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I wonder what our actions have done to the Riverlands?
They seem to be the Poland of Westeros. And that brings odd things.
They seem to be the Poland of Westeros. And that brings odd things.
The Dragon Ascendant: NO SV: Welcome To Another Viserys Targaryen Quest (A Ck2 Quest)
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Well, Tell that to Martin Luther.
Henry the VIII.
Or any of the other post CAtholic and orthodox denominations.
And tell me that they didn't just say "Fuck the Church!" and do their own thing.
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Looks at rolls.
Oh...
OH!
Huh, I didn't expect that sort of shit to go down in Riverlands. but I also didn't expect Edmure to be wholeheartedly supporting that shit.
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We are in need of Protestantism
Ed is channeling his inner Tully and doing something unexpected…Yey!
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I don't think starting a religious war in Westeros is a good idea. at least not this generation.
After, let it be our sons problem.
Ironically enough, it might actually be a good thing.
At least he isn't fucking up the entire fabric of Westerosi society...
At least... I hope he isn't.
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I disagree, the great thing about religions with a clear leadership and hierarchy, is that if you control the head you mostly control the whole religion...
If you go for the Universal Priesthood route, the chances of having a charismatic MOFO who can fuck things up increase a lot.
You forgot to mention that none of those guys had dragons (AKA coolest WMD in Fantasy)
It worked really well with Meagor...
We don't want to start a war... But a good old fashioned Purgue sounds great.
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Yeah, but the problem with purging is, if we leave any alive that aren't totally fucking terrified of us, we will make an enemy with an institution that will really fucking end our families time in the sun.
Plus you know... what happens in the future, if we have another Baelor?
Well Meagor also was kinda... really fucking insane and paranoid at the end of his life. At least however, he did very good things like defang the Faith.
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It is not like you can only purgue an institution once...
Either that or make sure that the guy who is not afraid of us shares our vision on how the Faith should be and make him high septon
Hopefully the Faith that we leave behind will be so different that it wouldn't really matter
And since we have melted the Iron Throne, the influence that turned a traumatised young man who seek some answers in religion, into a religious fanatic who locked away his sisters because "they could be a temptation for men" and staved himself to death
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Well good news:
We've got a few names.
Bad news... The mainline Faith do not like these boys whatso ever, for their "Low status"
and "Lack of a Sept"
Fuck them, Meribald is the best therapist in Westeros.
With what we might do (what we can do), we'll make Maegor the Cruel look like Baelor the Blessed by comparisson.
Baelor could have actually been a damn fine king.
Too bad his trauma turned him into a fanatic, and his idea of good rule was... "Theocracy"
Baelor being a man who chose peace over war.
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Oh, it is a shame that we can't remove them, or make something about it..
Oh wait, we are the fucking King of Westeros, we have loyal military forces, dragons, the smallfolk loves us, and we are not afraid of playing dirty or soaking our hands in blood...
So why is that a problem again?
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Because the Faith need to elect our men. and the problem is, most of the time, those men, are from royal or noble houses.
And by god, they will need to be campaigned for heavily.
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Well, at least he had a damn good Hand... The Best One, actually
Or we can Blackmail them...
We own all the brothels in King's Landing, after all
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I mean... I would argue that Viserys the I was not the best hand. If he was, perhaps Baelor could have stayed alive and not died.
Or prevented his son from fucking over the realm by... fucking every girl in the realm.
Well the current High Septon is known for his... Worship of the Maiden.
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I have already told you, @Magoose Septon Ray is basically Meriabald 2.0... He has the same wisdom, kindness, humility, skill as a therapist, reasonable views about religion, and the same ideas of what the Faith should be... But he has a much better sense of humor, and he is significantly better looking and classier (he is the goddammed Ian McShane)
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Brother Ray is the next High Septon if I have anything to say about it
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Small Council (At least it can't grow any smaller)
Hand of the King: Jaime Lannister (Your Hand, your guard… Your Best Friend)
Master of Laws: Eddard Stark (The Only man you can trust, it feels, outside of family).
Master of Coin: Mace Tyrell (He's… a Lord)
Master of Ships: Rodrik Harlaw (The only Smart Ironborn alive it seems.)
Master of Whispers: Oberyn Martell (You are starting to think he's both insanely competent, and far to passionate about his job)
Master of War: Stannis Baratheon (The Greatest General Westeros has ever seen)
Grand Maester: William "Bill" (He's as strange as you.)
Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Barristan Selmy (Grandfather Barristian Semly. Or as Dany and Egg call him: Barry the Bold, the not too old to take your Gold… and Barry the Scary)
Kingsguard (Viserys Ten)
Barristan Selmy (Lord Commander) (Barry the Scary)
Brynden Tully (We should call him the White Fish now. It's far more appropriate)
Arys Oakheart (Arianne's Favorite.)
Mandon Moore (The Silent, perhaps the scariest man in the Guard.)
Jaime Lannister (Needs no introduction)
Asher Forrester (That grin and Beshka are either going to get him killed, or make him a legend)
Harras Harlaw (The Other Smartest ironborn, that isn't a woman or the Reader)
Jon Connington (Egg calls him his father. He also has a lot of things now All of them good)
Imry Florent (That boy is so… boring. He claims it's a life skill to be so boring, being around Stannis so much)
Robar Royce (That Rune on his armor freaks you out.)
Minor Offices
Lord Commander of the City Watch: Jacelyn Bywater (The last Honest Guardsmen in King's Landing. Also sometimes wears spectacles when reading.)
Master-at-Arms of the Red Keep: Bonifer Hasty (A True Knight of the Seven)
King's Justice: Sandor Clegane (A Good man, with violent tendencies… and a sour additude)
Major Bannermen
Lords Paramount
Lord Eddard Stark, Lord Paramount of the North (Winter is Coming)
-Relationship: Enthusiastic Support
Lord Hoster Tully, Lord Paramount of the Riverlands (Family, Duty, Honor)
-Relationship: Enthusiastic Support
Lord Jon Arryn, Lord Paramount of the Vale (As High as Honor)
-Relationship: Cold
Lord Rodrik Harlaw, Lord Protector of the Iron Islands (Fear the Reaper)
-Relationship: Enthusiastic Support
Lord Tyrion Lannister, Lord Paramount of the Westerlands (Hear Me Roar)
-Relationship: Dutiful Support
Lord Stannis Baratheon, Lord Paramount of the Stormlands (Ours is the Fury)
-Relationship: Dutiful Support
Lord Mace Tyrell, Lord Paramount of the Reach (Growing Strong)
-Relationship: Neutral Support
Prince Doran Martell, Prince of Dorne (Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken)
-Relationship: Enthusiastic Support
The Crownlands
Lord Protector Aurane Waters, House Velaryon of Driftmark (The Old, The True, The Brave)
-Relationship: Enthusiastic Support
Lord Ardrian Celtigar, House Celtigar of Claw Isle (Every Opportunity)
-Relationship: Enthusiastic Support
Lord Guncer Bar Emmon, House Bar Emmon of Sharp Point (Meddle Not With Us)
-Relationship: Cautious Support
Lord Guncer Sunglass, House Sunglass of Sweetport Sound (Catch the Light)
-Relationship: Cautious Support
Lady Tanda Stokeworth, House Stokeworth of Stokeworth (Proud to be Faithful)
-Relationship: Cold
Lord Maldon Massey, House Massey of Massey's Hook
-Relationship: Cold
Lady Tessa Rykker, House Rykker of Duskendale
-Relationship: Neutral
Lord Gyles Rosby House Rosby of Rosby
-Relationship: Cold
Lord Arstan Buckwell, House Buckwell of the Antlers
-Relationship: Cold
Lady Maia Hayford, House Hayford of Hayford
-Relationship: Enthusiastic support
Lord Éoland Wendwater, House Wendwater of the Wendwater
-Relationship: Dutiful support
Military
Dragonstone Garrison: Full Strength, Veteran
Red Keep Garrison: Full Strength, Veteran
City Watch: Fully Stregnth, Middling
Royal Fleet: Rebuilding, Veteran
Hand of the King: Jaime Lannister (Your Hand, your guard… Your Best Friend)
Master of Laws: Eddard Stark (The Only man you can trust, it feels, outside of family).
Master of Coin: Mace Tyrell (He's… a Lord)
Master of Ships: Rodrik Harlaw (The only Smart Ironborn alive it seems.)
Master of Whispers: Oberyn Martell (You are starting to think he's both insanely competent, and far to passionate about his job)
Master of War: Stannis Baratheon (The Greatest General Westeros has ever seen)
Grand Maester: William "Bill" (He's as strange as you.)
Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Barristan Selmy (Grandfather Barristian Semly. Or as Dany and Egg call him: Barry the Bold, the not too old to take your Gold… and Barry the Scary)
Kingsguard (Viserys Ten)
Barristan Selmy (Lord Commander) (Barry the Scary)
Brynden Tully (We should call him the White Fish now. It's far more appropriate)
Arys Oakheart (Arianne's Favorite.)
Mandon Moore (The Silent, perhaps the scariest man in the Guard.)
Jaime Lannister (Needs no introduction)
Asher Forrester (That grin and Beshka are either going to get him killed, or make him a legend)
Harras Harlaw (The Other Smartest ironborn, that isn't a woman or the Reader)
Jon Connington (Egg calls him his father. He also has a lot of things now All of them good)
Imry Florent (That boy is so… boring. He claims it's a life skill to be so boring, being around Stannis so much)
Robar Royce (That Rune on his armor freaks you out.)
Minor Offices
Lord Commander of the City Watch: Jacelyn Bywater (The last Honest Guardsmen in King's Landing. Also sometimes wears spectacles when reading.)
Master-at-Arms of the Red Keep: Bonifer Hasty (A True Knight of the Seven)
King's Justice: Sandor Clegane (A Good man, with violent tendencies… and a sour additude)
Major Bannermen
Lords Paramount
Lord Eddard Stark, Lord Paramount of the North (Winter is Coming)
-Relationship: Enthusiastic Support
Lord Hoster Tully, Lord Paramount of the Riverlands (Family, Duty, Honor)
-Relationship: Enthusiastic Support
Lord Jon Arryn, Lord Paramount of the Vale (As High as Honor)
-Relationship: Cold
Lord Rodrik Harlaw, Lord Protector of the Iron Islands (Fear the Reaper)
-Relationship: Enthusiastic Support
Lord Tyrion Lannister, Lord Paramount of the Westerlands (Hear Me Roar)
-Relationship: Dutiful Support
Lord Stannis Baratheon, Lord Paramount of the Stormlands (Ours is the Fury)
-Relationship: Dutiful Support
Lord Mace Tyrell, Lord Paramount of the Reach (Growing Strong)
-Relationship: Neutral Support
Prince Doran Martell, Prince of Dorne (Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken)
-Relationship: Enthusiastic Support
The Crownlands
Lord Protector Aurane Waters, House Velaryon of Driftmark (The Old, The True, The Brave)
-Relationship: Enthusiastic Support
Lord Ardrian Celtigar, House Celtigar of Claw Isle (Every Opportunity)
-Relationship: Enthusiastic Support
Lord Guncer Bar Emmon, House Bar Emmon of Sharp Point (Meddle Not With Us)
-Relationship: Cautious Support
Lord Guncer Sunglass, House Sunglass of Sweetport Sound (Catch the Light)
-Relationship: Cautious Support
Lady Tanda Stokeworth, House Stokeworth of Stokeworth (Proud to be Faithful)
-Relationship: Cold
Lord Maldon Massey, House Massey of Massey's Hook
-Relationship: Cold
Lady Tessa Rykker, House Rykker of Duskendale
-Relationship: Neutral
Lord Gyles Rosby House Rosby of Rosby
-Relationship: Cold
Lord Arstan Buckwell, House Buckwell of the Antlers
-Relationship: Cold
Lady Maia Hayford, House Hayford of Hayford
-Relationship: Enthusiastic support
Lord Éoland Wendwater, House Wendwater of the Wendwater
-Relationship: Dutiful support
Military
Dragonstone Garrison: Full Strength, Veteran
Red Keep Garrison: Full Strength, Veteran
City Watch: Fully Stregnth, Middling
Royal Fleet: Rebuilding, Veteran
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Let´s be honest except for Mace, our Small Council is fucking amazing (and let´s be real, we all know that he is not really in charge there)
Dammit, I wish that we have also recruited Ser Jorah... Viserys Eleven sounds much cooler... Well, we can always try to recruit Gendry or get
Jacelyn is totally commissioner Gordon now, and let´s hope that we can talk with Bonifer soon... Besides that, now that we have the Mountain let´s hope we can resove things peacefully, because Sandor and Oberyn want to kill him and they don´t like sharing
Well, everything here is as expected...
Well, most of the Crownlands support us, let´s hope we can change those cold and neutral opinions
Yeah, the unfortunate reality of having to dismiss most veterans of an institution because they were corrupt as fuck...
I am sure the greenhorns are doing their best, but we need to train them up to our standards ASAP.
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We have the most competent small council Westeros has ever seen and that is not something I say lightly.
Our men may not be the best in their given fields, but they are diligent as fuck in making sure things run smoothly.
We have but one problem with that: Jorah is off North doing gods know what while trying to control Maege from becoming a mother for the 5th time.
Plus Ned needs his man working to find… Littlefinger.
Jacelyn may be the Gordon but that totally means Mathos is the Bulluck.
And that either means fun time as ahead of the cesspool of our city will eat him whole.
Yep.
Soon.
Also the Crownland houses are a bunch of weirdos that will flock to us if we meet them any sort of way.
KLPD: We're not curropt the city is. TM.
Soon.
I mean counting Viserys himself there are 11 of them, which is certainly enough for a
Is it also the most skilled? Are there any people in history that would have higher skill levels individually in your opinion? Also, I know that everyone we picked is at the cream of the crop (hopefully) but what does the average Westerosi look like in comparison?
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Much to his own king's guards' dismay, because they want to keep him alive, and well. Because it's their job to protect him
Now if Daeron was threatened... magic powers or evil shadow assassins from the Faceless men won't be able to stop Viserys.
No seriously. V's magic when protecting his family is bullshit powerful.
No, not a chance in hell. Hell the most skilled was during the regency of the Aegon the 3rd. and they were fucking everything up and playing powergames.
The best council overall, was under, ironically enough, Daeron the Good, when Baelor Breakspear was hand. Because Baelor smash head was a fine hand... and kept Bloodraven in line. For what that is worth.
For one, Tywin Lannister, Daemon the Rouge Prince, and the Oakenfist himself. Those boys are in a league of their own.
Currently, Tywin, if you wanted to live dangerously. is the best hand alive, and with you on the throne, could see Westeros into a golden age, if you decide to restrain him.
Now not to say Jaime isn't competent, but he is no Tywin.
Now, if there was one thing I will say: Your council is not corrupt, or looking after familial interests but are looking after Westerosi interests. That is huge.
And while it may not lead to any nationalist sentiments or Pan Westerosi identity, it will most assuredly make progress.
The Averege Westerosi Lord, is around 10.
Averege Smallfolk... 5.
We are with the Creamdelacrem in terms of Advisors and court right now.
Though with the way the Riverlands is Rolling and how Edmure seems to have cultivated something terribly bad for continued stability...
He's also got himself a really really good fucking court.
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INB4 the Trees start speaking Welsh with the Longbowmen.
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it's more English, then Welsh.
But the Longbowmen is damn near spot on.
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Fuck... That is the Tully Gene taking over, isn´t it?
Damn those trouts, one moment you have a perfectly rational and intelligent human being... And suddenly, for no apparent reason, they do something so stupid that any 6-year-old could see how stupid it was, and that literally screws everything for everyone...
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Ironically enough, the people he hired are sane, sensible and loyal.
Just the ideas they are speaking are pretty insane by Westerosi Standerds.
What is... (Looks at rolls) Popular sovereignty and Accountable Government, and courts with a jury of their peers?
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