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The Arachne System (SPIDERLIV 3)

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[X] Leave them and their guns webbed up for the cops.

I'm not opposed to the legal advice route, but I'm also not super into it, regardless of how pop-culture-literate these guys seem to be.

Also, I love the suit, but 100% agree with Athena...and I suspect we're only a few rounds/one more story chapter away from Liv figuring out how to have the arms apply the suit to her, pre-IW Iron Man style.
 
[X] Leave them and their guns webbed up for the cops.

It is not a clearly superior choice... but it's also not a clearly wrong one, either. Moral grey areas can be annoying.
 
open_sketch said:
This isn't because of her transness, its because he's noted to be super protective and they were weird about Ben.
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I have no idea about the process of "transness" but given the shaped armor will Olivia ever get <that> so she can stop implying because she has it?
I try not to be a perv! But it is mentioned the chapter and I do not understand the medical process. I only ask about the medical process.
 
Raiseth said:
The only thing we know about him is that he keeps pushing his daughter to get a Business degree, which is honestly not that bad of an advice, and that May thought that telling her parents about her transgender girlfriend will be awful for everyone involved. I mean, she could be wrong, but, well.
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I think we also know that he recognised Liv from one time time they met pre transition which is uncomfortable for Liv. Or something like that.
 
Mmh, a moral conundrum.

[X] Take their guns and let them escape out the back.

Fuck it. We can just destroy the guns, and let them fend for themselves. Besides, the real issue here is that the actively hostile police may use the people we captured for them against us-- meaning that we may be compromised that way. Better that we simply stop the crime itself rather than go through the difficulty of dealing with an actively hostile NYPD.
 
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    • Portec said:
    I have no idea about the process of "transness" but given the shaped armor will Olivia ever get <that> so she can stop implying because she has it?
    I try not to be a perv! But it is mentioned the chapter and I do not understand the medical process. I only ask about the medical process.
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    I'm unsure what you are implying here, so here's a crash course on her transition. Education!

    So... Liv takes hormonal replacement therapy (HRT), medication which suppresses testosterone and introduces additional estrogen into her system. She started just after her 16th birthday, September 2028, so it's been 20 months or so. Basically, midway through a male puberty, Liv put that shit on hold and started a female puberty instead. At this point, a lot of the expected results of that have occurred: she has breasts, what little body fat she has is mostly in her hips and thighs (she's very spindly), her skin is soft, and she's lost some muscle mass (though the biomechanical spider venom flowing through her veins have turned what remains into well-defined steel cord.)

    However, she still went through the initial stages of male puberty, so that's got lingering effects. She's taller than your average girl (she's 5'11"), she's got somewhat wide shoulders, an adam's apple (she wears chokers to hide it) and a slight brow ridge. She's a bit more angular than you'd expect in her jaw and chin. She used to grow facial hair, but she had it shot off her face with lasers! and its eliminated most of it.

    To others, she reads as female pretty handily: you pretty much have to know what to look for to clock her. She's a bit wide-shouldered and narrow-hipped, though the latter is starting to (slowly and painfully) change. At this point, she's probably got a bit of hip growth left, but anything else she wants changed will have to be done surgically. She will need to continue taking HRT for the rest of her life.

    It should be noted, however, that Liv is not a reliable narrator regarding her own body. Consider this an advanced content warning: she's going to think and say some shit about herself in this story that isn't kind. Girl has some stuff to work though.
     
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    • You know, I can't wait to see if Doctor Doom shows up eventually. Should make an interesting contrast with Liv, both in personality and ideology. On the surface, both Doom and Liv share the same goal: that of solving the world's issues and solving inequalities and iniquities large and small, but Doom very explicitly does not trust anyone but themself to achieve it.

    They would rather command humanity as its enlightened master with their army of Doombots, whereas Liv would help bring about world change by inspiring, agitating, and bringing people together so they can make the world they want together. Doom does not trust in the goodness of humanity, whereas Liv does.

    Also, Doom-level nonsense would be hilariously eye-popping in contrast to everything the Arachne System has dealt with until now (asides maybe the Asgardians).

    Edit: Also Doom's origin story as a Romani boy facing persecution should make for an interesting interpretation in regard to their goals, motives and worldview, maybe.
     
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    Baron Ouroboros said:
    They would rather command humanity as its enlightened master with his army of Doombots, whereas Liv would help bring about world change by inspiring, agitating, and bringing people together so they can make the world they want together. Doom does not trust in the goodness of humanity, whereas Liv does.
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    It would definitely be neat to see how this version of Doom interacts with someone who's just as...idealistic? as they are. Without the personal baggage between them and Reed Richards, but with a fundamentally incompatible philosophy of how things Should Be Done to improve the world, there could be a lot to dig into there. Alternately, Doom might be reversed here the way a lot of characters are, someone with good PR who turns out to be awful when the chips are down. That would certainly fit with their general beliefs of "the world needs a strong guiding hand, and only I can provide it". They could easily be a divisive dictator with strong support from a limited part of their citizenry; there are many real life examples of that sort of leader throughout history. As for how that version of them would fit the quest, Liv has a wonderful habit of punching fascists in the face, and Doom might be in need of a good punch.
     
    adaer said:
    It would definitely be neat to see how this version of Doom interacts with someone who's just as...idealistic? as they are. Without the personal baggage between them and Reed Richards, but with a fundamentally incompatible philosophy of how things Should Be Done to improve the world, there could be a lot to dig into there. Alternately, Doom might be reversed here the way a lot of characters are, someone with good PR who turns out to be awful when the chips are down. That would certainly fit with their general beliefs of "the world needs a strong guiding hand, and only I can provide it". They could easily be a divisive dictator with strong support from a limited part of their citizenry; there are many real life examples of that sort of leader throughout history. As for how that version of them would fit the quest, Liv has a wonderful habit of punching fascists in the face, and Doom might be in need of a good punch.
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    I'm thinking Doom would be auth-left, like some otherwordly super-genius permutation of the Bolsheviks or Marxist-Leninist-Maoists, not right wing. Still not good, but with fundamentally different goals.

    So yeah, Liv and Athena might not hate Doom the same way as they would, say, Sean Hannity, but they would fight against them in regards to praxis (assuming Doom is like their usual self and not a totally different character).
     
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    I'm thinking Doom would be auth-left, like some otherwordly super-genius permutation of the Bolsheviks or Marxist-Leninist-Maoists, not right wing. Still not good, but with fundamentally different goals.

    So yeah, Liv and Athena might not hate Doom the same way as they would, say, Sean Hannity, but they would fight against them in regards to praxis (assuming Doom is like their usual self and not a totally different character).
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    That would definitely be an interesting contrast to have. Continuing on with the idea of every villain/rival having a different political alignment, would Malakith be the ultimate anarcho-primitivist? The underlying "I don't care about the lives of 99% of people, especially if they aren't like me" of that philosophy would come through a lot more clearly with the MCU version of him wanting to change the way reality itself works to destroy all the things built by modern society people who aren't made of dark matter.
     
    adaer said:
    That would definitely be an interesting contrast to have. Continuing on with the idea of every villain/rival having a different political alignment, would Malakith be the ultimate anarcho-primitivist? The underlying "I don't care about the lives of 99% of people, especially if they aren't like me" of that philosophy would come through a lot more clearly with the MCU version of him wanting to change the way reality itself works to destroy all the things built by modern society people who aren't made of dark matter.
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    Pretty sure Malekith would be more closely aligned to fascism.
     
    I honestly hadn't though about Doctor Doom on account of me thinking the Fantastic Four are really silly and struggling to figure out what to do with them, but holy shit I love the idea of authleft Doom. I don't want to have fake countries in Liv's Marvelverse and I need to give him a real last name, but he would absolutely fit in the blasted political hellscape of Liv's 2030.

    (My first ever superhero comic was a Fantasy Four issue. I understood nothing that happened in it, the art was weird and bad, and there was no flow between panels at all. I found it profoundly disappointing and I've ever bought a floppy comic since.)
     
    open_sketch said:
    I honestly hadn't though about Doctor Doom on account of me thinking the Fantastic Four are really silly and struggling to figure out what to do with them, but holy shit I love the idea of authleft Doom. I don't want to have fake countries in Liv's Marvelverse and I need to give him a real last name, but he would absolutely fit in the blasted political hellscape of Liv's 2030.
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    Easy! Vojtik "Victor" Dunamárno.

    ...I may have put thought into this myself.
     
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    How come some people are using they/them pronouns for Doom?

    If nonbinary Doom is possible, that'd be pretty neat.
     
    open_sketch said:
    I don't want to have fake countries in Liv's Marvelverse and I need to give him a real last name, but he would absolutely fit in the blasted political hellscape of Liv's 2030.
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    Perhaps have him as a prominent leader in Croatia? It's a relatively small nation, but one that, with someone even remotely capable of living up to Doom's reputation/hype, could probably be simultaneously big and successful enough that nobody wants to risk kicking off problems by invading to get rid of Doom (perhaps he's got decent to good relations with US/Russia/China that make it awkward for Croatia's neighbors?), while still also being small enough that the US didn't think it worth it to try and pull a Korean War 2, European Boogaloo over Doom being an auth-left dictator, possibly helped by Doom steadfastly staying well clear of anything closely resembling a nuclear weapons program.
     
    So I have a deep, serious question for the QM -- is the game that May plays based on anything? Because I have been unable to get the idea out of my head of how much fun I'd have with that. Is there an inspiration, or a game you see as evolving to this point?
     
    Marlowe310811 said:
    So I have a deep, serious question for the QM -- is the game that May plays based on anything? Because I have been unable to get the idea out of my head of how much fun I'd have with that. Is there an inspiration, or a game you see as evolving to this point?
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    It's based on Spore, and specifically how excited 15 year old me was about it when I went through the at-the-time difficult process to watch the first demo video.
     
    Also, I assume it's secretly setting up for when May becomes a supervillain and attempt to purge the world of all but the cutest life. We will have to fight her in a battle that is both gay and anime as fuck. Ganime.
     
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    Would someone mind linking the post with May's game?
     
    clockworkchaos said:
    Also, I assume it's secretly setting up for when May becomes a supervillain and attempt to purge the world of all but the cutest life. We will have to fight her in a battle that is both gay and anime as fuck. Ganime.
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    The secret reason that May and Liv are perfect for each other is that they are both natural supervillains.
     
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