Oh I think tri is right on this one.
Revy's suit right now is post iron man 3/ultron level suit plus mass effect tech kind of ridiculous.
the legionaries we originally sold are iron man 1 silver prototype- war machine base.
The suits that paragon mercs use are essentially late iron man one early iron man 2 due to direct access to paragon tech.
Again all of them have access to high levels of mass effect tech and probbably higher levels of material sciences.
No one is using iron monger or built in a cave with scraps here.
To clarify even though the very first prototype suit was made in a cave with scraps it was still insanely advanced. That said the design that were built upon the original were the same except built using better tools, materials and refinement. Still short of Mark 2 though.
this whole time I imagine revy with movie iron monger armor in cave, then skip movie silver and straight to movie red and gold version at end of iron man one, since she had much more time and resources to use, as according to wiki the movie MKII is the silver suit, while the red suit is the movie mark 3 which was basically the same except that it had weapons and fixed the freezing problem. hence why I keep getting confused since you guys keep saying you need the mkII but you have that already since the beginning and had essentially the movie MK 3 the whole time.
You have a suit with a arc reactor, can fly with repulsors, weapons, and shields and can support VI's on its hardware. I always felt like you were getting to hung up on the MOVIE's naming of Mark ones, twos, and threes, instead of what your character IC had in quest already.
this is the movie prototype suit bovine, the red and gold is made immediately after finding out the freezing problem after the test flight
edit: is what I am saying making any sense or am I just crazy and wildly misinterpreted what the voter base has been believing for years?
Okay now I see the issue. To absolutely clarify things this was the Mark 1 series or legionary model according to the previous QMs: Here. Even the wiki calls it the Mark 1. Something to take into account that I believe was brought up by previous QMs is that despite having Tony Stark's smarts Revy lacked the experience and knowledge needed to go straight ahead with Mark 2 unlike MCU Tony who also had the help of a highly advanced AI at the time. Revy when she made the Mark 1 was fifteen and hadn't even gotten her more advanced learning yet. So makes sense that she needed to make more refined versions of the Mk1s before being able to move on to the next gen with the Mark 2s.
I think that to make a further distinction the very first MK1 model was the prototype model that was made in a cave and scraps with the more advanced/later version of MK1 AKA Mk1.5 being made with proper tools, facilities and materials thus the mass production model.
The MK2 AKA Centurion would be the iconic MK2 armor including the silver prototype version that would be passed down to Warmachine.
Yeah, I thought we were dealing with the Iron Monger suit but slimmed down due to incorporating Mass Effect tech. Like not as big as the one in the movie but nowhere near as streamlined as the movie's Mk II.
Edit: The actual Iron Monger suit is actually more of a mech. I guess in my head it might have looked like a fallout style power armor? or perhaps a starcraft colonial marine armor?
To clarify even though the very first prototype suit was made in a cave with scraps it was still insanely advanced. That said the design that were built upon the original were the same except built using better tools, materials and refinement. Still short of Mark 2 though.
Okay now I see the issue. To absolutely clarify things this was the Mark 1 series or legionary model according to the previous QMs: Here. Even the wiki calls it the Mark 1. Something to take into account that I believe was brought up by previous QMs is that despite having Tony Stark's smarts Revy lacked the experience and knowledge needed to go straight ahead with Mark 2 unlike MCU Tony who also had the help of a highly advanced AI at the time. Revy when she made the Mark 1 was fifteen and hadn't even gotten her more advanced learning yet. So makes sense that she needed to make more refined versions of the Mk1s before being able to move on to the next gen with the Mark 2s.
I think that to make a further distinction the very first MK1 model was the prototype model that was made in a cave and scraps with the more advanced/later version of MK1 AKA Mk1.5 being made with proper tools, facilities and materials thus the mass production model.
The MK2 AKA Centurion would be the iconic MK2 armor including the silver prototype version that would be passed down to Warmachine.
it does clear things up, but I need one more clarification, according to you what is the difference between the MKI Legionary and the MKIII that Tony Stark made?
edit: sorry put down the wrong thing to be compared to.
Off the top of my head I think our legionary was before superalloys (which may have been introduced in the 1.5), and I don't think it was fully space capable. Or at least not meant for extended usage outside atmosphere.
it does clear things up, but I need one more clarification, according to you what is the difference between the MKI Legionary and the MKIII that Tony Stark made?
edit: sorry put down the wrong thing to be compared to.
As I mentioned along with overall performance in every area I'd once again vastly improved maneuverability and mobility. That along with probably being able to more easily replace damaged sections.
I'd suggest watching the cave escape scene with the Mark 1 in Iron Man 1 and then watching the Mark 2 vs the terrorists scene in the same movie to get an idea of the performance differences. You can just go on youtube for the clips.
As I mentioned along with overall performance in every area I'd once again vastly improved maneuverability and mobility. That along with probably being able to more easily replace damaged sections.
I'd suggest watching the cave escape scene with the Mark 1 in Iron Man 1 and then watching the Mark 2 vs the terrorists scene in the same movie to get an idea of the performance differences. You can just go on youtube for the clips.
bit confused about that improved mobility bit since the Legionary had the repulsors for movement and flight like in the MCU MKIII that Revy showed off in the competition unless I am remembering it wrong
there was no MKII (silver) against terrorists, are you talking about the MKII (red and gold)?
bit confused about that improved mobility bit since the Legionary had the repulsors for movement and flight like in the MCU MKIII that Revy showed off in the competition unless I am remembering it wrong
I think a good comparison would be comparing a civilian passenger jet and a modern military jet fighter in how maneuverable they are. They can both fly but one is better than the other at it due to it being built for combat.
Ok think I got it cleared up, so gotta clear the air about something, you DO NOT follow MCU Tony's tech tree, not really, you just have it available as an option, just because Tony Stark made armor suits in a particular order of creation, does not mean you will do the same. Just because he created something does not mean you will. Your superpower was NEVER Tony Stark tech, it was always Tony Stark Level Super Genius. Remember who else is on that kind of level? Mr Fantastic and Dr Doom. Could have changed your super power name at the beginning to one of those two and it would still be equally valid with the only caveat being you did not start with a arc reactor unlocked due to it not being thematic. You could be building Doom Bots and Super Suits and it would still be fine. There is no real set order to your genius. Just because the next level in suits in MCU was the MKII and MKIII does not mean you have to progress the same rate. Tony Stark was making a new armor mark every week on average. He was Iron Man for 8 years with most of his focus being on his own suit and tech while rest of his time was fighting people as Iron Man. Revy has been working for about 5.5 years and has been focused on non Iron Man Suit tech, her business, and spreading herself around, but still made tech that could be incorporated into her suit.
You have had SIGNIFICANTLY more time than Tony to work on stuff not focused on your suit. Your MKII project was essentially just you putting everything you had together and improving on what you could. Your suit is the equivalent of Tony's MKVII at minimum since it can also work in space, have melee weapons, omnitools, eezo, and kinetic barriers, and more.
Just because you made a MCU mark 2, does not mean the next will be the mark 3. The marks were benchmarks of Tony's ever growing skill with Iron Man suits and most of them were just experiments and prototypes of various concepts. You have many tech he did not, you have had time to experiment and simulate things without needing to create a whole armor just to test the ideas. You essentially are skipping entire groups of marks because you did not need to take it step by step to see what worked. You have much better tools and resources than Tony and more TIME.
This is apparently your legionary armor according to past QMs
This is NOT your Centurion/MKII armor says me
THIS is more of what I see YOUR MKII looking like, as it would allow Revy to survive what she expects to face and to fit all her tech. Bigger, bulkier, but not hampered in the slightest.
I hope this gets my position clear and what I have been seeing in my mind as I have been writing these updates, and would like to hear your own opinions about this.
So will be figuring out a price and production cost of your MKII for general sales.
I like the design... but. I always thought that when/if Revy ever got around to designing/building the MkII, there would two to three models. One Mass Production type, made to be sold to the SA. One Limited Production type, made to be used by our own in house security and ParSec. And finally, a custom built suit tailored to her needs specifically, does that make sense?
I like the design... but. I always thought that when/if Revy ever got around to designing/building the MkII, there would two to three models. One Mass Production type, made to be sold to the SA. One Limited Production type, made to be used by our own in house security and ParSec. And finally, a custom built suit tailored to her needs specifically, does that make sense?
those details will be left up to you, write in on what you want those MP models to have and what would those limited would have to be better, yet they would both still be lesser than yours whose details I already gave last result update. Up to you guys to determine how much to dumb your stuff down by for ze plebs~
That leaves us with 43,014.59 Production left over that I think we can just allocate to the Systems Alliance to order what they want. Whether it be 215,072 Soldier Sets, 28,676 Legionaries, 107 Jacks or some combination of them or more.
Huh, are we allowed to just, figuratively speaking, hand over a lump of production to the SA and allow them to build whatever infantry stuff they want with it?
I'm also taking advantage of the massive orbital space around Mindoir by building a Small Space Station as far out as possible; once that is finished (ETA 2175-Q4) we can build a Lab III (ETA 2176-Q2) and finally research Total Internal Reflection. This is as far as we can do this sadly since Small is the smallest that can hold a Lab III.
Was going to mention that we do have a space station already under construction... but it's a large heavily-armed one in a normal orbit that won't even finish before a new small one. Ugh, wish we noticed this requirement sooner *sigh*
So Hwan is able to research programming techs at the same efficiency as weapon tech? That... doesn't make sense. @tri2 Can named researchers really just throw their max rank RP at any research project (assuming they meet prereqs)? That gives us insane flexibility, but doesn't sound right.
So Hwan is able to research programming techs at the same efficiency as weapon tech? That... doesn't make sense. @tri2 Can named researchers really just throw their max rank RP at any research project (assuming they meet prereqs)? That gives us insane flexibility, but doesn't sound right.
Honestly was just too much of a hassle for both me and you to keep track of individual skill RP generation IMO, so just made it so highest RP gen applies, just think IC they smart enough to macgyver help around the assistants enough to make progress with Revy chipping in digitally from time to time to fix and finish up.
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[] MP MKII armor design
[] Limited MKII armor design
[] Both
reference top armor/revy's armor
Revy was in her personal workshop as she typed rapidly on her computer, lines and lines of codes flew across the screen like rushing water as she updated and rewrote sections of her VI's programming with her new programming language and tricks that she learned over the years. Behind her a large holographic representation of a suit of armor resembling a Legionary except far more slim and advanced floated in the air, periodically exploding into its constitution parts before reassembling with another layer of armor being added on top.
Under her Revy could imagine the lines of compacted assembly lines creating the various parts of her new suit, designed from the ground up to be stronger, tougher, faster than her old one in everyway possible. The best materials for the armors and sub systems, the best programming and software she could make. The most advanced and experimental technological features she could think of, and a MKIII Arc Reactor sitting beside her just waiting to be installed in the suit. All of which designed to be modular in nature for rapid replacement and upgrades.
Her armor would be tough enough to survive getting rammed and hot by tanks without issue with any kinetic force being absorbed and redirected by a layer of metagel that would extend the impact time immensely allowing the energy to bleed off. Said layer would also work as a temperature regulator to prevent overheating from the various systems and environmental factors from affecting her. It would also have multiple shield layers strong enough to withstand a truly cataclysmic amount of punishment as long as the power conduits did not melt first. The suit's power armor status would not be neglected as one of her most dangerous yet powerful feature was designed and integrated into her suit. A layer of piezoelectric liquid crystal that would react to electricity. It would allow for an amplification for everything, strength, speed, agility, and reaction time. If her body had not undergone the Peak Humanity Treatment she would not dare risk designing such a feature as one wrong move would instantly translate into a bone breaking action that would result in a cascade of over compensated movement that would kill a baseline human. The reaction time boost would be on top of the boost given by a neural interface installed in the suit that would link up with her own ANI system which would shorten her already biologically shortened reaction time even more. She was pretty sure that she could theoretically catch some shots fired at her if she wanted to. The suit would turn her from peak human to a superhuman being capable of possibly flipping over tanks, run as fast as a cheetah, and tank anti heavy vehicle fire all while moving like a monkey in a jungle. That was just its base physical features as well.
Her suit would also be able to compact down to the size of a suitcase for ease of carrying or even self propel themselves with repulsors to assemble themselves around her if needed, though she would need Cortana's help to manage that. It would be capable of travelling from the void of space to the bottom of the ocean with no problems at speeds that would leave fighters in the dust. Her repulsors were upgraded to the point that they were effectively anti tank weapons in her hands, feet, knees, elbows, and back. Though they could be dialed back to the point they would only knock people around without killing. The forearms had integrated miniguns with dedicated omnifabbers to handle ammo requirements, and the shoulders had the same for the array of missile launchers hidden within. In addition, there was a automated medigel dispenser that would allow for automated medical treatment. There were also a variety of other weapons and tools secreted away in hidden armored panels in the legs and chest plate as a just in case for nearly any situation. All of that was in conjunction with the sheer amount of electronic goodies installed in the suit as well. The sheer amount of processing power inside the suit's various armored layers was enough to qualify it as a walking super computer with enough E-Warfare capability to match an entire battlegroup while carrying multiple full powered VI's inside. That was just the base suit as well, various other suit designs were already being made and constructed, designs such as a large exoskeleton armor set that would fit around her normal armor to give it size, mass, and space for even more power and equipment to allow it to become a true Juggernaut on the battlefield and fight off armies of mechs. No real idea when she would ever need such a thing, but it was cool to have so whatever.
If this is for mass-production for public sale then the limited version should be the one that's produced. Because Revy selling higher-tier tech to other people not loyal to her own company would be ridiculously stupid.
Edit: woops, got the wrong one for the lower spec for mass production.
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What? So is this about which one is gonna be made for Revy this turn? Is this about whether or not we make Revy's super armor mass producible as is. Or whether we limit it's specs and then mass produce it. Is it something else?
