These combinations are a really bad idea. Trying to promote a big change in society like the Third Revolution, which has been specifically called out as having a backlash against it, without championing a spokesperson who is truly passionate about it and willing to make it their primary focus, like Adriana wants to, is just begging for it to fail. What these choices mean is that Amanda will have to make it her primary public focus instead; that means giving up on group Practice, being the public face of the 223, or really advocating for anything else in the public sphere since we'll have to spend so much time flogging this particular issue in the public eye.

I'm curious as to why so many of you are voting in this direction?
I think it's because I found the vote options kinda mind-boggling the way they were written, so my thought process went something like:
- Okay, so these options are for tech shinies? Well we're sure gonna need those in the future, so put those on the list.
- One last concert for old time's sake? Sure why not.
- Ooh, waifu + daughteru times, definitely grabbing those! ;)
- Making Potentials OP even more OP? Yeah that'd be cool.

And so everything else kinda fell down the list. This is why I don't usually vote in these kinds of quests :V

I am kind of intrigued by the argument of deliberately hamstringing the revolution so it happens at proper pace... but that'd probably just result in a half-arsed job more than anything.

[1] Vega – Link Secrets
[2] Adriana – The Third Revolution
[3] Adriana – Tradition in Service
[4] Vega – Circles in Harmony
[5] Kazuki – Songs of the Heart
[6] Mary – Minding Iris
[7] Vega - Stepping to Unity
[8] Kazuki – Confirmation
[9] Adriana – Chosen Successor
[10] Mary – Convincing Candidates
 
I honestly don't think rushing the 3 revolution is good idea , expecially when most people don't like it as Adriana is too into it. If we let it happen naturally it will be better and I personally don't want to support her , she will focus too much on it and not enough on other problems.
I am kind of intrigued by the argument of deliberately hamstringing the revolution so it happens at proper pace... but that'd probably just result in a half-arsed job more than anything.
What we're actually seeing isn't a rational response; after all, we've had the entirety of the scientific community putting massive amounts of resources into years-long studies to prevent the sorts of problems that the average layperson just thought of, along with a whole host of problems they didn't think of. What we're seeing is a kneejerk emotional response, a backlash against change because change is uncomfortable and new. That kind of thing has a tendency to snowball out of control if not nipped in the bud hard; I don't think I need to list recent high-profile examples, given how many of them there are.
 
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What we're actually seeing isn't a rational response; after all, we've had the entirety of the scientific community putting massive amounts of resources into years-long studies to prevent the sorts of problems that the average layperson just thought of, along with a whole host of problems they didn't think of. What we're seeing is a kneejerk emotional response, a backlash against change because change is uncomfortable and new. That kind of thing has a tendency to snowball out of control if not nipped in the bud hard; I don't think I need to list recent high-profile examples, given how many of them there are.
I agree. We need to stop that in its tracks; that's more important than actually implementing the technology.

It won't hurt much if the implementation is delayed, but a backlash could do serious damage.
 
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"Thank you," he chirps. "Oh, and-- I apologise for this. I'd say I'm terribly sorry, but it turns out I'm not sorry at all."

...oh for f-



Threadmarked.

As I promised several months ago in regards to Omakes, you now have One (1) Interlude request that may pick any of the leftover options from after the Second Battle of Sol, or you you can ask for something else (within reason) as a focus. Just as a reminder, these are the remaining options from the SBOS interlude choices:

  • Promised Victory - A human perspective to the Second Battle of Sol, will extend into the wider reaction of humanity.
  • The Blood of Red Sands - A deeper examination of the ground battle that took place around Skylark

Other options would include:

An Alien perspective, possibly giving cultural snippets or insight into how the polities you've seen in the Alien Reactions interlude went about putting their contact mission together. A perspective like this would expand your knowledge of the polity, probably their opinions of their fellows, and also give a viewport into how they worked around the Shiplords (and the degree to which they are are aware of Shiplord oversight). Polity options at present are as follows:
  • Nilean Community: the species who hacked the Shiplord Relay. Haven't had to fight a war in a very long time from what Alien Reactions says. Leads a multi-species polity. Highly skilled intelligence operatives, have maintained the security of their borders using information instead of firepower.
  • Cich'swa Confederacy: a multi-species polity with clear heavy integration of its member races. Peacefully expansionist.
  • Sarthee: One of the only 'warrior' species that survived the tests of the Shiplords, and the oldest of the Group of Six. Extensive military power, but their star appears to be waning now with the growth of a sizeable Uninvolved movement.
  • Schorvan: Least expanded of the Group of Six, appears cautious.
  • Marionettes: Displayed historical knowledge on the matter of Tribute Fleet defeats, beyond that of other races. Seem to have some ability to 'cheat' where biological reactions are concerned. Reference to genetic knowledge.
Interludes from the perspective of Uninvolved are denied. Other possibilities do exist, however.

Let me know what you'd like. Everyone else? I'll be pasting this list somewhere else and threadmarking it. Consider it motivation :p

Current Tally:

Vote Tally : Original - Sci-Fi - The Practice War | Page 287 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 7167-7201]
##### NetTally 1.9.9

[1] Adriana – The Third Revolution
[2] Mary – Convincing Candidates
[3] Vega – Link Secrets
[4] Vega – Circles in Harmony
[5] Mary – Minding Iris
[6] Kazuki – Confirmation
[7] Adriana – Chosen Successor
[8] Kazuki – Songs of the Heart
[9] Vega - Stepping to Unity


Total No. of Voters: 14
 
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Heeeey, I'm back-
"I," Iris's voice broke off as Sidra whispered another number into your mind and you fought to keep your expression under control. "Then I should look the part," there was a long pause, "shouldn't I?"
(Iris gains trait: Child of Terra. Iris gains trait: Mothered by the Heart)
-oh sweet Jesus yes.
For the future, however, he asked a simple thing; that you would return to the stage beside him for one last concert during the years of your sabbatical. It could have been about your influence, and the publicity you both knew it would bring such an event, but that would have been doing him a disservice. You'd learnt a huge amount of the performer's trade from him, and it had been together that you'd woven a song of unity so deeply into the fabric of the world. Another opportunity to do so was hard to resist.
And we also get a Magical GirlTM​ idol tour. Hell yeah-
The next thing that's going to have to go is Songs of the Heart. Sorry, Kaizuki, but the whole reason we're taking this sabbatical after the Presidency, other than battery recharging and finally researching those Practiced items we have in our pocket and haven't used, is to get out of the public eye and give the new President room to capture the public imagination; going on an idol tour is kind of the exact opposite of that.
-curse you and your logic!!!! :mad:

[1] Mary – Minding Iris
[6] Mary – Convincing Candidates
[2] Adriana – Chosen Successor
[3] Vega - Stepping to Unity
[4] Vega – Circles in Harmony
[5] Vega – Link Secrets
[7] Kazuki – Confirmation
[8] Kazuki – Songs of the Heart
[9] Adriana – Tradition in Service
[10] Adriana – The Third Revolution



Combined time with Mary and Iris? Locked.
Magic stuff? Locked.
And then everything else, I guess.
We need more "magical girls". Gender of the "magical girl" not important:).
You. I like the way you think.
 
That doesn't even make sense :confused:
That depended on how secrets are implemented. There's obviously intelligence somewhere in there, and from how you described the Second in particular, it takes care of a lot of the details.

Sixth Secret nanotech is limited by needing to program it, Second Secret biotech isn't, even though biotech is just nanotech by another name. I would not have been surprised if you asked me to get out of your notes. If the Second Secret per se is unintelligent though, then... hmm. That has implications of its own.

Thanks for the info! :rofl:

I think I'd find the Sarthee or the Nilean Community most interesting. Not sure which one, but... eenie meenie... Nilean community, please?

We already know they've tapped a Shiplord relay or two. They're probably the best connected group on your list. It'd be interesting to see what sort of wasp's nest we've stirred up.

(Iris gains trait: Child of Terra. Iris gains trait: Mothered by the Heart)
Um, what do these do?
 
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I would not have been surprised if you asked me to get out of your notes.

Well, that went without saying :p That said, from the records that survived, the Second Secret was complex to implement in its own way, but creating true life was a lot simpler as you were already working with the organic building blocks. Why that's easier than creating beings like Iris and Vision, well.

Um, what do these do?

You'll find out what these traits mean down the line

;)

I think I'd find the Sarthee or the Nilean Community most interesting. Not sure which one, but... eenie meenie... Nilean community, please?

We already know they've tapped a Shiplord relay or two. It'd be interesting to see what sort of wasp's nest we've stirred up.

'aight. I'll see about getting that done before I close out this vote.

P.S. you should vote
 
[1] Adriana – The Third Revolution
[2] Mary – Convincing Candidates
[3] Vega – Circles in Harmony
[4] Kazuki – Songs of the Heart
[5] Vega – Link Secrets
[6] Adriana – Chosen Successor
[7] Mary – Minding Iris
 
Well, that went without saying :p That said, from the records that survived, the Second Secret was complex to implement in its own way, but creating true life was a lot simpler as you were already working with the organic building blocks. Why that's easier than creating beings like Iris and Vision, well.
Presumably because we already have a base to work off.

A hypothetical Silicon lifeform, though? Perhaps the 6th secret might come more naturally.
 
Voting, right...

[1] Adriana – The Third Revolution

We need this one. Even without Adriana's other initiatives, but especially if those go through, there are a number of failure modes that we absolutely have to avoid. This will help.

[2] Adriana – Chosen Successor
[3] Mary – Minding Iris

In the same vein, Iris is the first true AI we've created, as opposed to discovered. It helps that she's also fun to read about, but from an optimising perspective she's someone who will be seen as representative of those changes. It'll help if she's also seen as adorable and competent. It'll help more if she's seen as part of Amanda's extended family.

The only reason I didn't include her in the omake is that I want more of a feel for the character first. There definitely will be a follow-up if this option makes it. :)

[4] Mary – Convincing Candidates
[5] Vega – Circles in Harmony
[6] Vega – Link Secrets

There's a lot of potential here. Superintelligence per se appears to be nonexistent in this universe, and it will take a while before even the kind of near-telepathy enabled by the Unison system is generally available, but it's aiming in the right direction. If possible, I don't want humanity to be eclipsed by its creations.

(Though if we must, then let's make those creations human.)

[7] Adriana – Tradition in Service
[8] Vega - Stepping to Unity
[9] Kazuki – Confirmation
[10] Kazuki – Songs of the Heart
 
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Interlude: Consensus
Neras Emergence Starhome Alternate Nutrient Source Advised
Location Unknown


You floated in the deep dark, only the faintest light of decades past glinting on the surface of your home. Almost two weeks by the measure of Earth in that vast emptiness, waiting patiently for others to come; little surprise you'd grown lonely as the days ticked by. Out here, there was no central star, or planets to judge the passage of time by eye, and a Starhome was far smaller than those. Half again the size of a Collector, yes, but when distance made even the stars small?

But your people had mastered a way to step across those distances a long time ago, and space rippled as fellows flickered between the Void. Twelve Starhomes snapped into existence around the Alternate Nutrient Source Advised, and a flurry of acknowledgements and welcomes spun between them. A full choir had answered the call, as you'd hoped at the same time as worrying that there would have been too little time for one to muster. Yet here they were, and there was a pleasant surge of warmth as you recognised the Single Action Retrograde Enabled among them. It was rare for growth-sibs to meet in the grand sweep of the galaxy.

More signals flashed between you and the choir, and thirteen ships so large as to almost defy the term swung gracefully in towards each other. A long time ago, this would have been much messier, but you'd learnt better ways since those early days. Six limbs stretched out from the skin of your home, linking with matched growths from your temporary companions, for this was too precious to be trusted to wireless transmissions. The link buzzed for a moment in your minds, then vibrant thoughts burst across it from the other minds who had joined you, and you lifted your own consciousness to meet theirs. For all the theatre of its formation, there was no faster, or safer way for the Emergence to share experiences than this.

Shock echoed in the link at your actions in the last part-cycle, but it settled as they recognised your reasons. It was rare indeed for anything so complex to be left behind, and curiosity had always been a defining trait of your species. The question now was what to do with it. The works of the latest growths of galactic life were simple enough to access, but it was rarely a question of 'could we' for the Neras. The question today, as it almost always would be, was 'should we'.

As the one who'd found the curiosity, it was expected that you would support opening it, yet you were conflicted. The blossoms of the six growths that had come together aboard you so many times were a regular source of mass, but for something to be brought and then left for the purge meant that its contents were seen as deathly dangerous. Maybe even something to do with the lost ones, but how the younger ones could have found that data…was a matter for another time.

Thought and feeling poured across the link, a freewheeling debate of more than just words, but it wasn't without purpose. A consensus formed, slowly but steadily, between the choir; to open the chip and see what the Nilean's had discovered. Another race might have erred on the side of caution, but it was so rare now for true curiosities to come calling, and this was definitely one of them. To simply let it lie? That wouldn't do at all.

Your growth-sib confirmed the agreement, and you signalled acknowledgement, extending miniscule parts of yourself into the access port on the Nilean datachip. Power pulsed through the interface point, bringing the storage to life, and you opened your view of it to the rest of the choir. They would see whatever was here at the same time as you; so that each would be able to form their own opinions in the pursuit of a consensus.

A twist here, and the encryption fell apart, and then the data were clear.

Oh.

Oh my.

You hadn't expected anything like this.

***​

Many moments later, the intricate web of links between you and the other Neras broke apart, the growths returning to the skin of the Starhomes, and power flickered to life at the core of every member of the choir. What you'd found had been interesting, but the possibilities of it, for the lost blossoms and ones who'd picked them, they were fascinating.

Two of your fellows vanished across the Void, charting new paths as you reached for your own, the power woven through you forging a bridge across the stars. You didn't use it yet, however, still deep in conversation with your growth-sib. Single Action Retrograde Enabled would take what you had discovered here and carry through the consensus. Three more Starhomes vanished as you said your goodbyes, and another five followed as you double-checked your own destination. Spending so long in one place wasn't likely to set you wrong, but it was safer to be sure.

By the time that was done, you were the only one left in that place of black and starlight, but you wouldn't have time to be lonely again. You set the image of your path in your minds, a thriving system of another of the youngest growth, and then the bridge was there. An instant of connection, but that was enough; these bridges cared not for the weight they bore.

And the light of old stars shone once more, alone across the deepest dark.
 
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No @Baughn, this isn't your Interlude, sorry to disappoint :p

I've had this interlude planned for a while now, actually, but I actually sat down and wrote it over the last two days. Just my luck that someone decides to make an omake that means they get an Interlude of their choice on the same day as I finish it :lol It was a lot harder than I'd anticipated, as I'm used to trying to give you knowledge on what's going on instead of being obscuring throughout, but I think it came out alright. Hopefully you'll agree!

Tally for the night:

Vote Tally : Original - Sci-Fi - The Practice War | Page 287 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 7167-7213]
##### NetTally 1.9.9

[1] Adriana – The Third Revolution
[2] Mary – Convincing Candidates
[3] Vega – Link Secrets
[4] Vega – Circles in Harmony
[5] Mary – Minding Iris
[6] Adriana – Chosen Successor
[7] Vega - Stepping to Unity
[8] Kazuki – Confirmation
[9] Kazuki – Songs of the Heart


Total No. of Voters: 17

I'll probably leave this up until tomorrow afternoon, maybe a little longer. Call it sixteen hours or so until the vote closes.
 
[1] Adriana – The Third Revolution
[2] Adriana – Chosen Successor
[3] Mary – Minding Iris
[4] Mary – Convincing Candidates
[5] Vega – Circles in Harmony
[6] Vega – Link Secrets
[7] Adriana – Tradition in Service
[8] Vega - Stepping to Unity
[9] Kazuki – Confirmation
[10] Kazuki – Songs of the Heart

Or, you know, my single vote will get voted down. :p
It's a double vote now.
 
Hmm. A few very interesting tidbits here, among the greater interest of seeing a bit of how the Neras think:
Maybe even something to do with the lost ones
What you'd found had been interesting, but the possibilities of it, for the lost blossoms and ones who'd picked them, they were fascinating.
Two references to "lost"; I wonder if they mean the Uninvolved, or the species killed by the Shiplords?

You set the image of your path in your minds, a thriving system of another of the youngest growth, and then the bridge was there.
Hm, and not in our direction it seems, since this interlude was, apparently, only a few weeks after the other alien interlude, itself a mere eight months after the battle of Sol. So we're talking mid Year 11; why are they taking so long?

We now have no Kazuki actions at all.
Not ideal, I think.
Yeah, kind of disappointed in the lack of Kaxuki: Confirmation votes. We need good diplomats, and that's his Ministry. It's not quite as important as making sure Adriana keeps the Sixth Secret from being banned by a luddite backlash, but it's close.
 
Great interlude, by the way!

So we now have a race living in the deep dark, one the ship lords don't not want other races to know about, interested in us.

This should be... interesting...
 
[3] Adriana " The Third Revolution
[8] Adriana" Chosen Successor
[2] Mary" Minding Iris
[10] Mary" Convincing Candidates
[5] Vega" Circles in Harmony
[4] Vega" Link Secrets
[7] Adriana" Tradition in Service
[6] Vega - Stepping to Unity
[9] Kazuki " Confirmation
[1] Kazuki " Songs of the Heart

I really want to do songs of the Heart it's both the most meaningful action and the action that we would enjoy the most. More then that there's a difference between politician and singer and our music has become incredibly important to us and the world.

edit: could someone use an interlude to do a non canon songs of the heart if it loses.
 
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