The Clans of Earth (Battletech/Mechwarrior X Mass Effect)

Chapter 10; A Brutal Morning
Chapter 10;
A Brutal Morning

Xarsis
3021 (2157)

The people of the Turian colony of Xarsis had been unprepared for a number of the Turian picket ships sent to retreat to their location bearing knews. And as little as they had been prepared for it, they had been ever more unprepared for what had come to follow. Two ships arrived over the poles of the Star and began to broadcast in their curious way, the signals going nowhere anyone could see. They were unaware that as the recon ships had pursued the Turians one had dropped off the chase every forty lightyears to act as a relay. And the proximity of the colony to the area left two of the Alien recon ships watching the system and its Turian colony.

As the picket ships discovered the pursuers hiding in the lagrange point over the northern pole of the star and were dispatched to deal with it, the amount of intelligence sent by the craft continued unabated for some time. "This is the Kronos of the Turian Heirarchy to unknown vessels. Power down your systems and prepare to be boarded." The transmission was sent to the two craft that, as they closed in, they watched them furl small sails... and disappear in a flash of cerulean light. "Sensors, I want those ships found!"

"We have nothing sir..they are gone, this isn't some kind of stealth." There was a long pause as they continued to work at the problem for five, seven, then ten minutes...

Light reached them of the two craft arriving in the L3 point for the Xarsis colony. Light ten minutes old. Without using their faster than light drives, it would take them hours to catch them once more. "Captain. They're broadcasting those weird signals again. ALARM ALARM!"

Five objects appeared in the system, this time in the L2 Lagrange point for the Xarsis colony, fed incredibly accurate data from the two recon ships the five vessels moved in on the colony as fast as their main drives could accelerate them into orbit and the Captain felt terror grip his heart. Four craft the size of small dreadnoughts were escorting one very large one.

Twenty ovoid craft detatched and began a burn to enter the atmosphere of the Turian colony.

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Zaeed Massani, the youngest ever Khan of Clan Burrock sat in the seat of his Command Mech as six entire Galaxies dropped with him. Twelve of the dropships deploying them were the modified Overlords, filled to the brim with mechs, the other eight were occupied by armoured Clusters. The five dropships remaining attached to the Potempkin were all Titans loaded with aerospace fighters ready for anything. Two were only now detaching to escort them in.

"Alright shitheads, we are dropping in twenty kilometres from largest city, surrounding it. We're not playing around here, but we are also not going to fuck this up, orders from on high is to dispatch resistance with maximum prejudice but aim to avoid collateral at all costs. IF they shoot at you, you are authorised to shoot back. Star Captains of the Armored Trinaries, I want you to set up FOBs and take up defensive position and let the artillery boys and girls set up their toys. Anyone operating a mech, our job is to move up to the outskirts of the city and suppress any heavy defences. Sorry boys, but the orders are the Elementals will be responsible for securing the city proper. Try not to kill innocents, and don't break their stuff if you don't have to. We're here to make a point, we can hit them, but we aren't trying to hurt them. Let us not give them a reason to chuck a tantrum."

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Shanxi
3021 (2157)

The Cruisers and four Dreadnoughts arrived in orbit of the world occupied by the alien race, dropships and gunships spilling from the Dreadnoughts bellies as smaller craft descended to deploy troops directly. They had worked hard to locate the human world, and they would not make an ass of a showing of their attack, the enemy fleet presence here was light, having been dispatched mostly to joint the group at Relay 314. They were ready for the attack however and it didn't take long for them to bring weapons to bear on the Turian task force. But the McKenna, Sovetskii Soyuz and pair of Quixote class vessels were divided too much to put up a concerted response and, withering under fire from the four Turian Dreadnoughts, the McKenna erupted in nuclear fire, if not before her naval PPC's rendered down one of the Dreadnoughts into crippled slag that would require aid to tow away.

"The Primarch has tasked us with securing the colony here on this world, avoid needless civilian casualties but do not hesitate to put down anyone armed and trying to kill you."

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"Strike right! Strike right!" The order came from a Sergeant as he moved towards the outer edge of a plaza. Two teams bearing missile launchers stepped out of cover and raised their weapons as the machine moved from behind one of the buildings. It moved quickly, damned quickly. It's arms comically raised overhead made for a deceptive sight as the two emerald beams swept out from it and eliminated a fireteam across the street. Two missiles shot into the air and the machine spun on its torso and the missiles detonated against a kinetic barrier. The fire teams were practiced however and already firing a second rocket. The machine decided not to stick around and hurtled off into the streets and the momentary terror of the moment disappeared. "This is Sergeant Varn. We have one of those flippy hand machines rushing south-west." Static was their only answer as a pair of armoured vehicles moved up the street, their mass accelerators searching for more of the human vehicles.

The scream overhead of powerful thrusters filled the air before something dropped down into a street several blocks over. A sound that had successfully masked the thumping of footsteps as it surged into the plaza. The first Varn knew of its presence was the crack as both tanks fired their mass accelerators at the machine. He turned in time to see the dissipating light of a kinetic barrier glowing cherry red. And he soiled his hardsuit.

It was bipedal and turned its arms on the tanks. The missile teams fired.... and the air buzzed as a point defence weapon blazed and shot down both missiles, and the teams firing them incidentally, the weapons on its arms glowed and fired some kind of particle beam weapons at the first tank causing it to erupt in flames before the hell machine turned three emerald laser beams on the second, a timely arrival of a squadron of gunships pouring missiles into the machine until its anti missile system couldn't compensate anymore and it went down in a sheet of flames.

The walkers were utterly devastating machines. It surprised the Sergeant that there seemed to be little presence of infantry, they should have been opposed by no...

Missiles reached up from the rooftops and destroyed two of the Gunships, leaving the last to retreat ignobly as it tried to avoid sharing the fate of the first two. They had been trying to secure the city with as little damage and collateral as possible, but none could have envisioned the response by the forces on the ground. Even as the enemies last ship blinked away in a flash of light the forces on the ground continued to fight.

"Move up. Move up..." He hesitated, lookng at the sprayed wall where the missile teams had fired from, they weren't the targets of the enemies anti-missile system, they'd simply been behind the path of fire. "Command, I need more anti-tank teams here." He stopped and looked at nothing in shock, "What do you mean there are none available?"

The sound of thrusters firing drew his attention back to the square as ten figures landed in the square. They weren't the same bipedal machines they had encountered. They were far far worse. Ruby laser fire picked out every one of his men in the open scrabbling to find cover as they disgorged the missiles on their shoulders at the damaged tank blowing it appart in a spray of shrapnel that sliced him open to the bone, his left arm little more than shredded meat.

A sniper fired, a kinetic barrier flared and failed, a second shot piercing the thick armour protecting the face of the armours occupant, a man or woman who had been too slow to move. And then there was screaming coming from within the building from his sniper before his body came flying out the window to crash on the ground below.

His men were behind barricades to protect themselves against the human power armoured troopers.

As he looked up, he wondered for just a moment what was going to protect him from the civilians with incendiary bottles. He didn't have to wonder long. The answer was nothing.
 
Thanks for the chapter! Did the talks break down or did both of these attacks happen at the same time as the meeting of the fleets in the last chapter?
Seems to me the Turians and the Clans had the same idea: strike behind enemy lines to intimidate them into submission while talking/fighting a delaying action to distract the enemy's "main fleet".

Trouble is, neither side should be dumb enough to think the other fleet is a majority of the enemy's fleet. Or dumb enough to have sent so much of their firepower. First Lord Kerensky...!
 
Nice, the only problem i can see is, to my knowledge, Turians don't have the concept of civilians.

They do, and don't. They're more like Sweden and Israel in a way in that there is a strong Public Service ethic, though not mandatory most Turians do engage in some sort of public service at some point or another. So the reference to Turian civilians is basically 'not active military'.
 
Chapter 11; Shock and Awe
Chapter 11;
Shock and Awe

Xarsis
3021 (2157)

The colonies GARDIAN systems came to life as the craft began to drop through the atmosphere, having to suffer through re-entry the Turian people knew that their defensive systems whatever they were could not be directed to their defensive systems, the mass effect fields would be needed to bring them down gently. Or so the school of thought had gone. People looked up fearfully as the first shots from the defensive emplacements began to fire, the laser beams surging up into the skies. Air crews raced for minimally armed craft and gunships, local defence forces made for their barracks at a full run.

Some brave souls looked up into the skies where the falling pillars of fire were. Others cheering when an explosion filled the skies as the GARDIANS managed to focus on one of the descending alien ships. The response to the successful action stunned the people of Xarsis, the heavy particle beam weapons of the largest vessel opened fire on the GARDIAN emplacements. The collosal bolts of energy surged down through the atmosphere and one by one each of the defensive towers fell to slag or erupted as capacitors blew. Distress calls surged out to the nearest Turian colonies and the panicked peoples fled for their homes as the limited defensive forces mustered. The people of Xarsis were not merely going to cower in their homes however, the Turian Heirarchy was not one to be rolled over by some unexpected threat, they had faced that before and come out on top.

As one after another of the alien craft settled into the ground surrounding the city, their drives blazing fire into the landscape and weapons emplacements annihilating anything too close to their landing sites.

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Zaeed saw the dawn light of the Turian world begin to fill his cockpit as he marched his Dire Wolf down the ramp of the Overlord towards the city. One of the aliens made a run on his star with a fighter of some kind, they couldn't have known the foolishness involved in such an endeavour as a pair of Riflemen IICs marched out to flank him and turned all four of their ER Large Pulse Lasers on the incoming craft, bracketing it with enough firepower to turn eighty percent of it into vapour.

He also noticed the pilots had actually avoided striking the cockpit of the alien craft, allowing them to eject safely. "This is the Khan, I want a point of elementals to recover the pilot of that craft and remove them to safety."

He waited for the acknowledging cry of Aff before continuing his steady march down what appeared to be a municipal highway. Columns of black smoke rose into the skies from the destroyed surface artillery installation that had annihilated the Overlord Dominus and the tanks it was carring. If he had known that the city had that kind of defence he'd have landed further.

A Star of four Mad Dogs lead by a Timber Wolf surged ahead in response to armored vehicles rolling out of the city, LRMs launching into the sky as a mad rain as lasers blazed at targets of opportunity. The Turians were resisting hard, sensors tracked sniper rifles firing, portable missile launchers and all manner of other minor ballistics. But they appeared to have no equivalent to Battlemechs.

He felt a mote of sickness in his guts. This was not a worthy target. This was just some dumpster colony with most of its people still starry eyed and fresh off the boat.

He began to slow the roll of his Dire Wolf. He was still short of the self-imposed line where the Mechs would no longer be direct participants as he watched Elementals release themselves from the Omnimechs they were riding into battle.

Zaeed never noticed the arrival of Turian reinforcements above.

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Relay 314;
3021 (2157)

The Primarch stood on the deck as he watched the alien ship pull up into the hangar bay of his Flagship. His gambit to deploy troops against a human colony should have been well underway by now, and with so many forces assigned to this he wondered if they could even defend themselves. The shuttle was strange, a spherical craft changed course headed for a hangar that he suddenly wondered if it would even be able to fit, the damned craft was nearly thirty metres tall. As it scooched into the bay with less than two metres to spare between its four main drives and the top of its forward array.

Five weapons around its axis turned in slow arcs, though the Primarch had little doubt they could move quickly. A cargo ramp opened and ten men in some kind of powered armour walked down the ramp, on the verge of calling for a general alarm for a boarding action five more people appeared. The creature looked vaguely Asari, but wrong, both in colour, the presence of a fine fuzz on the head instead of tentacles, and a significantly more masculine appearance on three of them.

The Primarch's translator came to life as it received an update from... a Turian omnitool being held by the older man in th lead. "I am Ulric Kerensky, First Lord of the Star League Reborn. Permission to board requested."

The Primarch bristled at first, until another five men in powered armour escorted a number of Turians down the ramp and promptly... uncuffed them.

"In the spirit of good will, we have some of your people that were recovered after the dishonourable attack by your patrol group on one of our Science Caste Relay Survey teams." He continued as he marched across the deck in a distinctly military cadence moving directly towards the Primarch.

He stood straight with all the military bearing he was known to possess, "I am Primarch Fedorian of the Turian Heirarchy. Your survey team was attempting to open an Mass Relay, pursuant to Council Law the commander of the fleet responded to stop the threat. Permission to board granted. We will proceed to a more... diplomatic... location."

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It had been over a week before this meeting could be arranged, the diplomats on both sides had been acting, seemingly, to their best efforts to stall efforts to negotiate. And the one called Kerensky did little to conceal an almost amused expression as he put down a datapad. "Primarch Fedorian, perhaps you would care to explain your subsequent attack on Shanxi before we continue?" The Primarch didn't blink, the attack on Shanxi had been a disastrous failure, the people of that world had been entirely invested against his people and the technological advantages this Star League had in the area of energy weapons had left them defeating the force quite soundly, taking other prisoners as far as he knew.

But... Fedorian actually chuckled. "It seems that we were both of a like mind, perhaps you could explain your own assault on Xarsis? I am told it your people remain in control of the city, but have found themselves stymied by our own people and the loss of orbital supremacy. The use of orbital bombardment against the city defences was really quite uncouth."

The First Lord frowned and Fedorian thought he saw a hint of anger before the old man also laughed. "Very well, we've slapped each other face for good measure. But the fact remains that your people attacked us entirely unprovoked, and failed to even make the most cursory attempt at first contact. Are your people so dishonourable that they would attack at first sight normally, or should I be expected to believe that this is an... anomalous... occurance."

Thos words did sting, deeply, because the fact was that the Captain had ordered his patrol in to attack an unknown species on a very short observation. "I understand First Lord, it is not typical of my people to unilaterally engage in attacks against an alien species, I assure you." The Primarch called up a file and passed it over the table, it translated itself as the human took it. "The unsanctioned activation of major Relays is something not lightly undertaken, and is heavily restricted, when the Captain observed it, he reacted without appropriate forethought."

"We are not subject to whatever laws or sanctions you operate under, and I would be well within my rights and power to consider this a threat to our species and declaration of war. Indeed, the Clans Martial do consider it an act of war and, bar some exceptions, have been pushing significantly for us to take a more stern response, the probing assault by Clan Burrock was one such initiative I authorised to show we are not going to accept such incursions without answer." The human said as he studied the Primarch. "But I would prefer not to engage in a senseless war with the first alien race we have encountered."

Fedorian frowned. "You have a poor way of showing it."

The First Lord raised a single eyebrow. "We have each struck at one another blindly. And hurt one another, do you wish to continue with the barbs, or will force be the only tool of negotiation you are willing to grasp? Because so far I have held back the Clans Martial from a full scale mobilisation against your people."

Fedorian nodded with a smile, "And I have also only reacted with a somewhat moderate reaction."

The First Lord frowned, and this time Fedorian thought he could see something of anger in the mans expression. "Very well, I see that some lessons can only be learned kinetically. I will be returning to my ship now."

"And if I said you were not?" Fedorian said as an aide came running in.

"Then the fifty megaton nuclear device on my K-1C Dropshuttle will detonate in your small craft bay and take both of us out." Suddenly the First Lord stood, rage on his face, "You would betray these talks by calling more forces!?" He snarled.

Fedorian frowned and cursed as the aide whispered in his ear. "My apologies first Lord... the Asari have arrived to... mediate. Somebody made the mistake of mentioning this incident to the Council and they have decided that our reactions have been... too hasty."

The anger was still visibly there. "Meaning."

"Unless I miss my guess, some data leak means the Asari are coming to yell at me, and negotiate peace." Fedorian sighed. This was going to be awkward.
 
Sooo Turians are probably gonna be tarred as utterly dishonorable as an entire race for this shit, no one's gonna care if it's just the chucklefuck at the top, the clans will just make a generalization on them and hold it.
 
Poor Fedorian. I think there is going to be a lot more than just yelling going on.
 
Chapter 12; Diplomacy
Chapter 12;
Diplomacy

Relay 314
3021 (2157)


The arrival of the alien dreadnought put Kerensky into an annoyed state of mind, it was the first vessel the aliens had demonstrated larger than his own, and it was considerably larger at nearly four kilometres in length. It was even a rather alien design, the significant void in its middle made little to no sense. The Destiny Ascension grew large in his screens as the Dropshuttle approached it. The design was, in effect, significantly more alien than the Turians vessels. Their shuttle was making the trip admittedly more quickly, not simply because of its size, but because it didn't have to wait nearly three hours while a large enough cargo hold was cleared to allow room for the Dropshuttle to land within, the hangars on the Destiny Ascension were not designed to deploy gunships and troops, and were thus, too physically small to fit the dropshuttle, and the docking ports on the shuttle and Asari vessel were clearly never going to mate up properly.

After ten minutes they finally settled into the cargo bay which was sealed and presurrised, allowing his honour guard to step out and verify the safety of the chamber. When he emerged, he struggled to maintain composure. The honour guard awaiting him from these Asari were slender women, all of them. If women had blue skin and looked like someone had surgically replaced their hair with octopus tentacles...

"I am Ulric Kerensky, First Lord of the Star League Reborn. Permission to board requested." He called out with all the authority he could muster. The women looked mildly confused for a moment, all but the leader of them who stepped forwards.

"I am Councillor Messana Tevos of the Citadel Council, Permission to board granted First Lord Kerensky." She bowed slightly, in an effort to be diplomatic he did the same and headed down the ramp. The Elementals formed in around him and his four aides as they moved towards the woman. The other women seemed to grow nervous.

"Second Point to remain with the ship." Five of the troops stepped back to take up guard positions. As Ulric continued to walk across the deck the nervousness had lessened, but not entirely. These young women in their fancy skintight black-brown armour were agitated by the Elementals. So be it. "It is an honour to meet you Councillor Tevos, more so not to be shot at for our first meeting."

Her face darkened for a moment, "Yes, our Turian colleagues were quite hasty." She said noncommittally. "If I may ask, were your people attempting to open that relay? The evidence we have seems scant since the vessels which observed it were either destroyed or crippled."

They walked along extremely well lit corridors that lead deeper into the ship. He wondered if it was an intentionally circuituitous route in order for them to talk more freely. "In truth Councillor, no. The survey team had only been on site for a week and were studying the Relay trying to gain access to enough information to see where it lead, and whether it would be worth exploring." Her eyes widened in surprise. "We do not hastily activate these devices Councillor, we are in fact a significantly cautious people regarding the relays. Someone destroyed the Protheans, of this we are certain. Someone for whom we have found no evidence of their own destruction or even presence. Those killers are somewhere. We don't intend to run blindly into them."

Tevos sighed out loud. "That makes things significantly more awkward. The Council Laws against the incautious opening of a Mass Relay, treaties you have not agreed to to begin with, would not even apply in this case, meaning that the Turian attack was not just disastrous, but actively a criminal attack. That is going to make this far uglier."

"Is that so Councillor?" Ulric asked plainly.

She nodded. Ulric found it curious as to how utterly humanoid they were, even sharing body language. "The Turian people are a very prideful martial society that strongly strongly believes in a sense of honour. We arrived thanks to... well advice... from another that the Turians were on the eve of total war with another alien race, and we find that so far you have only responded to what it now turns out was an illegal attack, but not only illegal, dishonourable as well."

Ulric paused in the hall and the Councillor turned to face him. "What does this all mean, I take it that your societies are significantly connected in some way."

"Reparations at the very least for your Star League, though I warn you, we will probably try and convince you to become associates of the Citadel Council and sign the treaty of Farixen." She said with a wry smile, "That limits the number of Dreadnoughts that may be constructed for the purposes of security and avoiding an arms race." She looked out of a window that looked out onto the Star League fleet.

Ulric's next words surprised her. "The Dreadnought class was retired centuries ago. We have no dreadnoughts in service."

She waved her hand at the window. "You have well over a hundred dreadnoughts here..."

Ulric looked confused and both of them realised that there was some cultural message being lost in translation here. "We have Battleships and Heavy Cruisers, with some lighter combatants. What exactly is a Dreadnought by your definition."

Councillor Tevos paused, collected her thoughts, and considered the textbook definition. "A Dreadnought is a vessel in excess of eight hundred metres, whose main gun is a mass accelerator of commensurate length."

Ulric considered the words. "So, unless there is a more formal definition, we have no vessels you would classify as a Dreadnought." She blinked in surprise, "None of our vessels are possessed of a spinal weapon, the Compact Kearny-Fuchida Drive takes up the spine of our vessels."

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Tevos considered the implication of the words spoken by the being called Ulric, they had no vessels mounting a spinal weapon, that should give them the advantage in combat, were it not for the fact that according to the information made available to her, these people, humans, had extremely advanced energy weapons, far and above anything utilised by the council races. From advanced particle weapons to extremely long ranged laser weaponry. Indeed, the Turian ship to escape the attack on the survey group had largely been destroyed by itself when its main gun fired at the same time the barrel had been warped by laser fire.

The fact that they outnumbered the Citadel for the number of such sized vessels was troubling. But not insurmountable. "I see, well, I would rather not hold up talks further." She smiled and resumed walking for the meeting, the disturbing stamping of the power armoured soldiers behind her in stark contrast to her Thessian Commandos responsible for her security.

They entered the large council chamber where she indicated the First Lord should stand and headed up onto the elevated gallery where the Council would normally be seated, Councillor Sparatus was however not invited to participate on the Council Level, having to stand down with Primarch Fedorian to represent his people as defendant. The Salarian Councillor meanwhile stood in his normal place.

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Sparatus saw the human First Lord come in with his troops, the stories he'd heard from Xarsis about the potency of that armour made him feel unsafe for the first time in a very long time. He was also down at what was little more than a defendants table. And to make it worse...

He'd studied all the evidence acquired so far. And the bottom line was that his people had done little more than embarass themselves with an ill advised, illegal, attack, been trounced, and then as things began escalating, they were victim of an attack while trying to attack in turn. The fact was, he knew full well that this was not going to end in the favour of the Turian people.

"We are meeting here and now, in an attempt to introduce ourselves to humanity and the Star League, and in doing so prevent a disastrous escalation of the conflict between them and the Turian Heirarchy. We have studied the evidence at length, and spoken to those parties involved, including testimony from released prisoners taken by the Star League. The Turian Heirarchy is guilty of provoking an interstellar war with no legal grounds at all." The fact that these words were uttered by the Salarian Councillor made them sting more.

Sparatus however, was required to play his part and defend his people. "Fellow Councillors, I would like it to be entered into the record that Captain Vivek was witness to an unknown species attempting to carelessly open a Mass Relay without proper procedure and in contravention to Citadel law."

As he stepped back he saw the human step forwards. "Councillors." Ulric Kerensky said in a plain tone. "We have signed no treaties, and have not joined your association and are not bound by the terms of your laws, however we were also not carelessly attempting to open a Mass Relay, as I have relayed to Councillor Tevos, the survey team had been working for quite some time to safely determine the expected end point, or end points, of that Relay. The question of actually opening it had not even been opened at the time the survey fleet was attacked, unprovoked, with no attempt at communication. If this is the honour I am told Turians have, then I should suggest they not be taken at their word."

Sparatus bristled with anger and was about to speak when the Tevos looked directly at him, shutting him down. "Thank you First Lord for that clarification, though I must ask you refrain from attacks on the character of an entire species due to the actions of a single patrol."

"You may ask that." Came the noncommital answer from the First Lord. The words shook the confidence of all present, they were used to being seen as wise leaders. That short retort took some of the wind from their sails. It was enough that Sparatus actually felt a spark of admiration for the man. He was not intimidated in the least.

"Very well. Do you have proof of your claim that they were simply surveying the Relay?" The Salarian asked, one of the aides to the man stepped up and presented a dataslate.

He took it and read over its summary. "I have here records for eighteen months of survey data, though some of it is redacted to preserve state secrets over our methods of accessing the Relay's data systems. We might release that redaction if it comes to show that our access methods are sufficiently similar or the same, as we suspect they probably are."

A minute of work later and the data files were transferred to the Councillors, and to Sparatus, he studied them as he stood next to the Primarch who was also studying them. He whispered quietly. "We are so fucked."
 
The aftermath will be a spectacular shitshow of epic proportions, given Star League using different FTL and ship design altogether, and their tech was solely around mostly NOT breaking the physic of the Universe, except their K-F Drive until their recent application of Hybridization with Mass Effect tech.
 
The Clans are winning at diplomacy. The turians may have dug themselves into a hole through the application of Thermonuclear hand grenades to a sewer, but still. The Clans are winning at diplomacy. Is this the Mirror-Verse clans? Will we have to deal with a swarm of reapers attempting mandatory pampering at stellar habitats outside the galaxy?
 
The Clans are winning at diplomacy. The turians may have dug themselves into a hole through the application of Thermonuclear hand grenades to a sewer, but still. The Clans are winning at diplomacy. Is this the Mirror-Verse clans? Will we have to deal with a swarm of reapers attempting mandatory pampering at stellar habitats outside the galaxy?

Being fair, they're winning at Diplomacy for the same reason the Systems Alliance did, not because of being particularly skilled at it, but because the Turians fucked up :p
 
The Clans are winning at diplomacy. The turians may have dug themselves into a hole through the application of Thermonuclear hand grenades to a sewer, but still. The Clans are winning at diplomacy. Is this the Mirror-Verse clans? Will we have to deal with a swarm of reapers attempting mandatory pampering at stellar habitats outside the galaxy?
Being fair, they're winning at Diplomacy for the same reason the Systems Alliance did, not because of being particularly skilled at it, but because the Turians fucked up :p
They're just winning harder because of having 2 tech bases instead of 1.

Nah the Clans are winning in diplomacy because they have Giant Robits and since the asari (the chief and only real diplomats that the Cargo Cult Citadel Council have) are chicks they Dig Giant Robots thus have -20 to their Diplomacy Rating.
 
Chapter 13; Not So Simple
Chapter 13;
Not So Simple

Relay 314
3021 (2157)

The sharp pain in her head indicated the difficulties that were involved in the processes she was now engaged in as she began to clean herself in the mirror of her quarters on the Destiny Ascension. Messana sighed as she looked into her reflection. She had discovered already that the humans were rather intractible. The Turians had screwed up in an epic fashion, had their been any degree of doubt involved the Turians might have been penalised, but otherwise gotten a slap on the wrist.

Instead, they had attacked an extremely long documented study of the Mass Relay. Examining what she could of the records that had not been redacted, the Star League's process for surveying the Relays might actually be stronger than those employed by the Citadel Council, and she was not entirely sure why except that these humans seemed to be convinced that the Protheans had not simply disappeared, but been destroyed by some external power.

Which meant that the humans were not willing to simply settle for a degree of reparations and a slap on the wrist before being welcomed into the broader community. Which was the other side of the coin. They were not willing or content to really become part of the wider galactic community. They had no interest in being bound by something as minor as associate powers, and they were completely unwilling to bind their economies with the Council at all.

It was almost quite bizarre. They had interest in technology, but were cautious about sharing any of their own. Which meant her own job was significantly harder to engage in. Because her primary role was one that she could not effectively pursue... the humans wants were too high.

If they were to become involved with the Council, they would require an equal part in the partnership of the Council, to be an associate, bound by the rules, but unable to have a say in the final face of those rules, was a deal-breaker for them. Which was why she had the hated document in her hand right now. A proposal for provisional Council Membership. It would not put them on the council itself, not for a minimum of fifty years.

But they would stand a tier above mere associate races. That alone would create friction with the Elcor, Hanar, Batarians and Volus. Perhaps the humans would deserve the friction the preferential treatment would cause them? And the only reason they were even considering these demands?

Because as the 'enforcement' arm of the Citadel Council, through the magic of transformative properties... the Council as a whole, represented by Asari, Turian and Salarian, were deemed to be at fault for the attack. Had the laws around it been more... defined... the error could not have occured.

Even then Messana thought she might have refused their demands were it not for one very important factor. They had a completely different technical base, and a cordial relationship over time might release their anchors grip on it. And maybe getting them to sign the Citadel Conventions might restrict their nuclear weapons...

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Primarch Fedorian wondered if there was a donut he might have been able to sit on, because he felt as sorely used as a prostitute for a Krogan mercenary group that paid for a group discount. Metaphor it might have been, but he had been quite thoroughly reamed over the so-called human issue, and he hadn't even been involved in the decision making loop.

And while the Star League's requirements were quite frankly draconian. The strangest part of it all was a footnote that nobody else seemed to have really picked up on.

Isorla; Forty of the former captives taken from the attack force are to be transferred over to the Star League as Isorla. It was not explained well, but as he understood it from the vague discussion in private with the First Lord on the subject. Each of the Clans Martial wanted the honour of a pair of Turian warriors to train and include in the Clans Martial. It just did not make sense, a sort of cultural exchange... but the most important was that Captain Vivek be one of them.

What the hell was he supposed to make of that? Was it a cultural exchange? Something else? He didn't understand, and that was proving to be almost as big of a problem as Xarsis was. They needed to allow the Star League vessels to return and recover their troops. He didn't mind that too much. It was just... a severe blow to his pride, they had been attacked and invaded, had enemy troops set down and successfully take a city, if not without losses, and now he would be forced to let them leave, unharmed.

A ring at the door and moments later Sparatus entered, followed by Tevos and the Salarian Councillor whose name he couldn't recall. That was not good. It meant that they had come to some sort of decision, one that would not sit well with him.

"Am I going to need a soft chair? Lubricant?" The sharp look from Tevos made him regret his sharp words. But the expression on his face made it clear that he was unlikely to approve either.

The room was quiet for a minute, perhaps too quiet. The Salarian spoke. "It is the decision of the Citadel Council to accept the negotiated terms with the Star League. The finer details of the agreement such as interstellar exchange rates, trade rights and restrictions and various legal issues will be hammered out over an introductory period. The Human Embassy on the Citadel will be opened within the next month." They were working up to something...

"Spirits dammit, don't keep me in suspense, you know I'm not going to like something, something that wasn't on these." He held up a datapad with the stuff he had been party too so far.

"It was agreed by the Citadel Council, that due to the grievous nature of the incident that it would be appropriate for the Primarch of Palaven himself," They were trying to pretend they didn't mean him for a moment, "Should make a public apology in front of the Citadel Assembly, and broadcast across the extranet."

Sparatus wouldn't even look at him. And Tevos looked on at him defiantly, as if not daring to do so would effect her resolve. He knew finally what it felt like to be thrown under a group of brawling Krogan. "This is not a request, this is career suicide. There might even be those who insist on actual suicide."

Sparatus REALLY wasn't looking at him. And he knew why when the Salarian spoke up. "Primarch, it has been decided that Captain Vivek, and the other surviving Captains, will all be given over as Isorla and... they will be pressed to blame for the issue, their families will be asked to retire from public service and depart the Heirarchy. Those instructors responsible for the training of those officers will also be asked to step down and retire from service. You will announce institutional reforms to avoid any future incidents."

Fedorian stood. "You are asking me to betray these men and women."

"No Primarch Fedorian. We are not asking." Sparatus snapped.
 
"No Primarch Fedorian. We are not asking." Sparatus snapped.


Which is interesting.

I don't feel like the games ever get very deep into it be the relationship between Citadel Councillors and the native Governments of the Council Races/power dynamics are interesting in a way I don't feel is fully replicated on Earth. I wouldn't consider it a full federal system, not when the economies and militaries have as much independence as they do, but the fact the council can dictate terms to a chief executive is interesting. Though I suppose the Primarch could refuse if he wanted to risk the Turian position.
 
Which is interesting.

I don't feel like the games ever get very deep into it be the relationship between Citadel Councillors and the native Governments of the Council Races/power dynamics are interesting in a way I don't feel is fully replicated on Earth. I wouldn't consider it a full federal system, not when the economies and militaries have as much independence as they do, but the fact the council can dictate terms to a chief executive is interesting. Though I suppose the Primarch could refuse if he wanted to risk the Turian position.

See I get the reverse impression the Council is definitely to a degree a Federal system, while the Turians are responsible for the lions share of defence, the others also have to put into it, and the Volus definitely 'federalised' the economies, it was supposedly their big contribution and why Ambassador Din was always complaining about not actually having a council seat, and that humans with their stronger military did get one first.

Though it might also be more of a NATO/European Union setup. (Which would explain the political power Salarians and Asari had over the militarily more powerful Turians)
 
Just a thought I had with the Reapers and the Ezo tech base. An interesting thought and one I think makes sense for an AI.

Wouldn't the tech examples likely be damaged in the same way across the planted deposit sites? After all most technology has issues making it past the 1k year old mark nevermind the 50k years old most of the base is registering as?
 
Funny, most OTL tech (and i bet most Citadel tech) won't get pass the 200+ years mark. That's where Star League tech came in with the absurdity of 500+ years, considering the Mackie still see use even in the iKhan era. And Castle Brian that famous for being lasting way past the government that built it, the most famous one was the Helm Caches. And consider how Germanium hungry BT tech are, and things was designed to take hit from peer class and hit back ( the exception is the Baron Destroyer the Hegemony built), meaning they can last very long.

But, let's not just focus on Battlemech, yeah? We also have Star League Vehicles to talk about. When will we see Chevalier light tank and Alacorn IV pounding Pirate position while Packrat drop troop on colonies and planets?
 
Yeesh. Someone should ask the council and humanity if they want a fascist Turian reprisal uprising? Because this is how you get a fascist Turian reprisal uprising.
 
Just a thought I had with the Reapers and the Ezo tech base. An interesting thought and one I think makes sense for an AI.

Wouldn't the tech examples likely be damaged in the same way across the planted deposit sites? After all most technology has issues making it past the 1k year old mark nevermind the 50k years old most of the base is registering as?
The reapers obviously weren't expecting a peer power with and advanced enough tech base to come and say hi.

This is a society that lives and breaths war. Is expecting war. And has gotten confirmation of that war. And is on a permanent hair trigger away from a war footing.

The reapers are expecting soft unsuspecting children who've known the easy life. Sheep ready for harvest.

They're getting Inigo Montoya. And he's going to be unimpressed with your fencing.
 
Funny, most OTL tech (and i bet most Citadel tech) won't get pass the 200+ years mark. That's where Star League tech came in with the absurdity of 500+ years, considering the Mackie still see use even in the iKhan era. And Castle Brian that famous for being lasting way past the government that built it, the most famous one was the Helm Caches. And consider how Germanium hungry BT tech are, and things was designed to take hit from peer class and hit back ( the exception is the Baron Destroyer the Hegemony built), meaning they can last very long.

But, let's not just focus on Battlemech, yeah? We also have Star League Vehicles to talk about. When will we see Chevalier light tank and Alacorn IV pounding Pirate position while Packrat drop troop on colonies and planets?

We're gonna see clan ground forces that aren't just Battlemechs when the Batarians fuck up.


On that note…

I'm also accepting candidates for a replacement for the Mako for Shepards squad ;)
 
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