[DISCONTINUED] In the Beginning, There Was Man (WH40k x SC)

Ok @torrmercury question time

1. In your quest what exactly were the Xel Naga
2. How would the Eldar be integrated into the imperium
3. What kinda goodies were there in the STC's that we could have gotten?
4. Where did Zeratul go. To clear his mind I know but specifically.
5. Could we have replicated the Primarch project... properly this time.
6. Could we have gotten DA BEAST :D.
7. How powerful was da empra and Yneed on the Divine power scale?
8. Was there any really good tech you would have let us get near the end?
9. How strong would a child of Yneed and the empra have been?
10. Could we have made a 100km Ship :D
 
Wait, I thought the voice in the Darkness was Amon?
Nope, they're two different entities. Voice in the Darkness is more ancient than the Xel'Naga. Amon is the Dark Voice. Confusing, I know. I blame Blizzard trying to imitate Tolkien and his naming schemes. :V

What would've happened if we attempted to head back to Earth after the battle with Amon and the Voice? Like what was waiting for us there.
Earth has the UED, which you can probably ROFL-Stomp if you go after the battle with the Voice and Amon. If you go before, or without allies the UED is nearing Pre-Horus Heresy Imperium levels of tech with a 250ish world empire. Make of that what you will.

Ok @torrmercury question time

1. In your quest what exactly were the Xel Naga
Similar to the ancient Eldar where their souls will pass on to a new body once they die. But they go in biological cycles and need to renew their race using the Purity of Essence and Purity of Form combined. The Toss and Zerg have the potential to eventually become the new Xel'Naga.

I will also say that the Xel'Naga are NOT antagonistic, but they are also NOT unambigously good. If we go by D&D alignments, they would be True Neutral.

2. How would the Eldar be integrated into the imperium
I dunno. That would have been up to you guys.
3. What kinda goodies were there in the STC's that we could have gotten?
Plenty of things, but I wanted to focus on original research rather than STCs.
4. Where did Zeratul go. To clear his mind I know but specifically.
Have you read the Dark Templar novels? He goes to a planet with a pink/purple sky (I don't remember which) but it's unnamed.
5. Could we have replicated the Primarch project... properly this time.
Not enough time to do so before the battle with Amon/Voice, but afterwards yes you can.
6. Could we have gotten DA BEAST :D.
What's Da Beast?
7. How powerful was da empra and Yneed on the Divine power scale?
Depends on when you ask. As of the end of ItB they would be just above Daemon Princes, in the realm of lesser Eldar Gods. At the end of ItB's timeline, they have the potential to be more powerful than 2 or 3 of the Chaos Gods combined.
8. Was there any really good tech you would have let us get near the end?
Yes. :V
9. How strong would a child of Yneed and the empra have been?
Primarch or biological? Cause both would be absurdly strong but for different reasons.
10. Could we have made a 100km Ship :D
Yes. You can probably also make dyson spheres eventually.
My answers are in red.
 
"What's Da Beast?" @torrmercury

Size of a Hab block, Teeth the size of trees, built multiple war moons, Death stars, almost destroyed terra and the Imperium.

The closest Orks have ever come to being Krork again in the 40K verse, antagonist of the Beast Rises series.
 
Earth has the UED, which you can probably ROFL-Stomp if you go after the battle with the Voice and Amon. If you go before, or without allies the UED is nearing Pre-Horus Heresy Imperium levels of tech with a 250ish world empire. Make of that what you will.
Huh, I wonder if they were preparing for another go against the Zerg/Toss. A society like the UED can only really survive by having a foe to keep the populace in check by fear. That tech level is pretty nuts though, what was the craziest thing the UED military could field against anyone?

Primarch or biological? Cause both would be absurdly strong but for different reasons.
Oh wow, that means Adam could've naturally impregnated Ynnead? I suppose warp gods don't have to worry too much about biological constraints.

I have to ask, how powerful a god would that creature be after a 1,000 years? Also what would happen to Ynnead since she was carrying the embryo of such a creature?
 
Comments and questions?
I have a few:

1. Would Kerrigan have been a reliable ally, and if we had won, what would have been the future of the Zerg, or at least what was Kerrigan planning to do with them?
2. How hard would have been the integration of Korks and Orks into the Imperium?
3. What exactly was the deal with that memory erasing gene-seed?
4. What would have been the reactions of the Protoss, Raynor and Kerrigan to the Divine Sovereigns and the Primarchs?
 
Oh, and a decapitation strike won't work either because Amon has a ton of clone bodies that he can just take over and revive over and over again, hence the need to kill off all of his forces. :V

Yes. You can probably also make dyson spheres eventually.
Solid spheres or swarms?

The largest Ork Waaagh! in recorded history, also the name of its building-sized leader. As per the Beast Rises novel series they were essentially an organised army who fought like proper soldiers rather than in the usual Orky manner, and had all sorts of crazy shit like Subspace drives (FTL that wasn't dependent on the Warp) and Attack Moons (2000km long with planet-busting gravity whips and packed with absurd numbers of troops).
 
Infodump: Current trend for StarCraft and End game

Though I do have to ask, what exactly do you think would've happened in the end of the game if we continue along with our current course of actions? Also I don't suppose we can find out what you had planned for SC verse?

Assuming you made a good plan to diplomance the Protoss (you'd be at a -50 due to inherent Imperial xenophobia), you would be attacked by the Dominion at the neutral grounds. Raynor has a traitor in his ranks, and if you successfully help him purge the traitor, you'd be able to ally with both him and the Toss.

If you didn't diplomance the Toss, or failed at it, shots may or may not be fired with the Imperials probably shooting first. The Dominion would not have attacked at that point, and you will have started a cold war with the Protoss, kind of alienated Raynor, but neither faction will be out for your blood. They simply have too many other things to worry about, and the fact that you even came to talk first means to them that you're at least somewhat reasonable unlike the Dominion.

In any case, you'd have maybe 3 or 4 months to build up and prepare for the next clusterfuck, which would have been someone trying to assassinate Raynor (roll for survival), Zeratul (Survives regardless), Mengsk (Roll for survival), Artanis (roll for survival), and Kerrigan (survives regardless). Assuming Raynor survives, he would come to you for help for both himself and the Protoss (cause the Toss are too prideful to ask), and you'd have the option of ignoring or helping in varying measures.

Depending on how much you help, the situation would start to escalate (with you helping a lot escalating faster than if you don't help) until it's revealed that Amon has been revived far ahead of schedule. That agent that got away from the Ghost ship? Turns out he's not bluffing. :V He actually is one of the best of the best in terms of physical ability and mental acuity and he's accelerated many timelines due to the threat the Imperium poses.

A mix of Wings of Liberty and Heart of the Swarm then begins, with Kerrigan seeking out the Primal Zerg after the assassination attempt and Jim starting to look for the Xel'Naga artifact pieces and taking down Mengsk (or if Mengsk is dead, swooping in to create a new, more democratic government).

I don't have much more than that planned out due to how crazy the game can get and how much things can derail, but end game would have been an epic free for all between the Imperial Gods, Amon and Greater Hybrids, and the Voice in the Darkness. The Voice is by far the greater threat in the Warp, but Amon has an utterly massive army at his disposal, and even with the Terran and Protoss behind you, you'll be hard pressed to win. Hence, you need to get the Zerg behind you as well in order to kill off Amon's forces.

Oh, and a decapitation strike won't work either because Amon has a ton of clone bodies that he can just take over and revive over and over again, hence the need to kill off all of his forces. :V

I think that you guys would definitely have been able to achieve victory in Starcraft if you didn't do anymore stupid things like invading the Leviathan.

Comments and questions?

What would have Eldar looked like? Would cross breeding be a thing with humans?( because old lore seems to say that works)

How difficult would it have been to spread Imperial worship in the various possible settings?

Force sensitive space marines? Could that have been a thing in the star wars verse?

Eldar Space marine equivalents? Could Yneed do the same thing Adam did only for Eldar ?

could Gorehowl have created more kork given time and aid?

Storm troopers versus imperial guardsmen who would have win in a shoot out?

Sorry for all the questions. It's a shame to see the quest go it's the one that got me on this site in the first place.

Thanks for the memories
 
@torrmercury Since we are looking towards what if's and possible situations.

1. What exactly was going to happen to the Imperial/human remnants in 40k while we were gone? There were a lot of theories in the thread over what could've happened to them and what they could do to stay alive.
2. How powerful would the Nine Sons have been if they were working together?
3. Did we actually have a Man of Stone/Gold in the Exodus fleet?
4. How useful would researching SC minerals had been if we completely exhausted all avenues of research for it?
5. Were Aurora and Corvus every going to tie the knot and have a wedding?
6. What was Gorehowl's endgame?
 
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Count me in on the people who didn't realize there were two different Voices. @Wobulator, thanks for that link!

Assuming you made a good plan to diplomance the Protoss (you'd be at a -50 due to inherent Imperial xenophobia), you would be attacked by the Dominion at the neutral grounds.

I just realized that I alluded in-character to this very possibility in one of my omake. I guess it's a pretty obvious hazard, really.

That agent that got away from the Ghost ship? Turns out he's not bluffing. :V

*wince* And of course, the only people who know he got away think that he went back to the Dominion.

I don't have much more than that planned out due to how crazy the game can get and how much things can derail, but end game would have been an epic free for all between the Imperial Gods, Amon and Greater Hybrids, and the Voice in the Darkness. The Voice is by far the greater threat in the Warp, but Amon has an utterly massive army at his disposal, and even with the Terran and Protoss behind you, you'll be hard pressed to win. Hence, you need to get the Zerg behind you as well in order to kill off Amon's forces.

ACKTHP. Well, uh… if we start out with an epic handicap against diplomancing the Protoss, how much harder would it have been to ally even temporarily with the Zerg?


Other questions:

What would have happened when we found the Men of Stone/Silicon on the Ark? What are they, anyway?

If we'd won the three-way and settled down to rebuild and gradually expand in and around the Koprulu Sector, how would the UED have responded?

I'd like to second the queries about the Black Wards gene-seed. Who did that, and what would the gene-seed do?

If we expanded through most of the galaxy before the crusade home, would you have thrown in other aliens?

Someone pointed out that that Greater Demon of Change actually survived being eaten. Would that have made a comeback, or just withered away?

And I have to ask, what would a biological child of Adam and Ynnead be like? :D


I have a feeling I've forgotten something, but that's all the questions I think of right now.
Sometime today I'm going to watch more StarCraft and try to imagine various reactions to the Imperium. :V
 
Eldar Space marine equivalents? Could Yneed do the same thing Adam did only for Eldar ?
They have those, they're called Harlequins and can take a dozen Custodes at a time.:V

And my own questions.

1: What would the Zerg have done with the power weapon?
2: Would the Dominion pull out any new surprises based on our own tech?
3: What was the Black Ward gene-seed?
 
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He used :V-emote, so I'm pretty sure he was saying that jokingly.
I use it for not entirely serious/mocking posts.
That actually fucking happened. 2 fucking Harlequins vs several Custodes, the plot armor and NERF Cannon carried the Space Elves to victory over dozens before they got buried under pure number. FUcking BS.
Now you know what it's like for Eldar fans when they get arbitrarily rolled over by SMs despite having all the advantages in the world.:p
 
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