[X] Give them legal advice, take their guns, and leave them webbed up for the cops.

Legal advice is almost certainly going to be "the only word you know is 'lawyer'."
 
What I love about this update is that it's kind of deprogramming me of biases and mental impulses I wasn't completely aware of that comic book and movie tropes had embedded in my brain. Car alarm? That's a beating No, it's not a carjacking, just some unlucky dude that got locked out. Woman afraid of her life running away from a man? Probably a rapist, he forfeited his bone privileges Hold up, love makes people do stupid shit, let's not escalate and risk inflicting life-altering injuries, when we can just talk to the guy.

I'm leaning towards taking the guns and leaving them for the cops, but @open_sketch are we carrying any cameras we can leave behind? The pharmacy cameras are probably rolling, but if the cops do anything I want it recorded in blu-ray quality (or the 2030 equivalent) and in 15 different angles.
 
The million dollar question is if any of these gentlemen are black. If they're white the cops probably won't shoot them for "resisting arrest" or something... Probably. Of course there's still the broader issue of the US criminal justice system being a literal and metaphorical crime against humanity but....

[X] Give them legal advice, take their guns, and leave them webbed up for the cops.
 
What I love about this update is that it's kind of deprogramming me of biases and mental impulses I wasn't completely aware of that comic book and movie tropes had embedded in my brain. Car alarm? That's a beating No, it's not a carjacking, just some unlucky dude that got locked out. Woman afraid of her life running away from a man? Probably a rapist, he forfeited his bone privileges Hold up, love makes people do stupid shit, let's not escalate and risk inflicting life-altering injuries, when we can just talk to the guy.

I'm leaning towards taking the guns and leaving them for the cops, but @open_sketch are we carrying any cameras we can leave behind? The pharmacy cameras are probably rolling, but if the cops do anything I want it recorded in blu-ray quality (or the 2030 equivalent) and in 15 different angles.
Athena can see the security cams (they are being backed up on the cloud, so they're free for the taking for the spider gang).
 
[X] Leave them and their guns webbed up for the cops.
[X] Give them legal advice, take their guns, and leave them webbed up for the cops.
 
I'm hesitant about taking the guns. They were recorded on security cameras, and it would be kind of suspicious if they ended up in Arachne's hands, or if it looks like Arachne was involved in deleting the security camera footage. If they're getting busted for armed robbery, I don't want to put more heat on Liv.

[X] Give them legal advice, leave them and their guns webbed up for the cops.
 
[X] Give them legal advice, leave them and their guns webbed up for the cops.

Yeah, same thing. They were seen with guns, it doesn't matter that the guns aren't physically present. Disappearing the guns and/or editing the security footage is even more suspicious, and I'm unclear if there were other civilians present? If so, that's a definite no.

Unrortunaty, this is a scenario where it's best to rely on lawyers.
 
[X] Take their guns and let them escape out the back.

I doubt these guys are going to have a lawyer on-call, which means their best-case scenario is a burnt-out public defender who'll let the police run all over them. They'd be lucky to get a plea deal, and even then it'd be slanted in favor of the police.
 
@open_sketch I'm unclear, were there hostages in the robbery? I don't think any were explicitly mentioned but it kind of seemed like the latter two were holding up the front while the first was taking the meds?
 
Alright then! Armed robbery, hostages, we can't let them go. Like, sure, they don't deserve to go to jail for however long they get screwed, but these guys are clearly idiots who haven't learned their lesson.

They'll do something equally stupid, and it may well be an Uncle Ben moment where people die. They need to see some actual consequences for this before they get someone killed. Legal advice, even if it's "lawyer is the only word you know," is the best I got for them.

Taking the guns and webbing them is better then just letting them go, but I don't know that it's necessary, and I worry that it's harmful somehow.
 
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Oh. They held people hostage at gunpoint. I'd missed that.

[X] Give them legal advice, leave them and their guns webbed up for the cops.
 
Just to be clear : these assholes threatened to murder innocents in the hope of some easy money.
I get it, police are bad, but this is completely fucked. If we let them go on to threaten and terrify more innocent shop workers, how are we going to feel when they finally shoot murder one of them?

[X] Leave them and their guns webbed up for the cops.
Giving them legal advice feels dumb (the whole point of this mess is getting out fast, before the cops come it), but it's the only such vote that has a hope of winning...
[X] Give them legal advice, leave them and their guns webbed up for the cops.
 
[] Take their guns and let them escape out the back.

we are spider-liv

not spider-cop
The flip side is, they're probably gonna try this again as soon as they can get ahold of guns again, though they may try it fifty miles from here in New Jersey or something.

I'm not going 'blah blah criminal type,' but they have to be thinking 'OK, we had a good business model going until that Arachne chick showed up and went all More Merciful Bruce Willis on our dumbass John Travolta knock-off, so try it somewhere with less Arachnes and maybe we're good?'

Also, as @defenestrator and others pointed out, this whole thing is being recorded. Aaand there are hostages present. If we're letting the thieves go, that's likely to go viral even if we control the camera feeds, which now that I think about it we do.

Conversely, while the police are a violent and nasty brute squad, if they come upon the thieves already restrained and disarmed, incapable of putting up a fight, they are probably not going to do anything that permanent to the thieves besides "arrest them," which they were going to do anyway, especially if they're smart enough to follow commonsense advice. The police do all kinds of heinous shit to thousands of people every year, but they arrest millions of people every year, so while the odds are a hell of a lot worse than they ought to be, this isn't a deterministic case of "if we abandon them tied up they'll totally get shot in the head" or something.

Plus, if they're taking civilian hostages, they're already about as morally bad as, like, Worst Police. This is some charcoal grey on charcoal grey morality we've got here.

[X] Leave them and their guns webbed up for the cops.

What I love about this update is that it's kind of deprogramming me of biases and mental impulses I wasn't completely aware of that comic book and movie tropes had embedded in my brain. Car alarm? That's a beating No, it's not a carjacking, just some unlucky dude that got locked out.
Fair point- though I think by now we ALL know that car alarms are like 100 times more likely to go off over some stupid shit than because of a robbery in progress. :p

Woman afraid of her life running away from a man? Probably a rapist, he forfeited his bone privileges Hold up, love makes people do stupid shit, let's not escalate and risk inflicting life-altering injuries, when we can just talk to the guy.
To be fair, that's a lot easier to say when you're in a position of unquestioned physical superiority... which privilege Arachne has compared to nearly any man who walks the Earth. This 'Tessa' likely does not.
 
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