The government, and the PRT, are going to find this current state of affairs rather baffling to handle when they finally realize just what's going on, too. There are quite a lot of refugees from the very, very distant past lurking in the ark, you see. And arguably they were there first.
Eh, it's not like the Family haven't already cracked the whole living space issue with fractal dimensions. For that matter, it looked like the new cousins had a start on that technology as well, so the biggest issue would be turning the spaces into proper biomes for raising crops and livestock.
 
Keep in mind, a Sidestory is still part of the universe, just not the main plot. Pretty sure the Old-New Lizards will be having a conversation, eventually, with Saurial and company.
If these new-old Lizards stick around, greeting them seems like a Varga thing to do. Head of state to head of state meeting seems the proper way to go, and "Why is that island standing up? Oh." RCB starts frantically searching for her brown pants and the Super Duct Tape to make sure Eidolon stays on base instead of trying to write a check that his body can't cash.
 
The First Project... I haven't decided yet whether it's still out there cruising around at 0.95c and time dilated to hell, or whether they found a new home. We shall most likely find out in time.

The government, and the PRT, are going to find this current state of affairs rather baffling to handle when they finally realize just what's going on, too. There are quite a lot of refugees from the very, very distant past lurking in the ark, you see. And arguably they were there first... :evil:
Funny thing, most of the USA is actually empty. At least of people. The problem with people coming in is usually that they have multiple mental traumas, little to no relevant education, may not know the language, may actually be lying about everything there is to say about them, need others to fund their new place to live, need others to fund their living expenses at least for a while and possibly permanently...

As immigrants go, this sounds more like "hey, where did those three new self-contained hypertech cities come from?" Which may or may not work out, but at least could work out.

Alternatively, go for @Trufla 's idea and set up extradimensional spaces with the Family. Alternatively conquer some area the locals have given up on and set up a city state there. Alternatively go to the Bay and join up with the Family there.

Just as a number of options that seem obvious might work at first glance, even if some of them need quite a bit more luck than others to work in the longterm.
 
Who knows? This probably isn't canon, but you never know for sure around here...



This Story reminds me very much of the Star Trek Voyager episodes involving the Voth, A group of Saurian Sapiens in the Delta Quadrant that we eventually discover evolved from Dinosaurs from the Raptor Family eventually gaining the sapience and intelligence enough to leave the Planet on early Warp Drive Craft to eventually make it to the Delta Quadrant and grow to be powerful enough that even the Borg do not mess with them. though in that version the State strictly controls all scientific knowledge and advancement under punishment of heresy. lets hope these guys on Earth Bet are not such stick in the muds. And yeah this needs to be made into cannon for this story Seriously!😜
 
lets hope these guys on Earth Bet are not such stick in the muds. And yeah this needs to be made into cannon for this story Seriously!😜
Pretty sure they'll play nice with humans. They had a perfectly reasonable, and very ethical, response to royal a**hats killing people. And those people did NOT go crazy and attack them afterwards. Especially since pretty much everybody that knows about 'The Family' knows it's pretty much 'you start it, we'll finish it, permanently' if you're that stupid. And the new-old reptiles pretty much acted exactly like that.

You really think the new-old ones would have problems when they're treated decently at first contact?
 
Amusingly I started to read this yesterday before getting distracted. When I came back to it I had forgotten which thread it was in so it took me a bit to realise these weren't humans. It took until they started talking about temporal compression for me to realise and even then I forgot this was Taylor Varga for a bit longer. But that probably just made the story mystery work better so it worked out.

Anyway amusing story and I would be very much interesting in its continuation. But I understand if real life comes first.
 
Did you just have real Lizard-people do the approximate of Schwarzneggers "I waited" because the planet was turning bad?^^

This is great. I'm grinning uncontrollably. Poor researchers^^
 
Did you just have real Lizard-people do the approximate of Schwarzneggers "I waited" because the planet was turning bad?^^

This is great. I'm grinning uncontrollably. Poor researchers^^
Which researchers? The human ones, the Lizard ones, or both? :)

Just wait till Ianthe starts handing out the 'Human Suits' to the Lizard ethnologists (you know, the ones made of flesh, that zip up the front), so they can study human society more effectively. :)

(Funny that all the suits are blonde, female, and attractive...)
 
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Which researchers? The human ones, the Lizard ones, or both? :)

Just wait till Ianthe starts handing out the 'Human Suits' to the Lizard ethnologists (you know, the ones made of flesh, that zip up the front), so they can study human society more effectively. :)

(Funny that all the suits are blonde, female, and attractive...)
Ok that is not only damn great idea but it would be hilarious even if they are all different looking humans. Going from making lizard for humans to making human suits for lizards.
 
As time permits I will extrude actual documents comprised entirely of home made wordz, many of which will relate to lizards. Because they won't let me get away with doing otherwise, you know :)

Congratulations, you know you're a Real Writer(tm) when your stories/characters are written down at least partly in the hope that they will then leave you in peace for a moment or two now.

(For whatever value of 'real writer' you feel comfortable claiming, nobody else really gets to make that decision for you.)

For they hadn't factored in a rather large asteroid.

See, my bait-and-switch sense was already tingling prior to this line, but once I saw it I knew exactly who it was. Prior to that I figured it was at least an even chance that they were much older, possibly even predating the Great Oxygenation Event(Catastrophe), which would have made adjusting to modern conditions rather difficult, not to mention dangerous.

How dare you stop it there! I wanna see the meeting so bad :V

I'd be very happy to read more of this, even aside from whether or not it became canon. I think I'd prefer it being canon, in fact. But we need to let our Wordzmithz rest and recuperate when and how they need to, or else the stories will suffer, and then we all lose.

(life stuff and personal sanity are much more important than pleasing randos on the interwebs)

Agreed, for whatever value of 'personal sanity' you may find applicable/current.

I see that suspiciously Thrint like Stasis Field just sitting over there, MP.

Clearly it's been way too long since I read any of the Known Space books. The description and effects made me think of Bobbles, particularly the way The Peace Authority (mis-)used them. I somewhat suspect my tastes no longer Niven's work either, no matter how much I avidly read and enjoyed all that I could get my hands on as a (much) younger person. Such is life.

That was amusing as heck. Wish it was a continuation of the story, but still amusing.

I'll take my Lizards pretty much any way I can get them, regardless of how much more I would wish for anyway.

Unless they're Permian-era weird lizards. Or they look like other non-Saurial lizards. I stand by the "Volcanic Calamity" hinting at them being Permian Era and thus not dinosaurs though

K-T is the most likely

I figured out it was Devil's Tower, Wyoming pretty quickly, but the volcanic activity at the beginning of the chapter is not the Siberian Traps of ~250MYA, but the Deccan Traps of 66MYA.

The Deccan Traps was my immediate suspicion, though I didn't make the Devil's Tower connection. But I'll claim never sharing either hemisphere with Wyoming as a decent excuse for the lack of geoguessing.

The exploration team didn't, for a start... :D

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Still, that quick response and the reasons behind it are excellent signs that these new folks are Good People, regardless of whether they have skin, scales or feathers.

Unfortunately, but life is like that.

Life do indeed Be Like That all too often.


For some reason I always confuse the Lylmik with the Simbiari, and I can't work out why. It's not like the Lylmik routinely drip green everywhere, after all!

And then there's The People.

That doesn't actually narrow the field down at all. Even today there's a multiple groups that describe themselves that way.

RCB starts frantically searching for her brown pants and the Super Duct Tape to make sure Eidolon stays on base instead of trying to write a check that his body can't cash.

I dunno, I'd find it hilarious for Varga to just casually backhand Eidolon through an entire mountain, like a surprisingly resilient irritating bug. Besides, he'd be certain to survive it, if not necessarily completely unscathed.

Funny thing, most of the USA is actually empty. At least of people.

Australia is even more so, and likely a closer match to their temperature preferences. Could well be a touch dryer than even their preferences though.

(Funny that all the suits are blonde, female, and attractive...)

Downright hilarious, I'd say! But then my sense of humour has always trended a bit too closely to The Family's for the comfort of many, particularly the 'Danes.
 
you know, i just did a re-read, of the latest post by you MpPI, and I gotta ask - were you Deliberately creating what sounds like a lizard version of SG1?

A lizard-girl Sam? hmmmmm....
 
And then there's The People.
That doesn't actually narrow the field down at all. Even today there's a multiple groups that describe themselves that way.
Personally, I'd be hoping for Zenna Henderson's 'The People'... Really interesting apparently humans, but...

What they would think of The Family...

you know, i just did a re-read, of the latest post by you MpPI, and I gotta ask - were you Deliberately creating what sounds like a lizard version of SG1?

A lizard-girl Sam? hmmmmm....
This is their best team, and four individuals allows some specialistion (scientist, comms specialist, etc.). I'm ignoring the DnD 5th 'standard' four character team, here. And, SG1 is supposed to be the best of the best...
 
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Agreed on the Yay! regarding Werdz (or Wordz). I'm wondering how far back they're from, though, if they didn't recognize conifers. Those things go back over 300 million years. Unless they're from even before then ... but the reference to the asteroid makes me think Our Author was thinking of the Chicxelub asteroid.
Oh, he was able to identify them as Conifers, he'd just never personally seen such before as they were apparently restricted to alpine regions in his day.
 
Personally, I'd be hoping for Zenna Henderson's 'The People'... Really interesting apparently humans, but...

Huh, that's an author I've never heard of, despite my many years in SF/F Fandom, working at multiple SF/F/H bookstores and eagerly devouring damn near any speculative fiction I could get my eager little hands on.

It's always nice to be reminded that despite all my reading and experience, there's still an awful lot I've never heard of. :D
 
It's always nice to be reminded that despite all my reading and experience, there's still an awful lot I've never heard of. :D

I love it when that happens! On YouTube, there's a woman who posts videos she makes to various filk songs. I've been in the scene for more than half my life, and she STILL can surprise me with songs I've never heard by artists who having been doing this for longer than I've been in the scene! (And it took me YEARS to get the pun Bob Kanefski put in his parody of "Phoenix" - his was about the shuttle, and was named "By the Time I Get To ..." *sigh* I am ashamed that it took me so long ...)
 
you know, i just did a re-read, of the latest post by you MpPI, and I gotta ask - were you Deliberately creating what sounds like a lizard version of SG1?

A lizard-girl Sam? hmmmmm....


OMG I just caught that! And the leader when I re-read it sounded exact6ly like Jack in my head. And the science guy is Obviously Daniel, Only thing that would've sold it is if the last Guy said 'Indeed' That would've sold it as him being Teal'c. Of course him being mostly quiet unless necessary info is being delivered is another tell.
 
I would say you know he is a big hit real writer when you see mentions of certain lizard family getting mention in other authors story and the fact Erwin is also happens to be used in I think 3 other stories by other author(s). Lol, people really seemed to have Erwin do quite the experience of different Earth Bets.
 
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I would say you know he is a big hit real writer when you see mentions of certain lizard family getting mention in other authors story and the fact Earl is also happens to be used in I think 3 other stories by other author(s). Lol, people really seemed to have Earl do quite the experience of different Earth Bets.
Did you mean 'Erwin' here?
 
The First Project... I haven't decided yet whether it's still out there cruising around at 0.95c and time dilated to hell, or whether they found a new home. We shall most likely find out in time.
This makes me think of an original Sci Fi setting a friend ran as a TTRPG; there we 4 different species that traveled through space and colonized worlds (including humanity). It turned out that all the species evolved on Earth in different time periods, and had to leave due to incoming Apocalypse(s?). Or course, none of them remembered that due to it all happening millions of years apart...

Now I want to see the new-old lizard people react to Saurial flying in on Breksta…
I want to see their reaction to what paleontologists have come up with about their home Era by looking at fossils...

"We called them Tyrannosaur Rex, the Tyrant kings, due to their size and ferocity"
"...We called them Belly Beasts, because they roll over and show their stomachs at the slightest sign of affection."
 
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