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Terminus Quest: A CKII Mass Effect Quest

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[X] Plan One Step At A Time edit
-[x]Demands
--[x] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
--[x] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
-[x] Leverage
--[x] The dissolution of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty and a complete blockade of Lystheni space (claim the LBZ and put defense platforms in every system to make sure that nothing passes).
--[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
-[x] Concessions
--[x] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF)
 
Well, Javik is the only remnant of an empire that fell, but he doesn't really count as an empire by himself.
 
[X]Plan Steamroller
--[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
--[X] The resumption of trade, this time on Virmirean terms (resumed trade relations with an open market, economically subordinating the Lystheni to you and proving far more profitable than the previous, protectionist agreement).
--[X] Full Lystheni commitment to the Rachni War effort (all Lystheni military assets placed under your command).
--[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
--[X] A network of your best observation posts throughout Lystheni space (become Big Sister).
-[X] Leverage
--[X] A continued complete trade embargo (what it says).
--[X] The dissolution of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty and a complete blockade of Lystheni space (claim the LBZ and put defense platforms in every system to make sure that nothing passes).
-[X] Concessions
--[X] A general withdrawal of militaryforces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
 
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Adhoc vote count started by HanEmpire on Mar 5, 2018 at 5:28 PM, finished with 11656 posts and 29 votes.
  • [X]Plan Steamroller
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] The resumption of trade, this time on Virmirean terms (resumed trade relations with an open market, economically subordinating the Lystheni to you and proving far more profitable than the previous, protectionist agreement).
    --[X] Full Lystheni commitment to the Rachni War effort (all Lystheni military assets placed under your command).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    --[X] A network of your best observation posts throughout Lystheni space (become Big Sister).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] A continued complete trade embargo (what it says).
    --[X] The dissolution of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty and a complete blockade of Lystheni space (claim the LBZ and put defense platforms in every system to make sure that nothing passes).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X] Plan Hard Line part 2
    -[X]Demands
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] The resumption of trade, this time on Virmirean terms (resumed trade relations with an open market, economically subordinating the Lystheni to you and proving far more profitable than the previous, protectionist agreement).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    --[X] A network of your best observation posts throughout Lystheni space (become Big Sister).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X] Plan Opening Salvo
    -[X]Demands
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X]Plan Steamroller
    [X]Plan Steamroller
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] The resumption of trade, this time on Virmirean terms (resumed trade relations with an open market, economically subordinating the Lystheni to you and proving far more profitable than the previous, protectionist agreement).
    --[X] Full Lystheni commitment to the Rachni War effort (all Lystheni military assets placed under your command).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    --[X] A network of your best observation posts throughout Lystheni space (become Big Sister).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] A continued complete trade embargo (what it says).
    --[X] The dissolution of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty and a complete blockade of Lystheni space (claim the LBZ and put defense platforms in every system to make sure that nothing passes).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X] Plan One Step At A Time edit
    -[X]Demands
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] The dissolution of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty and a complete blockade of Lystheni space (claim the LBZ and put defense platforms in every system to make sure that nothing passes).
    --[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
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Dwergar said:
Also, their indigenous designs are crap, therefore their weekend warriors would clamor for better ships and retiring their current ones.
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Remember, if we get their military forces, we wouldn't use them on the frontlines.
They don't have the training, and they don't share our doctrine anyway.
So if we get their military warships, we'd use them to supplement our patrols of the Kepler Verge. And for that, frigates are just fine.

Dwergar said:
And lastly, we can extort outrageous sums out of them for these blueprints.
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They can't afford them.
Not to buy the design, not to crew the ships, and not to operate them.
Really.
 
PoptartProdigy said:
As the door to your quarters clicks shut, Kirai turns to you. "She is a novice."

"I noticed that," you say, crossing to your desk and putting down your belongings. "Goddess, that felt easy. Was I that bad when I first took office?"

She shakes her head. "No. No, you were much better! She's not merely unpracticed and loose with her tongue, she is a walking disaster! If I worked for her I would have locked her in her office rather than allowed her to speak with you face to face!" The Matriarch grimaces. "I suppose the upside is that you've made it clear to her exactly how the situation stands."

"Yeah," you say, frowning. "And she showed more than I imagine she wanted. She was considering attacking us, for a while there."

"Is that why you tensed up?" says Kirai.

"Well noticed," you say. "Yes. I know how that tension looks. Remember, Lissa and I did mercenary work during our maidenhood travels. I've been in situations that went bad before. I'll bet that everybody in that room was armed." Reaching under you desk, you pull out one of your spare pistols, and carry it over to Kirai. "Except for you." You hold it out to her. She takes it on reflex. "Log an hour a day in the cargo hold practicing with that. The crew will set up a range for you. Carry it with you when we meet with them again."

She stares down at the gun, wide-eyed, and you have the rare pleasure of seeing the traditionally unflappable matriarch unsettled. "I...I've never..."

"I don't expect you to need it," you say. "If the Lystheni's ground forces are anything like their navy, one of our soldiers is worth twenty of theirs. Furthermore, you'll be of more use supporting us with biotics. But you will have a sidearm, if things go sideways. This isn't a maiden talking down to a matriarch. This is a combat veteran and a commanding officer giving a civilian subordinate an order. You will follow it. Understood?"

She looks up at you, the shock on her face swiftly turning to evaluation. After a moment, she nods.

You return it. "Good." You sit down on one of your chairs and gesture for her to take a seat as well. "Now...let's talk about our approach, when we get this show back on the road."
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Hm. Now, this is interesting. It shows the developing relationship between Kirai and Mira, that Kirai's willing to accept Mira's personal correction and expertise. (Recognizing that her personal Martial score of 4 leaves her woefully ignorant in these matters - that being a matriarch doesn't mean she has all the answers. This is almost certainly a good thing.)
 
Doomed Wombat said:
Nah I know why there ain't, but we dunno enough about the Levithans to assign them a single ethic.

Though on reflection the Reapers should count as berserk custodians.
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The Leviathans could be spiritualists maybe. And maybe something with slavery, since they built their civilization around mind controlling lesser races. Spiritualist xenophobes?

Back to the plans. Steamroller minus the part about joining the war effort sound good. Asking for it may bite us if they agree just to mess with us or get more information down the line. Maybe replace it with economic assistance to the war, justified by us basically protecting them from the Rachni.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Miner249er on Mar 6, 2018 at 7:18 PM, finished with 11666 posts and 32 votes.
  • [X]Plan Steamroller
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] The resumption of trade, this time on Virmirean terms (resumed trade relations with an open market, economically subordinating the Lystheni to you and proving far more profitable than the previous, protectionist agreement).
    --[X] Full Lystheni commitment to the Rachni War effort (all Lystheni military assets placed under your command).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    --[X] A network of your best observation posts throughout Lystheni space (become Big Sister).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] A continued complete trade embargo (what it says).
    --[X] The dissolution of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty and a complete blockade of Lystheni space (claim the LBZ and put defense platforms in every system to make sure that nothing passes).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X] Plan Hard Line part 2
    -[X]Demands
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] The resumption of trade, this time on Virmirean terms (resumed trade relations with an open market, economically subordinating the Lystheni to you and proving far more profitable than the previous, protectionist agreement).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    --[X] A network of your best observation posts throughout Lystheni space (become Big Sister).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X] Plan Opening Salvo
    -[X]Demands
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X] Plan One Step At A Time edit
    -[X]Demands
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] The dissolution of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty and a complete blockade of Lystheni space (claim the LBZ and put defense platforms in every system to make sure that nothing passes).
    --[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    -[X] Start laughing
    —[X] Continue laughing
    —-[X] No
    ——[X] The borders will remain as they are, the fleet will remain at their locations because that is where we have basing for them and if trade resumes it will be on our terms. You and yours have wronged Virmire. You cannot make demands from a position established with paranoia, mistrust and a history of espionage.
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[jk] Plan laugh your ass off
-[X] Start laughing
—[X] Continue laughing
—-[X] No
——[X] The borders will remain as they are, the fleet will remain at their locations because that is where we have basing for them and if trade resumes it will be on our terms. You and yours have wronged Virmire. You cannot make demands from a position established with paranoia, mistrust and a history of espionage.

Oh to wish for the stars.
 
[X]Plan Steamroller

I'd bracket this with some form of gunboat diplomacy as well, actually. This Dalatrass is thick as a brick, but the sight of heavy warships loaded for bear would punctuate our statement of "You exist by our sufferance right now" quite strongly.
 
Well at least with plan steamroller we get to see if its possible for the Dalatrass to go white with fear if she believes the threats.

She has been yanking our chain for quite a while.
 
Oh yeah...about trying to 'Stellaris' Virmire....

It's technically something like....

An independent Sector colony (due to splitting from a pre established government), which has Open Borders with Asari Republics, Volus, Salarian Union and Batarian Hegemony with a (tenative) defense agreement with Rannoch.

It's population arrangement probably has Asari on Capital City square (representing us and our other Asari staff) and on any civic boosting squares (if we have any), Volus on Energy Credit Buildings, Salarians on Labs and Batarians on Mineral buildings.

Now, I'm probably using an old version here....but in terms of Civic bonuses, it probably has nearly all the Diplomancy ones (except for Ships built by us are worth double towards Federation Fleets), while dabbling in Expansion (not sure if fully done and got the Expansion bonus (+1 to Sector Limit)) and Military.

Probably Direct Democracy, but all political parties are either ruthlessly crushed or pandered to automatically so there's very little unhappiness in the general population as a whole.

All what's missing is unethical gene modding to turn the Volus into oxygen breathing race to increase natural happiness and gene modding everyone on the planet to like each other.

You haven't gone Full Stellaris until you performed Mass Scale Genemodding of alien migrants without consent of their governments (or them) and your own race in order to get those Happiness perks.

Yes, there are times when I have genemodded specisism out of political parties.
 
Tabron89 said:
You haven't gone Full Stellaris until you performed Mass Scale Genemodding of alien migrants without consent of their governments (or them) and your own race in order to get those Happiness perks.

Yes, there are times when I have genemodded specisism out of political parties.
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What is consent? :V I thought universial health care (genemod mandatory) is their right? :p
 
VoidZero said:
What is consent? :V I thought universial health care (genemod mandatory) is their right? :p
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Not when they're alien species, who should technically have dual citizenship, considering how easy it is for alien populations to visit your worlds without getting major genemods in the first place, in order to deal with any local diseases and stuff like that.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Miner249er on Mar 9, 2018 at 3:17 PM, finished with 11671 posts and 33 votes.
  • [X]Plan Steamroller
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] The resumption of trade, this time on Virmirean terms (resumed trade relations with an open market, economically subordinating the Lystheni to you and proving far more profitable than the previous, protectionist agreement).
    --[X] Full Lystheni commitment to the Rachni War effort (all Lystheni military assets placed under your command).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    --[X] A network of your best observation posts throughout Lystheni space (become Big Sister).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] A continued complete trade embargo (what it says).
    --[X] The dissolution of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty and a complete blockade of Lystheni space (claim the LBZ and put defense platforms in every system to make sure that nothing passes).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X] Plan Hard Line part 2
    -[X]Demands
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] The resumption of trade, this time on Virmirean terms (resumed trade relations with an open market, economically subordinating the Lystheni to you and proving far more profitable than the previous, protectionist agreement).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    --[X] A network of your best observation posts throughout Lystheni space (become Big Sister).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X] Plan Opening Salvo
    -[X]Demands
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X] Plan One Step At A Time edit
    -[X]Demands
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] The dissolution of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty and a complete blockade of Lystheni space (claim the LBZ and put defense platforms in every system to make sure that nothing passes).
    --[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    -[X] Start laughing
    —[X] Continue laughing
    —-[X] No
    ——[X] The borders will remain as they are, the fleet will remain at their locations because that is where we have basing for them and if trade resumes it will be on our terms. You and yours have wronged Virmire. You cannot make demands from a position established with paranoia, mistrust and a history of espionage.
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Adhoc vote count started by Miner249er on Mar 10, 2018 at 2:04 PM, finished with 11674 posts and 35 votes.
  • [X]Plan Steamroller
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] The resumption of trade, this time on Virmirean terms (resumed trade relations with an open market, economically subordinating the Lystheni to you and proving far more profitable than the previous, protectionist agreement).
    --[X] Full Lystheni commitment to the Rachni War effort (all Lystheni military assets placed under your command).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    --[X] A network of your best observation posts throughout Lystheni space (become Big Sister).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] A continued complete trade embargo (what it says).
    --[X] The dissolution of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty and a complete blockade of Lystheni space (claim the LBZ and put defense platforms in every system to make sure that nothing passes).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X] Plan Hard Line part 2
    -[X]Demands
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] The resumption of trade, this time on Virmirean terms (resumed trade relations with an open market, economically subordinating the Lystheni to you and proving far more profitable than the previous, protectionist agreement).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    --[X] A network of your best observation posts throughout Lystheni space (become Big Sister).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X] Plan Opening Salvo
    -[X]Demands
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    [X] Plan One Step At A Time edit
    -[X]Demands
    --[X] Full disclosure of Lystheni history and society, including their origins and the nature of their animosity towards the Citadel (Lystheni forced to stop being cagey).
    --[X] Full disclosure and surrender of the stations in Sikel in violation of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty (get the artifacts and the stations on which they sit, along with experimental records).
    -[X] Leverage
    --[X] The dissolution of the Virmire-Lystheni Border Treaty and a complete blockade of Lystheni space (claim the LBZ and put defense platforms in every system to make sure that nothing passes).
    --[X] War (make your implicit threat explicit).
    -[X] Concessions
    --[X] A general withdrawal of military forces (stand down the 3rd RWF).
    -[X] Start laughing
    —[X] Continue laughing
    —-[X] No
    ——[X] The borders will remain as they are, the fleet will remain at their locations because that is where we have basing for them and if trade resumes it will be on our terms. You and yours have wronged Virmire. You cannot make demands from a position established with paranoia, mistrust and a history of espionage.
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[X] Plan Hard Line part 2

Just finished reading this. I also thought the Lystheni were shady mad scientist agressors, not paranoid wrecks of a society who have no idea how diplomacy works.
 
Ridiculously Average Guy said:
[X] Plan Hard Line part 2

Just finished reading this. I also thought the Lystheni were shady mad scientist agressors, not paranoid wrecks of a society who have no idea how diplomacy works.
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These are the guys who left a mad scientist race because they believed that their government was too tame when came to artificial evolution/the singularity.

Paranoia and lack of social graces are to be expected.
 
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