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I'm pretty sure the Phalanx was already at Cadia and played a part in wrecking the Blackstone Fortress that Abby had crash onto the planet
The Radiant Shepherd - A Warhammer 40K God-Emperor Quest
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[X] Plan Gold and Green
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It arrived after, if I remember correctly.
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According to Battlefleet Gothic 2, the Phalanx was the one that rendered the BF inoperable after some space wolves managed to board and disable its shields. Then Chaos rams it out of orbit to hit Cadia.
In an ideal scenario, we REALLY want to steal it back. Talismans of Vaul are potent indeed and not explicitly Chaos corrupted.
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But arguably worth it to put out a lot of brewing fires, or at least decapitate them for the regular forces to clean up. Maybe not now, but...
[X]Plan: Blessings and Visions
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We'd need to have the information to give the Assassinorum in-character, which would require a whole lot of Observe actions.
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And even then, there are some targets that the Assassinorum just can't reach. Like I doubt they could touch Abaddon, Huron, Imotekh, and Gazghkull
We can use them to deal with the Severan Dominate and end it rather quickly. But yeah besides that I am not sure who else to send them against.
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Major Genestealer cults. Ork Waaaghs like the Arch-Arsonist.
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[X] Plan: Let bless the fortunate and observe the without
I encountered very interesting quest.
I encountered very interesting quest.
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The Black Templar flagship, Eternal Crusader , is a Gloriana as well. And is about to fuck up the day of some Cythor Fiends
Red Tear status is...unclear
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Theirs also a Gloriana class ship owned by the Nemesis Chapter, the Lex Talonis. As well as almost half a dozen other ships, like the Flamewrought, Amphion, Truth's Razor, Fist of Iron, and the Hrafnkel. These are more unclear on everything post heresy, but they have never been mentioned as destroyed, so they have likely either been put back in storage, or owned by separate other chapters as Relicquary ships owned by the original 9 founding chapters.
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Funny about the Lex Talonis is that it was captured from tne Word Bearers.
Isnt the Flamewrought gone missing and is count as one of 9 Artifacts of Vulkan, Russ takes the Hrafnkel into the Eye of Terror, Fist of Iron is scuttled in Istvaan 5, and Amphion probs still guard Battlefleet Solar
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Again, the Severan Dominate is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Really not worth our attention.
The real tricky part is finding the Genestealer Cults before they kick off, and Ork Warbosses tend to always be in the thick of it and Orkz tend to be pretty decent at detecting if sumthin's not Orky enuff,
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[X] Plan Gold and Green
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Question...
Can we get Trajan to revise the limit on Astartes chapters having 1000 marines.
I have a feeling a lot of the chapters would be better off with a better supply of 'reserves'.
Mayhaps not full legions (its been too long, and things have deteriorated to far for that to be brought back just yet), but at least expansions to 5,000 - 10,000 marines. Mars would have trouble restocking the marines with new equipment, but it might just be enough for them to investigate the automated mass manufacturies they used up until Guilliman restricted the total number of Astartes to 1 million (who typically only need munitions, and the odd armour top up, hence why the tech he limited to them has atraphied so much [why keep all those jetbike manufactorums going when the white scars are finding ways to bring down their numbers to meet Guillimans quotas, and have enough left over to last them a millenium]).
Because yes it was Guilliman who brought in the restriction, but surely the 'voice of the emperor' has the power to act as the 'regents regent'.
[X] Plan: Let bless the fortunate and observe the without
Can we get Trajan to revise the limit on Astartes chapters having 1000 marines.
I have a feeling a lot of the chapters would be better off with a better supply of 'reserves'.
Mayhaps not full legions (its been too long, and things have deteriorated to far for that to be brought back just yet), but at least expansions to 5,000 - 10,000 marines. Mars would have trouble restocking the marines with new equipment, but it might just be enough for them to investigate the automated mass manufacturies they used up until Guilliman restricted the total number of Astartes to 1 million (who typically only need munitions, and the odd armour top up, hence why the tech he limited to them has atraphied so much [why keep all those jetbike manufactorums going when the white scars are finding ways to bring down their numbers to meet Guillimans quotas, and have enough left over to last them a millenium]).
Because yes it was Guilliman who brought in the restriction, but surely the 'voice of the emperor' has the power to act as the 'regents regent'.
[X] Plan: Let bless the fortunate and observe the without
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Theoretically? Yes. Practically? No.
The issue is one of politics. The High Lords are inherently first and foremost concerned with their own power over and above anything else, and that's not really a personal indictment so much as it is the nature of a deeply corrupt and utterly rotten (not that it'd be any better without the corruption but that's a separate point) system like the Imperium. You protect your fief, or you get it carved out from under you.
From that perspective, they're unlikely to wqnt more Astartes. It's a fairly direct threat to their control, since they've seen just thjs century (recently in terms of high level Imperial politics) what rogue Space Marines can do. Imagine if the Astral Claws had 20k Marines, they'll be thinking.
Trajan can say it's the Emperor's word, of course, but they in turn only really have his word he's telling the truth, so can easily argue that he's gone mad and can be ignored. We could always have him bring the High Lords to us and commune with them ourselves, but that'd get expensive fast since I'm fairly surr we can't commune with small groups.
Lifting the Decree Passive of the Custodes is a fundamentally easier sell, of course. It doesn't really make them more of a political threat, and its more an internal Custodes matter than something they really need to sign off on anyway.
And finally, there's a question of if this would even be worthwhile. Raising the cap on Marine numbers will have a decades-long lead time to see initial results, and our primary concern is the upcoming Black Crusade. Doing stuff for the rest of the Imperium to preserve and free up forces isn't a bad idea, but it can't be the only thing we do or even really the main thing, otherwise none of it's going to matter when Abaddon shows up and breaks the planet open like an egg.
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I understand that. But still, should we encounter Guilliman, and after hes purged the High Lords, this is something we will be jamming into his thick skull like a jackhammer.
The state of the Imperium is directly his fault despite his best intentions, and while yes he can try reform it, or shove primaris towards the chapters as a stop gap. He actually needs to repeal the restrictions he put on the imperium that allowed its military to be crippled in the first place. Will it cause problems? Yes, but in the nightmare that is to come (regardless of what happens on cadia), the Imperium's full potential needs to be unleashed.
Restore the legions (legion master Dante, a triarchy of Lysander, Helbrecht and Pedro; etc) expand the chapters, allow the Imperial guard to have combined arms regiments. remove the stupid ban on standard humans fielding 'astartes grade weapons', like Fellblades, Land Raiders/Speeders...
Oh and tell his blue berries to stop their infernal chanting
(Yes all of this sounds extreme and rocking the boat, but if you asked a layman of the imperium, be they a beast man or a member of the high lords, what they'd expect with the return of a primarch, let alone more than one - this is pretty much it, regardless of how 'okay' they are with how things are. The only things that would cause true issues would be the ecclesiarchy/imperial truth, and getting the mechanicus to share some of their hoarded technology)
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legions frankly are not needed, the Space marines do more good spread out hitting a dozen problems at once, then just one. No enemy is able to muster the amount of forces that requires entire legions. At most raise the chapter numbers to 2,000.
For the High Lords we should do what was meant and, grow the numbers massively. The problem is to much power concentrated in to few hands, instead of just a dozen people at the top it should be 10,000 at a minimum.
For the High Lords we should do what was meant and, grow the numbers massively. The problem is to much power concentrated in to few hands, instead of just a dozen people at the top it should be 10,000 at a minimum.