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...It was in the same folder as paralysis in your bible of abilities though.
What's the difference then between body modifiers and non-body-modifiers?
What's the difference then between body modifiers and non-body-modifiers?
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This.
Using Summit's freaky Cthulhu suit/weapon to pull her body around when nerve gas has shut down muscles is different than ignoring Giant Cave Spider Silk gluing you to the ground.
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Step 1. Fly while being curled into a fetal position.
Step 2. On being webbed, apply Aggressive Absorption on "everywhere around you that isn't you". The diameter is 1.5m, you can easily do it.
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Step 3: Gain the ability to produce high-quality silk and earn a fortune selling it to clothing-companies
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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Look at the ability description. Does it contain the words "applies a body modifier" or similar? If yes, then Wings of Imagination will block it. If not, it won't.
Summit would be immune to Lame or Bleed, for instance, but is still susceptible to Freeze or Murder.
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Step 4: Profit!Step 3: Gain the ability to produce high-quality silk and earn a fortune selling it to clothing-companies
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could we get an idea of what it would do before we buy it? I know thematically it sounds like we go full transhuman and replace our body with a better one, but it's a bit vague on the exact impact. Like would we be able to fold ourself into a mostly human shape to socialize? would we still have our sense of touch and taste? would there be mental effects? and most importantly, could we get a moth mounted flamethrower and eye mounted lasers?
Right now my conception of it is we end up with a body made out of essintally knife origami that can fold into a shape that looks human when untransformed and trying to look normal, and that we look like a horrifying mesh of knives and energy when transformed, but that's mostly a blind guess I found amusing.
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LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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Isn't the Ponoply more like black silly-putty though?
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unless it makes us permanently transformed we'd still need a fully physical body. Just one that's less squishy, and more able to utilize our panoply when transformed. Though if it leaves us permanently transformed, then my new blind guess is that we'd be some sort of energy creature thing, like a T-1000 made of our Ponoply.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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Well, Summit has a Type 1 transformation, so fusing the panoply and the flesh does kind of imply permanent "transformation".
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not necessarily, keep in mind her panoply is super good at manufacturing things. it could involve building a new physical body optimized to interface with the panoply, but capable of surviving without it. Though on the balance, I think a permanent transformation would be more likely. We have a long enough transformation time that not needing to worry about running out mid-fight wouldn't much of a change.
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Honestly, since Summit has a Type 1 transformation (empower physical body), and the flavor text is "Weapon and flesh meld together...", I believe that the least we can expect to gain is this:
1) The equivalent of Solid Drive's No Longer Human (mechanically - another Total End Damage reducer)
2) The equivalent of Solid Drive's Thin Grey Line (mechanically - trickle down power to untransformed state)
But visually... We can probably expect some kind of "beauty is only skin deep" deal, and that in untransformed state. While in transformation we can probably expect the original article's Durga as a combat form. We can also possibly expect our Panoply to be somewhat expressed in untransformed state, perhaps giving us one flat point of Protean without anything else.
As a result, Summit (who habitually spends as much time as she can get away with in transformed state) will be replaced with this fully armored figure, and with her stony countenance she has right now it will make her rather hard to approach.
And that's the least we could expect. It might be a much greater hit to any efforts to give the poor girl a semblance of happy and fulfilling life like that of humans.
For all that I would like TTTGFTH, I feel that Anna's being approachable is more valuable trait than what Abomination will inflict on her and grant us access to, especially since Attack and Defense are also covered with Pioneer and Paragon, providing us with an alternative.
At least not unless the decision made right then and there spells the difference between victory and defeat in the Endless War - as that is the choice Summit would take in that situation.
1) The equivalent of Solid Drive's No Longer Human (mechanically - another Total End Damage reducer)
2) The equivalent of Solid Drive's Thin Grey Line (mechanically - trickle down power to untransformed state)
But visually... We can probably expect some kind of "beauty is only skin deep" deal, and that in untransformed state. While in transformation we can probably expect the original article's Durga as a combat form. We can also possibly expect our Panoply to be somewhat expressed in untransformed state, perhaps giving us one flat point of Protean without anything else.
As a result, Summit (who habitually spends as much time as she can get away with in transformed state) will be replaced with this fully armored figure, and with her stony countenance she has right now it will make her rather hard to approach.
And that's the least we could expect. It might be a much greater hit to any efforts to give the poor girl a semblance of happy and fulfilling life like that of humans.
For all that I would like TTTGFTH, I feel that Anna's being approachable is more valuable trait than what Abomination will inflict on her and grant us access to, especially since Attack and Defense are also covered with Pioneer and Paragon, providing us with an alternative.
At least not unless the decision made right then and there spells the difference between victory and defeat in the Endless War - as that is the choice Summit would take in that situation.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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Agree to disagree, there.
Spectrum
Tell me a secret~
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- Behind you~
Well, I would find it very strange if you had a 3500xp tax that did nothing or you had one that did something wildly different than the ability that is its pre-req.
I mean, if you want to tell me now that Paragon has nothing at all to do with survivability and the Aegis Field pre-req and the fluff line is a red herring, great, but I'm going to say that's a little obtuse.
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Ding ding ding!
Summit has been using her weapon to hold damaged parts of herself together for a while (I Shall Not Fall), Abomination improves on this and lets her shift flesh back into weapon. It wouldn't look creepy until she melts away completely for safe-keeping and resembles a small shoggoth. Since she's in the habit of letting her Panoply float behind her in non-combat situations so people can see her face it's unlikely to make social any harder.
To be clear, there isn't a loss of apparent humanity besides the whole realization that she's a magical T-1000 now. All humanity functions are kept in working order. Unless you nom a Gehaburn or something...
(Funnily enough, Anna has been feeling better with the whole paranoia thing once she started spending more non-combat time transformed. Not having eyes in the back of her head, or flight, or a field that can ignore small-arms fire makes her anxious.)
*Nods appreciatively* Honestly one of the better coping mechanisms I can think of.
Spectrum
Tell me a secret~
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(You can't lose humanity if you have nothing left!)
I thought it was too obvious to mention that Abomination would be some form of going transhuman using the Panoply. Basically, making Summit become similar to how the Anna who is the inspiration behind Summit was while fighting in Alaska.
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Eh. Second one maybe. We already have Panoply Level 30, we just need to 3500XP and we'll be able to get Pioneer right then. Of Paragon and Abomination, Ceaseless Warrior only has one level on Aegis Field (granted that's still 200XP), so... *Shrug*
Only physically!
I want the next batch of EXP to be getting the ability to use Wave Force as a ranged attack.
After that, I'm cool with going for any of: Pioneer, Paragon, 100% Max Health Wave Force, or finding out what our other spells do at levels 5 and 10.
We should also probably grab Emblem of Endurance and Stabilize at some point.
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All of humanity functions? No, that's not (just) for lewds' sake. Homeostasis, hormonal balance, and yes, procreation capability are kinda important to human condition.
I would prefer Stabilize to be gotten sooner rather than later, and getting Wave Force ranged nicely takes care of prerequisites. Or vice versa.
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Dude. Magic.
Like, literally, Magic. They can see if you're actually gender dysphoric by looking at your soul and seeing if you're a male soul in a female body or vice versa. Nepgear was human up until she bought an Ability explicitly called No Longer Human.
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Magic is nice to have. WoQM with Magic is nicer to have.
