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What Fresh Hell (Naruto SI)

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Orisha91 said:
Sorry for the double post but an idea just came to me.

The mindfulness meditation research can get us one of the most powerful techniques in canon.

That would be the opening and controlling the Eigth gates . We need to teach ourselves the eight gates technique and improve on it more than Rock Lee and Might Guy.

Once we train our body up with the mindfulness training, which will build a large amount of body awareness, we'll have unparalleled control (legendary?) over our tenketsu, hopefully enough that the damage of the technique can be mitigated drastically. I think that soft weights should speed things up on this end to further supplement our training.

I believe recall might be enhanced by the mindfulness meditation as well, so maybe we can train the technique to be our own special memory recall tool. If not, we have got to make that a pill or a jutsu. having access and control of our memories would be very handy.

How's that for "not boring"?

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It's a very good idea for using our strengths to obtain very effective force multipliers, and I could support its use in future to obtain power to achieve our goals.

I'm just annoyed by people who want to defer our aspiration over and over again and not expect consequences. These choices are all about what kind of person we are - and what kind of person seeks power, as much power as possible, for no future goal but to have that power? Not choosing is still a choice.

E: Not that there's anything wrong with the Orochimaru route. It's just that I'd prefer it be spelled out explicitly, instead of stumbling into it ass backwards.
 
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Redshirt Army said:
Because there are literal hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of stories in Naruto starring ninjas, and perhaps a few hundred starring monks?

So far the character has no agency, no drive, she's passively accepted his lot in life and assumed that since she's in Naruto, she'll be a ninja. Going to sleep when some fucker shows up at your orphanage and puts a genjutsu on everyone - "Oh, it'll work out?" She's damaged from reincarnation, looks at everything with a distant sort of apathy.

And then that fucker tried to kill everyone she loves. This isn't a game anymore.
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I'll admit, I kind of assumed there'd be more divergence myself, figured everyone would have been tired of the fics that tread the ninja path, but such was the way people voted.

Redshirt Army said:
(and probably getting Sage mode somehow),
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No sage mode for you I'm afraid, Void taint prevents it. Of course nothing is stopping you from developing some super technique and just declaring yourself a sage. It's not like the average person would know the difference.

Orisha91 said:
That would be the opening and controlling the Eigth gates . We need to teach ourselves the eight gates technique and improve on it more than Rock Lee and Might Guy.
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Mindfulness meditation does not lead to the eight gates, it's a path to a possible original battle art. Original techniques are always much more interesting.

Selias said:
Different paragraphs when the one speaking changes, please.
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Altered, hopefully a bit easier to parse now.
 
deadcrystal said:
No sage mode for you I'm afraid, Void taint prevents it. Of course nothing is stopping you from developing some super technique and just declaring yourself a sage. It's not like the average person would know the difference.
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Well if we are any good with seals and we stumble upon a corpse/capture someone with Orochimaru's Curse Seal, we could find a way to make it our own and be able to channel Nature Chakra through that. Or we stumble upon it through endless experimentation.
 
Aspiration
[X] You thought that you could have a simple life. Maybe be a monk, study chakra. Not change the plot. And then some fucker with a headband came and almost killed everyone you care about, because you didn't want to get involved. Create a world where orphanages are left in peace. Bring true civilian rule and democracy to the Elemental Nations.

The Academy (Note, The Second Shinobi World War, Academy operates faster than peacetime operation. Academy starts at age five so serves as an ordinary school in addition)
[X] You need information, knowledge, and power, political or otherwise. Push yourself as far as you can in academic subjects. Focus on your chakra - meditate, work with all five elements, try for feeling your mental and physical energies. Chakra leads to the creation of all things, it is the wellspring of life itself. To demote it to a mere killing tool is the greatest insult. And if the comparative lack of focus on physical abilities means you take longer to graduate, then that's just more time to study.

Goals
[X] Survive the war.
[X] You've let your memories of your old world slip. No more. Try and remember as much sociology, politics, history, etc. from your old world as you can.
[X] You did nothing, once. It almost cost you everything. If you can act to help, do.
 
honestly VOID taint is both our strongest ability and our greatest Achilles heel. even if it was possible to purge it, it is to useful to do so
 
Hm, well if eight gates is out, I'll come up with something else.

deadcrystal said:
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Atypical training: Your odd chakra training method means you are becoming used to releasing chakra from any tenketsu. This is similarly largely pointless, though it isn't particularly detrimental at present either.
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If we continue this, can we work on nature while releasing chakra from our tenketsu? Like expelling some small doses of static? Or releasing water droplets from them?
 
Vote tally:
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[X] Just go through the normal course and develop your mindfulness meditation with it.
No. of votes: 2
silentspirals, PlatypusofFail

[X] Gain the skills to survive this world.
No. of votes: 1
silentspirals

[X] Defer for now
No. of votes: 4
silentspirals, PlatypusofFail, AZATHOTHoth, Inf0mercial

[X] Learn all the ninja skills you can.
No. of votes: 3
PlatypusofFail, AZATHOTHoth, Inf0mercial

[x] Seek early graduation. Show off your skill.
No. of votes: 3
yinko, AZATHOTHoth, Inf0mercial

[x] You thought that you could have a simple life. Maybe be a monk, study chakra. Not change the plot. And then some fucker with a headband came and almost killed everyone you care about, because you didn't want to get involved. Create a world where orphanages are left in peace. Bring true civilian rule and democracy to the Elemental Nations.
No. of votes: 6
Redshirt Army, Khepri14, Orisha91, assana73, NeverDies, Darkcrest

[x] You need information, knowledge, and power, political or otherwise. Push yourself as far as you can in academic subjects. Focus on your chakra - meditate, work with all five elements, try for feeling your mental and physical energies. Chakra leads to the creation of all things, it is the wellspring of life itself. To demote it to a mere killing tool is the greatest insult. And if the comparative lack of focus on physical abilities means you take longer to graduate, then that's just more time to study.
No. of votes: 6
Redshirt Army, Khepri14, Orisha91, assana73, NeverDies, Darkcrest

[x] Survive the war.
No. of votes: 6
Redshirt Army, Khepri14, Orisha91, assana73, NeverDies, Darkcrest

[x] You've let your memories of your old world slip. No more. Try and remember as much sociology, politics, history, etc. from your old world as you can.
No. of votes: 6
Redshirt Army, Khepri14, Orisha91, assana73, NeverDies, Darkcrest

[x] You did nothing, once. It almost cost you everything. If you can act to help, do.
No. of votes: 6
Redshirt Army, Khepri14, Orisha91, assana73, NeverDies, Darkcrest

Survive the war discounted as that's a given, also disregarding goal to act, as demeanour means she'll act anyway.

I'll close the vote in an hour or so maybe? Probs won't change much there, but eh, I'll try and get the next update out faster this time.
 
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    • The academy appears to be a small squat building inset into a cliff face, although you have no idea how far it extends into the rock. It's mid morning and you can see a few groups of kids, older than you, in an open space through a set of windows where they appear to be sparring. Heading through the front doors the person at reception directs you to an room down the hall. Inside you find a hilariously stereotypically cluttered office with piles of paper all over the table and floor slowly merging into each other. The man behind the table, somewhat disappointingly, is not a bespectacled white haired doddering old professor. He looks more like a surfer than anything which is really screwing with your sense of cliché expectation.

    "Yo kid. What are you here for? Dropping off a message?"

    "I'm here to join the Academy." You pass over your papers to him which he scans with a raised eyebrow.

    "We do have an, ah, discretionary fund for those students without support networks, so it could certainly be allowed. You're a few days past induction but we can probably swing something. There should be an assessment just about to to start in one of the lower levels to see what classes we'll be putting you all in. Join in with that and we'll see what can be done, yeah? I'll take you down there."

    He leads you down a central staircase, down another corridor which actually leads outside to a rocky plateau. There are a bunch of kids of about your age standing around an largish lake with an instructor. The man you're with waves him over and they have a short hushed conversation before he indicates you should join the group of children.

    The instructor waits for the surfer looking guy to leave then starts his explanation. "So we've got a bunch of classes here, all you kids can't fit in one, so we're gonna have a few tests to see how we should split you up. We'll match you all up with where you'll benefit the most so don't worry." Here he fishes a kunai from out of nowhere as far as you can tell, and throws it so it lands in the ground on the far side of the lake. He then drags his foot across the dirt drawing a line across it in front of you all. "First we'll have a quick physical test. When I say go you've got to try and get to my kunai as fast as possible, however you do it is fine just don't mess with each other, yeah? Alright, go!"

    The whole mess of kids darts off around both sides of the lake. One enterprising young kid dives into the lake and starts swimming straight across towards the opposite bank. You're more than a little fast, but you have no idea which of them here are clan kids and what they might have been taught. Better to not risk not doing well enough that you get dropped into a basic class covering primary school education, you really don't need to go through that twice. So you take a similar tack to the swimming kid and go straight for the prize, except you travel across the surface of the lake rather than cut your way through it. You're the first one there, and you're definitely catching some surprised looks from the other kids. Now that should fairly well guarantee you'll actually be learning useful things, no?

    Strength - 1
    Agility - 5 (4)
    Stamina - 4 (3)
    Awareness - 4
    Chakra Capacity - ??? points
    Chakra Control - B
    Nature Manipulation:
    Lightning - C
    Earth - E
    Water - D
    Fire - E
    Air - E

    Both your Agility and Stamina are currently suffering temporary penalties due to the high altitude. High altitude adaptation will be complete in two months.

    You are currently receiving a monthly stipend for your living expenses as an academy student, most goes towards the subsidised accommodation and living expenses, but there will be some left over each month to spend or save.

    Monthly Budget
    Stipend - 3000 Ryo
    Expenses - 2500 Ryo
    Remaining - 500 Ryo

    High Energy Food - 250 Ryo (Necessary when body building, one weeks worth)
    Basic Worn Weight set - 1500 Ryo
    Training Kunai (Pack of three) - 500 Ryo

    Turn 7 13 BN July - August

    Free time for personal development, four weeks, divide weeks as you please or dedicate to a single thing if you prefer.

    []Attribute Development - Specify
    []Chakra Control
    []Nature Manipulation - Specify, rank cannot exceed chakra control rank
    []Part-time work, make some extra cash
    []Skills
    []Write-in

    Academy in the advanced class for the first month will cover basic theory.
     
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    []Part-time work, make some extra cash
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    I kinda want to do this, because for optimal training we need more money. But doing a part-time job is a very inefficient use of time. deadcrystal, what would it take to get a sponsor? Someone who's basically willing to pay for us in return for influence over us in the future.
     
    Plan: CC

    Week 1
    [X]Attribute Development - Agility
    Week 2
    [X]Nature Manipulation - Lightning
    Week 3
    [X]Chakra Control
    Week 4
    [X]Chakra Control


    Focusing on what are so far are our strong points. Heavy emphasis on chakra control as maxing it early benefits everything else and might open up more options when exploring other things later.

    Edit: if needed we should buy high energy food for the first week.
     
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    Plan Train Strength and Control
    Week 1
    [X] High Energy Food - 250 Ryo (Necessary when body building, one weeks worth)
    [X]Attribute Development - Strength

    Week 2
    [X] High Energy Food - 250 Ryo (Necessary when body building, one weeks worth)
    [X]Attribute Development - Strength

    Week 3
    [X]Chakra Control

    Week 4
    [X]Chakra Control
     
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    Personally I find the continuous pushing for monk stuff to be annoying. I don't so much mind the idea, as I mind that people keep pushing it in every vote. So how about we players take an internal survey and see what level of support there is. That way we can decide for once and all if we are going to pursue something monk related.

    Edit: Running tally
    + Monk: 1
    - Monk: 1
     
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    Are we voting by plan or line?

    PlatypusofFail said:
    Heavy emphasis on chakra control as maxing it early benefits everything else and might open up more options when exploring other things later.
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    Makes sense.



    [X] Plan Control

    [X] Week 1: Awareness
    [X] Week 1: Agility
    [X] Week 1: Buy High Energy Food

    [X] Week 2: Agility
    [X] Week 2: Stamina
    [X] Week 2: Chakra Control

    [X] Week 3: Chakra Control

    [X] Week 4: Chakra Control
    [X] Week 4: Nature Manipulation - Lightning
    [X] Week 4: Buy Training Kunai
    [X] Week 4: Kunai throwing/handling


    Train the physical basics for a couple of days each to ensure we're competitive, then focus on chakra control for a while.
     
    PlatypusofFail said:
    Personally I find the continuous pushing for monk stuff to be annoying. I don't so much mind the idea, as I mind that people keep pushing it in every vote. So how about we players take an internal survey and see what level of support there is. That way we can decide for once and all if we are going to pursue something monk related.
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    I sure as hell want to. The monks in Naruto aren't explored all that much and I have yet to find anything that has the monks and what they do a part of the quest/story. It's pretty clear that the Monks and Samurai have different ways of using chakra than ninjas and ninjas are pretty much overdone. Let's be different.The Samurai just channel chakra for reinforcement and shit like that to fight on an even keel with ninjas along with their tech and stuff from the Land of Iron. Plus, their Way of Bushido (I think that's what it's called?) and hell-training helped too. It's canonical that the Land of Iron was a neutral (for ninja wars and shit) and foreign nation that managed to keep out the Great Five in Naruto. But we know very little of what the monks are capable of which leads to new shiny stuff and (hopefully) some worldbuilding. I've never watched the Sora arc in Naruto by the way and from what the wiki says, it was basically all about the pseudo-jinchuuriki and very little to do with the actual monks themselves.
     
    Weeks are to be spent as whole chunks, so you're choosing between 1 and 4 things to do with free time. Buying stuff can be considered to take negligible time.

    Edit: This is primarily so that training rolls don't get hideously overcomplicated.
     
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    Post 3: Attributes, Chakra, and Skills info
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    • Quest said:
    What do the current stat levels actually correspond to? Like Genin-Chunin-Jounin-Kage levels or Naruto-Sasuke-Sakura-Tsunade level(for Chakra Control).
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    Attributes run from 1 to 15.
    0- Unable to do anything with that stat
    1- Typical for a five year old
    2- Typical for a ten year old
    3- Typical for a fifteen year old
    4-6 Usual adult range of variance
    7-8 Exceptional range of human ability, cannot exceed this without shenanigans
    9-10 Extraordinary ability, true peak of human ability
    11+ Legendary ability Simply unreachable by any normal means

    Tsunade has a Legendary Strength of 12. All Tailed beasts have Legendary Strength and Stamina, because they're broken as fuck.

    Chakra skills ranges from F to S

    F- Civilian can't do anything, included for completeness
    E- Academy techniques, the stuff that if a student left the village knowing the village wouldn't care in the slightest
    D- Actually useful level of combat technique
    C- Techniques difficult for even trained and forewarned professional civilians to do anything about
    B- Chuunin+ techniques
    A- Jonin level techniques
    S- Rule-breaking techniques (Majority of Jonin can't do these, they usually have a wide spread of skill and techniques)

    Ordinary Skills run from 1-9

    0- Unused
    1- Basics only
    2- Novice
    3- Proficient
    4- Professional
    5- Expert
    6-7 Grandmaster
    8-9 Legendary

    Note, with very few exceptions (Hidan, Killer-Bee, Seven Swordsmen) Ninja don't have a weapon skill above five. Samurai defs have them generally beaten in that area.
     
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    • deadcrystal said:
    S- Rule-breaking techniques (Majority of Jonin can't do these, they usually have a wide spread of skill and techniques)
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    Does it need something special to get to S? Also, can we learn/invent the Rasengan? It could count as advance chakra control exercises since the first step explicitly combines Water-walking and Tree-walking.
     
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