The Young Eagle - A Napoleon Quest

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Arguably we should be focusing on putting forth the values of the Jacobinist political tendency we are (presumably) trying to align ourselves with: if we want to paint ourselves as a Great Revolutionary Hero, skilled in matters of both war and peace, friend to the Martyr Robespierre, then we need to come with news that we ensured that the Sardinians enshrined Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity in their own constitution.
 
There is also the matter of the Republic's relations with France. After all, we brought them freedom, so it would not be a stupid idea to write down something about their eternal gratitude and a steady alliance.
 
When I have free time I'll throw my hat in the ring plan wise but in the meantime, the constitution should be revolutionary because of our politics but it should also be favourable to France most of all, we are patriots after all
 
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[] Constitution - Civil liberties:
[] Write in: Which rights such as freedom of the press or freedom of association should Sardinians enjoy, and to what extent?
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[] Constitution - Slavery:
[] Write in: Galley slavery is rare, but sometimes practiced, on Sardinia. Should this institution be outlawed? What should happen to the slaves?
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[] Constitution - The Status of Women:
[] Write in: What should the rights of women in the new republic be?
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I say at the minimum we should help with civil liberties and slavery, get them to adopt freedom of the press and speech since those two are crucial to a good democracy, being allowed to speak out, and try to get them to outlaw slavery period, if we were to do a third one I'd say getting women's rights would be good.
 
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I say at the minimum we should help with civil liberties and slavery, get them to adopt freedom of the press and speech since those two are crucial to a good democracy, being allowed to speak out, and try to get them to outlaw slavery period, if we were to do a third one I'd say getting women's rights would be good.
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I'd say we should also help out the Sons of Hellas and Judea after they supported us, we don't want a reputation for screwing over people who side with us when it's convenient.
 
[X] Politely decline: You've been in Sardinia too long. You wish your allies the best, but it's time to go home. (Don't take any of the constitution options if you pick this.)
 
[] Plan The Absolute Basics
-[] Constitution - Civil liberties:
--[] Write in: Guarantee the rights to freedom of speech, of assembly, the right to a fair trial and the right to equal treatment under the law. among others. Crib of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen generously.
-[] Constitution - The Coral Trade:
--[] Write in: Grant the monopoly and the business concessions as promised but with caveats. Make sure the government gets a fair tax from it so as not to cause future resentment.
-[] Keep the units intact on your return to France - with a new government in place, you never know where you might be sent. Not having to waste time levying a new force might be useful.

Just my contribution to the discussion. Don't know if this is final.

I'm of the opinion that the Coral Trade and Civil Liberties are the absolute bare minimum we should do if we decide to stay.

We need to take the Coral Trade to adhere to our promises with the Greeks and Jews. Now technically that was Desaix, but we should still keep his promises if only to keep him mollified. He's our only junior officer we can rely on right now and he did good work.

Edit: That said, Desaix didn't promise they don't get taxed. I'm of the opinion that without the Greeks and Jews seen to be contributing to the state, they're likely to lose that monopoly pretty fast once we leave.

Civil Liberties we should take because that basically sets the tone for everything else. Not sure about the write-in, but I thought Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen seemed like a good starting point. I wanted to find something Robespierre wrote but this was what I could find as fast as I could.

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Forgot to mention the last part of the plan. Chose to keep the units intact so we actually have troops to command that are proven in battle without having to recruit again.

Comments very much welcome.


As for other plans, if we're planning on staying, we shouldn't stay for more than two months. Any more than that and there won't be much of a campaigning season left before winter. France beckons.
 
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First time making a plan vote. But here I go! I'll try to explain my reasonings and go into a lot of detail.

[X] Plan: "Constitution Writing Is My Hobby, Good Sir."
-[X] Constitution - Sons of Hellas and Judea:
--[X] Write-in: Greeks and Jews are ratified as full legal citizens of the new Republic of Sardinia, with all that it implies. Including guaranteed liberties granted by the constitution, responsibilities expected of them as citizens such as taxes, voting, representation, service in the military etc. etc. The Greek and Jewish populations are to be civilians with the same rights, liberties, expectations and treatment as any other civilian.
-[X] Constitution - The Moors:
--[X] Write in: The Aristocracy is to be abolished, large portions of their fiefs which are unused are to be seized by the state and given in out to civilians living on those lands by lottery or allotment. Any land that cannot be given out will be property of the State and they can decide what to do with it from there. Either sell it to help with an early treasury, or develop it themselves. The Clergy is to have most of it's institutional powers abolished, such as the ability to tithe within their parish or diocese. Beginning a process of full separate from church and state.
-[X] Constitution - The Coral Trade:
--[X] Write in: Advocate for the monopoly, but also advocate that the government as apart of it's powers should have the power to regulate these monopolies and when decided by vote, have the ability to break them up if it is more beneficial to the economy of the newborn republic.
-[X] Constitution - The form of government:
--[X] Write in: Structured as a three institution system. Legislature, Judiciary and Executive. Legislature shall be a Unicameral house of elected representatives with each region being given seats based on proportion of population. Legislature shall be called The National Assembly. Judiciary will be a Tribunal of judges nominated by the Executive but approved upon by the Legislature. Executive shall be elected by national election with simple majority.
-[X] Constitution - Civil liberties:
--[X] Write in: Liberty, Equality, Fraternity. Try to spread the ideals of the revolution by seeding it's ideas in the nations newfound civil liberties. Right to free-speech, peaceful assembly, right of the press, to vote, right to property, right to work, most importantly a right to education as well, as a baseline.
-[X] Constitution - The Military:
--[X] Write in: An army for national defense should be established made up of Citizen Soldiers. It should be small, but professional, to man forts and defensive hardpoints and population centers of the island. Additionally, national militias will be founded where all men will undergo occasional training, so when times of dire need arise, the small professional army can be padded by these militias. The Sardinian Navy will be founded for coastal defense and defense of the islands vital trade. Military figures will be entirely answerable to the civil government, yet soldiers are citizens and have the rights as listed above, such as ability to vote. Military figures seeking civil office are required to resign from their military post upon winning the election.
-[X] Constitution - Slavery:
--[X] Write in: Total abolishment of slavery, slaves on the island are free, but will need to go through a process of applying for citizenship to ensure they understand what it means to be a citizen of Sardinia, the rights that follow, as well as the responsibilities and expectations.
-[X] Constitution - Religious Freedom:
--[X] Write in: Complete separation of Church and State. Citizens have the right to worship as they please. The state has no power to regulate or enforce a state religion, and it's institutions will act entirely as secular entities.
-[X] Constitution - Trade, Protectionism and The Economy:
--[X] The new Assembly should have the power to regulate trade as how they wish, however advocate for free trade and market to attract foreign capital and build up on the islands resources and economy before any of the more protectionist angles can be taken.
-[X] Keep the units intact on your return to France - with a new government in place, you never know where you might be sent. Not having to waste time levying a new force might be useful.

Alrighty! Hope I did it right. Thoughts?
 
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Kinda bummed out we didnt get to be President of the Sardinia Republic. I mean, we fought for it; it was our home and we could foster close ties to France. It would be quite the coup if napoleon didnt go to France. i like wacky alt-history quests, and france seems kind of boring to me. There are too many cooks in the kitchen and its already done to death Or we go to spain and become the president there and find our catholic roots but i think we should do everything we can for sardinia to be as stable as can be so take everything.

Edit: Would have liked a vote for it.
 
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My personal thinking:
[] Constitution - Sons of Hellas and Judea:
[] Write in: The legal status of Jews and Greeks in Sardinia
A citizen is a citizen with equal status,right and duty than any other citizen

[] Constitution - The Moors:
[] Write in: The status of the native aristocracy and clergy
A citizen is a citizen with equal status,right and duty than any other citizen,if they commited crimes,fair judgments,as long as it follow the law of the country reigion is no buisness of the states and vice versa

[] Constitution - The Coral Trade:
[] Write in: The status of the valuable coral trade and whether a monopoly is granted as promised
A promise is a promise,possibility to renegotiate in the future if the two part accept to do so


[] Constitution - Civil liberties:
[] Write in: Which rights such as freedom of the press or freedom of association should Sardinians enjoy, and to what extent?

[] Constitution - The Military:
[] Write in: Should a Sardinian military be created by the constitution, and how much power should it have?
proffesional voluntary army that do public work during time of peace,with possibility of conscription in national emergency time,a required military/civilian service during wich the person either join the army or a civil service such as firefighter,police,healtcare assistant,construction worker,etc

[] Constitution - The Status of Women:
[] Write in: What should the rights of women in the new republic be?
A citizen is a citizen with equal status,right and duty than any other citizen

[] Constitution - Slavery:
[] Write in: Galley slavery is rare, but sometimes practiced, on Sardinia. Should this institution be outlawed? What should happen to the slaves?
No slavery

[] Constitution - Poor Laws:
[] Write in: Should some sort of social safety net be instituted by the state?
Abolishion of debt jail,creating law that keep situation like "making illegal to be poor,punished to be poor" from happening,such as fine being based on your income instead of a fix amount that mean "legal for rich",and possibility to do community service to pay them

[] Constitution - Religious Freedom:
[] Write in: Should all religions be treated equally on Sardinia by law?
Yes,as long as it follow the law of the country religion is no buisness of the states and vice versa

[] Constitution - LGBT Laws:
[] Write in: Non-heterosexual sexual practices are illegal on Sardinia. Should this change?
Yes,A citizen is a citizen with equal status,right and duty than any other citizen,what two(or more) consenting people do between them is no buisness of the state(exept conflict of interest like a judge having an afair with a plaintif or stuff like that)

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--[] Write in: Complete separation of Church and State. Citizens have the right to worship as they please. The state has no power to regulate or enforce a state religion, and it's institutions will act entirely as secular entities.
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maybe there should be a thing abouth refulating religion that break national law and taxation ?
 
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aybe there should be a thing abouth refulating religion that break national law and taxation ?
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Covered under "The Moors" section of my proposal that specifies that the powers of the clergy are to be abolished. They are not to act as an institution with powers similar to the government, such as Catholic Bishops collecting tithe from their parishes and diocese. Their power to do so will be removed. Likewise, the governments institutions should be entirely secular, and will apply it's laws irrelevent of religion.

In other words, the government shouldn't tell you what to worship or how. It will tell you if what you're doing is illegal or not, and act accordingly to enforce the laws and liberties of the land, since there will be no such thing as "Religious Laws", there is equally no laws protecting members of a religion from persecution should they do something in the name of their religion that breaches the law.
 
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[X] Plan A Stable Sardinia
-[X] Constitution - Sons of Hellas and Judea:
--[X] Write in: The Greeks and Jews are given full status as citizens of Sardinia as well as protected minorities, with all the rights and obligations that entails.
-[X] Constitution - The Coral Trade:
--[X] Write in: Grant the monopoly and business concessions as agreed but with caveats. Make sure that the government is able to extract a tax from the trade in order to prevent future resentment. Make provisions for a renegotiation of the deal after a period of say 20 years, enough time for the new economy of the fledgling nation to take form.
-[X] Constitution - Civil liberties:
--[X] Write in: Guarantee the rights to freedom of speech, freedom of peaceful assembly, right of the press, the right to fair elections, the right to property, the right to work, the right to education, the right to a fair trial and due process and finally fair and equal treatment under the law
-[X] Constitution - The form of government:
--[X] Write in: Structured as a three institution system. Legislature, Judiciary and Executive. Legislature shall be a Unicameral house of elected representatives with each region being given seats based on proportion of population. The legislature shall be called The Sardinian People's Free National Assembly. Judiciary will be a Tribunal of judges nominated by the Executive but approved upon by the Legislature. Executive shall be elected by national election with simple majority. Grant the Greeks and Jews extra seats in recognition of their service to their adopted homeland. Propose a deal with the aristocracy for seats as well in exchange for a tax on their income and properties. The combined seats in total gained by the aristocracy should be in proportion to the ones given to the Greeks and Jews, and should never infringe on the majority of regular seats. The aristocratic seats can be contested in succeeding election cycles after the first one, the taxation remains in perpetuity. The idea behind doing so is to give these factions say in the future of the nation in return for past and future service.

A plan I think I'm happy with. Not as idealistic as the usual SV fare, but we have France to fix.

The idea for this plan is to create as stable a foundation for a nation as we can in the limited time we have to do it, while also keeping our promises. When we leave, the factions of the Sardinian Republic need to be made to work together. The aristocracy and the clergy still have teeth and there is a risk for civil war if we don't give them concessions. We're likely not to return to Sardinia, and we need to give the Republicans a fighting chance.

The coral trade is guaranteed to keep the Greeks and Jews happy as well as Desaix.

The Greeks and Jews also get citizenship and the status of protected minorites.

Chose to include as many civil liberties as I could think of. They're the backbone of the new Sardinia, and a good chance to show our commitment to the ideals of the revolution.

As for the form of government, credits to @Devildog for his write-up. It's pretty good though I did make some modifications. Gave the Greeks and Jews some seats for their protected minority status, so their interests in the new nation can be better represented. The aristocracy gets seats in exchange for being taxed. Most of the island's land is dominated by them and the clergy. My thinking is we give them this concession so that Sardinia can make some extra income while France is too busy right now to focus on trading with them, and the rest of Italy is still in the process of being shaped. That said I did include an addition saying that these seats are up for grabs after the foundation of the new Republic. I'm considering a slower, gradual change in demographics. If they want to keep the seats, they need to cozy up to their tenants. It also introduces future infighting between rival nobles for seats.

Edit: Chose to not deal with the clergy due to the extra two weeks as well as public sentiment in Sardinia. We don't really know how loyal the Sardinians are to their priests. It also opens up a whole can of worms with the Catholic Church. I'll leave the new Sardinia to deal with them. Plus, the idea behind getting the aristocracy to participate in the new nation means a whole lot of questions will be asked as to why the clergy aren't contributing.

All that for a two months stay in Sardinia. That lets us come back to France in August and three months to rally an army and deal with the Spanish before autumn ends. Maybe another month depending on when the snow starts.
 
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Kairos said:
[X] Plan A Stable Sardinia
-[X] Constitution - Sons of Hellas and Judea:
--[X] Write in: The Greeks and Jews are given full status as citizens of Sardinia as well as protected minorities, with all the rights and obligations that entails.
-[X] Constitution - The Coral Trade:
--[X] Write in: Grant the monopoly and business concessions as agreed but with caveats. Make sure that the government is able to extract a tax from the trade in order to prevent future resentment. Make provisions for a renegotiation of the deal after a period of say 20 years.
-[X] Constitution - Civil liberties:
--[X] Write in: Guarantee the rights to freedom of speech, freedom of peaceful assembly, right of the press, the right to fair elections, the right to property, the right to work, the right to education, the right to a fair trial and due process and finally fair and equal treatment under the law
-[X] Constitution - The form of government:
--[X] Write in: Structured as a three institution system. Legislature, Judiciary and Executive. Legislature shall be a Unicameral house of elected representatives with each region being given seats based on proportion of population. The egislature shall be called The All-Sardinian National Congress. Judiciary will be a Tribunal of judges nominated by the Executive but approved upon by the Legislature. Executive shall be elected by national election with simple majority. Grant the Greeks and Jews extra seats in recognition of their service to their adopted homeland. Propose a deal with the aristocracy for seats as well in exchange for a tax on their income and properties. The combined seats in total gained by the aristocracy should be in proportion to the ones given to the Greeks and Jews, and should never infringe on the majority of regular seats. The aristocratic seats can be contested in succeeding election cycles after the first one, the taxation remains in perpetuity. The idea behind doing so is to give these factions say in the future of the nation in return for past and future service.

A plan I think I'm happy with. Not as idealistic as the usual SV fare, but we have France to fix.

The idea for this plan is to create as stable a foundation for a nation as we can in the limited time we have to do it, while also keeping our promises. When we leave, the factions of the Sardinian Republic need to be made to work together. The aristocracy and the clergy still have teeth and there is a risk for civil war if we don't give them concessions. We're likely not to return to Sardinia, and we need to give the Republicans a fighting chance.

The coral trade is guaranteed to keep the Greeks and Jews happy as well as Desaix.

The Greeks and Jews also get citizenship and the status of protected minorites.

Chose to include as many civil liberties as I could think of. They're the backbone of the new Sardinia, and a good chance to show our adherence to the revolution.

As for the form of government, credits to @Devildog for his write-up. It's pretty good though I did make some modifications. Gave the Greeks and Jews some seats for their protected minority status, so their interests in the new nation can be better represented. The aristocracy gets seats in exchange for being taxed. Most of the island's land is dominated by them and the clergy. My thinking is we give them this concession so that Sardinia can make some extra income while France is too busy right now to focus on trading with them, and the rest of Italy is still in the process of being shaped. That said I did include an addition saying that these seats are up for grabs after the foundation of the new Republic. I'm considering a slower, gradual change in demographics. If they want to keep the seats, they need to cozy up to their tenants. It also introduces future infighting between rival nobles for seats.

Edit: Chose to not deal with the clergy due to the extra two weeks as well as public sentiment in Sardinia. We don't really know how loyal the Sardinians are to their priests. It also opens up a whole can of worms with the Catholic Church. I'll leave the new Sardinia to deal with them. Plus, the idea behind getting the aristocracy to participate in the new nation means a whole lot of questions will be asked as to why the clergy aren't contributing.

All that for a two months stay in Sardinia. That lets us come back to France in August and three months to rally an army and deal with the Spanish before autumn ends. Maybe another month depending on when the snow starts.
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I am not opposed to this. I went full Constitution Writer for this, but we're also on a time-table that isn't favorable for an extended holiday. So, getting the foundations down is good, if we can't go into full Nation-Building mode, and I think this'll be the best bet in terms of that.

Honesty as well, kudos for the Aristocracy idea, @Kairos. I was thinking more blunt instrument, but getting the Aristocracy into the assembly, with concessions and no guarantee that they can keep their seats sets up a really nice... Not trap, but foundation to gradually wither their influence away whilst keeping them invested in the Republic... Though, they aren't exactly blind or stupid, either, so maybe they'll see through it. Theres always a chance for the Aristocracy in the assembly to scheme to restore Piedmontese rule over the isle, and I've got no doubts theres a few who already are.

Edit: Still believe it'd be more apt to call the legislature an Assembly as well. If we wanna go for a more detailed name than The National Assembly, we can always go along the lines of "The Sardinian People's Free National Assembly" or "The National Assembly of the Free Republic of Sardinia."
 
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Devildog said:
Write in: The Aristocracy is to be abolished
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We can't do this entirely given the agreement we made with the Giunta in order for them to join the republic. Any of the nobles that weren't part of the Giunta are free game but those that are get to keep their land and titles.


Plan Fulfilling our Promises
Write in:
Preservation of their lands and titles (DC -50)
The Giunta join the Republic (+50)
 
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Though, they aren't exactly blind or stupid, either, so maybe they'll see through it. Theres always a chance for the Aristocracy in the assembly to scheme to restore Piedmontese rule over the isle, and I've got no doubts theres a few who already are.
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I expect them to act in their self-interest. While yes, they could try and take over the Island, but not without a costly civil war and the aftermath to deal with. They're too evenly matched with the Republicans right now, and the Sons of Hellas and Judea will probably side with Republicans ensuring naval dominance. If they get outside intervention, there's no telling what happens to their individual holdings. Not to mention the question of who gets to be in charge. There's also the trouble of waiting for that help to arrive.

In all likelihood they could approach the British, but they're definitely not going to give them as fair a deal. It's less of a disruption to their own livelihood to just go with the flow, even with the taxes.

At least this way, they're contributing to their homeland rather than some King on the mainland. And they get more of a say in the new Sardinia than the old one.

Edit: if they start trouble, we might not be able to support them while we're fighting in France, but Corsica is very near to provide support.

Devildog said:
Edit: Still believe it'd be more apt to call the legislature an Assembly as well. If we wanna go for a more detailed name than The National Assembly, we can always go along the lines of "The Sardinian People's Free National Assembly" or "The National Assembly of the Free Republic of Sardinia."
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Good idea. I'll add in the first one.
 
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Mishar said:
We can't do this entirely given the agreement we made with the Giunta in order for them to join the republic. Any of the nobles that weren't part of the Giunta are free game but those that are get to keep their land and titles.


Plan Fulfilling our Promises
Write in:
Preservation of their lands and titles (DC -50)
The Giunta join the Republic (+50)
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Well... that complicates my draft
 
Alexander Sturnn said:
I WOULD vote for this one...but it doesn't deal with Slavery.

Yeah, I know, not a HUGE issue on Sardinia, but it's something I just really want to get rid off definitively.
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My hope is that with a solid foundation of civil liberties, the Sardinians will come to their own conclusions about galley slavery.

Not to mention that the faction with the most reliance on maritime industry are the Sons of Hellas and Judea. I doubt they're going to be stupid enough to continue doing the practice in the future, not if they want a future on the island and their monopoly intact.

That said, feel free to modify my plan if you want to add it. I dont mind.
 
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Devildog said:
First time making a plan vote. But here I go! I'll try to explain my reasonings and go into a lot of detail.

[X] Plan: "Constitution Writing Is My Hobby, Good Sir."
-[X] Constitution - Sons of Hellas and Judea:
--[X] Write-in: Greeks and Jews are ratified as full legal citizens of the new Republic of Sardinia, with all that it implies. Including guaranteed liberties granted by the constitution, responsibilities expected of them as citizens such as taxes, voting, representation, service in the military etc. etc. The Greek and Jewish populations are to be civilians with the same rights, liberties, expectations and treatment as any other civilian.
-[X] Constitution - The Moors:
--[X] Write in: The Aristocracy is to be abolished, large portions of their fiefs which are unused are to be seized by the state and given in out to civilians living on those lands by lottery or allotment. Any land that cannot be given out will be property of the State and they can decide what to do with it from there. Either sell it to help with an early treasury, or develop it themselves. The Clergy is to have most of it's institutional powers abolished, such as the ability to tithe within their parish or diocese. Beginning a process of full separate from church and state.
-[X] Constitution - The Coral Trade:
--[X] Write in: Advocate for the monopoly, but also advocate that the government as apart of it's powers should have the power to regulate these monopolies and when decided by vote, have the ability to break them up if it is more beneficial to the economy of the newborn republic.
-[X] Constitution - The form of government:
--[X] Write in: Structured as a three institution system. Legislature, Judiciary and Executive. Legislature shall be a Unicameral house of elected representatives with each region being given seats based on proportion of population. Legislature shall be called The National Assembly. Judiciary will be a Tribunal of judges nominated by the Executive but approved upon by the Legislature. Executive shall be elected by national election with simple majority.
-[X] Constitution - Civil liberties:
--[X] Write in: Liberty, Equality, Fraternity. Try to spread the ideals of the revolution by seeding it's ideas in the nations newfound civil liberties. Right to free-speech, peaceful assembly, right of the press, to vote, right to property, right to work, most importantly a right to education as well, as a baseline.
-[X] Constitution - The Military:
--[X] Write in: An army for national defense should be established made up of Citizen Soldiers. It should be small, but professional, to man forts and defensive hardpoints and population centers of the island. Additionally, national militias will be founded where all men will undergo occasional training, so when times of dire need arise, the small professional army can be padded by these militias. The Sardinian Navy will be founded for coastal defense and defense of the islands vital trade. Military figures will be entirely answerable to the civil government, yet soldiers are citizens and have the rights as listed above, such as ability to vote. Military figures seeking civil office are required to resign from their military post upon winning the election.
-[X] Constitution - Slavery:
--[X] Write in: Total abolishment of slavery, slaves on the island are free, but will need to go through a process of applying for citizenship to ensure they understand what it means to be a citizen of Sardinia, the rights that follow, as well as the responsibilities and expectations.
-[X] Constitution - Religious Freedom:
--[X] Write in: Complete separation of Church and State. Citizens have the right to worship as they please. The state has no power to regulate or enforce a state religion, and it's institutions will act entirely as secular entities.
-[X] Constitution - Trade, Protectionism and The Economy:
--[X] The new Assembly should have the power to regulate trade as how they wish, however advocate for free trade and market to attract foreign capital and build up on the islands resources and economy before any of the more protectionist angles can be taken.
-[X] Keep the units intact on your return to France - with a new government in place, you never know where you might be sent. Not having to waste time levying a new force might be useful.

Alrighty! Hope I did it right. Thoughts?
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Sound amiable, only thing thatprevents me from supporting is that I personally think tackling more than 5 issues is a time sink. Five issues would mean 2 month and 9 days in Sardinia. I think that should be the absolute maximum we should stay on the island.
 
Bonapartist said:
Sound amiable, only thing thatprevents me from supporting is that I personally think tackling more than 5 issues is a time sink. Five issues would mean 2 month and 9 days in Sardinia. I think that should be the absolute maximum we should stay on the island.
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Fair enough! And feel free to cut the plan down if you wish, and amend it. Personally, I feel we gotta establish as firm a foundation on Sardinia as possible. but if it's got be cut down to five, I'd go with Hellas/Judea, Moors, Coral Trade, Form of Government and Civil Liberties.
 
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