I'd say not so much asleep, as in a time-dilation field.

In terms of subjective time, it might have been only a decade or two for them, at most...

The PRT thought they were Family members. So they are clearly anthromorphic dinos. Hence saurians
Let me know when the Marshalls show up. They've been waiting since they found their way out of the Time Bubble (by ensuring their arrival), after all.
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(Rick) Marshall, Will, and Holly, on a routine expedition, met the greatest earthquake they had ever known.
High on the rapids, it struck their tiny raft, and plunged them down a thousand feet below...
 
Eh, I actually hope not. The joke's gone on long enough, it's getting boring
The 'Joke' is pretty much cover now for several people - taylor for her identity, Varga for his (and his presence), Amy for her biotinker aspect, Missy for her full capabilities - since the elite, the fallen and several other groups who might still cause trouble are out there (inc. old Golden Balls if he's at the more 'unreasonable' part of his life cycle (my personal headcanon is that all the good versions of Scion have lived long enough to mentally mature from newborn status)) it's still needed now, just for reasons other then trolling.

What happened to the Lizard slowboat (barely sub-light? light-hugger?) starship? That's one fun question. I'm guessing that was the First Survival Project. Is it still out there? Is not a starship, and is still orbitting Sol, way out, stuffed fun of statis pods???
Oh it turns out that they left completely, and colonized somewhere else, and so there is now a entire planet of dino-people somewhere.
 
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Wait, the woman with the rotary cannon; wasn't one of the Butchers known for using a minigun?

Or is this some other random? I mean, between the ghost town bit, the screaming, and the fire I kind of initially thought we were going to get Lizards Vs. The S9 but they're already very dead so is this some wannabe group that's taken up murder-hoboing in their absence?
 
Oh it turns out that they left completely, and colonized somewhere else, and so there is now a entire planet of dino-people somewhere.
If it's 250Myr, they've had enough time to have a 100Myr civilization, Transcend, leaving a successor race, them to evolve, have a 100Myr civilization, them to Transcend, and have another successor race, who evolve, to ???

That's a lota Time...
 
Let's see... located in North America, major volcanic activity halfway around the world from them, asteroid punctuating the extinction event...

I can think of three periods that this might have started as off the top of my head (P-T event, Late Triassic extinction, or the K-T event,) but over all I would suspect the last of these... if not for them failing to recognize conifers and birds, both of which existed in the Mesozoic era. However, the Mammal-like reptiles of the Permian Period could well have produced something we would call lizard like these days, precedes the evolution of birds, and even would be on a not too divergent evolutionary path from Humanity...

Just a thought.
K-T is the most likely, if the Time Ark is inside Devils Tower as the igneous material that forms the Tower is a phonolite porphyry intruded about 40.5 million years ago.
If it was the Permian-Triassic (P-T) they would most likely be Synapsids also known as stem mammals, proto-mammals, paramammals or pan-mammals.
(If they can trigger would they be para-paramammals?)
 
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What happened to the Lizard slowboat (barely sub-light? light-hugger?) starship? That's one fun question. I'm guessing that was the First Survival Project

I am also curious about that.

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Definitely amusing that the survivors of the massacre thought the ancient sapiens were Family and were relieved; I was expecting Case 53 assumptions.

Parahumans were one obvious answer to the massacre as well; interesting that the ancients can detect the Shard portals.

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For the 4 bodies hitting the floor.... a hostage fainted?

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For the future, though, Varga's obviously still out of context. They clearly aren't wide-ranging supertech; some, absolutely, like the scanner probe and life signs scanning and whatnot, but...

... they didn't notice a lot of the EM activity on Earth until the one explorer tried FM radio and found music. They clearly aren't interplanetary.

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I cannot see the Family letting the entire set of survivors in on the secret. One or two individuals, sure, but not the many, many survivors.

I can see the Family lending serious assistance to getting the survivors a place to live, political backing for their safety, supplies, introductions to the world, etc. Introductions to geologists and historians :).

Zoo field trips.

Also massive confusion. But that's normal with Family.

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Navigating Earth Bet USA cape culture's conflict with handheld parahuman detectors will be... interesting.

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I'm very happy to see some Taylor Varga back.

I'm hoping for more adventures of Cloak.
 
I'm curious about how the first megaproject was launched without access to fossil fuels. Then again, major tectonic activity might provide easier access to geothermal energy, and possibly to certain uncommon elements.

I'd have expected the explorers to discover AM before FM. There's some music on those channels, but not nearly as much.

But yeah, if this is canon, it clearly indicates something about the Varga probability manipulation. That's a second major deviation from the source material, on top of minor ones like the Medhall Tower.
 
Half the time when I read mp3's posts it feels like the joke is on me. I still have no idea whats going on.
I find a re-read can help. Then, maybe, sleep on it. More than once I've awoke with, "Oh, that's what that meant!".

If you read Our Wordzing Author's 'Bits & Pieces' thread a recent story involved several dimension travelling races, including Lizards and Bugs, meeting up. When I read that I wondered if might be suffering from Lizard Deprivation. And, this story has not only The Family, but many, many, other Lizards, as well. Was my suspicion correct?

As long as you're getting something that suits you out of the stories, I'd not worry about missing bits. Odds are, they'll make sense to you, sooner or later. Has happened to me, more than once. And, revelations like that can be fun!
 
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I love this more than you can reasonably believe. Take a Gift (and a lizard—🦎), denote the magnitude of my enjoyment for this new side story.
 
Oh Lizardy wordz! Though I do hope we get some more of the main story sooner rather than later, this was still quite fun.
 
Midway through, I was expecting some sort of reverse Planet of the Apes kind of situation, but this is more amusing.

Also, ALL life on Earth is related (flora, fauna and other), thanks to LUCA and in a lesser but no less important degree, FUCA.
 
How dare you stop it there! I wanna see the meeting so bad :V

It's highly likely there's at least one more part to this :)

Dinosaurs with a Bioseeder and a Time Dilation Machine - I picked that up pretty quickly.

But, I'll admit, by the time I got to the present I'd forgotten that we were in a probable Worm crossover. :p

lava

than

Both fixed, thanks.

@mp3.1415player, why did four bodies hit the floor when there were only three capes that they were shooting at?

My mathing ability suffered from a long day and a late night, but it's fixed :)

'lava'?
(pre-reported)


'warmer'?


'loam'?


'three'?
(pre-reported)

Fixed.

I see that suspiciously Thrint like Stasis Field just sitting over there, MP.



Our dearest author is rather well acquainted with a good number of the classics, and other obscure sources of fiction from which to randomly borrow inspiration.

The Thrint, also called Slavers by humanity, were one of the earliest sapient species to evolve on earth in Larry Niven's Known Space setting.

Niven is still alive and has a following, so I doubt his stuff is nearly as obscure as other works. However, I don't often hear people talking much about some of the good stuff written in the early through late 20th century, and yes unironically using 20th Century when talking about not that long ago really makes me feel so very old.

I'm surprised we haven't seen Squealer build a Spindizzy drive in any of his omakes yet. I think it would be hilarious if The Fam figure out how to yeet a chunk of the docks into space.



Seriously, about the only people I can immediately think of, who likely haven't heard of Niven these days, are whatever few remaining un-contacted Islanders are left in the world.

It is indeed essentially a Slaver stasis field, yes :) Except rather than set at a time dilation of near-infinity to one, it's set to about 20 million to one, meaning they can sense the outside conditions to enough resolution for it to be useful, while still allowing the people inside to survive geological-scale time periods.

And never fear... I have a vast amount of early SF to mine interesting ideas from, I mean, be inspired by :) As well as lots of my own devising. These will turn up now and then, as appropriate.

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'There's Lizards In Them There Hills!'

(BTW, you posting this has really improved my day!)

Nicely executed side-story, can't see anything stopping it being canon.

I was pretty sure the escapees were Lizards, pretty early on. Question was what world they were on, and when they were. Nice job of slowly revealing these.

Idiots trying to fill the 'gap' left by the fortunate departure of the Slaughterhouse 9, was my guess.

Bar Crawler. Who may appear in the Bay with Skidmark on his back. Wearing a cowboy hat. Yeehaa! [/wild-speculation]

What happened to the Lizard slowboat (barely sub-light? light-hugger?) starship? That's one fun question. I'm guessing that was the First Survival Project. Is it still out there? Is not a starship, and is still orbitting Sol, way out, stuffed fun of statis pods???

I'm guessing this is two-armed lizard-people, somewhere in size tween Saurial and Ianthe/Metis. Of course, they'd be the Sleeper Branch of the Family... (Yes, that'll be a bit of a surprise to them...)

For extra fun, what they speak sounds similar (to non-lizards), to the lizard-y language Varga taught Taylor and the rest of the Family, and that's in use between Family members... This will, of course, drive the Pre-Apocalypse (PA) Family lizard's linguists nuts...

Odds are Taylor now has enough math to get these refugees to another Earth, free of annoying hominids. That they can remake to suit their preferred ecology.

Them having a seat at the UN would be interesting... And, yes, they must make RCB's life more... interesting. :)

The three murderous bastards were basically a cut-price S9, yeah. I expect Earth Bet has far more of them than anyone likes to think about. The S9 are the famous ones, but there are a lot of smaller groups of bastards that pop up here and there and cause mayhem.

The First Project... I haven't decided yet whether it's still out there cruising around at 0.95c and time dilated to hell, or whether they found a new home. We shall most likely find out in time.

The government, and the PRT, are going to find this current state of affairs rather baffling to handle when they finally realize just what's going on, too. There are quite a lot of refugees from the very, very distant past lurking in the ark, you see. And arguably they were there first... :evil:

Wait, the woman with the rotary cannon; wasn't one of the Butchers known for using a minigun?

Or is this some other random? I mean, between the ghost town bit, the screaming, and the fire I kind of initially thought we were going to get Lizards Vs. The S9 but they're already very dead so is this some wannabe group that's taken up murder-hoboing in their absence?

Random fuckers, now random dead fuckers, although they would have found themselves easily getting along with the Butcher and the Teeth. Not nice people at all. No one will miss them.

The exploration team didn't, for a start... :D

Oh Lizardy wordz! Though I do hope we get some more of the main story sooner rather than later, this was still quite fun.

Main story will resume as soon as I can manage it, but I can't make any guarantees when that will be. Unfortunately, but life is like that.

I wonder if the presence of the Varga is itself altering reality to conform to Taylor's "joke".

This is less unlikely than it should be... ;)
 
That's a really cool setup for a first contact. But it feels like a waste to have it crash into the craziness of Taylor Varga. I worry this setup won't have a chance to shine when everyone already believes anything is possible when it comes to lizards.

I wonder what it would be like if these time-travelers showed up in Distance Learning instead? Or even in canon Worm?
 
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That's a really cool setup for a first contact. But it feels like a waste to have it crash into the craziness of Taylor Varga. I worry this setup won't have a chance to shine when everyone already believes anything is possible when it comes to lizards.

I wonder what it would be like if these time-travelers showed up in Distance Learning instead? Or even in canon Worm?
Well, considering how far back in the timeline they started being time-travelers, it's far too possible that they exist in multiple portions of the multiverse. DL Taylor could easily run into them, possibly when scanning for something else, instead of them popping up first.
 
Shut up, muse! Taylor Varga meeting the Hoka is NOT a good idea. Heck, the O'benn would be a better idea than the Copy Bears of the Multiverse.

Now, the Ni-Lach, that could be fun...or a certain Thenurian locksmith. Maybe Nathan Brazil. The Long family could be interesting. The Varga might find meeting the Lylmik or the Arisians to be enjoyable as well.

Heck, they could stumble into a certain Consulting Detective who knows a time traveler and have fun. But the Hoka? The multiverse would never recover.
 
I'd like to see their reaction to a Monolith. Or run into Seaton & DuQuesne preparing to end the Chlorans forever. Hell, I'd love for them to run into a Ragtag Fleet lead by Commander Adama (not Admiral Adama!!!)

And then there's The People.
 
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