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Piccolo is now about three times stronger than we are in our strongest form.
Namekian fusion is one hell of a drug.
The Life of a Half-Saiyan (Thread1) (DBZ)
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Namekian fusion is one hell of a drug.
I'm not sure we could straight up murder him. His PL is 90000 compared to our 12000. While we might be able to make up for the PL gap thanks to some Yellow and a good but of LEGEND, it would probably just bring us level, for while we are STRONG, Piccolo actually knows how to fight and do a lot of shit we don't
Though, I'm curious what he will try to do in his training of us. For if he just does the shit he did with Gohan canonically, Gossard is in NO WAY going to accept that shit, and fight him every step of the way, and very likely break the planet.
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I hope not Piccolo is one of my favorite characters and might be able to relate with our darker urges. Also @lordchaos99 Piccolo does not wish to kill people and wants to conquer the Galaxy these two goals kinda clash a little bit
Also can we make Piccolo our second minion after Gohan? A Lord does require subjects and vassals to rule overI personally think this timeline is fucked. Piccolo will eventually do something that will piss off Gossard enough that the planet goes bye bye. IE hurting bulma or taking him away from his mother.
I think he mostly wants to conquer the World/Galaxy because that's what his dad wanted to do, so of course he wants to do that too, and put no further thought into the subject.I hope not Piccolo is one of my favorite characters and might be able to relate with our darker urges. Also @lordchaos99 Piccolo does not wish to kill people and wants to conquer the Galaxy these two goals kinda clash a little bit
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Good thing for him we are perfectly willing to do it for him free of charge so he can have a clean conscience aren't we so nice and compassionate of other people's problems
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Only problem is, there's no way we'll let him be the one in charge. We aren't conquering the planet/galaxy for him, we're doing it for ourselves.Good thing for him we are our perfectly willing to do it for him free of charge so he can have a clean conscience aren't we so nice and compassionate of other people's problems
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It was a joke on us conquering the Galaxy and ruling over it instead of him. As for what to do with him he does not really want to do it so finding something else for him to do won't be to much of a problem along with how unimaginably terrifying we will be should persuade him otherwise. or we could just have him serve us directly. Or I am completely wrong about this like I am of many things
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Despite Gohan's potential or Saiyan traits its already been established the little brother does not think like Gossard who is far into Saiyan instincts. Even worse other Saiyans acting like Gossard should just reinforce the idea that Gohan is less Saiyan in mind.
Its not just the problem of Saiyan traits breeding out over the generatiosn rather the fact Gossard should naturally want to see more of his own kind. In fact I believe he would seek to ensure a hybrid population simple because trying to identify too closely with classical Saiyans will lead him to remembering he is not one and that they nearly died which is bad for his ego.
Gohan doesn't act like Gossard, but that doesn't mean Gossard acts like a Saiyan. He's a LEGEND after all, he'd kinda insane. Most Saiyans are probably far more moderate.
lordchaos99
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Piccolo is the son/reincarnation of the Demon King, that has been his sole defining feature for his entire life.
His father wanted to conquer Earth, he wants to conquer earth. And doesn't contemplate if he really desires that.
He has every memory his father had, and memories can include emotions. But he was a full person, unlike Demon King Piccolo.
He thinks he should be like his dad. But isn't at all.
His dad wanted to be Evil, because that's what his father made him to be.
Daddy Issues two generations down.
In Canon he trained to surpass Goku until Raditz showed up.
Then he grabbed Gohan to get revenge on Goku, get an Enforcer and train up a guy to help deal with Nappa and Vegeta
But then he became a Dad and realised he wasn't his Father, he was his own person. One that could live on the Earth without conquering it. Also SOMEONE needed to look after the Kid
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Heartwarming. But how likely is it to happen here? I want Green!Dad but I also want Bulma to interject with all the tech at her disposal.
There's also the fact to consider that Piccolo's TrainingTM that he subjected Gohan too, we'd in NO WAY accept. We have ridiculous amount of pride, something I see causing HUGE trouble.
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Nice analysis and Gossard definitely needs someone to watch over him.
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If Piccolo phrases it in a way that the training is necessary for us to grow in Power I think Gossard might accept it. I don't think he would have issues with Training From Hell. Now the authority issue you got me there
lordchaos99
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The issue is more that Piccolo's training worked for a scared child who hadn't tapped his Fighting Heritage
A Ki-using flying Gohan who already got a significant portion of that initial training won't have need for it
And Gossard would laugh while detonating the mountain and asking for a real challenge
Because they think Piccolo is an automaton with only one "Train monkeychild" program
Pretty likely? Bulma doesn't have the lead time Gero had or the training and Piccolo would keep an eye on her, because holyshit did that kid build a gun, I was gone 20 minutes!
And she isn't quite good enough at Saiyan or Half-Saiyan biology to flashclone 90K Ki troops
She does have Plans but unfortunately you didn't pick an option last turn that would have made the whole thing go faster. So Piccolo has more time with you to become Green!Dad
Huh, I just realized odds are good we'll come to like Piccolo a lot better than Goku. As long as Authority Issues don't spring up, that is. For unlike Goku, Piccolo is actually strong, stronger than us even (but who knows for how long). And he has a lot of cool techniques we can get him to teach us (like CLOTHES BEAM!). And he isn't BIGRIVAL so doesn't have the instinctual dislike that Goku does. The main thing Piccolo DOES have against him, is the vague memory of the Green Man taking our GREEN, and some potential personality clash.
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@lordchaos99 what does dreaming of murder give and what is the Cyan energy and transformation also would this work to stop us from doing Evil shit
lordchaos99
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Since you can't pick Dreaming, I'll spoil it (it was until your 3rd birthday or started Training, and Piccolo won't let you daydream)
Conquest gave you Willpower, as you decide you need to rein yourself in to conquer rivals rather than brutally murder them Every time
Murder gave you a mini-Event that could lead to unlocking the Cyan Aura skill like the Green, Orange and Yellow or it could lead to a few other things (Telepathy for instance) but Cyan would have been the best outcome
Cyan is Spoilers
You only know about it because when you overload the Yellow form your hair cycles through the colours + Cyan
But it's the colour of the ??? Aura, and is the x2 transformation
They do sound like decent outlets. Not a complete outlet, but combined with plenty of meditation and other things it works.
Though cooking would get dull for you without either competition or the ingredients putting up a decent fight, or preferably both.
Also being smart isn't bad, remember you prefer crushing people, not the hobby for its own merit. Even if you never lose a chess game, provided you can tell the opponent is skilled and trying, you will always enjoy crushing them into the dirt and winning decisively.
It just means you will also seek out stronger opponents to crush decisively. Doesn't matter if you never find them
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Damnit. Was going to push for that this turn.
Oh well. At least we can get started on transformations since I think those raised willpower if we can control them? And we have piccolo to stop us.
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Slave, is save with an added L.
Mostly kidding, although I would like to point out that we don't necessarily have to destroy them to conquer them. We just have to demonstrate our superiority, and win their hearts.
A dictator is just a slightly aggressive politician with a bad PR manager. We just need a good campaign slogan, and good
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First we start by conquering the worst dicktatorships, in a display of overwhelming power. Then we let the rest of the nations surrender and fall in line with the new regime, and if they don't we'll just make an example out of their governments.
The hard part is of course doing all of this without our parents finding out. And then finding someone to do all of the paperwork.
Just Saiyan, you don't necessarily have to put the brakes on this crazy train.
What's the point of being a LSSJ if there's no conquest to be had?
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Fun times. Re-fused Piccolo is far too strong for Gossard to take head-on without doing something drastic, and is a skilled veteran with hundreds of years of combat experience. Providing he doesn't Limit Break at the idea of someone he's unable to kill, this'll probably be a cool opportunity for us; his moral struggle is comparable to ours, and he has Kami and the Unnamed Namekian's memories now balancing out his Dad's, so I don't think he'd be as slow to take to us as canon Piccolo was.
Hopefully he doesn't screw up and forget Oozaru is a thing. He might be able to handle a vanilla Gossard Oozaru, but if Gohan goes at the same time or we get any sort of boost from a different ki type, things are going to go dangerous, fast. Not to mention even if Piccolo can handle it, the Earth might not.
This is good information. Redirecting violent tendencies would be a huge help for us, regardless of how we might manage it.
...Oh god, I just realized how much a disaster it could be if Hercule ends up in an even vaguely comparable situation as in canon.
Fair question. Personally I think it's just more Dragonball-y for our ultimate Gossard to be the type that commands respect, admiration and fear despite not having any real title, (political) power or position to his name, because he doesn't need any of that stuff.
I mean, Frieza runs a space empire and he's a chump, while the actual God of Destruction spends his time napping and eating. Which would we prefer to be like?
Hopefully he doesn't screw up and forget Oozaru is a thing. He might be able to handle a vanilla Gossard Oozaru, but if Gohan goes at the same time or we get any sort of boost from a different ki type, things are going to go dangerous, fast. Not to mention even if Piccolo can handle it, the Earth might not.
This is good information. Redirecting violent tendencies would be a huge help for us, regardless of how we might manage it.
...Oh god, I just realized how much a disaster it could be if Hercule ends up in an even vaguely comparable situation as in canon.
Fair question. Personally I think it's just more Dragonball-y for our ultimate Gossard to be the type that commands respect, admiration and fear despite not having any real title, (political) power or position to his name, because he doesn't need any of that stuff.
I mean, Frieza runs a space empire and he's a chump, while the actual God of Destruction spends his time napping and eating. Which would we prefer to be like?
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lordchaos99
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Oh, Ive been struggling with statting the Great Namek form, anyone want to give critique?
You grow in size and become stronger without increasingly Power Level or becoming slower.
So, kind of weird in my system
Transformation:
Great Namek: By infusing your regenerative powers through your body you supercharge it, growing to an intimidating height. The greater bulk grants you toughness without being unwieldy. For the purposes of Strength only, reduce your Ratio by 20
Basically a 40% increase in Punch, Kiblast and HP
You grow in size and become stronger without increasingly Power Level or becoming slower.
So, kind of weird in my system
Transformation:
Great Namek: By infusing your regenerative powers through your body you supercharge it, growing to an intimidating height. The greater bulk grants you toughness without being unwieldy. For the purposes of Strength only, reduce your Ratio by 20
Basically a 40% increase in Punch, Kiblast and HP
Should probably apply a limit to how long you can be in it else all fights would be fought using it, as well as a minor decrease to dexterity simply because its easier to hit a bigger target.
lordchaos99
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Demon King basically lived in the form. It might have once had that limitation but DK trained it out
And it greatly reduces their ability to regenerate, as all that energy is used maintaining the transformation