only will this benefit Magic Corp indirectly through the economic recovery of Tokyo, but there are numerous other benefits.
First, the Serenes will borrow the money with an agreement to pay it back with interest. So Magick Corp will continue to make Sachiko's customary profit. Second, it will establish stronger and more friendly relations between the Serenes and Magick Corp, as we would certainly remember who helped us. Third, it will provide Magick Corp the opportunity to establish itself as the primary lender to Magical Girl organizations in Tokyo. Magick Corp will be free to publicize its funding of the Serene rebuilding of Tokyo, and it will be natural for any other organizations in Tokyo to also approach Magick Corp for loans. (Also subtly feel Sachiko out to see if she is interested in claiming Tokyo territory).
Specifically, the Serenes would ask for a line credit of $4 million, available to be borrowed when needed, with a minimum of $400,000 borrowed to keep the credit line open. Interest to be paid on the actual amount borrowed. Our expectation is to borrow less than the maximum, probably no more than $2 million, but we wish the higher limit to be prepared for unexpected expenses.
As to the Serene ability to carry this loan, we plan to massively expand our current courier business into Tokyo once the current crisis is resolved. With just the Yokohama and Downtown Tokyo area we expect a revenue of $100,000 which is enough to carry a loan of $4 million at 2.5% interest. We also hope to arrange safe passage for businesses with all organizations in Tokyo which should allow almost double that in revenue. We also have a successful restaurant business which we also expect to expand to Tokyo. (The courier business + 5 restaurants would allow us to carry a $4 million loan at 5% interest).
One key issue is that the current crisis in Tokyo requires expending a lot of money right now, but without the ability to begin expanding businesses until all the youma have been slain. Something that mundane banks would not understand, but that Magick Corp is uniquely positioned to recognize. Thus we we would propose a grace period before interest payments begin. We managed to kill ten youma a month ago, and plan to kill another ten this month. Our hope is to clear out all the youma within three to fourth months. Giving us another two months to stabilize Tokyo would put us at six months. We feel a six month grace period would be sufficient.
Is Magick Corp able to make a loan of this size? What interest rate would they charge for such a loan? Does Magick Corp have any other opinions about the future disposition of Tokyo?
The Serenes have been putting a lot of resources into clearing Tokyo, and we are beginning to reach the limits of our own on hand monetary resources. We can continue to successfully clear Tokyo, but believe that recovery will be hampered and slowed by the lack of resources to rebuild. In the worst case, the lack of Tokyo organizations might entice other outside organizations to contest Tokyo, leading to more conflict and another youma outbreak.
Therefor we would like to invite Magick Corp to invest in the rebuilding of Tokyo. Not only will this benefit Magic Corp indirectly through the economic recovery of Tokyo, but there are numerous other benefits.
First, the Serenes will borrow the money with an agreement to pay it back with interest. So Magick Corp will continue to make Sachiko's customary profit. Second, it will establish stronger and more friendly relations between the Serenes and Magick Corp, as we would certainly remember who helped us. Third, it will provide Magick Corp the opportunity to establish itself as the primary lender to Magical Girl organizations in Tokyo. Magick Corp will be free to publicize its funding of the Serene rebuilding of Tokyo, and it will be natural for any other organizations in Tokyo to also approach Magick Corp for loans. (Also subtly feel Sachiko out to see if she is interested in claiming Tokyo territory).
Specifically, the Serenes would ask for a line credit of $4 million, available to be borrowed when needed, with a minimum of $400,000 borrowed to keep the credit line open. Interest to be paid on the actual amount borrowed. Our expectation is to borrow less than the maximum, probably no more than $2 million, but we wish the higher limit to be prepared for unexpected expenses.
As to the Serene ability to carry this loan, we plan to massively expand our current courier business into Tokyo once the current crisis is resolved. With just the Yokohama and Downtown Tokyo area we expect a revenue of $100,000 which is enough to carry a loan of $4 million at 2.5% interest. We also hope to arrange safe passage for businesses with all organizations in Tokyo which should allow almost double that in revenue. We also have a successful restaurant business which we also expect to expand to Tokyo. (The courier business + 5 restaurants would allow us to carry a $4 million loan at 5% interest).
One key issue is that the current crisis in Tokyo requires expending a lot of money right now, but without the ability to begin expanding businesses until all the youma have been slain. Something that mundane banks would not understand, but that Magick Corp is uniquely positioned to recognize. Thus we we would propose a grace period before interest payments begin. We managed to kill ten youma a month ago, and plan to kill another ten this month. Our hope is to clear out all the youma within three to fourth months. Giving us another two months to stabilize Tokyo would put us at six months. We feel a six month grace period would be sufficient.
Is Magick Corp able to make a loan of this size? What interest rate would they charge for such a loan? Does Magick Corp have any other opinions about the future disposition of Tokyo?
Nagoya (1 vet):
Keep Nagoya appraised of our plans to hunt youma again this month. Suggest that while the risk of youma fleeing appears to be lower than we originally expected it would be appreciated if Nagoya could send at least one interdiction team to respond to unexpected problems of that sort.
Also raise the issue of future disposition of Tokyo, and get Nagoya's impression of what they would like. Propose that the outside organizations who have made contributions to the defense of Tokyo ought to divide Tokyo into zones of influence with each custodial organization responsible for reorganizing the local Tokyo girls, ensuring that there is no dangerous overhunting, etc. What are their thoughts on the matter?
Explain that to obtain Heaven's Chosen anti-teleportation technology we had to agree to grant HC a zone of influence of 150 cubes, though as part of the deal we insisted that they commit to not overhunting in Tokyo.
Obviously, since Nagoya and the Serenes have been putting a lot more effort into Tokyo, we would expect Nagoya and the Serenes to be responsible for a much larger portion. How large does Nagoya want and feel comfortable being responsible for? (If they want a number we are thinking for them, suggest a roughly 600 to 800 cube territory).
We would also like there to be an agreement among all the organization in Tokyo to allow safe passage, so that Tokyo girls can live at home and commute to school and work without fear, the boundaries being primarily about hunting territory. Include Hiko's suggested exceptions. What are Nagoya's feelings on the matter?
Anything else that Nagoya wants to bring up with us? About Tokyo? Or about something else?
Also raise the issue of future disposition of Tokyo, and get Nagoya's impression of what they would like. Propose that the outside organizations who have made contributions to the defense of Tokyo ought to divide Tokyo into zones of influence with each custodial organization responsible for reorganizing the local Tokyo girls, ensuring that there is no dangerous overhunting, etc. What are their thoughts on the matter?
Explain that to obtain Heaven's Chosen anti-teleportation technology we had to agree to grant HC a zone of influence of 150 cubes, though as part of the deal we insisted that they commit to not overhunting in Tokyo.
Obviously, since Nagoya and the Serenes have been putting a lot more effort into Tokyo, we would expect Nagoya and the Serenes to be responsible for a much larger portion. How large does Nagoya want and feel comfortable being responsible for? (If they want a number we are thinking for them, suggest a roughly 600 to 800 cube territory).
We would also like there to be an agreement among all the organization in Tokyo to allow safe passage, so that Tokyo girls can live at home and commute to school and work without fear, the boundaries being primarily about hunting territory. Include Hiko's suggested exceptions. What are Nagoya's feelings on the matter?
Anything else that Nagoya wants to bring up with us? About Tokyo? Or about something else?
Purchases (2 vets, $21,200)
Apartments: 40 space for new refugees.
2 vets, $10,000
Armor: Purchase 7 additional Kevalr armor sets from Nagoya.
$11,200
Fluff
Mami talks to Serena about plans for housing: That we plan to obtain an abandoned village and build new small houses there that should be more than sufficient for her and her friends. We are working on obtaining the financing, and hope to have the houses ready with in a couple months. Thank Serena for all she and her group have been doing to save Tokyo. Pass on to Serena the Incubator's comments about their plans to "sterilize" Tokyo, and how they have been delayed due to Serena's efforts.
Mami talks to Keiko about polite behavior: Explaining that we are sending Keiko because we believe that she will benefit tremendously from the experience, but that we want to stress the absolute importance of proper behavior, not offending our essential new ally, and in general - listen instead of talking. Also, Mami will be coming along and will keep an eye on Keiko to make sure she is on her best behavior.
Mami gives Serenes a briefing and plan for this month: Mami (in four shifts) briefs the girls about the results of the last two months and the plans for this month. Include the incubator report that Tokyo's demise has been delayed due to our actions (don't reveal that the Incubators planned on sterilizing Tokyo), and that Miya's sacrifice means the survival of all the citizens of Tokyo. There is still more to do to secure a full victory. We've obtained teleportation interdiction technology from another organization to help us in kill the youma. Explain the plan for this month, thanking the new greens for their hunting efforts which will keep the rest of us provided with cubes while focusing on Tokyo.
Plan for our technician guest from Heaven's Chosen: Arrange for the technician from Heaven's Chosen to spend time with our quant/dispatch team when she isn't maintaining the artifact. Also have her follow Chisato around during the dinners, (assisting her if she's willing).
Meguca Months used:
Serena: 7/7
Elites: 5/5
Vets: 65/65
Greens: 64/64
Grief cubes:
Gains: 113.6 (starting) + 78.5 (net harvest) + ??? (class 3 kills+bounties) + over 19.9 (Tokyo Hunt) = 212 + bounties/kills
Costs: 141 (upkeep) + ??? (Tokyo) + 30 (Diplomacy) = 171 + Tokyo costs
Final (before spirals): 41 + bounties/kills - Tokyo costs
Money:
Income: $53,730 (bank) + $37,500 (income) + $10,000 (NM service) + Loan (??) = $101,230
Expenses: $46,520 (upkeep) + $10,000 (apartments) + $11,200 (armor) + $6,750 (welcome packages) + $100 (advertising) +$1,000 (ingredients) + $2,250 (rail passes) = $77,820
Final: $23,410
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Still have 1.5 vets and 0.5 elites to distribute.
Could get the restaurant still with that.
Still need to work out the details for Nagoya and the loan proposal for Magick Corp, but running out of gas. Got sunburned today and not feeling well.
Will work on it some more in the morning.
Could get the restaurant still with that.
Still need to work out the details for Nagoya and the loan proposal for Magick Corp, but running out of gas. Got sunburned today and not feeling well.
Will work on it some more in the morning.
That's incredibly vague and insufficient!
We are talking about making on a massive liability, and we don't even know if 1 million will be enough. We need to carefully assess all the numbers to make an actual loan proposal. Including pay back periods, grace periods, default conditions, etc. Not "Give us million, I think that's enough." What are you going to do if it isn't? Come back in a couple turns asking for more?
You are making tons of assumptions about our future plans, that you do not surface, locking us into a course of action without voters knowing what they are voting for. That is unacceptable.
We need to have a good presentation too, and "we are bad at budgeting" is not how you start out asking for a loan. (Even if it is true!)
EDIT: I'll do it in the morning, too tired and burnt tonight.
Cold storage process.
We ought to send her because she would learn the most. By sending five girls we can afford to send her and have her as a back up.
That reminds me that we need to have a plan for the technician when she's not fixing stuff. Hanging out with the quants? Or dragged along with Chisato as her dragooned assistant?
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OK, for the 2.5 greens I still have, if I pull another 0.5 from the diplomacy assistance, I can put 1.5 greens in pair formation in place of the 1 vet I had there in North and South, yielding exactly 37 cubes in each zone. That would free up 2 vets, and those greens would only need to use leather armor for safety, so no additional armor purchases needed either. There would be a total of 3 trained greens doing hunting.
Hunting (0.5 Seto, 1 elite, 3 vets, 26 greens)
North (Seto teleportation)
0.5 elite, experienced, solo, no armor (-6.0% casualty)
1.5 greens, trained, pair, leather armor (-1% casualty)
1.5 vet, experienced, pack, no armor (-8% casualty)
7.5 green, untrained, pack, full kevlar (-1% casualty)
>> Cubes: 37, capped at 37
>> DS 0.0 to 0.0
South (Seto teleportation)
0.5 elite, experienced, solo, no armor (-6.0% casualty)
1.5 greens, trained, pair, leather armor (-1% casualty)
1.5 vet, experienced, pack, no armor (-8% casualty)
7.5 green, untrained, pack, full kevlar (-1% casualty)
>> Cubes: 37, capped at 37
>> DS 0.0 to 0.0
Rural
8 green, untrained, pack, hard leather (-2% casualty)
>> Cubes: 7.9
>> DS -4.9 to -5.0
Armor used:
15 sets of full kevlar
8 hard leather
3 leather
Cubes:
81.9 - 1 (forecasting) - 1.5 (teleportation) = 79.4
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That leaves me, at present, with 1 free elite and 3 free vets, and 0 greens.
Hunting (0.5 Seto, 1 elite, 3 vets, 26 greens)
North (Seto teleportation)
0.5 elite, experienced, solo, no armor (-6.0% casualty)
1.5 greens, trained, pair, leather armor (-1% casualty)
1.5 vet, experienced, pack, no armor (-8% casualty)
7.5 green, untrained, pack, full kevlar (-1% casualty)
>> Cubes: 37, capped at 37
>> DS 0.0 to 0.0
South (Seto teleportation)
0.5 elite, experienced, solo, no armor (-6.0% casualty)
1.5 greens, trained, pair, leather armor (-1% casualty)
1.5 vet, experienced, pack, no armor (-8% casualty)
7.5 green, untrained, pack, full kevlar (-1% casualty)
>> Cubes: 37, capped at 37
>> DS 0.0 to 0.0
Rural
8 green, untrained, pack, hard leather (-2% casualty)
>> Cubes: 7.9
>> DS -4.9 to -5.0
Armor used:
15 sets of full kevlar
8 hard leather
3 leather
Cubes:
81.9 - 1 (forecasting) - 1.5 (teleportation) = 79.4
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That leaves me, at present, with 1 free elite and 3 free vets, and 0 greens.
I'd drop the single girl lure. Since Kyouko is on artifact duty, she can't be going out to lure, making it pointless.
The other two are basically the same thing, just with different numbers of hunting girls. Will simplify that (and fix a couple typos).
Unit count (vets):
1 clairvoyant
4 teleporters
1 teleporter
2 stealth
2 barrier
6 barrier
4 healer
12 artillary
total = 32
halftime = 16
Can drop artillary to 10 and make it 15.0 meguca units. OK, that matches what you assigned. I'll increase mine to match, which uses up the 3 spare vets I had. (1 free elite left, now)
Can try bringing Taura and her barrier partner to try out the telepathic barrier effect. Use that in the first fight to see how it goes. Can drop it if it doesn't work. They'd replace another artillary/healer pair.
Have left out the scheduling, as I want to give that more thought.
I don't think you guys really are bad at budgeting. You're just bleeding hearts that keep taking everyone in.
If you didn't then your budget would be fine.
@Elder Haman @Kinematics You know, it occurs to me: rather than providing cubes for refugees in Kofu/Area 15/16, we might be better off providing a supply of teleport anchors, so the refugees can hunt in Tokyo with relative impunity. After all, we're keeping tabs on the beholder through kyubey, and so can warn any girls hunting in Tokyo when the onii will be too close to wherever they will be hunting that day. Without the onii around escaping via teleport works just as well for any girls hunting in Tokyo as it does for the youma themselves. That kills two birds with one stone: we get more hunting happening in the border regions, and the refugees get to take care of their cube needs.
That also reminds me: @inverted_helix, have out anchor-makers gotten any better/more efficient at the process? They've been making anchors for months now; surely they've figured out how to do so more efficiently than when they first started.
I wish I could contribute more on the science front, but I'm not sure if we even have the right questions to ask. I think there's some hints in the fact that teleporters have an inherent safety baked into regular teleports that don't exist with the anchor version, how teleporters have an inherent range limit based on their green/vet/Elite status, and how tandem casting can effectively add the ranges of the two teleporters, but I'm not sure how they add up yet. I want to say that teleporters (and clairvoyants, etc) seem to rely on some sort of subspace/aetheric medium for transport, rather than doing some sort of wormhole trick, but I'm not entirely sure if that's supported by the facts.
That also reminds me: @inverted_helix, have out anchor-makers gotten any better/more efficient at the process? They've been making anchors for months now; surely they've figured out how to do so more efficiently than when they first started.
I wish I could contribute more on the science front, but I'm not sure if we even have the right questions to ask. I think there's some hints in the fact that teleporters have an inherent safety baked into regular teleports that don't exist with the anchor version, how teleporters have an inherent range limit based on their green/vet/Elite status, and how tandem casting can effectively add the ranges of the two teleporters, but I'm not sure how they add up yet. I want to say that teleporters (and clairvoyants, etc) seem to rely on some sort of subspace/aetheric medium for transport, rather than doing some sort of wormhole trick, but I'm not entirely sure if that's supported by the facts.
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My plan as it stands now needs to purchase 2 more sets of kevlar, due to the increase in meguca used in Tokyo.
Made a small change in rural hunting, to match what Haman did, putting 1 trained green with the pack of untrained greens. Drops cube harvest by 0.2, but frees up 1.5 greens, which allows me to put the 0.5 green back on assisting Mami and the gossipmonger. Leaves me with 1 spare green to go with 1 elite.
There are a total of 4 trained greens hunting, now. 1 trained green is on mentor duty. And the green helping Mami is assumed to be the 6th trained green we have.
Made a small change in rural hunting, to match what Haman did, putting 1 trained green with the pack of untrained greens. Drops cube harvest by 0.2, but frees up 1.5 greens, which allows me to put the 0.5 green back on assisting Mami and the gossipmonger. Leaves me with 1 spare green to go with 1 elite.
There are a total of 4 trained greens hunting, now. 1 trained green is on mentor duty. And the green helping Mami is assumed to be the 6th trained green we have.
Hmm. Sounds like a decent idea. Will mull it over some.
They may have had the technology for months but you've only had them do it at most one girl-month each I think. I mean from what I recall the most you've spent on one type of charm was 2.5 meguca months on like 167 tandem barriers. Which translates to each girl involved only having spent 1.25 months on making them. So it's not actually that much time spent to gain experience as it sounds like.
Yes there is some design behind this.
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Having read all marked posts and some of the discussion there are four things I'd like to say.
1) Thank you all so much for writing this. (I consider the omakes a part of the story.)
2) Mami automatically resisting Kaoru in the Emotional Resonance omake was very similar to her resisting Selena. In the first case, she could extend her resistance to others, has she tried helping others resist against Selena's aura? With some practice she might even be able to enchant an item with that effect.
3)@Elder Haman, I really like your writing. Still, please learn how to differentiate affect/effect and than/then. In the mentioned omake alone you used the wrong one a dozen times or so.
An example from this page: "without effecting income" should be "affecting". The decreased income would be an effect, but you are affecting the income.
4) What happened to the girl whose mother thought Mami was a Yakuza princess? Was she allowed to leave home again after the bunnycat altered her mother's memories?
1) Thank you all so much for writing this. (I consider the omakes a part of the story.)
2) Mami automatically resisting Kaoru in the Emotional Resonance omake was very similar to her resisting Selena. In the first case, she could extend her resistance to others, has she tried helping others resist against Selena's aura? With some practice she might even be able to enchant an item with that effect.
3)@Elder Haman, I really like your writing. Still, please learn how to differentiate affect/effect and than/then. In the mentioned omake alone you used the wrong one a dozen times or so.
An example from this page: "without effecting income" should be "affecting". The decreased income would be an effect, but you are affecting the income.
4) What happened to the girl whose mother thought Mami was a Yakuza princess? Was she allowed to leave home again after the bunnycat altered her mother's memories?
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Hmm I forgot about that. But it's a very different scale of effect anyway. I'll have to reread that omake to brush up on the details, might need to adjust things, sometimes the omakes slip things by even when I accept them as canon.
Always glad to have more readers though. But you should have carpet liked! I am powered by likes.
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I know there is; your world-building is superb. I'm just not sure we're going to ever be able to derive anything about the cosmology without either forcing you to write the results of a lot of esoteric thaumaturgical experimentation, or you just spoon-feeding it to us. It's the same problem we're having guessing Mami's 'true' power (my conjecture at this point is that it's some sort of innate control over the connections between people), but taken to an even more ridiculous extreme, because there are thousands of ways to build a metaphysical cosmology and we'll be here forever trying to differentiate between them.
Certainly I don't expect any of us in the thread will be of much help trying to come up with theories to assist the Serene in their attempts to build a mind-shield or a castable teleport barrier. I mean we can eliminate a few possibilities, like I'm certain there's no such thing as the Nevernever, nor to the basic rules of magic seem to change on the whims of multiple deities like I've seen in some novels, but overall we're even more blind to the inner workings of the meguca cosmos than the girls themselves would be.
Yes; that was why it was allowed to happen in the first place.
It's a tricky thing to balance. A big part of what I'm doing with this quest is trying to make your technological development reasonable. And that means you're often working with tiny little hints to go in various directions. I don't like spoon-feeding it though. It's really hard to balance making it hard without being impossible.
Esoteric research would be how you'd get it in general though.
So are we going to be asking the questions ourselves, or rely on the fact that the Serenes have a much larger knowledge base than we thread denizens do?
Side note: we still need to get Keiko into an experimental design class.
Well asking the right questions yourselves will certainly provide some help, but you could also do more generic research actions with meguca-power to get some more insight into the systems.