[] she made some kinda medical spray, and its actually kinda cool. like, you spray it on, and it just stops the bleeding on the spot. the parts touching the air solidify in less than a minute, and the parts that aren't touching the air can be easily broken down by the body, including some kinda anti-septic stuff. its not perfect, but it helps a lot and is something shes real proud of
 
[X] We're getting a dog. Well, quite a few more legs than a dog. But it's fast, though, cuddly and just smart enough that I don't have to puppet it everytime it encounters a ledge.
[x] its some cool new robotic arm designs? they've got all sorts of gadgets, jointed more like tentacles, and they're twice as strong as anything she's built before.
[X] She's been playing with some of those left over smart fabric scraps, something about reactive pigmentation? (More traditional optical camo. Octocamo if you will)
[X] she's building some kind of armoured thingy this time??? she used her money from her new app to rent a plasma cutter and stuff, its wild. like a whole suit

4th vote for if the write in is rejected
 
I am a simple individual. I see SketchQuest, I follow.

[X] she's building some kind of armoured thingy this time??? she used her money from her new app to rent a plasma cutter and stuff, its wild. like a whole suit
[X] its some cool new robotic arm designs? they've got all sorts of gadgets, jointed more like tentacles, and they're twice as strong as anything she's built before.
[X] shes taking another run at a new prosthetic. this one is human-shaped at least, but its all steel and heavy duty plastics. for special occasions.
 
[X] she's building some kind of armoured thingy this time??? she used her money from her new app to rent a plasma cutter and stuff, its wild. like a whole suit
[X] its some cool new robotic arm designs? they've got all sorts of gadgets, jointed more like tentacles, and they're twice as strong as anything she's built before.
[X] shes taking another run at a new prosthetic. this one is human-shaped at least, but its all steel and heavy duty plastics. for special occasions.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Spoit on Sep 14, 2020 at 1:47 AM, finished with 78 posts and 49 votes.

I'm not convinced that it really makes sense to have both the human and octopus arms. Though can someone on the vote train remind me what the goal for chosing the human arm is, again? Mostly secret identity stuff, or just so that we can have something shiny to distract any space raccoons that might appear?
 
what the goal for choosing the human arm is, again?
I can't speak for everyone's motives, but I feel that it adds something in terms of familiarity, which can be a good thing in terms of common actions, and avoid a bad thing in terms of trying to do things that our prosthetic doesn't do as well as we instinctually expected. It also has, I feel, a bit more leverage, precision, and convenience by being mounted closer to to where it is used. The bonus arms will likely have difficulty working close to our body, and be trying to hold and manipulate things at the end of a long extension from our back rather something that is insider of their usual coverage. Then there is the fact that we have been studying prosthetics, also we may as well put that study into our costume.

Then again, it could easily be a trap option trying to steal away my precious transhumanitee, bogging us down with feeble human sausage-fingers when we could be so much more... .
 
[X] its some cool new robotic arm designs? they've got all sorts of gadgets, jointed more like tentacles, and they're twice as strong as anything she's built before.
[X] We're getting a dog. Well, quite a few more legs than a dog. But it's fast, though, cuddly and just smart enough that I don't have to puppet it everytime it encounters a ledge.
[X] she's building some kind of armoured thingy this time??? she used her money from her new app to rent a plasma cutter and stuff, its wild. like a whole suit

Tentacles+gadgets: general power upgrade, with a bonus of looking rad
Spider-friend: Provides remote surveillance and intelligence, since knowing is half the battle (and the other half is the battle). Also provides emotional support, which is still basically guaranteed to be important.
Armor: Because we'd really rather not lose any more limbs.

I'm not a fan of the humanoid prosthetic. While it'd potentially be useful for, like, public outreach/PR stunts, we're not really doing many of those and the ones we would do should be fine with what we've got. Notably it's NOT for daily civilian use, where having a more normal prosthetic could be useful (no matter how awesome as our current tentacle-arm is). I just don't see it being useful for superhero tasks.
 
I just don't see [the upgraded prosthetic hand] being useful for superhero tasks.
My imagination is saying that it is more versatile. I really don't have a sufficiently clear idea of how capable the tentacles are. If they can screw-in a lightbulb, type on a keypad, stick a wire into a socket, and play a guitar, then the hand becomes much less desirable, and the tentacle upgrade may well address that issue. Otherwise it will generally be much less of an investment into combat, but may be useful in technical issues and would probably help with our super-engineering when we want something more heavy-duty than our civilian one.

I am going to stick with the hand, but I respect the choice to dismiss its value.
 
To me, the "human hand" is a safety/security choice -- using our current prosthetic means it's likelier someone will notice or discover that Spider-Girl is missing an arm. Remember how the Starkbots already clocked Liv for a 22% likelihood of being Spider-Girl? If it becomes known/noticeable that Spider-Girl has a prosthetic arm, that number would skyrocket ... and sure, the Starkbots are offline (to the best of our knowledge) but they're not the only ones in the data mining/extrapolation game out there, and they're not the only threat. Just off the top of my head: NYPD has a real hate-on for Liv as Spider-Girl*, rogue operators exiled after the Red Skull reveal who know who's to blame, and there really is no limit to the number of shady megacorps in NYC who could use/abuse knowledge of a superhero's identity.

By contrast, if this hand/prosthetic is good enough to pass, it would much more effectively cloak Liv's identity, as nobody's going to even consider that Spider-Girl has a prosthetic or that Liv might be a superhero with hers. Which. If your cisheteronormative patriarchy is gonna be ableist, you might as well take advantage of its blindspots.




*I can only imagine that local sheriffs and the state police (who I can tell you, from experience, seem to have all sense of humour and empathy sucked out of them by their stupid fucking hats) probably feel the same way about Spider-Girl
 
To me, the "human hand" is a safety/security choice -- using our current prosthetic means it's likelier someone will notice or discover that Spider-Girl is missing an arm. Remember how the Starkbots already clocked Liv for a 22% likelihood of being Spider-Girl? If it becomes known/noticeable that Spider-Girl has a prosthetic arm, that number would skyrocket ... and sure, the Starkbots are offline (to the best of our knowledge) but they're not the only ones in the data mining/extrapolation game out there, and they're not the only threat. Just off the top of my head: NYPD has a real hate-on for Liv as Spider-Girl*, rogue operators exiled after the Red Skull reveal who know who's to blame, and there really is no limit to the number of shady megacorps in NYC who could use/abuse knowledge of a superhero's identity.

By contrast, if this hand/prosthetic is good enough to pass, it would much more effectively cloak Liv's identity, as nobody's going to even consider that Spider-Girl has a prosthetic or that Liv might be a superhero with hers. Which. If your cisheteronormative patriarchy is gonna be ableist, you might as well take advantage of its blindspots.




*I can only imagine that local sheriffs and the state police (who I can tell you, from experience, seem to have all sense of humour and empathy sucked out of them by their stupid fucking hats) probably feel the same way about Spider-Girl
Worth pointing out, Liv uses different prosthetics between civillian (weird smart fabric alien arm) and super (regular looking more standard cybernetic).
So her superheroing arm is not especially identifiable.
 
Worth pointing out, Liv uses different prosthetics between civillian (weird smart fabric alien arm) and super (regular looking more standard cybernetic).
So her superheroing arm is not especially identifiable.
The point is that Liv and Arachne are both missing an arm on the same side and have similar profiles. (Since they're the same profile, but obscured by the suit). And as Liv has already demonstrated to her school, it's possible to have more then one prosthetic arm.
 
I don't think the superhero arm is supposed to be a stealth arm though.

[ ] shes taking another run at a new prosthetic. this one is human-shaped at least, but its all steel and heavy duty plastics. for special occasions.

It sounds like the return of this option.

[ ] The arm is clunky steel looking, retro as hell, with exposed (and easy to clean) pistons and joints. You look like a Terminator!
 
The point is that Liv and Arachne are both missing an arm on the same side and have similar profiles. (Since they're the same profile, but obscured by the suit). And as Liv has already demonstrated to her school, it's possible to have more then one prosthetic arm.
I was talking about likelihood not the outcomes of it being used to id us.

Yes however the previous arm withstood scrutiny for months and the vote talks about enhanced strength not hard to realise its not a prosthetic.
Whereas the cloth arm is probably the single most identifiable arm in the world.

Therefore I consider this important context for anyone who is worried by this. Missing an arm is a distinguishing feature that could do a lot to id Liv however its has not happened after months of heroing.

Also the break may help cover up the arm as an id because most people will naturally look to our most recent break as the explanation for when she lost her arm. However I wouldn't bet Liv's career on that obviously, its not immensely foolproof.
 
[X] We're getting a dog. Well, quite a few more legs than a dog. But it's fast, though, cuddly and just smart enough that I don't have to puppet it everytime it encounters a ledge.
[X] She's been playing with some of those left over smart fabric scraps, something about reactive pigmentation? (More traditional optical camo. Octocamo if you will)
[X] she's building some kind of armoured thingy this time??? she used her money from her new app to rent a plasma cutter and stuff, its wild. like a whole suit
 
The point is that Liv and Arachne are both missing an arm on the same side and have similar profiles. (Since they're the same profile, but obscured by the suit). And as Liv has already demonstrated to her school, it's possible to have more then one prosthetic arm.
The armor might also be able to obscure her profile and hide that one if her arms is a prosthetic
 
Experiments
Athena.exe Today at 07:33
sure, just for u
this is super top secret of course
she got the robot arms i mentioned, shes almost done those
another new prosthetic because of course
and shes rented this plasma cutter for some absurd new thing
its like metal oragami its totally buckwild

Walker Zero Today at 06:52
god i wish i shared a brain with somebody half as cool
more robots
less terrible boyfriends

---

Let's start from the beginning, one last time.

Your name is Olivia Octavius. For two and a half-ish agonizing more months, you are a 17 year old transgender girl from New York City. The year is 2030, the date is June 2nd, and you're doing your absolute level best to live at your girlfriend's house right now. See, the air condition at your place broke, because of course it did, and this was basically not a tolerable situation when the temperature was doing its damnedest to get about 90 every day. You couldn't even imagine what July and August was going to be like if this was early June.

But May's place had central air and the best air conditioner of all time, and while it wasn't why she was the Greatest Human, it was ranking pretty high right now.

"Holy shit, you see this thing from London?" she asked, holding her phone up so you could see. You were sprawled out on the couch where all your hangouts seemed to spend most of their time, owing to the fact she had fancy little lap tables so you could do homework together, her video game systems were right there, and also when her parents weren't around (which was often) it was a good excuse to cuddle up to one another.

Mostly that last one.

Really almost entirely that last one.

On the screen was a short video of a person wearing what kind of looked like a CQC Ltd soft exoskeleton, like the sort British Army soldiers used, except it was still in tan primer and had some red plates crudely attached. The reason it was notable was because it was footage from one of the omnipresent riots in London, and the wearer threw a punch into the riot shields that blew the wielder and most of his cop friends off the feet with a flash that definitely looked like electricity. The line broke down, and the protesters swarmed them, pulling equipment from their hands and chasing the cops down the street as the kettle broke down and people escaped.

"Holy shit." you said, "I'm guessing its some kind of contact plasma generator, like those fucked up riot cannons." you said. You'd seen them used on TV all the time growing up, but usually they were bigger and bulkier, vehicle mounted: they fired a blast of searing hot air that dispersed so fast that it wouldn't burn anyone (so they say... burns of varying degrees were common among protesters these days) but would expand suddenly with a thunderclap, knocking people flat with the shockwave. A concussion grenade with no risk of shrapnel. It was cool to see the tech hacked and turned around.

"Guess London was feeling left out on the superhero thing. Just like Crimson Cowl." May said. "That's so neat."

"It's dangerous is what. I hope they get out okay." you said.

"Yeah... you ever wonder what happened with Arachne?" May asked, "She was really cool. I feel like she disappeared at some point."

Oh jeez.

"Did she? I guess, yeah." you replied, doing your best to sound disinterested. You had no idea if you were a good liar or not and this was not a great place to have to find out.

"Yeah... it sort of feels like she dropped off the radar at the same time the Crimson Cowl started doing stuff. I hope she's alright." May said wistfully.

"She's probably fine." you said, trying not to panic, "I bet she just dropped the identity. Too much heat because of the CIA thing, you know?"

"Oh! Maybe she is the Crimson Cowl? Have they ever been seen together?" May speculated, poking at her phone again. Through your tech sense, you followed her search engine request bouncing through the internet, and raced ahead to check. No... you were in the clear... "Huh... yeah, that's probably it. Neat as heck."

"As heck. Hey, weren't we supposed to be doing homework?" you asked, desperate to change the topic. May made a face of utter disgust.

"I guess. I don't understand why. It's not like any of this matters right now. T-minus 15 days to graduation. I don't even know why they're still assigning us stuff." she complained, "Especially math stuff."

You glanced over at the problems in her textbook. Just running your eyes over the polynomial equations, you could see the graphs she was supposed to plot unfold in your mind, the detailed filled in instantly by whatever force of infinite computing power lurked behind your eyes. Sure, you could do it yourself, but you didn't even have to think about it, it wasn't your brain doing the work. It'd be spooky if it wasn't so useful.

"Want me to show you a trick?" you asked, and she gave you a very funny look.

"What are you proposing, Olivia?" she asked, a quality to her voice that made you shiver a title. You'd watched enough movies with her to recognize femme fatale voice.

"To... uh... make it easier to... solve... this..." you said awkwardly, "So we can do other stuff."

"... Other stuff?" she responded in the same voice. Aaaaaaaah!

"Video games?" you proposed.

"... Video games?" she said, the voice holding only momentarily, then she started laughing, "Sounds good. What's the trick?"

Your artificial arm snapped into shape to grip her tablet in its silicon fingers, then shot back, pulling it into your hand. Explaining was like putting your brain on autopilot, like connecting the pipe of Mysterious Math Juice to your mouth and letting it run while your conscious mind wandered. It was getting... more than a little hard to ignore that May was trying to escalate things in your relationship, like... physically? She'd had six months to process the hurt of her last relationship and reevaluate her opinion, but you? Holy shit you were not ready for that. Oh my God no. The very idea turned your veins to fucking ice.

Cuddling was fine. Great! Wonderful. Also, making out, that was good, you liked that bit. But the idea of anything more than that was... well, dysphoria was the fucking worst, and it made what ought to be an excited idea into something you absolutely dreaded. Two weeks ago, after Prom, you'd ended up by total happenstance in a room together at an unsupervised house party, and you'd never felt so much like you'd dodged a bullet in your life when she said she was on her period and you played video games instead. And you'd actually dodged bullets for real!

(This had also begun the unbelievably funny running gag in your texts that "reenacting prom night" was code for "playing smash brothers").

"That actually sounds harder." May said.

"It's... it shouldn't be?" you said, frowning. She pushed her tablet away and leaned back against the sofa, groaning until it became a comedic gurgle and she flopped over onto your shoulder.

"Dead from math. Let's play something." she said, and a few minutes later you were setting up for more Play God. She was starting to get startlingly good at it, and watching her interstellar civilizations grow was the highlight of your visits. Her current, almost unbelievably adorable gecko-people were rapidly spreading through the local spiral arm, and had encountered some less cute neighboring civilizations, pulled from some other player's game. The miniature simulated galaxy wasn't big enough for the two of them, and you knew May's opinion on what qualities were most important for the survival of the species.

You were watching the glowing afterimage of an adorable tiny nuclear purge when she leaned against you and poked your thigh.

"So what's your weird robot stuff today, huh? You've been really secretive." she asked.

"It's, uh... just some experiments." you said. She laughed.

"You gonna show me? I love your robots." she asked.

"Maybe? I'm not sure. We'll see it if works." you responded cagily.

By experiments, you meant it was the new Arachne suit. You'd went back to the drawing board to take full advantage of your miniaturized arc reactor and the new technology you had access to or had invented since. The limbs were now articulated by coiled steel artificial muscle, making them stronger than ever, and you'd added an extra joint, from three to four, which would make movement smoother and more flexible than ever. All the joints were now capable of independent rotation as well, whereas previously rotation was limited to the base and the ends. Atop that, the clawed ends were packed with every technological doodad you could come up with an afford on the budget TrackMerge and your new app (another music one, which would dynamically remix songs into the style of another artist using uploaded samples). There was a taser, most of a toolbox, your webshooters, cameras for looking around corners, smoke generators, a pneumatic launcher that could fire anything that would fit in the end of the claw, and a blinding strobe light inspired by the Crimson Cowl's gear. You could even take it off, lay it down somewhere, and activate a 3d printer function which could fabricate (slightly less robust) replacement parts.

This was attached to a new suit that you'd cut together out of some cheap military surplus armour plating you'd maybe bought from a very shady man over the internet who was almost certainly in the Russian mob. The stuff was almost unbelievably tough, so much so you'd had to rent workshop space to use a plasma torch to cut it (and even then it wasn't easy), but you'd built yourself some armoured protection. It wasn't full coverage, you were hardly a Stark Suit, but under your hood was a sturdy helmet and upper faceplate, and you had plates covering your vital organs and major arteries, plus your wrists so you could easily block things. It felt badass, yet with all the improvements you'd made to the harness the entire thing actually weighed less total than your previous rig.

(You'd also shaped the chest to imply assets you really didn't have, which also felt pretty fucking rad.)

The best part, though, was that you'd very carefully laid it all out so it'd fold up small. So small it'd fit in a regular school backpack, rather than the giant surplus military one you'd had to use previously. So small you could take it with you on trips and not stand out. That had been the original impetus behind the extra leg joints, and as you refined the design you kept finding more and more ways to compress it. It'd basically become a small rectangle of steel and tough plastic after you took it off.

Today, though, today was the final component. You were building yourself a new prosthetic arm. Not because the one you had wasn't good enough, you loved your weird slinky hand, but Arachne wasn't supposed to be disabled, and your old plastic arm was a liability in combat. You were putting the last of your electric muscle fiber and military plate to work creating a new arm. It'd not be precise, but it'd be fast, nearly as strong as your natural one, and extremely tough. Plus, it would move naturally enough to fool people.

"I still think you should have finished that cute little robot dog." May said, pouting a bit. You reached over to pat her head with your prosthetic, which you loved to do (and she loved to pretend to hate, given her hair would cling to the silicon).

"If this stuff doesn't work, I probably will." you said, "Why are your geckos making so much antimatter?"

"... you'll see." May said ominously.

---

Alas, you did have to leave to finish your roboting, and you did so with promises to hang out at school tomorrow and maybe this time listen to May's fashion advice (which you'd do if her advice wasn't always trying to steer you out of your various oversized garments). You made it home with a spring in your step, slightly dampened by the ache in your arm that returned with a vengeance on the train ride home (and the fact you passed what a quick check of the police scanners indicated was a double homocide just a block away from your house), ate a quarter of a cookie (now partially paid for with Medicare subsidies!), and got to work.

Arachne was coming back to the streets of New York City.

===

What's Liv's plan for Arachne's return?
[ ] So... there was a warehouse in Bensonhurst that was being used to move illegal weapons into New York, including stripping smart guns of their restrictive software. Police are either ignorant, corrupt, or don't want to tangle with it. Justine has wanted to do something about it for a while, but she hasn't had the capacity alone. But with you helping...​
[ ] Honestly, a low key return is best. Just go out on a patrol like you use to, say hi to people, help out where you can, and be a friendly neighbourhood spider-lady. Won't be dramatic, but it might be kinda nice.​
[ ] You were going to lay low until the next big out of the blue threat emerges. Justine and Athena had a weird punch up in an alley a few months back with a guy who claimed to be a Dark Elf, and had the speed and strength to back it up. Like Loki said, something was drawing all kinds of interstellar nonsense to New York City. It was only a matter of time.​
 
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[X ] You were going to lay low until the next big out of the blue threat emerges. Justine and Athena had a weird punch up in an alley a few months back with a guy who claimed to be a Dark Elf, and had the speed and strength to back it up. Like Loki said, something was drawing all kinds of interstellar nonsense to New York City. It was only a matter of time.

*grabs the blue dial, swings it all the way to Blue 5* YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

(if you have no idea what I'm talking about, buy Wild Talents 2nd edition)
 
See, the air condition at your place broke, because of course it did, and this was basically not a tolerable situation when the temperature was doing its damnedest to get about 90 every day.
Can we not just... fix it? Or is the house a rental and thus requires the landlord seven months to recognize that it's broken, or something?
 
[X] Honestly, a low key return is best. Just go out on a patrol like you use to, say hi to people, help out where you can, and be a friendly neighbourhood spider-lady. Won't be dramatic, but it might be kinda nice.
 
Can we not just... fix it? Or is the house a rental and thus requires the landlord seven months to recognize that it's broken, or something?
The apartment is a rental and the air conditioner does not belong to them. Liv has offered and her mom has shot it down on fear that it'll void their deposit and/or she'll break it worse.
 
[X] So... there was a warehouse in Bensonhurst that was being used to move illegal weapons into New York, including stripping smart guns of their restrictive software. Police are either ignorant, corrupt, or don't want to tangle with it. Justine has wanted to do something about it for a while, but she hasn't had the capacity alone. But with you helping...
[X] Honestly, a low key return is best. Just go out on a patrol like you use to, say hi to people, help out where you can, and be a friendly neighbourhood spider-lady. Won't be dramatic, but it might be kinda nice.

I like these options. On the one hand, low-key is nice, especially given that we hung up the cowl for a while from burnout. On the other hand, heading out with Justine instantly shuts down the theory that she's Arachne, which should be good for some bonus awkward social interactions.
 
[X] Honestly, a low key return is best. Just go out on a patrol like you use to, say hi to people, help out where you can, and be a friendly neighbourhood spider-lady. Won't be dramatic, but it might be kinda nice.

this sounds so nice

i miss going outside and saying hello to people

EDIT: (for posterity, the West Coast of the US was/is on fire and happen to be lucky enough to be away enough from the fires that the only thing I have to worry about is smoke inhalation. Also there was/is The Great Illness)
 
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[jk] make a robot boyfriend for walker

[X] You were going to lay low until the next big out of the blue threat emerges. Justine and Athena had a weird punch up in an alley a few months back with a guy who claimed to be a Dark Elf, and had the speed and strength to back it up. Like Loki said, something was drawing all kinds of interstellar nonsense to New York City. It was only a matter of time.

I don't think the warehouse is a good idea, because things like the Liberator pistol already exist OTL. Going after the warehouse might let us get up the chain, but I want to see more weirdness. And more Loki. Or does Loki go by the name of Lye Smith while on Midgard?
 
[X] Honestly, a low key return is best. Just go out on a patrol like you use to, say hi to people, help out where you can, and be a friendly neighbourhood spider-lady. Won't be dramatic, but it might be kinda nice.

This or Loki shenanigans. Did Athena ever read up on the magic book Loki gave her?

I'm also a little confused, did we get the top 4 picks instead of three? Were the compactness and armor split?
 
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