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The Arachne System (SPIDERLIV 3)

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[X] The plan was stealth. You'd make your entrance carefully and quietly, take what you could, and get out quietly. It'd be difficult to get everything. Nobody would know it was Arachne.

Theoretically, at least, we're talking about someone who not only can know when a camera will look a particular direction with total certainty, but can also tell it *not* to. Any human guard with a Mk.I Eyeball will still require stealth to avoid, sure, but Liv can plausibly just be like "do not see me" to the electronic security system and have it work perfectly. I absolutely have to see this in action.
 
[X] The plan was stealth. You'd make your entrance carefully and quietly, take what you could, and get out quietly. It'd be difficult to get everything. Nobody would know it was Arachne.
 
[X] The plan was speed. You'd burst in, wrecking security, webbing up guards, and taking everything not nailed down. Potentially more dangerous. Everyone would know it was Arachne.

Let's be real, stealth is the smarter option. It plays to our strengths, it is much safer, and we can always break stealth if we have to while we can't un-break it.

However, I've had a spectacularly bad day and I want to see bad guys be afraid. Sometimes being blatant and obvious is a strength of its own; if we hit the bad guys hard enough that they have to keep their heads down then that's passive harm reduction right there, plus it empowers the innocent to know that the angry Fist of Arachne is out there dispensing justice.
 
[X] The plan was stealth. You'd make your entrance carefully and quietly, take what you could, and get out quietly. It'd be difficult to get everything. Nobody would know it was Arachne.

Why would she even want to go loud?
 
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[X] The plan was patience. You'd go in carefully and quietly, and you'd make multiple trips. Once you knew the patrol schedule, you would more or less have the run of the place.
 
[X] The plan was stealth. You'd make your entrance carefully and quietly, take what you could, and get out quietly. It'd be difficult to get everything. Nobody would know it was Arachne.
 
Given that canonically Arachne's mom is a massive Sailor Moon nerd, when Arachne reveals that she has superpowers to her, taking advantage of the "I have a transformation sequence now" would be so worth it just for the spit-take.

[X] The plan was stealth. You'd make your entrance carefully and quietly, take what you could, and get out quietly. It'd be difficult to get everything. Nobody would know it was Arachne.

Marlowe310811 said:
Theoretically, at least, we're talking about someone who not only can know when a camera will look a particular direction with total certainty, but can also tell it *not* to. Any human guard with a Mk.I Eyeball will still require stealth to avoid, sure, but Liv can plausibly just be like "do not see me" to the electronic security system and have it work perfectly. I absolutely have to see this in action.
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Yes, although we've observed that the most capable security systems, those with an AI or something close to an AI attached, seem to be able to resist Arachne's technopathy. What are the odds that the Life Foundation has something like that?
 
[X] The plan was stealth. You'd make your entrance carefully and quietly, take what you could, and get out quietly. It'd be difficult to get everything. Nobody would know it was Arachne.
 
[X] The plan was stealth. You'd make your entrance carefully and quietly, take what you could, and get out quietly. It'd be difficult to get everything. Nobody would know it was Arachne.
 
[X] The plan was stealth. You'd make your entrance carefully and quietly, take what you could, and get out quietly. It'd be difficult to get everything. Nobody would know it was Arachne.
 
[X] The plan was stealth. You'd make your entrance carefully and quietly, take what you could, and get out quietly. It'd be difficult to get everything. Nobody would know it was Arachne.
 
Simon_Jester said:
Not nearly enough sparkly girl power. So no, she made the right choice.
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There are female riders. One of them has cat ears on her spacesuit! Please ignore that aside from Dragon Knight's* Kamen Rider Siren, no female rider actually meaningfully contributes until Poppy and Nico, unless you count Mage and Necrom Pink in the movies, but the movies aren't entirely canon. Also Zi-O is weird enough in continuity because it has more crossovers than Decade to the point that they made a series of accompanying webisodes to explain the continuity and released them alongside the regular episodes.

Point is, "Henshin!" is absolutely appropriate and there are Kamen Riders who get sparkly girl powers in the transformation sequence. At least the first time, by the third or fourth episode they just yell "Henshin!" off-screen and have the suit actor run in because the henshin sequence is expensive.

And if Liv for whatever reason needs to go to Japan, people will call her Kamen Rider. And you thought the weebery was bad now, just wait until Liv, May, or Athena find out about Kamen Rider.

*So due to localization shennanigans and something similar to Power Rangers, Kamen Rider Ryuki got turned into Kamen Rider Dragon Knight, with major plot changes and character changes. And the thing is, it's actually regarded as better, to the point that Kamen Rider Dragon Knight got re-imported back to Japan as Dragon Knight. In Ryuki, she's Kamen Rider Femme and her whole schtick is that she's a girl. In Dragon Knight, she's a better fighter than most of the guys. In an even more surprising twist, this was done by 4kids.
 
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samdamandias said:
There are female riders. One of them has cat ears on her spacesuit! Please ignore that aside from Dragon Knight's* Kamen Rider Siren, no female rider actually meaningfully contributes until Poppy and Nico, unless you count Mage and Necrom Pink in the movies, but the movies aren't entirely canon. Also Zi-O is weird enough in continuity because it has more crossovers than Decade to the point that they made a series of accompanying webisodes to explain the continuity and released them alongside the regular episodes.

Point is, "Henshin!" is absolutely appropriate and there are Kamen Riders who get sparkly girl powers in the transformation sequence. At least the first time, by the third or fourth episode they just yell "Henshin!" off-screen and have the suit actor run in because the henshin sequence is expensive.
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Yeah, yeah, sure.

Tradeoffs.

"Henshin!" respectably fits the aesthetic while not being a great fit for the gender expression, and I mean that non-euphemistically with "not great" not just being a way to say "extremely bad."

"Spider Bite Power... Make UP!" is a bad fit for the aesthetic, but a goddamn outstanding fit for the gender expression.

Given Liv's circumstances and level of girlfriend approval from this whole arrangement, I think she's making the right choice.

And if Liv for whatever reason needs to go to Japan, people will call her Kamen Rider.
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Oh, they probably already do. :p

Torgamous said:
Did the interdimensional robot people not send it with that plastic film phones come with?
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I'm pretty sure interdimensional robot people are hazy on the entire concept of skin oils.
 
Ugh, I recommended this quest elsewhere, and damn, I cannot talk for shit. Trying to explain it rapidly tuned into trying to defend it and my enjoyment of it and I swear my every attempt only made them more incredulous that it could possibly be good.

I have failed you all, fellow questers, forgive me.

It is awesome that we're a super genius magical girl now and I will not be convinced otherwise.
 
Parzival95 said:
Ugh, I recommended this quest elsewhere, and damn, I cannot talk for shit. Trying to explain it rapidly tuned into trying to defend it and my enjoyment of it and I swear my every attempt only made them more incredulous that it could possibly be good.

I have failed you all, fellow questers, forgive me.

It is awesome that we're a super genius magical girl now and I will not be convinced otherwise.
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Don't worry! Pitching people on weird shit is hard as hell. It's why I tend to spend hours agonizing over high concept pitches I can use for more professional stuff (like Lieutenant Fusilier being "Robot Lesbian Sharpe in Space") but I can't even imagine how to do that for Spider-Liv.

Maybe something like "Near-future villianswap spider-man where the main character is a teenaged Olivia Octavius" but even then, it misses a lot.

Where was this, by the way?
 
open_sketch said:
Don't worry! Pitching people on weird shit is hard as hell. It's why I tend to spend hours agonizing over high concept pitches I can use for more professional stuff (like Lieutenant Fusilier being "Robot Lesbian Sharpe in Space") but I can't even imagine how to do that for Spider-Liv.

Maybe something like "Near-future villianswap spider-man where the main character is a teenaged Olivia Octavius" but even then, it misses a lot.

Where was this, by the way?
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It was over on the projection quest discord. It went downhill for me fast, we didn't even get past chargen before it turned into an argument over being Olivia Octavius the technopath and how she possibly qualified to be a spider person.

Edit: that came later actually, it started with the CIA coup and the failure of the election rigging.
 
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It sounds more like "Olivia Octavius is clearly a bad person and should not be taking on a heroic role."

Which, well, our Olivia isn't such a bad person, but that is in large part because of very specific actions and choices that have caused her to radically break character to the point where I'm pretty sure she's nigh-unrecognizable as "an Olivia Octavius."
 
open_sketch said:
Here's Liv's new activation symbol thingy. She's already got fingerprints on it!
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Oh, um, could you Threadmark that under Media?
open_sketch said:
"... there's an idea!" Athena said, voice giddy. "Oh, yes, ask for that that! It would make everything so much easier, oh my god... you realize you could travel with your suit now, like on planes, you wouldn't have to lug the suit around..."
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Mission "make Athena happy and less stressed about Liv's safety" appears to be a wonderful success! I hadn't thought of the plane benefit, but that is a nice boon.
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May's suggestion of a magical girl transformation brought to mind the ones from Marionette Vampires and Sailor Moon and you worried for a moment you'd just gotten weeaboo all over another dimension-
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Judging by the thematic transformation accessory and transformation sequence: You totally did, Liv, and the result is glorious.
 
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