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Tome of the Orange Sky (Naruto/MGLN)
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Tisaku
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-One of the best reactions I have seen was Zabusa calling Haku and the two of them checking over their contract to be sure that the 'Uzumaki clause' was there and then noping on out when they found it.
Shame I can't remember which one it was from.-
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Can't remember the name of it right now, but I think that was the Bet fic that does a minor cross with WoW, and has Naruto being turned into a dragon by a chaos & mischief god. With a dragon from WoW being brought in as his previously unknown 'aunt'. Another fun thing of that fic was Naruto's nickname for Training Area 44. He calls it "the forest of snacks."
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It was one of Greyff/nimodes' fics, Spiral Dragon, which is on his FFN account.
His AO3 account can be found just here.
He did two other Naruto crosses which he removed due to the huge amount of negative reviews he received from trolls and others. I re-posted them (with a statement that i would take them down if he ever put them back up on one of his accounts or asked for them to be removed) on my FFN account. I did not include them in the Great Migration of stories to my AO3 account.
It's on fanfiction.net, or at least one that has the same/similar scene; Rorschach's Blot, The story/snippet collection 'What if?' Chapter 21, Whirling Sparks. (continues in chapter 22 and 25) And, since it was mentioned earlier, it's the same one mentioned here:
And this is a 'Girl Genius' sort of cross. More of a 'All Uzumaki are Heterodynes'. I don't think there was Jaegers. So yeah, there's a very specific reason why the Uzumaki clause was in there.
I really doubt that the same kind of craziness would end up in this story. If only because that level of 'mad scientist' doesn't quite mesh with everything else. At least in terms of 'breaking physics'.
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My understanding is that in canon, most of the hidden villages decided to work together to wipe out Uzu... because Uzu produced a lot of master and grandmaster tier sealing experts. Thus making them extremely dangerous. Especially since in most hidden villages there are very few who could be said to be a journeyman when it comes to sealing.
Other then whoever applies the Caged Bird Seal, Naruto's village has one master, 1 or 2 that are talented, and maybe a few more who are only capable of making sealing scrolls.
Other then whoever applies the Caged Bird Seal, Naruto's village has one master, 1 or 2 that are talented, and maybe a few more who are only capable of making sealing scrolls.
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Zabuza will probably get traumatized due to the Uzumaki reputation. Haku will get traumatized as well. I think everyone is afraid of them at pranks or something.
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I swear I read that passage before. What story is it from?
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That story was mentioned earlier in the comments of this story. It is the Guyver/Naruto cross, Guyver Naruto. Ino was terminally injured and Naruto discovers how to increase the amount of Guyver units that exist because of that.
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Best way to convince a preteen to avoid something like it is a plague.
... oh for the love of all the Pantheons, Orochimaru is clearly the Naruto-verse equivalent of a Tinker (minus piece of Interdimensional Space Whale/Worm connected to the brain), isn't he?
Enough that some would be willing to bear you a children to have a fixed supply me thinks.
Because someone could have pointed up (I suspect Shikaku) that the tradition is getting too old to remain useful and that sooner or later the other Villages will start to think and teach Anti Ino-Shika-Cho Strategies to their own genins upward?
The other thing that is used in the fandom as a 'good justification' to break the Ino-Shika-Cho in the Rookie Nine's Generation is that the canon personalities of the 'new blood' frankly do not mix as well as they should.
The very fact that that combination is traditional is more than enough good reason to break it up forever. This is a Ninja-Setting, with spying and analysis of formations and tactics being bread and parcel of any sensible intelligence devision of any village. Nothing is more deadly to your own shinobi than having a formation repeated enough that is becomes traditional and thus something your enemies can start to actually expect to encounter and thus plan counters for.
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Going back to it, just remembered that Ami is one of Sasuke's teammates alongside Ino. Don't think it's very often I see her mentioned that much past the academy. I think the only fic I've seen where she was actually a major character was one where a blind Aburame decided that she was going to be her friend. Said fic also made her mother rather unpleasant and main reason she was pushing Ami to hang out was due to her association with two of the major clans. Also a different fic where she was just very blunt.
But anyways, wonder how things are going to go for them considering the one history where Ino defended Sakura from her. Well unless I'm thinking of the wrong person. At least to a point of being able to pass.
But anyways, wonder how things are going to go for them considering the one history where Ino defended Sakura from her. Well unless I'm thinking of the wrong person. At least to a point of being able to pass.
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Because only the Hidden Village system has been around for that long – prior to that, it was individual and/or allied clans all working independently from each other.
It was explicitly the Uchiha and Senju clans – the two most powerful clans on the continent – joining hands, that caused the paradigm to shift away from the Clan system in the first place.
Love the bit about the out of village academies. Having just the one in the main village and only 3 teams passing is just crazy unsustainable.
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Which is why fans theorize that the civilian council (Danzo and his cronies) have been eroding the academy's lesson plan and standards since the 4th died.
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To be fair, we don't have a solid number for the village's population in general or how many ninja any village has at a given time on average, or if Naruto's class in canon is an accurate example of a normal graduating class or if there is more than one class per year, the average could be closer to 6-8 teams passing per graduating class with staggered graduating classes each month and even with just 5 on average twice per year with a standard shinobi force being only about 500 members, with a normal village population of about 10,000 with up about another half of the active forces worth in retired former shinobi(assuming many surviving retire from active duty be it due to injury or other reasons by their late-twenties to mid-thirties and cases like Jiraya being active in his 40s-50s to be substantial outliers) then it could be sustained fairly easily. Those numbers would also be fairly plausible if you allow for the possibility of a much lower global population than real life, for all we know the total global population is only about 20-30 million in the Naruto world.
TLDR: How believably sustainable the one graduating class we see for Konoha would be if it were the average really only becomes apparent after making a lot of assumptions about the world that the canon story never gives any real information on.
TLDR: How believably sustainable the one graduating class we see for Konoha would be if it were the average really only becomes apparent after making a lot of assumptions about the world that the canon story never gives any real information on.
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Well, based on Kakashi's claim of only 2/3 of the academy graduates actually making it to genin status, one can assume that if there's nine teams of 3 in a given class, only six of them (at most) are expected to pass the genin test. Then again, do we actually know how many people from Naruto's class actually made it to genin? Or is it just assumed that only the "rookie 9" (12 with Team Gai included) that the series follows managed to graduate?
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Also Kakashi could have just been lying, you know, the thing that ninja are expected to do all the god damned time.
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As far as mine understanding goes, four villages attacked Uzu, while ALL the minor villages attacked Konoha.
Pervert Sensei, Ori-chan and Tsunada didn't like that time.
It included village exterminations.
One such village had flying machines.
Two weeks or more, Konoha was bogt down by this, not able to help Uzu.
They completely wippen villages of the table in order to be able to move to the resque of Uzu.
The next war, gave rise to the Yellow Flash.
That's what I figure, happend from the partial hints on the wiki pages.
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Canon timeline has been shaky quite a lot. Whenever i read fics, if authors dont specify the timeline i always imagined it like:
1st shinobi war starts with Hashirama's death and ends with Tobirama's.
2nd shinobi war starts with Uzu attack and ends with Suna/Konoha alliance treaty and Sannin naming by Hanzo.
3rd shinobi war starts with 3rd Kazekage dying to Sasori and Danzo fanning the flames with Iwa, ends with Minato wiping shit out.
1st shinobi war starts with Hashirama's death and ends with Tobirama's.
2nd shinobi war starts with Uzu attack and ends with Suna/Konoha alliance treaty and Sannin naming by Hanzo.
3rd shinobi war starts with 3rd Kazekage dying to Sasori and Danzo fanning the flames with Iwa, ends with Minato wiping shit out.
I can actually see Zabuza not caring about the Uzumaki reputation at all. That's back when it was more common as well. He is the entire demon of the mist. He wouldn't have been worried about them. Haku wouldn't have even heard about them. Long gone clan of ninja? Why mention them.
I can actually see what happens to Zabuza and Haku being a noodle incident whose knowledge of spreads. Zabuza and Haku never ever speak of it. The knowledge of what happened spread at the speed of rumor though. If there were any Uzumaki clauses or such, I could see various old-timers making sure their grandkids had them and were informed of things. It could also be what confirms to other villages that some Uzu are back.
They'd have been expecting the Uzu to bounce back during his mom's generation. The Uzu survivors all married into other villages or disappeared. They aren't gone, they just aren't gathered together as a ninja clan. Now, you've got Naruto and Karin's generation. Most have no idea that they are even related to Uzu, much less knowledge of Uzu jutsu and traditions.
That's where the Uzu Battle Squad is so concerning. It's not one guy happening to survive. It's the survivors rebuilding somewhere unknown and now finally at combat numbers to interact with outsiders. I could see a lot of effort being put out trying to find this hidden Uzu village.
I liked the thing with the various other ninja academies. It showed that ninja/chakra eugenics was an accidental thing. Being born in a ninja village means that you could easily become a ninja. Maybe not without effort, but they'd have the potential and with training start seeing gains. It'd also being in a culture where everyone knows ninja stuff.
Heck, that ramen chief and his daughter might have been able to teach classes just by living in Konoha compared to those other villages. If either wanted to be a ninja or had basic ninja training it's something everyone living in Konoha has. It also looks like anyone who wants their family to become a ninja or get bumped up on the unofficial ninja rankings moves to their ninja villages.
Retired ninja or those that don't make it, still have vastly better ninja genetics compared to untrained civilians elsewhere trying to learn. If Konoha was wiped out, it's not that the land of fire couldn't rebuild the village, it's that it would take generations for the new ninja to be worth anything. Depending on the area, that might have been what actually happened with the remaining Uzu. The civilians tried, but don't have the genetics and couldn't really become higher-tier ninja. The others weren't worried about genin or chunin.
Thinking about it, that might be why some minor ninja villages are minor.
O.k. new theory. When Uzu was hit, their main ninja families and all that died. The surviving civilians couldn't really rebuild it as a ninja village. They don't have the skills or chakra to start with. Also, ninja war was going on so they didn't really want to try then. Now the area where Uzu was still exists as do various civilians. They might not be considered in ninja matters anymore as no more ninja. If anyone from there wants to be a ninja they had to move closer to Konoha or another village. The same goes for hiring ninja. They likely have a nearby ninja office that they need to travel to do their hiring through.
There isn't a need for them to rebuild a ninja village with the ninja system around. Some of the stuff about ninja villages might be national bragging rights as well.
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He was specifically lying, he even admits to it. It was part of the test meant to drive the team apart. Believing it has any relevance to the truth of the world after that point is foolish.
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He lied about the team only having 2 pass. But from what little is shown, he might have lied by distorting what that 2/3 number meant. Instead of a third of the teams not passing, he implied it was a third of the total genin. Thus setting up his perspective team to fight amount each other.
Although, he hadn't even needed to do that. Team 7 had absolutely no team work or coordination initially. Even if Naruto was willing to work with the others, they consistently refused to work with him. The only one Naruto thought he could rely on is himself, because that's the only one he'd ever been able to truly rely on. Sakura would only work with Sasuke, although her dieting and lack of proper conditioning meant she wouldn't be able to contribute much. And Sasuke thought he didn't need anyone else, so would refuse to work with the others. Never mind that three freshly graduated academy students would stand no chance against a jounin one on one.
In fact, you see this in the episode showing the initial bell test. Without any thoughts of working together with Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura both run off and hide instead. When Sakura tried to suggest the two of them working together, Sasuke blew her off. The only reason they barely passed is because Sakura decided, for once, to take pity on Naruto and gave him some food. Oh, and convinced Sasuke to do the same. Yes, they eventually became a coherent (sort of) team. But that was only after a life or death situation. The movies featuring all three of the pre-time skip Team Seven are rather vague on when exactly they take place.
Although, he hadn't even needed to do that. Team 7 had absolutely no team work or coordination initially. Even if Naruto was willing to work with the others, they consistently refused to work with him. The only one Naruto thought he could rely on is himself, because that's the only one he'd ever been able to truly rely on. Sakura would only work with Sasuke, although her dieting and lack of proper conditioning meant she wouldn't be able to contribute much. And Sasuke thought he didn't need anyone else, so would refuse to work with the others. Never mind that three freshly graduated academy students would stand no chance against a jounin one on one.
In fact, you see this in the episode showing the initial bell test. Without any thoughts of working together with Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura both run off and hide instead. When Sakura tried to suggest the two of them working together, Sasuke blew her off. The only reason they barely passed is because Sakura decided, for once, to take pity on Naruto and gave him some food. Oh, and convinced Sasuke to do the same. Yes, they eventually became a coherent (sort of) team. But that was only after a life or death situation. The movies featuring all three of the pre-time skip Team Seven are rather vague on when exactly they take place.
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The problem is that if someone lies to you once they cannot be trusted to not lie to you again. In this situation, Kakashi lied about his test. As such we cannot use what was said in the bell test as proof of how the world of Naruto works. If you have any proof that only 2/3 of their class passes I'd love to see it. And no, not seeing any other teams in canon doesn't count as that could just as easily be the absence of evidence and not the evidence of absence.