General Exalted Thread
Walker of the Yellow Path
Ho There!
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- The Land of Memes
Two things:
And Secondly, I started a new game with a couple of my friends to help get a new player used to things. One of my friends, who isn't new to the game, decided to play an absolutely stupid build.
A bunch of Solar Melee Offensive Charms (With Solar Counterattack, so he can attack when someone else is attacking) and then 5 Ox Body Charms. Don't remember how he assigned the HLs, but he's also going no armor, just a body like a Joestar and a small loincloth.
He's also an Intelligence 1 stereotype Barbarian who hasn't realized he's a Solar or that Daiklave he looted off one of his foes is the Daiklave of Conquest. (But that doesn't really matter to me. It's not really a serious game.)
Here's the question: How do I challenge this guy meaningfully on a combat level without splattering his guts all over the ground, whilst also keeping it fun for the rest of the group, who listened to me for once when I asked that they at least get a PD.
Still waiting on an answer for this.
And Secondly, I started a new game with a couple of my friends to help get a new player used to things. One of my friends, who isn't new to the game, decided to play an absolutely stupid build.
A bunch of Solar Melee Offensive Charms (With Solar Counterattack, so he can attack when someone else is attacking) and then 5 Ox Body Charms. Don't remember how he assigned the HLs, but he's also going no armor, just a body like a Joestar and a small loincloth.
He's also an Intelligence 1 stereotype Barbarian who hasn't realized he's a Solar or that Daiklave he looted off one of his foes is the Daiklave of Conquest. (But that doesn't really matter to me. It's not really a serious game.)
Here's the question: How do I challenge this guy meaningfully on a combat level without splattering his guts all over the ground, whilst also keeping it fun for the rest of the group, who listened to me for once when I asked that they at least get a PD.
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
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- Bottom of the barrel
Have him fight a Black Claw stylist in a crowded area.
"You monster, how dare you attack that poor defenseless man"
Walker of the Yellow Path
Ho There!
- Location
- The Land of Memes
Black Claw Style? I don't recognize that style, and I'm trying to stay away from Scroll of the Monk.
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
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Its my favorite martial art style, also known as 'Bitchy Cheerleader style'. Its available for Free in the Ink Monkeys document. Very good for challenging people who don't have a full defensive suite or can't afford to lose the support of the people.
Make the opponent and those around you fall in love with you at how your futilely defending yourself against the big bad bully! (even if you started the fight)
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Regarding spirits: I believe that entering a Sanctum isn't difficult as long as you can see it, but I'm away from my books at the moment. There might be Thaumaturgy regarding that.
Regarding the Solar: Have him fight people with lot's of defensive charms, though moderate their usage so that they're not impossible for him to crack, and foes who favor low damage attacks. Thrown might be good, especially if they don't have much in the way of defensive options themselves: he takes hits to get to them, and then murders them. Also check dicepools: a slightly lower dicepool can mean that someone could be somewhat threatening and yet not to much so, given a high number of attacks missing.
Though eventually you'll need to have him get actual defensive charms, and if he continues to refuse then you have an out of game problem.
Edit: Oh, and... crap, the CMA from Glories: Maidens, the one that's all about non-lethal stuff. If you need a somewhat capable fighter that won't kill him that can work, given that the style basically can't kill anyone. It would knock him out.
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Crane Style. One of my favorite styles.
Walker of the Yellow Path
Ho There!
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- The Land of Memes
Wow. His character is already having trouble with the other PCs being worried he's going to snap and turn on them because of a perceived insult or random manipulator. (Valour 5, Temperance 1, and no Integrity). However, he has grasped that the best social defense is to declare combat (To quote Thog: "TALKY MAN TALK TOO MUCH!" ).
Black Claw Style... that might cause some Pvp. Not sure if I want to go for that just yet, since it's one of the player's first time playing.
I'll look at Thaumaturgy again. Might be something I missed.
Crane Style could be fun.
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
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- Bottom of the barrel
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I'd be trying to kill that guy on general principle. Idiots like that are the type to ruin groups.
Sounds like someone needs a visit from the consequences train!
Have an assassin/thief sneak into his room in the middle of the night and take his shit!
azoicennead
Overly-Affectionate Zombie Squad
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Smack your friend and tell them to make a character that isn't a shitty attempt at a combat monster with a hair trigger. If necessary, take time to explain why you want him to make a new character in detail (e.g. other players are worried about him murdering their characters, you don't want to do a TPK because he's being a jackass and pissed off someone the others can't handle).
Walker of the Yellow Path
Ho There!
- Location
- The Land of Memes
Eh, the Group's fairly lenient on stupid Builds and characters. For example, another guy did the chronically terrified Pangolin Lunar Sorcerer for the lawls a few games ago, and no one batted eye (One of them was considering getting a thrown specialty in small animals though.) I'm just slightly annoyed cause he's a direct combat character who will get utterly toasted if I send serious combat opposition at him.
Walker of the Yellow Path
Ho There!
- Location
- The Land of Memes
The others will absolutely able to handle anyone he pisses off. They all choose sensible builds, and two of the others are also Combat Monsters who could out fight him. I'm just worried he's going to get himself splattered by accident....
Smack your friend and tell them to make a character that isn't a shitty attempt at a combat monster with a hair trigger. If necessary, take time to explain why you want him to make a new character in detail (e.g. other players are worried about him murdering their characters, you don't want to do a TPK because he's being a jackass and pissed off someone the others can't handle).
Aaron Peori
Rest in Peace
Open The Spirit Door is a Terrestrial Circle Spell that allow you to enter Sanctums uninvited. Otherwise, you need an invitation or comparable Charms.
Talk to him and tell him that if he doesn't go for a somewhat more survivable build (not sensible, survivable) he may end up splattered the moment actually competent opposition shows up.
notthepenguins
Neither Spherical Nor Frictionless
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I wrote this one for Solars a while back.
Forcing the Doors of Heaven
Cost: 5m, 1wp; Mins: Occult 5, Essence 4; Type: Simple (Speed 5, DV -2)
Keywords: Combo-OK, Obvious
Duration: One Scene
Prerequisite Charms: Magic-Shattering Strike, All-Encompassing Sorcerer's Sight
During the Primordial War, the Unconquered Sun gave himself up to the Primordials in exchange for a single mortal life. The Exalted were faced with a quandary when attempting to rescue him, for the spirits at their side had been banned from opening the doors to Yu-Shan. This Charm was their solution.
This Charm has two effects. The lesser one is that the Solar considers the entrances to the sanctums of spirits or to other realms of existence to be Obvious to his senses as long as it is active. More importantly, after activating this Charm the Solar may wrench open the entrances to such sanctums, with physical force, by declaring his preeminent authority, or by some other method entirely. Regardless of the method, this takes a Miscellaneous Action, and the Solar's caste mark flares brightly for a moment. Afterwards, the portal is open, and may be passed through freely by any kind of being for the remainder of the scene.
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
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I'm not sure how many of you actually pay attention to the offical forums (I know I basically ignore them) but found a very intresting little topic about expanded naval rules and similar that actually make me excited to play an Eclipse again! Not Supernal Sail happy of course, but enough that I'd have fun training up an army of sea monsters, or using ships that aren't F***ing Triemes.
Balatro Philologus
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It's the reason for two of the explicit bans that are present in every edition to date(1). It's also vital to supporting the central setting conceit "consequences are present and matter" that's also the ultimate reason for the third such rule (2)
(1) no 'true resurrection' and no time travel
(2) as of Ex3 "no immortality without non-trivial caveat"(3) to paraphrase
(3) with the best example in EX1&2 being the Neverborn; whose caveat is "Eternity of suffering that makes them long for the release death would bring"
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Roadie
A plate full of blins and a cat nearby.
The most amusing reference to this I've seen was the devs at one time mentioning that even an if an Infernal could tap into Neverborn power, they wouldn't want to, because it would involve buying stuff with names like (to paraphrase) "No-Mouth Screaming Method" or "Infinite Wounds, Infinite Pain" or "Excruciated Torment-Sharing Technique".
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For forms of immortality people might actually go for, there's stuff like your life being hidden in a smashable phylactery or needing to periodically bathe in the blood of virgins to maintain your youth.
Oh come on, hypothetical Infernals. It's not like Malfeas and Cecelyne aren't in constant misery anyway, and I don't see you complaining about those Charms.
HoratioVonBecker
Imperfectly Aligned
How hard is it to say "Creation and Malfeas use the same time, Cecelyne doesn't. Enter Cecelyne, you (usually) need to travel for five subjective days, but when you leave it, only moments have passed"? A few personal scale Artifacts shouldn't mess with the Separation aspect, and a ten day ritual with a five dot Artifact to make a fairly stable largish portal seems like a great setpiece for the end of a campaign.
Obvious solution? The players never get to send messages, they just receive them. As soon as the player decides to set up a "time travel" scenario, the Storyteller gives them messages he thinks they'd send.
This is, of course, if you decide that the "demons Just Know in time to get through Cecelyne by the end of the spell" means actual time travel, rather than Cecelyne being difficult.
I'd be interested, but I have never played, and might be completely unable to. My idea so far, if you could help troubleshoot?
Sherar was part of a small, secluded dojo founded by a (disillusioned) former Immaculate Monk. The Wyld Hunt finally found them when he was in his teens, and in the slaughter that followed, he was incapacitated, unable to do more than watch as he bled out. He was then offered an Abyssal Exaltation, which he accepted, but promptly ignored the orders to wait for pickup in favor of trying to chase down the Hunt.
For his new name, he picked Asherar. Sherar meant "starry sky", and Asherar translates loosely as "no star sky". It doesn't mean "sky without stars", though - there's a word for that - but rather "sky with the stars removed". The correct translation is Heaven With the Stars Ripped Out.
Aside from a vague idea for his weapon (a sickle/scythe/sword thing), that's about all I've got. Comments?
I want to free the Yozis, so long as I can convince them to avoid provoking another Primordial War.
Really? How badly?
I'd like to hear about this.
You all know each other in person?
This sounds like a lot of fun.
Aww.
Roadie
A plate full of blins and a cat nearby.
That's missing a big part of the point. It's not just logistical difficulty, it's time lag for messages and visitations.
HoratioVonBecker
Imperfectly Aligned
Except, of course, for the Demon Summoning workaround.
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Roadie
A plate full of blins and a cat nearby.
Finding a bunch of sorcerers who can summon you up a demon army in one night is a substantially bigger challenge than the things it's a "workaround" for, so that doesn't bother me.