They may still have crow's beaks like tengu, we haven't gotten a description that says otherwise yet. (Unless I missed it.)
The Voyage Without
- Thread starter Hiver
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Well the chapter says that they are Soong-style Androids based off of Data/Lore, just that Data's specific Processors aren't an understood tech so the Mass Production Androids are significantly less intelligent.
Yeah, but there's nothing about being Soong-style androids that says they have to look like Data. Data was modeled off of Soong's face.
"No, Cadet Ciber, once again we are not reconfiguring the control terminals with DDR pads for your proposed bird drones. It's a waste of resources and prevents the rest of us from properly using them in an emergency".
Well, I'm at least partly wrong. This bit was pointed out to me over on SB:
Though if Captain Grey is gonna be transferred off after shakedown, I kind expect Zephyr to be as well, simply because an Intrepid class is kinda small for him long term.
So it is Voyager, possibly on it's shakedown cruise.
Though if Captain Grey is gonna be transferred off after shakedown, I kind expect Zephyr to be as well, simply because an Intrepid class is kinda small for him long term.
No, I have not. And neither has Zephyr, or anyone else in Starfleet, in all likelihood.
So any entertainment from said comic and references is lost on us. But if you think it's entertaining, feel free to post it here under a spoiler collapser or toss it to me in PMs.
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- Belgium
The only ship we know for sure had Janeway as a commander was the U.S.S Billings ,
Since the voyager was build in 2371 (and the event of the show itself happened during it's very first mission.) it would mean 4 years passed since the last part of the story happened which seem a pretty big timeskip so I think Zephyr is indeed on the Billings right now.
That pretty much everything we know about it.
Since the voyager was build in 2371 (and the event of the show itself happened during it's very first mission.) it would mean 4 years passed since the last part of the story happened which seem a pretty big timeskip so I think Zephyr is indeed on the Billings right now.
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Qoheleth
Archivist
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- Any
It's a neat theory, but, uh...
- Location
- Belgium
Ugh…I really need that change of glasses.
Crazael
Rehydrated Demon King
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- Lost to the vagaries of time.
Zephyr - "Well, back in my time, we were developing robots that doctors could remotely control to perform surgeries via telepresence. I figured I'd give you something like that."
EMH - "Thank you, Lieutenant. Though it is quite strange to have a physical body."
- Location
- Toronto
If they're igniting the warp core for the first time it's definitely the shakedown cruise, and they've probably only just left the shipyards (since igniting a warp core isn't something you wanna do near anything breakable in case it does fuck up).
Which means that if this is a version of the USS Voyager that was only just built, and they knew Zeph was going to be aboard as chief engineer? There's a solid chance that accommodations for their Draconic crew member were included in the specs!
Would also increase the reasons for Zephyr to think of it as his ship, if it's the first ship built with dragon sized turbo lifts.
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I mean, yeah, there's nothing *inherently* required for them to look like Data, but they *have* to be human shaped, as that's a requirement of them being Soong-style Androids, and at that point, why would you invent new faces for a mass produced and expendable robot?
Plus, we literally see them multiple times in the Picard Show, the Starfleet Androids are incredibly similar to Data, if not outright having the same physical look.
It's only the Android Planet Androids that look different, (even though they all come in pairs because Treknobabbe)
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- Omniverse #1345
This is likely a case of the ship being Voyager in-name-only, because Zephyr is getting up there enough in rank they will actually make sure he's assigned a ship that accommodates him more reasonably than Voyager would in canon.
Janeway/Grey could easily be a case of ripples causing her to not get the final promotion to captain before Voyager's shakedown cruise, as she seems to be at her immediately-prior rank and position.
The name Voyager here does come with an unspoken promise of delta-quadrant escapades, and I doubt Hiver is going to pull that bait and switch, but it may take a bit to reach that point
Janeway/Grey could easily be a case of ripples causing her to not get the final promotion to captain before Voyager's shakedown cruise, as she seems to be at her immediately-prior rank and position.
The name Voyager here does come with an unspoken promise of delta-quadrant escapades, and I doubt Hiver is going to pull that bait and switch, but it may take a bit to reach that point
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6 of 12
New species encountered…
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Designating…
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Species designation (9420)
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WARNING UNIT LOSS 4 of 2 high shearing force
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Bio scan…
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Negligible results…
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Scanner scattering evident…
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Nanoprobe insertion…
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Nanoprobe contact confirmed…
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Species sonic communication (9420) -Ow quit it you beetleborg motherfucker-…
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WARNING UNIT RESTICTION 6 of 12 horizontal experiencing compression.
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Species sonic communication (2000) -You sure sitting on her going to stop them assimilating you-…
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Nanoprobe contact failure…
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Failure possibility's
-destruction by internal biological systems 84.6%
-destruction by internal technological implants 9.3%
-destruction by undetected psionic means 6%
-destruction by (1372) 0.1%
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Species sonic communication (9420) -Yeah probably my system is hyper aggressive-…
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Species sonic communication (2000) -We should probably just phaser it or you could chomp it like the last one-…
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Species sonic communication (9420) -Just watch the door I've got this one the gimp is sleeping-
Yeah don't know where I was going with this.
New species encountered…
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Designating…
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Species designation (9420)
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WARNING UNIT LOSS 4 of 2 high shearing force
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Bio scan…
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Negligible results…
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Scanner scattering evident…
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Nanoprobe insertion…
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Nanoprobe contact confirmed…
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Species sonic communication (9420) -Ow quit it you beetleborg motherfucker-…
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WARNING UNIT RESTICTION 6 of 12 horizontal experiencing compression.
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Species sonic communication (2000) -You sure sitting on her going to stop them assimilating you-…
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Nanoprobe contact failure…
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Failure possibility's
-destruction by internal biological systems 84.6%
-destruction by internal technological implants 9.3%
-destruction by undetected psionic means 6%
-destruction by (1372) 0.1%
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Species sonic communication (9420) -Yeah probably my system is hyper aggressive-…
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Species sonic communication (2000) -We should probably just phaser it or you could chomp it like the last one-…
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Species sonic communication (9420) -Just watch the door I've got this one the gimp is sleeping-
Yeah don't know where I was going with this.
I paused in surprise on my way down the corridor on the way to the turbolift, "Dinah? What are you doing here?"
She grinned as she headed towards me, "Just got transferred onboard," she said. She looked different to when I saw her last. She had put on some more muscle and her previously long black and curly hair now only reached shoulder length.
I lowered my head to bump my snout against her shoulder, but I didn't get that far before she smacked my nose.
"It's been years and I have gotten... what, two messages?" she said with a scowl, "What the hell!"
"...Sorry," I said and cringed back slightly, "I spent a lot of time out of contact. But I could have done better."
Dinah was right to be pissed, I had promised I'd stay in contact, but that was before I ended up on an SI research blacksite. We literally didn't have access to send messages!
"Damn right you could have," she said before she smiled and held her hand out.
I lowered my head to bump my nose against it and she slid it up to scratch between my eyes, "Missed you," I admitted.
"Missed you too, Zeph," she said and smiled, "And look at you, Lieutenant! Chief engineer even!"
"You're a lieutenant as well."
"Junior grade, you're the full thing," she pointed out with a smile, "So what have you been doing? You were very vague in what messages you did send."
I shook my head, "A lot of it is classified, but it was mostly engineering stuff. Even if I could tell you, it would sound a lot more exciting than it really was. I spent most of my time staring at screens or poking around in workshops."
"You like staring at screens and poking around in workshops."
"...Well, yes, but you would find it boring."
"True," Dinah agreed and then leaned to the side to peer past me, "Wait, is that.. Huginn and Muninn?"
I shifted closer to the wall, "It is. Do you like the new version?" I asked, "Huginn, step up."
Huginn walked past me to stand before Dinah. The drone faced her, arms at its side. They both wore what were fully black rankless starfleet uniforms. Usually I had just left the faces as blank metal with some sensors attached, but apparently humanoids found that unsettling, so I had sculpted them to be somewhat draconic in appearance, relocating optical sensors to where the eyes should be and all that.
"Wow," she said and raised a hand to poke it between the eyes, "...How smart are they? Which version is this?"
"Smarter than they used to be," I said, "Mostly capable of autonomous operation but I wouldn't trust them for anything complicated. These would be MK19, they can go a full week without a recharge during normal operation. It's the reason I stopped with the antigrav, it was just too much of a power hog. They're actually based on Doctor Soong's work."
"Like Commander Data?"
I mimicked a shrug with my wings, "Yes and no. They're not running a positronic matrix. But in addition to their normal processors, they do also make use of a bioneural gel pack for fuzzy logic. Works pretty well. Smart enough to follow commands."
She slowly nodded, "So not sentient?"
"Not yet. It's a work in progress," I said and then tilted my head in thought, "...And as practical as that would be, it's ethically problematic to take them that far even if I could. They are meant to be assistants after all."
Dinah nodded again, "So... if they're that capable, are we getting more of them?"
"That is one part I worked on I can discuss," I said happily, "The MK18 is currently undergoing testing for manual labor roles that require a humanoid body plan as well as personal assistants. They're not as smart as these, but more than capable of simple tasks."
"Really? Wow!"
I bumped my nose against her shoulder, "Soon they will be available for anyone that needs them, from mining operations to supporting people in their daily lives. I have already arranged for one to be delivered to Becca as soon as they clear testing."
Dinah grinned, "Wow, that's so cool! Seriously, what are you doing here!? You should be running a department somewhere!"
I shook my head a bit, "Got bored."
"Got bored? You're literally changing the fabric of society! If they pass testing, they'll be everywhere in a couple of years."
Snorting, I shook my head again, "Not what I joined Starfleet for, I joined to explore. Besides, my drones were just a private side project. Nothing says I can't keep working on those here as well."
Dinah stared at me for a second before she raised her hand to scratch the top of my nose again, "Well... I'm glad to see you again."
"What about you?" I asked, "You stayed on the Enterprise for a bit?"
"I did," she agreed, "Even after the entire... well... you know," she said with a small frown, "Borg thing, it was still the best assignment I had. Working on the Enterprise was amazing. But my tour there ended and I got a transfer to Starbase Fifteen. Came with a promotion, I did security at the docking arms there. Got put in charge of about a quarter of the docking slots."
"That's a big job."
Dinah nodded, "Certainly kept us busy," she agreed before she blinked, "...You were going somewhere, am I keeping you?"
"Status meeting with senior officers in thirteen minutes," I said and bared my teeth slightly, "Don't like meetings. I'll likely just send one of the drones in the future most of the time, but I figure I should attend in person now when we have a mostly full complement of personnel for the first time."
Dinah nodded again, "I heard we're picking some more up later after the shakedown cruise," she agreed, "Talk to you later, okay?"
"Definitely," I agreed and headed on before pausing when I reached the turbolift, "Huginn, Muninn, return to my quarters," I said.
Squeezing into a humanoid sized turbolift was cramped enough even without them following around. I didn't see myself needing them for this anyway.
The drones wandered off and I squeezed into the lift, letting it take me to deck one before heading to the meeting room just off the bridge.
I was actually only the second person to arrive, "Commander," I greeted her.
Lieutenant-Commander Kathryn Janeway looked up from her PADD, "Lieutenant," she greeted me in turn and got up, "Good to finally meet you in person."
She was a human woman of slightly below medium height with red hair pulled back into a kind of bun, wearing a uniform with the blue shoulders of science. She was the ship's chief science officer.
I nodded and lifted my right paw, offering a claw to shake, "Same, sir," I said, "Things have been a bit hectic."
She smiled and carefully took my claw, "So I understand," she agreed, looking up at me, "...Say, I have to ask... turbolifts?"
"Very cramped," I said and lowered my paw back onto the floor, "Humanoids are tiny. I can access most decks through the cargo lifts however, so it's not so bad."
Janeway nodded, "I imagine it would be like living in a Jefferies tube. Not sure I could do that," she admitted.
"Holodecks and other open spaces help, and it's not too bad. Combining a pair of quarters into one and putting it in a place that can give me a bit of extra headroom puts it within calculated living space for my species," I told her seriously, "I want to explore, this is the price I have to pay."
"You plan to attend meetings via video link in the future?" she then asked, picking her PADD back up.
I shook my head, "No, I'll likely send a drone and use it as a remote presence. It's more natural for people to interact with."
"Drone?" she asked, but that's as far as she got before Commander Cavit walked in to join us, "Commander," she greeted him.
He's a tall human male with dark hair, greying towards the temples. He was the ship's first officer.
"Commander," he said, giving us a nod, "Lieutenant. Captain is running a couple of minutes late. Coffee anyone?"
"Yes please," Janeway said with a smile, "Lieutenant?"
I shook my head, "No thanks. Never got a taste for it and it does nothing for my species. But I wouldn't mind a bowl of water."
Bloodwine would have been nice, but replicating bloodwine was just wrong.
She grinned as she headed towards me, "Just got transferred onboard," she said. She looked different to when I saw her last. She had put on some more muscle and her previously long black and curly hair now only reached shoulder length.
I lowered my head to bump my snout against her shoulder, but I didn't get that far before she smacked my nose.
"It's been years and I have gotten... what, two messages?" she said with a scowl, "What the hell!"
"...Sorry," I said and cringed back slightly, "I spent a lot of time out of contact. But I could have done better."
Dinah was right to be pissed, I had promised I'd stay in contact, but that was before I ended up on an SI research blacksite. We literally didn't have access to send messages!
"Damn right you could have," she said before she smiled and held her hand out.
I lowered my head to bump my nose against it and she slid it up to scratch between my eyes, "Missed you," I admitted.
"Missed you too, Zeph," she said and smiled, "And look at you, Lieutenant! Chief engineer even!"
"You're a lieutenant as well."
"Junior grade, you're the full thing," she pointed out with a smile, "So what have you been doing? You were very vague in what messages you did send."
I shook my head, "A lot of it is classified, but it was mostly engineering stuff. Even if I could tell you, it would sound a lot more exciting than it really was. I spent most of my time staring at screens or poking around in workshops."
"You like staring at screens and poking around in workshops."
"...Well, yes, but you would find it boring."
"True," Dinah agreed and then leaned to the side to peer past me, "Wait, is that.. Huginn and Muninn?"
I shifted closer to the wall, "It is. Do you like the new version?" I asked, "Huginn, step up."
Huginn walked past me to stand before Dinah. The drone faced her, arms at its side. They both wore what were fully black rankless starfleet uniforms. Usually I had just left the faces as blank metal with some sensors attached, but apparently humanoids found that unsettling, so I had sculpted them to be somewhat draconic in appearance, relocating optical sensors to where the eyes should be and all that.
"Wow," she said and raised a hand to poke it between the eyes, "...How smart are they? Which version is this?"
"Smarter than they used to be," I said, "Mostly capable of autonomous operation but I wouldn't trust them for anything complicated. These would be MK19, they can go a full week without a recharge during normal operation. It's the reason I stopped with the antigrav, it was just too much of a power hog. They're actually based on Doctor Soong's work."
"Like Commander Data?"
I mimicked a shrug with my wings, "Yes and no. They're not running a positronic matrix. But in addition to their normal processors, they do also make use of a bioneural gel pack for fuzzy logic. Works pretty well. Smart enough to follow commands."
She slowly nodded, "So not sentient?"
"Not yet. It's a work in progress," I said and then tilted my head in thought, "...And as practical as that would be, it's ethically problematic to take them that far even if I could. They are meant to be assistants after all."
Dinah nodded again, "So... if they're that capable, are we getting more of them?"
"That is one part I worked on I can discuss," I said happily, "The MK18 is currently undergoing testing for manual labor roles that require a humanoid body plan as well as personal assistants. They're not as smart as these, but more than capable of simple tasks."
"Really? Wow!"
I bumped my nose against her shoulder, "Soon they will be available for anyone that needs them, from mining operations to supporting people in their daily lives. I have already arranged for one to be delivered to Becca as soon as they clear testing."
Dinah grinned, "Wow, that's so cool! Seriously, what are you doing here!? You should be running a department somewhere!"
I shook my head a bit, "Got bored."
"Got bored? You're literally changing the fabric of society! If they pass testing, they'll be everywhere in a couple of years."
Snorting, I shook my head again, "Not what I joined Starfleet for, I joined to explore. Besides, my drones were just a private side project. Nothing says I can't keep working on those here as well."
Dinah stared at me for a second before she raised her hand to scratch the top of my nose again, "Well... I'm glad to see you again."
"What about you?" I asked, "You stayed on the Enterprise for a bit?"
"I did," she agreed, "Even after the entire... well... you know," she said with a small frown, "Borg thing, it was still the best assignment I had. Working on the Enterprise was amazing. But my tour there ended and I got a transfer to Starbase Fifteen. Came with a promotion, I did security at the docking arms there. Got put in charge of about a quarter of the docking slots."
"That's a big job."
Dinah nodded, "Certainly kept us busy," she agreed before she blinked, "...You were going somewhere, am I keeping you?"
"Status meeting with senior officers in thirteen minutes," I said and bared my teeth slightly, "Don't like meetings. I'll likely just send one of the drones in the future most of the time, but I figure I should attend in person now when we have a mostly full complement of personnel for the first time."
Dinah nodded again, "I heard we're picking some more up later after the shakedown cruise," she agreed, "Talk to you later, okay?"
"Definitely," I agreed and headed on before pausing when I reached the turbolift, "Huginn, Muninn, return to my quarters," I said.
Squeezing into a humanoid sized turbolift was cramped enough even without them following around. I didn't see myself needing them for this anyway.
The drones wandered off and I squeezed into the lift, letting it take me to deck one before heading to the meeting room just off the bridge.
I was actually only the second person to arrive, "Commander," I greeted her.
Lieutenant-Commander Kathryn Janeway looked up from her PADD, "Lieutenant," she greeted me in turn and got up, "Good to finally meet you in person."
She was a human woman of slightly below medium height with red hair pulled back into a kind of bun, wearing a uniform with the blue shoulders of science. She was the ship's chief science officer.
I nodded and lifted my right paw, offering a claw to shake, "Same, sir," I said, "Things have been a bit hectic."
She smiled and carefully took my claw, "So I understand," she agreed, looking up at me, "...Say, I have to ask... turbolifts?"
"Very cramped," I said and lowered my paw back onto the floor, "Humanoids are tiny. I can access most decks through the cargo lifts however, so it's not so bad."
Janeway nodded, "I imagine it would be like living in a Jefferies tube. Not sure I could do that," she admitted.
"Holodecks and other open spaces help, and it's not too bad. Combining a pair of quarters into one and putting it in a place that can give me a bit of extra headroom puts it within calculated living space for my species," I told her seriously, "I want to explore, this is the price I have to pay."
"You plan to attend meetings via video link in the future?" she then asked, picking her PADD back up.
I shook my head, "No, I'll likely send a drone and use it as a remote presence. It's more natural for people to interact with."
"Drone?" she asked, but that's as far as she got before Commander Cavit walked in to join us, "Commander," she greeted him.
He's a tall human male with dark hair, greying towards the temples. He was the ship's first officer.
"Commander," he said, giving us a nod, "Lieutenant. Captain is running a couple of minutes late. Coffee anyone?"
"Yes please," Janeway said with a smile, "Lieutenant?"
I shook my head, "No thanks. Never got a taste for it and it does nothing for my species. But I wouldn't mind a bowl of water."
Bloodwine would have been nice, but replicating bloodwine was just wrong.
ASumatranTiger
Why wasn't the chicken able to cross the road?
- Location
- In a house
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- He/Him
What kind of drink is that?
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
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- They/Them/It
Klingon thing. I've always assumed it's exactly what it sounds like.
- Location
- france
Which means it's fermented animal blood...
The Klingons have a touch of Irish in their design, don't you think?
Oh, and also, blood meal (fermented animal blood) is used... as a fertilizer...
I really hope the Klingons use alcohol from a plant origin to improve the recipe... especially the taste.
JmonsterNEO
Spouter of nonsense
- Location
- The quest forums
So they're essentially little kobold drones now?
Bloodwine is a popular Klingon alcoholic drink traditionally served warm in a drinking horn like vessel. It is nearly outright toxic as a substance, having twice the strength of whiskey, making it possibly capable of making Zephyr actually drunk.
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- State of Confusion
Which could be quite the achievement, because it could mean it's as high as 184% ABV.
Realistically, whoever originally penned that comparison doesn't know how potent whiskey can get, so bloodwine is probably 'just' 80% ABV.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/They
Realistically, it's probably got either a stronger intoxicant than ethanol, or (more likely) a synergist or intensifier along with its ethanol, so that despite being "just" 80% [whatever]BV, it is in fact twice as strong of an intoxicating beverage as whiskey.Which could be quite the achievement, because it could mean it's as high as 184% ABV.
Realistically, whoever originally penned that comparison doesn't know how potent whiskey can get, so bloodwine is probably 'just' 80% ABV.
Silverias
Seeing is Believing
- Location
- Squiddy Places
It's also possible it has the intoxicants besides alcohol?Which could be quite the achievement, because it could mean it's as high as 184% ABV.
Realistically, whoever originally penned that comparison doesn't know how potent whiskey can get, so bloodwine is probably 'just' 80% ABV.