The Practice War [Complete]
- Thread starter Snowfire
- Start date
- Original Sci-Fi
I think it was actually that stuff was already compromised before the Vault was created, so then those compromised portions went crazy when the Vault got sealed.
As I understand it, Hardware-level shiplord exploits got triggered when the Vault was closed, and they tried to brick everything. The caretaker AI responded by sealing the Relequeries, and was torn to pieces in the process. Active shiplord measures were not involved.
Mizu
Software Developer
- Location
- Victoria, Australia
to becoming more
all of them were.
[1] Let's Be Careful
[2] Order in Harmony
[3] Faith in Circles
[4] The Cutting Edge
[5] Sword of Humanity
[6] Lessons from the Black
[2] Order in Harmony
[3] Faith in Circles
[4] The Cutting Edge
[5] Sword of Humanity
[6] Lessons from the Black
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Now, how exactly worked that 'Restore'? Because just rewinding to before everything was wrecked would mean the SL exploits and routines were back, also. But then we wouldn't get access because they would trigger again. So, 'Restore' restored the archive back to the status it should have had, not the one it had.
- Location
- Earth Aleph
Many actions unlocked
.... for our last turn
@Snowfire considering that we will likely only have 1 year at Arcadia (max 2), are the turns going to stay at a year or is it going to change to a higher frequency? Say 6 or even 3 month?
And yes, I am assuming that we get very involved with diplomacy with the new arrivals as I can't recall anyone expressing a preference of Arcadia over Babylon, let alone a majority. Just for my curiosity, can anyone who prefers to continue Arcadia rather than Babylon speak up?
.... for our last turn
@Snowfire considering that we will likely only have 1 year at Arcadia (max 2), are the turns going to stay at a year or is it going to change to a higher frequency? Say 6 or even 3 month?
And yes, I am assuming that we get very involved with diplomacy with the new arrivals as I can't recall anyone expressing a preference of Arcadia over Babylon, let alone a majority. Just for my curiosity, can anyone who prefers to continue Arcadia rather than Babylon speak up?
ConfusedPotato
Unverified Verifier
- Location
- Australia
[1] Let's Be Careful
[2] Order in Harmony
[3] Faith in Circles
[4] The Cutting Edge
[5] Sword of Humanity
[6] Lessons from the Black
[2] Order in Harmony
[3] Faith in Circles
[4] The Cutting Edge
[5] Sword of Humanity
[6] Lessons from the Black
Or, Vision immediately stomped any SL stuff that was brought back. But yeah, I'mma go with it's
I love Vega's "FU Shiplords, you don't get to win this."
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
We bascially voted for 'Let's research Practice as the main thing our character does'. Practice restoring something to the intended state, not the historical one would be a valuable data point.But yeah, I'mma go with it'smagicPractice, don't gotta explain anything.
The vote between Arcadia and Babylon was back in July, where a large group (17 to 10) voted to carve out our own SCIENCE fiefdom out of public funds at the expense of everything else. As far as I can tell the reasoning went that:
1) AmandaxMary OTP
2) Science is more important than anything else.
3) Amanda needs more of a break from politics than two years.
4) Even if we don't choose Ever Present we'll still be allowed to get all the benefits of Ever Present for free (access to Second First Contact, unobstructed access to the Vault and the Red Tower, ability to affect areas of government that we didn't carve out for ourselves, etc) because... I'm not sure why.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
We fixed the red tower without creating 2nd secret tech.
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
a) has anybody looked (in the sealed areas)
b) isn't that interesting?
Practice (seems to be) is available to persons willing to sacrifice anything (a lot) for humanity, and Practice doesn't produce unintended negative consequences (any examples where it did?). So, Practice is guided, likely(possibly?) not only by the Practice user.
a) Yes; we in fact spent quite some time doing so. Mary was quite insistent (and remains so, as of Turn 14).
b) Yes it is, very much so.
And of course Practice is guided by more than the user. How on Earth do you think Prologue, a highly-advanced medical application of the Sixth Secret, was made before we even knew that the Sixth Secret was 1) possible, 2) a thing that can be used medically? This whole universe is intelligently designed, right down to the Void Secrets having actual ordinal numbers; you can't possibly escape that there's a guiding intelligence behind everything we're allowed to do.
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
But there's a qualitative difference between 'take into account the stated intent' (Prologue), and 'avoid consequences not thought about that may be bad for humanity' (Skylark, the Restore). Or am I overinterpreting things?
Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
- Location
- Wordcats
That...isn't what you think it was. As long as the Streetwise action continues to exists - which it did as of Turn 14, and continues to do so now - you haven't entirely checked Skylark for possible Second Secret technology. That the Tribute Fleet didn't appear to detect any is pretty much irrelevant. You're pretty sure that there isn't any, but that isn't the same as being certain.
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Of course, it could still be Practice taking into account the subconscious desires of the Practice user and interpreting them benevolently.
And whatever may be the case, the user itself is not stopped from hurting himself by using Practice.
- Location
- Earth Aleph
Hm... I remembered that as a 'what do we want to do in the near future' vote before we knew when the aliens were gonna show up.
We knew the aliens were going to show up fairly soon after the Second Battle of Sol back in Turn Five. We've been preparing for them since Turn 11. We had been amply informed about the inevitability of Second First Contact by the time the decision of what to do with our time came up.
Edit; Relevant quotes from the post where we voted for Arcadia:
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What makes you think we have 1-2 years a Arcadia?
We have a break from everything for 1-2 years (which we will use to e.g. visit family); Arcadia is what we are committing to do after the break.
Structure is not particularly evidence of design. The secrets having ordinal ranks is no more indicative of a "guiding intelligence" than atoms having ordinal ranks as given by their atomic number.
Baughn
Healing-type writer
- Location
- Dublin
Atoms have ordinal numbers because we gave them to them. Sure, we were just counting protons, but still. And the proton-collection itself follows simple rules.
Secrets have ordinal number because... uh, apparently there are laws of physics in this universe that say, and I quote, "Although the Sixth Secret can in many ways mimic the Second Secret's abilities, at first glance it appears hampered by the complexities of needing to program the nanotechnology to execute its particular role. In truth, this limit should probably also apply to the Second Secret, but it doesn't."
That's the Second Secret, and it's definitely the Second. It could never have been anything else. The researchers who discovered it, found it was most definitely Second.
That's strong evidence of design. The secret itself already is, even without the ordinal, but the ordinal clinches it.
Decim
On again, off again lurker.
- Location
- St. Louis, MO
We already know the god who designed this quest's universe. The god's name is Snowfire.
In what way? All it implies is ORGANIZATION, which is by no means the same thing.