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I meant, your version of the write-in. I legitimately liked the original version of it, which is why that's what I'm sticking to.
Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
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I meant, your version of the write-in. I legitimately liked the original version of it, which is why that's what I'm sticking to.
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Fanfiction Deep State
[X] Plan: Last Sale on Living Space
-[][General] Terraform x2
--[X] Nushar (22 billion, complete 960)
--[X] Ixcat (16 billion, complete 970)
--[X] Litra (15 billion, complete 970)
--[X] Ivuh (18 billion, complete 980)
-[X] Voxx Station & Freighter Infiltration. We already have a solid base of plants on the Voxx Station Defense stations, but that must be expanded and expended into the megafreighters that commonly dock there. We will use our existing network to bring more people into the stations, focusing on building a broader base of support in the megafreighters and getting individuals into key positions that are well-suited to sabotage or control of the stations defensive armaments. Special focus will be paid to the shield generators, with the hope that the Lamenters can carry out boarding actions to capture the stations wholly intact.
-[][General] Terraform x2
--[X] Nushar (22 billion, complete 960)
--[X] Ixcat (16 billion, complete 970)
--[X] Litra (15 billion, complete 970)
--[X] Ivuh (18 billion, complete 980)
-[X] Voxx Station & Freighter Infiltration. We already have a solid base of plants on the Voxx Station Defense stations, but that must be expanded and expended into the megafreighters that commonly dock there. We will use our existing network to bring more people into the stations, focusing on building a broader base of support in the megafreighters and getting individuals into key positions that are well-suited to sabotage or control of the stations defensive armaments. Special focus will be paid to the shield generators, with the hope that the Lamenters can carry out boarding actions to capture the stations wholly intact.
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[X] Plan: By Now, This Has Become A Terror
-[X] [Military] Fill Out Sector Battle Group
--[X] Minotaur (1/3)
-[X] Voxx Station Infiltration. We already have a solid base of plants on the Voxx Station Defense stations, but that must be expanded. We will use our existing network to bring more people into the stations, focusing on building a broader base of support and getting individuals into key positions that are well-suited to sabotage or control of the stations defensive armaments. Special focus will be paid to the shield generators, with the hope that the Lamenters can carry out boarding actions to capture the stations wholly intact.
-[X] [General] Terraform [Planet]
--[X] Nushar, Ivuh
-[X] [Military] Fill Out Sector Battle Group
--[X] Minotaur (1/3)
-[X] Voxx Station Infiltration. We already have a solid base of plants on the Voxx Station Defense stations, but that must be expanded. We will use our existing network to bring more people into the stations, focusing on building a broader base of support and getting individuals into key positions that are well-suited to sabotage or control of the stations defensive armaments. Special focus will be paid to the shield generators, with the hope that the Lamenters can carry out boarding actions to capture the stations wholly intact.
-[X] [General] Terraform [Planet]
--[X] Nushar, Ivuh
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To clarify, the assumptions in the version of the write-in are both obviously flawed but also... like, okay.
We have TWO more Additional Actions we need to do (before the Revolution, to extend the time as far as we can), and we have two things we really want to do: Infiltrate the Freighters and further infiltrate the Defense Stations.
That... seems like a match-made in heaven, not something to half-ass both of them out of sheer impatience.
We have TWO more Additional Actions we need to do (before the Revolution, to extend the time as far as we can), and we have two things we really want to do: Infiltrate the Freighters and further infiltrate the Defense Stations.
That... seems like a match-made in heaven, not something to half-ass both of them out of sheer impatience.
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Can we please do the actions that increase Action efficient first, we don't need to start build SBGs yet.
We can wait two turns and will have enough time to build at least two if want even three SBGs.
We can wait two turns and will have enough time to build at least two if want even three SBGs.
I do not think there is time for more terraforming we got in the worst case 5 turns left and need to fit in:
5 Actions building SBG's
5 actions for building the evacuation fleet
2 actions for infiltrating
1 to study the battle wreckage
2 to build the SAG's needed
leaving 0 actions
5 Actions building SBG's
5 actions for building the evacuation fleet
2 actions for infiltrating
1 to study the battle wreckage
2 to build the SAG's needed
leaving 0 actions
Is it half-assing? We've got the propaganda office, we've got a bunch of assets in place already and we're good at this stuff. I was hoping that HeroCooky would jump in and tell me if it was feasible or not before the vote, but we didn't get that, so now I'm hoping they'll get to it before the vote closes. I'd love to save an action here if we could.
[X] Plan Terraforming Industry Efficiency and Station Infiltration
[X] Plan: Last Sale on Living Space
-[X] [General] Terraform x2
--[X] Nushar (22 billion, complete 960)
--[X] Ixcat (16 billion, complete 970)
--[X] Litra (15 billion, complete 970)
--[X] Ivuh (18 billion, complete 980)
-[X] Voxx Station & Freighter Infiltration. We already have a solid base of plants on the Voxx Station Defense stations, but that must be expanded and expended into the megafreighters that commonly dock there. We will use our existing network to bring more people into the stations, focusing on building a broader base of support in the megafreighters and getting individuals into key positions that are well-suited to sabotage or control of the stations defensive armaments. Special focus will be paid to the shield generators, with the hope that the Lamenters can carry out boarding actions to capture the stations wholly intact.
That being said, I'm honestly happy if any of the current plans win. Except the logistics-upgraded ground forces, since I think that locks in effectively all of our upcoming actions on other things. And The Laurent's plan is likely to win regardless given historical trends.
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[X] Plan: By Now, This Has Become A Terror
-[X] [Military] Fill Out Sector Battle Group
--[X] Minotaur (1/3)
-[X] Voxx Station Infiltration. We already have a solid base of plants on the Voxx Station Defense stations, but that must be expanded. We will use our existing network to bring more people into the stations, focusing on building a broader base of support and getting individuals into key positions that are well-suited to sabotage or control of the stations defensive armaments. Special focus will be paid to the shield generators, with the hope that the Lamenters can carry out boarding actions to capture the stations wholly intact.
-[X] [General] Terraform [Planet]
--[X] Nushar, Ivuh
-[X] [Military] Fill Out Sector Battle Group
--[X] Minotaur (1/3)
-[X] Voxx Station Infiltration. We already have a solid base of plants on the Voxx Station Defense stations, but that must be expanded. We will use our existing network to bring more people into the stations, focusing on building a broader base of support and getting individuals into key positions that are well-suited to sabotage or control of the stations defensive armaments. Special focus will be paid to the shield generators, with the hope that the Lamenters can carry out boarding actions to capture the stations wholly intact.
-[X] [General] Terraform [Planet]
--[X] Nushar, Ivuh
It will get us one more turn, giving more time for the existing terraforming to complete, see HeroCooky anwser to the Laurent question:
Remind me, did HeroCooky say that the Logistical/Cheaper Infantry stuff would count as an Additional Action for the Hive Infiltration? I think I remember something about that, but I cannot find it.
Based on the answer above i would suggest doing this as it will count as an action for voxx so pushes the clock back a turn and i suspect that this will increase the amount of SAG's we get per action
It will also add 0.2 to banked research(0.4 per action gained 1 spend) allowing us to do two researches for one action next turn.
And i hope to use the banked research to do:
Free Duchy Shipwreck And Battle Studies with a action
and then
-[] Sophont Workforce Requirement Reduction Considerations
with the free one
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I mean, among other things it's half-assed to the extent that instead of doing two things as two actions, getting 1/3rd of our Polities entire focus each time... we'd be trying to do two things as one action, getting 1/3rd of our Polities' entire focus one time.
HeroCooky
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Feasible but diluted. Would take another Action to finish. (Like doing them separatly would.)
It will count for pushing back Voxx - but so would the action that infiltrates the defense stations. So all of our plans should push back the Voxx timer. More importantly, it doesn't add any new terraformed worlds. We're almost there but not quite. Just a few more will actually get us the space we need. The four in my plan mean that by the time Maphara finishes we will actually be able to depopulate Voxx without crushing ourselves by either:
1. Leaving 50 billion on Voxx and taking a 5-8 hit in most Infastructure.
2. Importing 2 billion to each of our 32 worlds and suffering a full generation of extreme unrest.
3. Needing to spend 9-12 actions on building void stations.
Ah. There we go. So basically doesn't matter which we do. One action each, or two actions on them both together.
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...that plan isn't bad, though it's honestly a really big gamble. If the Sophont Workforce doesn't do .5 progress on each of the two, then it's functionally a wasted action when we can afford basically no wasted action.
And it feels like FAR more of a gamble. At the same time, it is sort of tempting...
Eh, I guess I'm fine with either? If this does wind up not having big enough improvements, we are gonna have to basically sprint to the finish line to make it.
[X] Plan Terraforming Industry Efficiency and Station Infiltration
[X] Plan: By Now, This Has Become A Terror
-[X] [Military] Fill Out Sector Battle Group
--[X] Minotaur (1/3)
-[X] Voxx Station Infiltration. We already have a solid base of plants on the Voxx Station Defense stations, but that must be expanded. We will use our existing network to bring more people into the stations, focusing on building a broader base of support and getting individuals into key positions that are well-suited to sabotage or control of the stations defensive armaments. Special focus will be paid to the shield generators, with the hope that the Lamenters can carry out boarding actions to capture the stations wholly intact.
-[X] [General] Terraform [Planet]
--[X] Nushar, Ivuh
And it feels like FAR more of a gamble. At the same time, it is sort of tempting...
Eh, I guess I'm fine with either? If this does wind up not having big enough improvements, we are gonna have to basically sprint to the finish line to make it.
[X] Plan Terraforming Industry Efficiency and Station Infiltration
[X] Plan: By Now, This Has Become A Terror
-[X] [Military] Fill Out Sector Battle Group
--[X] Minotaur (1/3)
-[X] Voxx Station Infiltration. We already have a solid base of plants on the Voxx Station Defense stations, but that must be expanded. We will use our existing network to bring more people into the stations, focusing on building a broader base of support and getting individuals into key positions that are well-suited to sabotage or control of the stations defensive armaments. Special focus will be paid to the shield generators, with the hope that the Lamenters can carry out boarding actions to capture the stations wholly intact.
-[X] [General] Terraform [Planet]
--[X] Nushar, Ivuh
I can see how better weapons would lead to us being able to fight off the current voxx rulers but the station infiltration would help after the revolt begun as we are not planning on attacking those before it starts so i do not see how that could delay our detectoin
Ok I'm confused at what we get at different Void Industry levels, there seem to be different quotes supporting different things.
So whats the deal?
Also, I'm trying to figure out boarding vs infiltrating actions and what our options are. I thought we had some old imperial boarding ships but its just the Lamenters and Leos.
@HeroCooky
1. Can our Chameleons be used to surprise board the Mass Conveyor freighters as part of a Military action?
2. Are our regular fleet ships capable of boarding the Mass Conveyors while keeping them fully functional?
3. If we ask 1 Lamenter ship to act as the boarder and assisted with our other forces, can we do that as part of the invade Voxx Military action without impeding the rest of the invasion?
4. If we use an action to infiltrate the Mass Conveyors, do we still have to have specialized ships arranged to board them? Could the infiltrators allow the Chameleons to dock/board?
@Neablis sidenote on the Camelolepardis
From this semi-recent discussion I thought it settled on we got Grand Cruisers at VI 12 (XII).
Cooky seems to confirm that here, all is good.[Alectai said: Wasn't GC supposed to be VI 12?]
Yep, forgot that.
Meanwhile apparently I forgot we already hit VI 12 since that trait will bring us back to it. So we should already have unlocked Grand Cruisers?
I take it that is XVII / 17, so no we don't get Grand Cruisers but now we have these two quotes contradicting each other.
So whats the deal?
Also, I'm trying to figure out boarding vs infiltrating actions and what our options are. I thought we had some old imperial boarding ships but its just the Lamenters and Leos.
@HeroCooky
1. Can our Chameleons be used to surprise board the Mass Conveyor freighters as part of a Military action?
2. Are our regular fleet ships capable of boarding the Mass Conveyors while keeping them fully functional?
3. If we ask 1 Lamenter ship to act as the boarder and assisted with our other forces, can we do that as part of the invade Voxx Military action without impeding the rest of the invasion?
4. If we use an action to infiltrate the Mass Conveyors, do we still have to have specialized ships arranged to board them? Could the infiltrators allow the Chameleons to dock/board?
@Neablis sidenote on the Camelolepardis
I think the Camelolepardis needs work. Maybe I'm missing something on how boarding works.
It can't break shields so it can't actually start boarding, so it needs an escort to bring down shields. That means the stealth is bypassed.
It needs to stick around in close range to do the boarding so its Emergency Warp is very situational, and since it is minimum size and has low defences its fragile. Also if it warps away after boarding is finished the hijacked ship can't follow. Emergency Warp is too expensive and mainly useful if discovered early and the ship doesn't need to follow through with its job anyway.
I think its trying to be too good at too many things. I would drop Emerg Warp and Ghosts to build tankiness and a shield breaker weapon. Ramming maybe unless that does too much damage? Maybe switch the stealth to Zero-Emmision Protocols since it only needs it on the approach.
Could also be my Warhammer knowledge is lacking and my reasoning is off here.
It can't break shields so it can't actually start boarding, so it needs an escort to bring down shields. That means the stealth is bypassed.
It needs to stick around in close range to do the boarding so its Emergency Warp is very situational, and since it is minimum size and has low defences its fragile. Also if it warps away after boarding is finished the hijacked ship can't follow. Emergency Warp is too expensive and mainly useful if discovered early and the ship doesn't need to follow through with its job anyway.
I think its trying to be too good at too many things. I would drop Emerg Warp and Ghosts to build tankiness and a shield breaker weapon. Ramming maybe unless that does too much damage? Maybe switch the stealth to Zero-Emmision Protocols since it only needs it on the approach.
Could also be my Warhammer knowledge is lacking and my reasoning is off here.
[X] Plan: By Now, This Has Become A Terror
HeroCooky
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I deleted the note where I had written down when X class gets unlocked, so I went off of memory there. So...Void 13 for Grand Cruiser.
1. Yes.ShakeyDog said:
2. Fully depends on what the captains and crew of the ships decide to do in response to being boarded en-mass.
3. How should I know? You haven't even written down any military goals beyond "Get stations, invade, fuck off with the people." (Simplified)
4. You don't know. Probably?
That is only needed when using Teleportariums. Boarding pods/craft ignore void shields.ShakeyDog said:
And with that; Night!