- Location
- The Hague
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Controversial gaming opinion: video games are good.
What are controversial gaming opinions you have?
mothematics
How wide is the concept of "you"?
- Location
- the bottom of a coffee cup
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Do they put you in a token character interlinked?
Interlinked.
Do you empathize with other human beings interlinked?
Interlinked.
Do you crave more white boy representation tokens?
Tokens. White boys interlinked within white boys interlinked.
Interlinked.
Do you empathize with other human beings interlinked?
Interlinked.
Do you crave more white boy representation tokens?
Tokens. White boys interlinked within white boys interlinked.
- Location
- secret base
- Pronouns
- She/Her
It's when you get social justice tokens for every time a minority character says a word. You then use these tokens to buy the right not to be politically correct, right?
- Location
- HELL
- Pronouns
- They/It
hahahaha my dude let me guess, you're the kind of person who "doesn't see race", aren't you. Like the kind of person who disregards historical context, and thinks that everyone just exists in a bubble.
yeah uh, no. That's not how that works, child. I wasn't insulting him, I was plainly stating that his position is from a state of both ignorance and privilege. It speaks to a complete lack of self-awareness for how one's perception can change and be affected by race and class. It is a real thing, and it's one that changes how you think.
Now, let's not confuse this for the bucket of garbage that is 'race realism'. Race realism is racist psuedoscience.
This is privilege. This is "straight white men are in absolutely everything". This is "perceptions and portrayal in media is extremely skewed because straight white men write and direct most of everything". This is "of course straight white men don't see anything wrong". It is about a comparative societal advantage and the systemic ignorance of ideas and views outside of a narrow hegemony. This is what people talk about when people point out "privilege"; we aren't talking about some goddamn boogeyman. We're talking about biases that are taught and reinforced.
Like if this makes you uncomfortable, welcome to a fucking sliver of the minority experience.
cash it out and you too can play the "notracist" card.It's when you get social justice tokens for every time a minority character says a word. You then use these tokens to buy the right not to be politically correct, right?
"i'm not a racist but where are you really from?" [card has been spent. put in one more brown character to play]
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- Location
- secret base
- Pronouns
- She/Her
"I use all my tokens to summon Blue-Eyes KKK Dragon"
The Victorian
Elven Supremacist
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I know, right?
Every now and then I try to go back to Skyrim and Oblivion and I invariably stop playing out of boredom when I realise that there's nothing interesting to do in these worlds.
It proabably long before both games join The Witcher 2 and Dragon Age 2 in my Steam library, both of which are locked in an battle for the title "Games I will never play again even on pain of torture."
- Location
- HELL
- Pronouns
- They/It
get enough and you too can be president.
Warning: Nudge
Turing Decidable
𝕘𝕒𝕣𝕗
- Location
- Belgium
- Pronouns
- He/Him
nudge
All right, folks, enough fun. Back on topic, please.
Imrix
Periodically Malevolent QM
brotherrrrr
Pineapple
Punished Pineapple
- Location
- Passin' the kouchie 'pon the lef' hand side
- Pronouns
- She/They
I know what you're referencing, but I don't understand how the test is supposed to work.
Morphic Tide
Crazy Brainstormer, Munchkin and Wannabe Min-Maxer
- Location
- MI, USA
Setting aside the shit thrown at me for daring to be wrong in a mostly-factual manner, because a mod said so, I've trimmed this to just the on-topic part:
The thing is that the difference in input mechanism means that competitive cross-platform can't actually work when one platform is locked to a usually inferior input mechanism. This is why you see everyone at tournaments on a PC. Unless it's a fighting game, in which case everyone is using the exact same controller, to the best of their ability to procure such controllers (it's a problem in Smash Bros Melee)
Well, duh, doing stuff to remove the innate advantages PC-typical inputs have over console-typical inputs tends to lead to shit because it's deliberately removing the value of input mechanisms. Tying it into actual reasonable stuff, like World of Tanks tying it to the actual turret movement rate, makes it less objectionable, and having the game be structured around having it be sensible in some way causes the issues to go down.
The thing is that the difference in input mechanism means that competitive cross-platform can't actually work when one platform is locked to a usually inferior input mechanism. This is why you see everyone at tournaments on a PC. Unless it's a fighting game, in which case everyone is using the exact same controller, to the best of their ability to procure such controllers (it's a problem in Smash Bros Melee)
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Do you actually have to say stuff like that?
Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
- Pronouns
- They/Them
It's better than the ad hominem shade thrown by some.
Morphic Tide
Crazy Brainstormer, Munchkin and Wannabe Min-Maxer
- Location
- MI, USA
I don't have to, but I get grumpy when I need to throw away more than half an hour of typing and thinking (doesn't help that I actually went to try to find some citations that weren't paywalled or calling for donations, that burned a good deal of time) and I spent something like an hour and a half on the post before Turing came in to tell us to drop it. And then I was jumping between forums and threads, went out for a snack and generally left the post there for something like an hour before posting it after trimming out the off-topic parts (was surprised that it was only a single part that was on topic. And that half of it was pointing out how horrifyingly insane the logical conclusion of the "historic context" argument is)
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- They/Them
No, it really isn't. "I could say all these things, but I won't, despite getting publicly owned and caught in a cheap rhetorical tactic, but I'm going to leave a message here anyways, so I can pretend I would have won some sort of moral victory if I'd been allowed to debate."
You're the one who posted a giant, completely off-topic rant, including the part where you all but dared literally one trans person ever to contradict you, which they proceeded to do.
The Englanderish
Schrödinger's Kuudere Kitty Caliph(a)
- Location
- Califat de Chats
If we're done throwing eggs at each other,
Rome 2: Total War is a legitimately good game. Make no mistake, it was fucked on launch, but after its patching and DLC/FLC, it's a solid play. It's certainly not flawless and it's hardly up there with the best of the series, but it's worth sinking a few hundred hours into.
Rome 2: Total War is a legitimately good game. Make no mistake, it was fucked on launch, but after its patching and DLC/FLC, it's a solid play. It's certainly not flawless and it's hardly up there with the best of the series, but it's worth sinking a few hundred hours into.
- Location
- IN SPACE
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I unironically agree with this.
To add my own controversial opinion, Battlefield 1 is better than Battlefield Bad Company 2.
Yeah, they've mostly unfucked it. But you only get one first impression after all.
And video games people, please stay focused. Only hate each other over tank controls.
However, the idea of crippling one side to have competition never feel good to me; you just end up feeling extremely unsatisfying for one group and then they all quit
Jace911
Spider-Dork
- Location
- The Gold-Bricking State
>being called out for using slurs is worse than actually using slurs
okay.jaypegg
Morphic Tide
Crazy Brainstormer, Munchkin and Wannabe Min-Maxer
- Location
- MI, USA
...You do realize that TheOneMoiderah unironically brought up the white privilege and historic context argument, right? The former being racial profiling to the extreme with a sentiment that, just because I'm (not?) part of some specific ethnic group, I cannot understand economic hardship and racial profiling, and the latter being hereditary blame that perfectly justifies applying punishments to every descendant a person has the instant you separate it from history and bring it to today-events. I argue against this stuff because the logic behind it justifies absolutely horrific insanity the instant you drop the double standards. And it terrifies me because it's not even tyranny of the majority (which I'd still argue against because, surprise surprise, I'm not actually a fucking racist just because I'm white), it's tyranny of the whiny, elitist minority.
And you do realize that a mod told us to get back on topic, right?
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On-topic, to at least try to avoid Rule 4 without completely abandoning defense of my standing, something I wish was more prevalent is, essentially, interface-based difficulty. Working around stuff like induced aim delay (World of Tanks), limited turning rate (tank controls) not-quite-intuitive menu layouts and so on can be frustrating, but makes the game have something of a "minimum competence threshold" to play properly, thereby clearing some of the chaff that tend to be the most toxic. Sure, you end up with an elitist community, more likely than not, but it is, at worst, harshly exclusive rather than actively repulsive.
Well, when you have the normally inferior group still face the delays in place for the superior group, just less of them because they have an experience restricted in similar ways by default, it's less of a problem. Because it both puts them on a level playing field, and makes sure both see clear penalties. Only a few people would actually notice what's been done to keep the platforms roughly equal, and would be unlikely to make a fuss out of it.
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- They/Them
I still don't actually know how any of this is supposed to be appealing as gameplay.
I also don't think that casual players are the most toxic in the first place.
As far as the PC/other thing, I don't really get the idea here, really?
- Location
- HELL
- Pronouns
- They/It
Changing the controls to be more cumbersome should be the exception, not the rule. Like, it's one thing to do it for a horror game or a game where combat isn't the main focus. It's completely another when it's supposed to be an action game or, god forbid, a game with online competition.
That will outright kill your playerbase. Because you just made a bad fucking game.
Boy, I'm still in the thread. If you got beef, tag me directly. Talking shit about me without actually talking to me directly is, frankly, cowardly.
I mean, that, and I haven't actually said anything since that one argument I made. So you're not only wrong in how you're approaching race (and frankly everything you've said is actually really embarrassing and a little bit racist), you're also wrong in your passive-aggressive hand-wringing.
So congratulations.
Stop: Stop
- Pronouns
- He/Him
stop
I'm going to start threadbanning people for extended periods if this argument doesn't stop right now. Any further posts on it will be deleted to boot, so don't even bother.
And, for the record, @Morphic Tide, it is SV's official position that 'trap' constitutes a slur, and we will take action if you use it as one, regardless of whatever you've found elsewhere on the internet.
And, for the record, @Morphic Tide, it is SV's official position that 'trap' constitutes a slur, and we will take action if you use it as one, regardless of whatever you've found elsewhere on the internet.
Pulling a Harrison Bergeron should always be a last resort. Just separate out the playerbases if it's an issue, don't make one game feel like it's underwater. Control restrictions should add to gameplay, not detract from it.
- Location
- Land of the Midday Sun
So we should make a game less enjoyable by way of fucking over the controls in order to "balance" cross-platform multiplayer? Yeah no, that's a good way to not have multiplayer at all.
Yeah, the difference between launch Rome 2 and today's Rome 2 is night and day.