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mp3.1415player said:
Ah.

Incorrect assumption.

A gravitational reference frame regenerator does what it says on the box. It makes a completely independent reference frame for local gravity.

This is not dependent on any other reference frame for gravity. At all.

It can be linked to such a thing, but does not require such linking. It's merely that doing so gives you a nice stable platform that's a fixed distance from some other reference point, like the center of the earth or whatever. The roof incident on the other hand was merely a minor error where Taylor set it to "Go that way at 2G acceleration" and omitted to put in a distance...

So it did exactly what she asked it to do... :)

Even for a supergenius, user error can be a thing.
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So it's unaffected by other sources of gravity? Makes sense, otherwise it would slowly drift towards the moon.

mp3.1415player said:
In theory anyone with a decent engineering background in suitable fields could probably take an existing bit of hardware and copy it at least, even if they don't understand the ins and outs of the theory behind it. That's kind of the point. There are an awful lot of people who can, for example, take apart something like a laser tube and work out enough of how it fucntions to make at least a basic copy. They don't necessarily require a Ph.D in optics, quantum mechanics, and electrical engineering, although that probably wouldn't hurt.

Designing the thing in the first place, though... 🤷‍♂️

There's a reason DARPA is rather fond of Taylor.
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This clearly means Taylor is one of the XCOM scientists. Can and will reverse engineer just about anything given an example, even a broken one, given a few days.
 
mp3.1415player said:
Much like you can't plant seeds from an apple and end up with a tree that grows the same apples, since the bit that makes the fruit is grafted onto the actual root stock.
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Ummm, you might want to verify this. While apple trees need another tree of the same species for cross pollination nearby, it shouldn't require anything grafted onto its root to grow an apple. Animals grabbing the fruit, eating it(including the not-easy-to-digest/breakdown seeds), and releasing the seeds in Natures plant food is the primary method for propagating itself.
 
Ferrite said:
Ummm, you might want to verify this. While apple trees need another tree of the same species for cross pollination nearby, it shouldn't require anything grafted onto its root to grow an apple. Animals grabbing the fruit, eating it(including the not-easy-to-digest/breakdown seeds), and releasing the seeds in Natures plant food is the primary method for propagating itself.
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Oh, you'll get apples if you plant apple seeds. What you generally won't get is the exact same apples you started with.

This is why it's a problem when a long established orchard is cut down. There's a decent chance that you're going to permanently lose a variety of apple that literally only grows in that one orchard.

Sandy River DL said:
And what if your problem was that you have lizards when you wanted botes? Or magical girls.
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You ask the lizards politely and they make you whatever you need. Including magical girls :)

Note: magical girls may have lizard bits... This is normal.
 
Huh. In researching apple growing(because our forum is at it's best when behaving as a MST3K episode), I just learned that the scion is the artificial part grafted onto the root. Anyone think that WB might have spent time working on an apple farm and the idea of a Scion being applied to an integral part of its host and thereby changing its state just tickled his fancy?
 
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mp3.1415player said:
In theory anyone with a decent engineering background in suitable fields could probably take an existing bit of hardware and copy it at least, even if they don't understand the ins and outs of the theory behind it. That's kind of the point. There are an awful lot of people who can, for example, take apart something like a laser tube and work out enough of how it fucntions to make at least a basic copy. They don't necessarily require a Ph.D in optics, quantum mechanics, and electrical engineering, although that probably wouldn't hurt.

Designing the thing in the first place, though... 🤷‍♂️

There's a reason DARPA is rather fond of Taylor.
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Well, that and they start feeling valued again - the change from standing there glumly as some idiot violates the laws of physics without any real understanding of what they are actually doing to being on a level footing because they've made massive advances and can now start to really Science again probably helps. There's nothing like being actually able to impress rather than being looked at as the sad cousin of the people with the Iron Man armour.

I do kind of wonder if DARPA will relocate to Brockton Bay lock, stock and barrel soon, though:

Aide: "Listen, Sir, I tried to explain that Virginia is warmer. Hell, I even offered NASA in Florida or JPL in California, she says she likes it up here."
General gives him a flat look, then sighs. "Okay, tell them to box everything up and move our people up here. 80% of our budget is being spent here anyway now, we may as well make it official and let everyone stop commuting."
Aide: "Well, property is cheaper up here than the Washington area, sir, so there's that."
General: "Because its' a wretched hive of scum and villainy that gets covered with snow every single year. Please don't try and make this sound better than it is."
Aide: "Just think of the Science, sir."
General: "Note to self, encourage her to create weather control."
 
There's a reasonably good chance that if you hit him quickly and hard before he has a chance to ramp up you can take him out easily. And even after that starts to happen, you still have a window of opportunity to deal with him before you have to nuke the place. After all, he was shut down in canon by insect bits, blunt force trauma, and heavy drugs. No reason to assume that an RPG to the chest wouldn't work when he's coming out of his house...
 
Sandy River DL said:
Uh, Lung can die just as easily as any non-Brute when he's not ramped up. .50BMG Mk211 would work just fine so long as you catch him unaware. Heck, it'd work for a bit even while he's changing.
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mp3.1415player said:
There's a reasonably good chance that if you hit him quickly and hard before he has a chance to ramp up you can take him out easily. And even after that starts to happen, you still have a window of opportunity to deal with him before you have to nuke the place. After all, he was shut down in canon by insect bits, blunt force trauma, and heavy drugs. No reason to assume that an RPG to the chest wouldn't work when he's coming out of his house...
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Basically why Lung's power is one I would have preferred not to have.

If anyone competent see you as a threat, that powerset basically says "you really have to assassinate me. Do it now."
 
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