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Who Needs the Empire? (Successor, MLP Nation Game

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Well assuming that it was real milk ice cream, and the temperature changed back from frozen to vaguely temperate? Well first you'd have a massive influx of bugs and bug eaters as they slowly worked their way inwards as the fringes of the melt released their scent into the world. Possibly some sugar-milk floods as the the whole edifice began to collapse, but that would depend on local drainage conditions. The resulting sugar fields would be ant central for decades as the soil got cleaned out enough for plants, worms, and such to begin their whole deals. Milk deposits on the other hand would create fungal and bacterial blooms the likes of which could easily render the place a disease ridden mushroom forest for the next hundred years. After that we'd probably see some greenification as normal ecosystems displaced the post-discord rush, and eventually the temperate desert would likely reassert itself over time unless we do spooky star stuff to the area.

There's an opportunity to start cultivating some truly wild cheeses we might wanna jump on.
 
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DaLintyGuy said:
It's not an illusion. They are making it Day and Night, and the princesses are linked to those concepts for the other magic they perform.
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mh... would they be able to make it day and night outside of Equestria? And if that doesn't work by moving the actual suns and moon (or, I suppose, by rotating the planet), does that mean that they're basically conjuring light or darkness out of nowhere?

I mean, you say they're not moving the sun and moon, but there ARE a sun and moon in their skies. so either they're real, or they're "fake".

And if they're fake, it seems reasonable to define their powers a "country-wide illusion". Or, if you prefer, a conjuration of light, but I'm not sure that's meaningfully different.

and does this effect cover ALL of Equestria? What it they conquered or annexed more land, would that land suddenly rely on them for the day-night cycle, or would you have this disconnect between old and new lands?

w34v3r said:
Well assuming that it was real milk ice cream, and the temperature changed back from frozen to vaguely temperate? Well first you'd have a massive influx of bugs and bug eaters as they slowly worked their way inwards as the fringes of the melt released their scent into the world. Possibly some sugar-milk floods as the the whole edifice began to collapse, but that would depend on local drainage conditions. The resulting sugar fields would be ant central for decades as the soil got cleaned out enough for plants, worms, and such to begin their whole deals. Milk deposits on the other hand would create fungal and bacterial blooms the likes of which could easily render the place a disease ridden mushroom forest for the next hundred years. After that we'd probably see some greenification as normal ecosystems displaced the post-discord rush, and eventually the temperate desert would likely reassert itself over time unless we do spooky star stuff to the area.

There's an opportunity to start cultivating some truly wild cheeses we might wanna jump on.
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this makes me wonder...

Meat from animals and fish/whales/sea-monsters are the obvious first source of food for obligate carnivores.

But they could also eat bugs, they might be able to digest eggs or milk, they could keep around bees for their honey...
 
Oh god that would become a truly foul smelling bug filled swamp. A miasma of disease and the too sweet smell of Rot mixing with the sweet smell of sugar that I don't think the Dromaeids can even eat.
 
Yeah that whole thing is gonna be a wealth of opportunities if we can capitalize on it, but it's also gonna reek to whole new levels of stank. Nurglite deamons will probably want to run off with chunks of it.
 
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FictionPack said:
I more got the feeling they found those structures and moved in.
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No, they were built using what materials they had at hand.

Pittauro said:
mh... would they be able to make it day and night outside of Equestria? And if that doesn't work by moving the actual suns and moon (or, I suppose, by rotating the planet), does that mean that they're basically conjuring light or darkness out of nowhere?

I mean, you say they're not moving the sun and moon, but there ARE a sun and moon in their skies. so either they're real, or they're "fake".

And if they're fake, it seems reasonable to define their powers a "country-wide illusion". Or, if you prefer, a conjuration of light, but I'm not sure that's meaningfully different.

and does this effect cover ALL of Equestria? What it they conquered or annexed more land, would that land suddenly rely on them for the day-night cycle, or would you have this disconnect between old and new lands?
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It's magic, I aint gotta explain zog. You can kinda argue that it's temporal, but really it's just conceptual.

They probably could expand it if they really wanted to.
 
mh... it doesn't seem to fit with the old unicorns raising the sun and moon before the Alicorns, but then again maybe THEY were faking it. Or holding the day-night cycle hostage against the other tribes.

I still feel like it's "basically" an illusion, but I'm really only arguing details. If it looks like day and night, and it behaves like day and night, and even affects things magically like day and nights (say Luna's full moon can trigger a werewolf's transformation), than the difference becomes just academic at best.
 
so every land has a opportunity to branch into different industries . Green-High-Grass could lead to cheese, mushroom, honey, and dairy. though it will probably require us to develop hazard suits to ward off diseases and the awful smell. Descending-Light-Pale could lead to Glassworks, Masonry, and architecture. Dark-Land-Water could lead to seafood, Aquaculture, shipbuilding, and underwater materials. more than likely, there are a lot more things that can be gained from each but personally, Dark-Land-Water seems the best out of it because it has natural fossil fuels like tar pits (crude oil) and ore seams ( coal). it can also lead to early international trading via ships (we could make money or partnerships selling ores, dairy, masonry, etc) as well as my favorite idea, Dino cruises! (dont recreate the titanic, you fools)
 
Pittauro said:
mh... it doesn't seem to fit with the old unicorns raising the sun and moon before the Alicorns, but then again maybe THEY were faking it. Or holding the day-night cycle hostage against the other tribes.

I still feel like it's "basically" an illusion, but I'm really only arguing details. If it looks like day and night, and it behaves like day and night, and even affects things magically like day and nights (say Luna's full moon can trigger a werewolf's transformation), than the difference becomes just academic at best.
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I have some ideas depending on if the effect is limited to Equestria or global:

If global:
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My guess is that Equas lost its original orbit around the sun and rotational status and either has an artifact sun/moon or a magical method of filtering or bending and controlling what light gets through and where it lands.

I also theorize that the current moon is real but depending on whether or not it is actually being moved and not just the view of the sky then perhaps very small yet extremely close to the planet and likely being magically stabilized.)

If indeed limited to Equestria:
( My guess is that it is neither an illusion nor physically real but light and possibly space is being bent thanks to something Discord did and at some point the Unicorns and later the sisters gained some manual control over this effect and perhaps even the ability to extend and to a lesser extent contract it. So it is real but normally localized and effecting the 'representation' and access to the 'concepts' of the sun and moon in it's area more than actually directly impacting the celestial bodies which would actually by default be global.
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w34v3r said:
Well assuming that it was real milk ice cream, and the temperature changed back from frozen to vaguely temperate? Well first you'd have a massive influx of bugs and bug eaters as they slowly worked their way inwards as the fringes of the melt released their scent into the world. Possibly some sugar-milk floods as the the whole edifice began to collapse, but that would depend on local drainage conditions. The resulting sugar fields would be ant central for decades as the soil got cleaned out enough for plants, worms, and such to begin their whole deals. Milk deposits on the other hand would create fungal and bacterial blooms the likes of which could easily render the place a disease ridden mushroom forest for the next hundred years. After that we'd probably see some greenification as normal ecosystems displaced the post-discord rush, and eventually the temperate desert would likely reassert itself over time unless we do spooky star stuff to the area.

There's an opportunity to start cultivating some truly wild cheeses we might wanna jump on.
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It would be interesting to see how the different organisms over time adapted to the abundance and slowly returning scarcity over time. Species can adapt surprisingly fast and I suspect that this would be even faster and more interesting where there is plenty of magic.

The biomass mixed into the ground would certainly help retain moisture and stave off the desert for a while and various formations could provide additional layers of shade.

Over time depressions in the land, roots, and tunnels could trap some water.
 
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Vote locked for the naval start, update a little less than halfway done.

Yes that was me forgetting to delete the threadmark before posting, move along citizens.
 
ScarsAline said:
oh also, naval warfare. if we could secure a alliance with the Griffs, then sky & sea will go through us.
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The Minotaurs started the game with the ability to build biremes due to not losing everything they once were like the Zebra did. It is good to have ambitions, and vassalizing yourself to a stronger power is a move that can be made, but your statement sounds of hubris.
 
DaLintyGuy said:
The Minotaurs started the game with the ability to build biremes due to not losing everything they once were like the Zebra did. It is good to have ambitions, and vassalizing yourself to a stronger power is a move that can be made, but your statement sounds of hubris.
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Damn, they beat us to it that fast, huh. possible partner to consider, though i have no clue what to trade the Minos, maybe they like metal ores.

as for my statement, it is not (simply) hubris but the words of a madmen, for sometimes the most genius ideas are the crazy ambitious ones, dreaming big and struggling for success instead of dreaming small and staying content with mediocrity.
 
Not sure how much of a trading empire we'll be able to build since we are seen as freaks at best and abominations at worse.

Honestly it felt like the plains dinos were the way to go for diplomacy for me since the zebra neighbors weren't hostile just trying to rebuild their lives after discord's reign
 
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