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NO. A single sniper bullet is enough. Repeat as needed(factoring threat level and actual necessity). Worst case scenario, drop some JDAMs or use AGTMs.

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RE Use of Force and Threat Escalation Levels:
First of all, there is the consideration of who handles the would-be threat actors and their level of danger(obligatory mugger to Yangban). The level of danger ()and it's specific nature determines the magnitude of response ad who handles the response.
Ignoring the obvious day to day threats(which are likely being handled by the local security team), we have the following groups that are likely involved in protecting Taylor:
(List is non-exhaustive)
  • NSA- COMINT and SIGINT. Likely will intercept attempts by known and potential threat actors to coordinate attacks/threats. Can be fooled by either not being targeted(Cauldron(needed, else Cauldron would have been picked up on)) and/or very high tier security(difficult, NSA likely backdoored a lot of netcom(eg HTTPS, SSL) standards).
  • Secret Service/US Marshall Service-Likely provides for the immediate protection group around Taylor, will get briefed by other authorities involved in the process.
  • US Military- Provides additional forces and higher end firepower
  • FBI/CIA- Will track down threats(domestic and foreign). Likely cues other on new threats. Also does fieldwork(deterrence and others).
  • Various QRF including Hostage rescue- Likely first response to any attack baring the local protection team or Taylor.
Possible Scenarios(Nonexhaustive list):
  • Local threat actor: Ranges from a random parahuman to Coil Dealt with at lowest level possible by local authorities(with an eye to following up on PRT response as needed). Escalate as needed
  • State Level: Anything like the Fallen(endbringer worshippers) Dealt with by a small operation if caught early(eg when said actors are planning an attack). Else there is the likely deployment of QRF groups that have been prepositioned.
  • Global/Highest level: Yangban to Cauldron Likely dealt with by the higher end forces(FBI/CIA/NSA/US military). At the minimum, the threat that they pose will be suppressed by these forces' efforts.
At no level should nukes be used unless explicitly necessary. Also, the groups assigned to Taylor's protection are not likely to act unless they have to. They want to keep Taylor secret as much as possible.
Removing riff-raff and secretly threatening local threats?
Doable and already done.
Immediately killing all of the high end villains like Lung and Hookwolf?
No. Doing so would create a dangerous power vacuum (making it hard to detect threats) and let loose more information about what is happening to BB.
 
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sdwood said:
Um, the snow is one of the few attractive things BB has going for it.
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Probably said by someone who doesn't have to shovel that shit. I'm expecting 2-4 inches Saturday night, while at work, where I get to clear the walks throughout the overnight shift, and then I get to go home to clear ours at least once.

Edit: At least I have a snowblower at home.
 
I also like the "redeemed" Lung concept and truthfully it is more interesting than a bullet to the head. The sex trafficking thing has been represented several ways in stories and there is little evidence that Lung has anything to do with it (other then not stopping it, if it is even happening) yes we have an interlude where some ABB gangers threaten Emma with it (unlikely, the US is a net importer of sex slaves, and it is much easier to control someone who is far from home and doesn't speak the language) and one of Wildbow's dubious WOGs on the matter. Any *fanfiction* author can, without overly disrupting canon, safely assume whatever is needed to make an interesting story work.

People might want to spend some time thinking about why you aren't advocating for Kaiser being summarily executed also because he is just as involved in *horrible* things as Lung is (maybe even more so, Lung is known to be lazy though how much of that is because the city isn't a cinder is up for debate) only he is a white guy in a nice suit for his day job. Seriously even the word "Thug" is a racially charged epithet (look it up). If you have no problems with how Kaiser was handled (a quick quiet threat) then why are you getting so pissed about Lung being handled in a similar manner?
 
Abacus said:
Because its' a wretched hive of scum and villainy that gets covered with snow every single year.
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IIRC, it actually has a ludicrously warm climate for its area. Which still means it gets covered with snow every single year, it just means it doesn't (usually) get covered with several feet of snow.
sdwood said:
Um, the snow is one of the few attractive things BB has going for it.
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Also that, yes.
(We had several inches of snowfall every day for the last week or so in Moscow and it was awesome. Admittedly the Moscow branch of my family doesn't have a car.)
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Presumably because it stopped (or caused) something a few years down the line. Remember: PTV is utter bullshit.
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The problem is that PTV is also canonically supposed to be incapable of dealing with triggers, which (if true) makes it highly unlikely that "making Kenta trigger" (and/or any consequences thereof) was the intended result of the operation in question. Which is weird, because it certainly seemed geared for that otherwise.
(It also suggests that whatever was the actual intended result was almost certainly ruined by Kenta's trigger. Poor Contessa.)

It's the same kind of problem as why did Jack Slash spend half a day of his time on tormenting a single random girl who just so happened to trigger with a power he really needed for his group. Though admittedly in that case it's at least slightly plausible that it was because his power could tell that it would turn out that way.
 
Bobot-Man said:
So Lung is incapable of being anything more than a rage dragon all the time? Got it.
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Lung is a massive criminal. Regardless of what he may or may not be capable of, what are you expecting? Blanket pardons for the mass murders, drug trafficking, human trafficking, prostitution, and property damage he and his gang have done up to that point? Because, even if he were amenable to turning it around and making he and his people a force for good, short of that he's still a known, notorious criminal.

Whether or not he's capable of being anything more than a rage dragon all the time, to *not* be one is to have to own up and face consequences for his myriad crimes. Which is something he would not stand for.

edit: It's the same issue that Purity has. She breaks off from the Nazis and wants to be an indie hero. Even if you ignore that she only targets minorities, she still did the crimes and doesn't want to own up to that, she just wants to be accepted as an indie hero and not have to own up to the crimes she did. And so nobody believes it or accepts it when the glowstick nazi who only targets minorities claims to be a hero.
 
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MirrimBlackfox said:
People might want to spend some time thinking about why you aren't advocating for Kaiser being summarily executed also
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I'm not advocating that because we weren't talking about Kaiser. If we were, I'd be advocating it at least as strongly, and probably more so, because he's a fucking Nazi.
january1may said:
The problem is that PTV is also canonically supposed to be incapable of dealing with triggers, which (if true) makes it highly unlikely that "making Kenta trigger" (and/or any consequences thereof) was the intended result of the operation in question.
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Yes, making Kenta trigger was absolutely not the point. Either the group as a whole would have done something, or one of the members. Or it would affect what the Yangban did in the future. Or there would have been some knock-on effect that resulted in a little girl being taught to clean by a man named Leon.

Say it with me, boys and girls: PTV is BULLSHIT!
 
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I regret ever posting on this thread. All I did was cause an argument. For that, I apologize.
 
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Bobot-Man said:
I do not know if it is canon or not, But Max is a poor Nazi because he does not believe in the bullbutter he is selling, he merely uses the Nazi ideology as a means to get power.


On a side note, I am also partial to Lung because there used to be a fanfic where the heroes were the villains and visa versa. Lung was head of the Protectorate.

Oh, and Armsmaster had an unkept beard and a very loud motorcycle.
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Ok, first, there's an edit button. Please use it, or do multi-response posts to start with.
Second, if it walks, talks, and commits racial violence like a Nazi, it's a Nazi. So what if Maxyboy isn't a True Believer? He acts like one and actively enables others.
 
january1may said:
It's the same kind of problem as why did Jack Slash spend half a day of his time on tormenting a single random girl who just so happened to trigger with a power he really needed for his group. Though admittedly in that case it's at least slightly plausible that it was because his power could tell that it would turn out that way.
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From what I understand he was torturing the parents for only a moderate amount of time when Riley triggered then he continued torturing them and forcing her to heal them then repeat for the rest of the time. So he only started focusing on them after the trigger.
Bobot-Man said:
I do not know if it is canon or not, But Max is a poor Nazi because he does not believe in the bullbutter he is selling, he merely uses the Nazi ideology as a means to get power.
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That just makes it worse.
 
Panaka said:
If they take Taylors gizmo far enough, does it turn into a Elite Dangerous style Frame Shift FTL drive?
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I actually had that thought while at work a couple days ago. FRIENDSHIP DRIVE ACTIVATED!

VirtualFox said:
*Lung steps on a gravity pad and gets launched into orbit*

Done.
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I actualy did some math on that at one point, and IIRC, you have to have around negative 30gs to pop someone upwards fast enough that he breaks the sound barrier after 1 second. Just a random factoid I thought rather amusing. ^^
 
CastleTrime said:
From what I understand he was torturing the parents for only a moderate amount of time when Riley triggered then he continued torturing them and forcing her to heal them then repeat for the rest of the time. So he only started focusing on them after the trigger.
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IIRC, he killed the parents in front of Riley. She triggered as they were dying, and started to heal them. Then, Jack kept (almost) killing them every time she fixed them until she gave up.
 
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Anyways(to avoid going ITG): Who do you think will try (inadvisably) attacking Gravtec or Taylor?
Merchants are an obvious group.
Coil?
Anyone else?

Also, how will Cauldron react to Gravtec and/or when the military takes down a parahuman(very likely given the arrogance of some potential suspects)?
 
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