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Telekinesis is psychic bullshit while Magic is the science of Concepts. Lord Slug was using the former.
The Life and Times of a Half Saiyan King (Thread2)
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lordchaos99
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No-one is fucking with Gossard's mind. Any fucking is actually happening. Someone is messing with how Ki is detected, not just for them but also others.
It wasn't effective, you tricked him into coming into your mind. You also needed to drop down to Base before you could launch into False Saiyan, because False Gossard has Buffs in Telepath-Combat.
He can't steal moves mid-fight, he spent an action to recreate the Tenma Shield after he saw you use it in combat.
You have the better attack right now, basically auto-firing homing rockets.
You could earn the Copycat trait, just try to copy in combat.
I'd rather focus on the result. Do I get player interaction and quality omakes? Yes, so reward them.
I don't care why an Omake is written, only that it was written. Well no, obviously I'd rather get happy omakes than spiteful omake designed to roast my decisions, but thats still better than nothing.
No, if you have the Watcher all you get is 'Roll 2, take the Best' on Copycat rolls. Thats the extent of the buff.
Telekinesis isn't a Magical technique.
Users of TK in canon:
Piccolo
Vegeta
Goku
Frieza
Slug
Cell
Future Trunks
Soo many other people, though a few mentioned aren't using TK in this canon, like General Blue or Guldo (Paralysis with eyesight and TimeStop are Not the same thing as Telekinesis dammit!)
Also, there is some overlap with techniques (for example there is both Ki and Magic forms of Teleportation) but overall they are distinct.
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What I'm getting from this is wait until we're late teen/adult Gossard and then going back in time and beating kid Gossard up and getting him to just calm down. Teach him how to properly rule instead of not caring about his subjects.
Seriously a shit ruler doesn't care about his subjects and that seems to be what Gossard is heading towards. Survival of the fittest is cool and all but sometimes it isn't the right path. The sooner Gossard learns that the better.
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I just got a very bizarre case of double deja-vu from this post and i have no idea why...
Weird.
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Gossard for all intents and purposes cares only about his Momma, siblings and Mister Piccolo. At this point in time ruling as King of the earth is a afterthought that he just does to fill out his checklist. I don't think he really does care about being in charge. It's just a instinctive thing for him. If we want him to care we need to get him worthy subjects that he would want to be a great ruler for. So time to go friend/minion hunting sometime in the future. The more morality chains we bind him with the better.
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Morphic Tide
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Just don't try any romantic things. Because Gossard's psychology is purely Sayian, and we have been told a lot of times that Sayian romantic standards are entirely insane by human standards and would just make everything worse to try. Things that will help are cooperation, but Gossard is capable enough in almost everything that it's close to entirely unnecessary.
So pointless for Gohan since he always crits
That is a nice perk though. That means Gohan is gonna learn martial arts way faster than Gossard. Funnily enough at this rate Gossard is gonna be the weakest of his three siblings once Gottex becomes SSG.- Location
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Something to keep in mind I think is that while the Legend was a king. He was a conquering King who strode a path of carnage, a brutal warlord who ruled with the iron fist of battle, smiting all that opposed him with destructive might and terrible wrath. A demiurge who derived his authority from raging blood and fire.
Gossard is dealing with the instincts of a Legend who was awesome in his power and most likely very intelligent. But definitely not an virtuoso at diplomacy and non violent conflict resolution or not being a barbaric mega dick. Gossard views the world as they which is within his divine grace and that which is not.
That which is not is filthy heresy to his vision of the universe and must be obliterated. The world is his to toy and break as he pleases. The trick to making Gossard good is the power of Love and Friendship. So far we have Gohan and Gottex to give us a reason not to indulge ourselves. Bulma might not care if we destory the world and Piccolo is still undecided on being a good guy.
We need to expand on that and gather more precious people that will keep him on the straight and narrow. There's one flaw to that though in that if said loved ones are damaged and or harmed Gossard pun intended will go ape shit. As for romance we just need to find some girl with oviarys of steel. I'd suggest hiring a psychiatrist but Sayian psychology and all that.
Gossard is dealing with the instincts of a Legend who was awesome in his power and most likely very intelligent. But definitely not an virtuoso at diplomacy and non violent conflict resolution or not being a barbaric mega dick. Gossard views the world as they which is within his divine grace and that which is not.
That which is not is filthy heresy to his vision of the universe and must be obliterated. The world is his to toy and break as he pleases. The trick to making Gossard good is the power of Love and Friendship. So far we have Gohan and Gottex to give us a reason not to indulge ourselves. Bulma might not care if we destory the world and Piccolo is still undecided on being a good guy.
We need to expand on that and gather more precious people that will keep him on the straight and narrow. There's one flaw to that though in that if said loved ones are damaged and or harmed Gossard pun intended will go ape shit. As for romance we just need to find some girl with oviarys of steel. I'd suggest hiring a psychiatrist but Sayian psychology and all that.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Gohan gets a trait like that. He's already fought Gossard three times during his rampages. It's kinda his thing at this point
If nothing else Gottex and Gohan will stop him if he decides to try to break the planet. Gohan will do it because that's literally all he's done his entire life. Gottex cause she's Kami and she can't be Kami if Gossard breaks her planet
Piccolo might not be a good guy, but he is after conquering the planet/galaxy not destroying the whole thing.- Location
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That's like four people and Bulma. The more people who can reason with Gossard and explain to him why that is bad the better.I wouldn't be surprised if Gohan gets a trait like that. He's already fought Gossard three times during his rampages. It's kinda his thing at this point
If nothing else Gottex and Gohan will stop him if he decides to try to break the planet. Gohan will do it because that's literally all he's done his entire life. Gottex cause she's Kami and she can't be Kami if Gossard breaks her planet
lordchaos99
(I have left SV)
>Implying Bulma is a good influence
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She'l stop us from killing her friends at least?
If anything she wouldn't even stop us. She'd just make sure we'd be smart about it. She's not even against us blowing up Mars or taking over the planet going by old posts. Bulma is just as crazy as everyone else only she's smart about it
I think we know everyone that matters to her by this point. Unfortunately for the rest of the world, they are not Bulma's friends so they're just PREYTHINGS.
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So in conclusion we need to find a super duper good person to befriend to balance out our negative kaema. That and figure out what made the First Legend. What was was thier life like? Did they suffer a lot of misery or fall in love, feel despair as they lost what was precious to them. Where they evil, good or something in between.If anything she wouldn't even stop us. She'd just make sure we'd be smart about it. She's not even against us blowing up Mars or taking over the planet going by old posts. Bulma is just as crazy as everyone else only she's smart about it
I think we know everyone that matters to her by this point. Unfortunately for the rest of the world, they are not Bulma's friends so they're just PREYTHINGS.
Did they have a family of some kind, what were they like personally and so on. By understanding the orgin of the Legend and it's purpose Gossard will know himself better and hopefully be less likely to Rip and Tear the Galaxy a new asshole. As is we should countune our practice of mediation to gain greater self control and it helps with shaping Ki as well as Magic probably.
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Meh we've already maxed out meditation, I'm not picking it again unless Gossard is undergoing stress and trauma. Much prefer mastering Green and Orange as well as unlocking Gold. Also I don't see why we have to turn Gossard into a good person, he's much more interesting this way. I don't mind turning preythings into playthings and eventually loyal subjects. But I don't want to make him treat others like his equal.
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I want mediation for Murder Zen mode in combat for style. As for us being good don't worry about me ever wanting that I am always going for the most Legendary option of creative mass destruction and wanton slaughter. Morality pets are just to make sure he stays stable and charcter interactions. Seeing how Gossard would treat friends not his brother or sisters is interesting to me.
DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
ALL HAIL THE KING!!
FOR HE IS LEGEND!
FOR HE IS LEGEND!
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Gohan seems to be the person right now. He's probably not the most good person Gossard will meet in life, but he's the only that can beat Gossard down if Gossard goes to far.
Going by Lordchaos's statement this is gonna be an uphill battle. Legendary Saiyans are kinda crazy to put it lightly. The First Legend looks like the Saiyan mindset dialed up to 11. The morality pet thing is going to work though so time to collect morality pets for Gossard.
Unfortunately playing Gossard as a good guy is kinda hard. The best we can aim for is a "mildly sadistic anti-hero" as Lordchaos put it. Playing a moral character would have met picking Gohan or Gottex at the start and we kinda missed that boat.
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lordchaos99
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For example, you were mildly curious about the odd Ki flow of the Troops. So you removed the head and neck of the first troop to approach you in order to examine it.
Then threatened to devour each and every one if Lord Slug didn't come out to face you, while you ate said first troop.
You see nothing wrong with that. It's logical AND nutritious, though you are mildly disappointed you couldn't try Alien Sandwich.
Then threatened to devour each and every one if Lord Slug didn't come out to face you, while you ate said first troop.
You see nothing wrong with that. It's logical AND nutritious, though you are mildly disappointed you couldn't try Alien Sandwich.
Basically this is Gossard's mindset in a nutshell. He'll do things that are inhuman, but perfectly normal for a saiyan.
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And I love it. We need more quests with amoral PCs.
DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
...Honestly I am fine with that..
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You know we either save slugs kids for Piccolo to subsume to get stronger or should Gossard eat them to see what Namekian tastes like? We could probably maim them, rip off their arms and stuff. Try them that way. They'll regen from that.
>implying bulma isn't a good influence. Look at vegeta. He's practically saiyan father of the year.
Also, man deja vu. The quest just started and people are already salty
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Why not both? We got more than enough Namekians to go around