... is it wrong that I want to see said plan?
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... is it wrong that I want to see said plan?
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- Beyond the Unknowable Veil
Classified, so yes.
I kinda wonder how high up the reports on Taylor are going. On the one hand, there's always the urge to secrecy to make sure no-one takes the new toy away from you, but on the other there is the urge to show off, especially when there's prizes for it. The PRT likely uses their heroes as showpieces there, so I imagine there's a fair chance the Pentagon wants to sidle up, nudge the President and say "We got us a genius and she makes shit straight out of comic books, but we can copy the plans and study her math so that our scientists can actually improve stuff. Wanna meet her and see our new invisible flying railgun tanks?"
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- Location
- Seattle, Washington, USA
So use the galactic core as your reference point. Not only is it moving faster than any planet in the Solar system, it's also going to be able to absorb a lot more pushes, if Newton's third law applies to the AG drive. The entire galaxy is inside that monster's gravity well.
It also works as a built-in fixed central point for a coordinate system for navigational purposes.
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Anybody who suggests that is probably demoted to the junior janitor in charge of the dirty public restrooms. They really don't want to let the PRT/Protectorate to see Taylor because while they know she's not a parahuman, most people wouldn't believe a 15 year old is that smart without jumping on the idea of 'powers!' and that's a can of worms they really don't want to open. They are very careful to make sure the PRT can't muscle in on this golden goose because they have spent twenty years having their resources poached and being insulted.
kelgar04
Knight Watcher
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- Here and no were
To add to this given how the PRT seems to leak like a rusty old sieve when it comes to secrets in the bay they will be fed a bare minimum at best and all infomation will be compartmentalised to hell and back within the DoD and DARPA and so black it makes a black hole look like a sun.
Adding to this anyone who gets caught on the outer ring of security and assuming they saw something will be arrestd and sent to the deepest darkest hole the US can find if they breach the inner ring though they will be met with lethal force. Then the org they belong to will be on DoD and the various US intelligence agencies shit list.
No one wants to be on that list and if you are on that list and your a goverment department then you get some rather angry people from on high looking down on you.
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- Tampere
PtV giving errors regarding actual Alien tech is sensible, as high-tech aliens exist in-universe and if PtV was not restricted in regards to their tech, it could simply uplift the planet to super-space age in a near guaranteed success manner. Not what the space whales want.
I also see that you decided that tinkertech is "badly built alientech" instead of random assortments of parts crumped together, effects supplied by the shard manipulating reality as normal. Which is not quite a "blackbox", as actual alien tech, even badly made could be dissasembled and reassembled and still work, unlike tinkertech. If Taylor succeeds in building a copy, without the tinker shard responsible for the base device sabotaging it, then tinkertech really is not blackboxed.
I also see that you decided that tinkertech is "badly built alientech" instead of random assortments of parts crumped together, effects supplied by the shard manipulating reality as normal. Which is not quite a "blackbox", as actual alien tech, even badly made could be dissasembled and reassembled and still work, unlike tinkertech. If Taylor succeeds in building a copy, without the tinker shard responsible for the base device sabotaging it, then tinkertech really is not blackboxed.
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I think it's more that Taylor looks at it and goes "hey, this shouldn't work — why is this block of cheese pretending to be a flux capacitor? Never mind, I've got a spare that I can use".
Essentially, she can see the inputs and outputs of the "blackboxed"/"shard-powered" components, and reverse engineer something to fulfil the same requirements via actual SCIENCE!
MWKillKenny84
Lurking from the Trauma Switch.
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- Vado Ligure
*KRA-KHA-THOOOM!*
Obligatory THE TECHNO QUEEN! *KRA-KHA-THOOOM!* meme is obligatory.
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- Germany
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- He/Him
As far as I remember(*), she LOOKED at Squealer's tinkertech cloaking device, derived the function from what she was seeing on the board, and came up with 'wow, that's inefficient, barely working'. She didn't have to do the input/output cycle for that piece of tech.
(*)which is the polite version of saying 'too lazy to look it up'
It's less the PRT, more the more senior defence staff. Certain people will have clearance to know, and there's only so much that can be hidden when huge budget numbers are floating around. Remember what the Pentagon really is - it's the worlds biggest office building, and it contains one of the world's biggest bureaucracies. Most of its' day-to-day may be secret, but most of the people there have some level of clearance, and at least some are ambitious enough to look for semi-legal routes to use it - help a patron get an inside lane on something, pay off a backer for past assistance, etc. Patronage games and politics still exist in the Pentagon, and even high level info on "DARPA has developed commercially viable superconductors" is huge. Even leaving that aside, if the Pentagon asks for more money, diversion of troops, the swinging of political and legal power to block others, the why will need to leave the building to some degree - "We have Antigrav tech" leads to "how do you have antigrav tech?" and a science advisor being asked to explain it to the President, etc. One of the reasons why things like faking the moon landing is so unbelievable is the sheer number of people who would need to keep it quiet is implausible. Hiding who Taylor is is one thing, hiding that there is someone like Taylor, however, is nearly impossible.
Taylor may end up with nicknames like "The Source" and "The Prime Asset", and she may be treated like Witsec and the CIA had a classified baby in terms of anonymising everything about her, but "We have something in our back pocket" is gonna slip out, even if the details are kept quiet, and there are certain people who can ask and the Pentagon doesn't get to say no to.
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- Deep in the Badlands of Equestria
Optionally, Squealer's Shard is a lazy SOB, and decided that with the exceedingly low quality of her supplies, it could let her build normal designs with no energy expenditures from its side, since the cheap materials would fail in short order anyway. Taylor getting a look at its work was an OCP issue. Oopsie!
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Andorxor
Masteryakthrower
- Location
- Right behind you
Do not forget that Taylors scanner can look further into the blackbox than nonTaylortech
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- Software
"Have you seen the equestria mod for Hearts of Iron 4?"
"No, is a good one?"
"Pretty awesome!"
"Let's play a bit in the office, then!"
And thus, the military plan to defend against the pony horde was born!
DoctorNobody
The Doctor is In(sane).
Sounds more Girl Genius, really.
Oh God, just wait till the aliens get to sociology lessons...
You seem to be forgetting that Armsmaster and Renick have already seen Taylor inside Gravtec running tests and doing work. I find it extremely unlikely that they won't put together "Exactly one fifteen year old in the building, running experiments" and "Gravtec has a supergenius".
They may not consider it likely at first, but they'll start paying attention to her.
Armsmaster is distracted by OOOH-Shiney!, and Renick is likely to assume she's an intern, or the kid of the boss (nepotism is a thing, even in high security govenment funded places) who managed to be reliable enough to do office work.
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- Somewhere, Maybe
Or they'll think "Danny's a good dad who takes his daughter to work sometimes when he can't get a babysitter."
The irony is that the Tinker worldview likely helps there. They know that DARPA wouldn't say "No Parahumans here" unless they were certain, and a fifteen year old? They could only pull this stuff off with a Parahuman power. It's basically "If you hear hoofprints, think horses, not Zebras" - most likely source of Antigrav is a Parahuman. Next most likely is some Professor finally making a breakthrough after decades of study. Then just some inventor that got lucky. Newbie polymath is statistically almost zero. They may be confused as to the why of her presence, but they aren't likely to make the jump to assuming she's running things. Although, ironically, as the number of inventions increases she becomes more plausible. Someone spitting out inventions like that is so implausible that they are outside the scope of normal probability - whoever it is just... is utterly abnormal, and at that point, why assume that any of the normal assumptions would apply?
Squealer's stuff might have been black-boxed. Taylor actually knew enough of the right sciences in order to understand what was going on and how to reverse engineer/improve it.
The point folks seem to be forgetting is that massive proof of her grav-tech that basically re-writes physics. If you don't know that stuff, anything built on it or far enough down that branch is effectively black-boxed. Taylor had another source for learning the actual science of what was going on. Now, it's more using it and seeing how that design isn't as effective using her better physics tools.
Taylor has a better basic science toolset to work with Tinker Tech. What was black-boxed for modern Earth, might merely be anywhere from difficult to trivial to understand. I doubt she'd be able to use it to reverse engineer everything. She's new at this and exploring the limits of what she knows and what she can figure out.
The point folks seem to be forgetting is that massive proof of her grav-tech that basically re-writes physics. If you don't know that stuff, anything built on it or far enough down that branch is effectively black-boxed. Taylor had another source for learning the actual science of what was going on. Now, it's more using it and seeing how that design isn't as effective using her better physics tools.
Taylor has a better basic science toolset to work with Tinker Tech. What was black-boxed for modern Earth, might merely be anywhere from difficult to trivial to understand. I doubt she'd be able to use it to reverse engineer everything. She's new at this and exploring the limits of what she knows and what she can figure out.
M. H. Fuzzball
Aperture Science-certified Horrible Person
- Location
- Sector 2814
But would open Gravtec up to PRT interference. Nobody wants Becky CB in the house.
cryptoam
building an 1980s encrypted protocol
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- in lockdown waiting and bored...
I just thought of something else in regards to military aircraft:
The gravitic drive completely obviates STOL craft. All aircrafts are VTOL capable. That is going to have some major impacts on all sorts of things.
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The gravitic drive completely obviates STOL craft. All aircrafts are VTOL capable. That is going to have some major impacts on all sorts of things.
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Also added a new section there as well.
Again, her work was going around the university before DARPA got involved. Just like the basics of her work will not remain secret, the PRT will put two and two together.
And then they'll discover they can't do a damned thing, because not only is she not a parahuman, but the military will kill them in their sleep if necessary.
Said threat will, of course, be delivered with a friendly smile. There's no reason to go making enemies, after all.