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Adhoc vote count started by 7734 on Nov 21, 2018 at 12:29 PM, finished with 16 posts and 13 votes.
 
Contest 6: Team Formation
Your name is Reservat Oberstlieutenant Otto von Rabe, and honestly today's been one of those terribly confusing days. After five years of teaching intermixed with familiarization deployments, you were fairly sure that you'd finally settled down into that mythical career posting, where you could casually pick up your pay every month, go home and enjoy a beer with your wife, and watch your daughter rule over the house with a velvet mitten as she tried so hard to be the little kaiserine she wanted to be.

The fact she actually knew the Kronprinzessin only served to inspire her sometimes, and Ilse Volta certainly did good things with that. You and Anne-Marie had met the Kaiser on a few occasions, now, and were reasonably familiar with enough of the staff and royal grounds so as not to be a complete dunce when you showed up at court. While your opinion of the second son of the Empire, Leopold, was a little lower than public opinion, at least he tried. Victoria Emilia would be a better choice for the crown, as far as you were concerned, and anyone arguing against the pragmatic succession could go suck on a rosebush. Better than Wilhelm, at least, who was and always would be a brat. The one time he'd tried to pull rank on your boys in school, they'd been (unsuccessfully) accused of going in with a dozen sons of the Askari at night and tying him up in a bedsheet and leaving him out on the lawn of the girl's dormitory covered in rose petals and candles.

The fact you found Oskar and Klaus' planning documents in the same loose floorboard where they used to hide sweets only made it more obvious their original plan only involved leaving his dirty laundry on the lawn, meaning Little Billy was a target of opportunity. Bless their dervish souls, but they really needed to stick to the plan.

You'd been reactivated now, though, and it was time to dust off your lapels. The Cavalry Branch of the army had snapped three weeks ago at the General Staff and flatly declared they could not return to the pre-war strength of twenty cavalry regiments with the current levels of funding and willingness to make capital investment. During the war, expenditure of horses for the twenty cavalry regiments was roughly triple that of the men, and as such the country's horse husbandry program took a steep nosedive as bloodstock was pressed into service and the money keeping the (unprofitable) horse farms open shifted over to the Armor Branch to defray the massive costs of the iron steeds. Now, with lack of breeding capabilities, the Cavalry Branch was barely able to keep four regiments activated and one in reserve, with the remaining twenty unable to continue due to lack of mounts. As such, the entire branch had decided they wanted a mechanical horse replacement- and dragged you into the limelight, since you were the single most qualified staff officer on the topic of armor.

What they wanted, though, was something you weren't really sure on how to give them. According to the Cavalry Branch leader, Generalleutnant Faulkenburg, you needed to deliver up to three vehicles to meet the following specifications:

  1. Carry a 20mm autocannon and at least 1000 rounds of ammunition. (This was mostly optional; according to Faulkenburg. It was already planned to have each new regimental model include a company or so of W-5 tanks to meet this need)
  2. Carry supplies for independent operation for up to five days or 250km of standard operation, whichever is lesser
  3. Be able to operate with minimal maintenance for up to five days.
  4. Be able to carry a Leichtmachinegewehr 71 on pintle or turret mount
  5. Be able to carry a sled with a Mg.52 and all needed devices
  6. Hold up to two troops plus operator
  7. Traverse all common Irromic terrains (Dirt road, field, mud field, hills, valleys, mountain tongues)
  8. Tow a trailer carrying at least 150kg of supplies
  9. Carry eight men with two or more operating crew OR
  10. Carry two men with one operating crew
  11. Be able to be repaired to the point of recovery by a standardized kit to be issued with each vehicle
  12. Carry a radio reciever

You had your work cut out for you. Time to develop a Board.


Choose five

[] Hauptmann Erich Folgers: A young and somewhat distinguished armor company commander, Erich was involved in the retaking of Marienburg and the Battle of Oron, as well as leading a command tank in the Battle of the Kongo.
[] Abbot Marchevion: A Bohemian national who emigrated after a scandal in the Werser crowns forced him from home, this man is rumored to be an intelligence expert and Lithuanian sympathizer.
[] Oberstlieutenant Conrad Fenrus: The cavalry commander with the 1st "Schlangenesser" regiment, this officer is incredibly familiar what exists of breakthrough tactics in this day and age on the open plains of the West Irromedes, as well as the state of the cavalry branch.
[] Edmund Volkstuppe: A young reserve kaptain who's spent most of his career in the artillery, Volkstruppe has an unnering knowledge about light artillery and what advancements have been going on in your old backyard.
[] Terier Meklan: An engineer from Skoda's small tractor production operation, which traces back to the armor production facility. He's looking for a name for himself.
[] Abbot Potsdaman: A young representative from the Ghermain Brothers Automotive with revolutionary new plans for a flexible drive system.
[] Renne Jung: A junior member of Commorate Casting Corporation sent to help tailor whatever they build to your requests.
[] Movo Leib: A Jewish captain of the armored car cavalry sent by the Wersers in part of a bid to get you to adopt the Straßenpanzerwagen S861
 
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I am detecting a butchering of the German language. Delete the "s" and then it's OK.

[X] Abbot Marchevion: A Bohemian national who emigrated after a scandal in the Werser crowns forced him from home, this man is rumored to be an intelligence expert and Lithuanian sympathizer.
[X] Oberstlieutenant Conrad Fenrus: The cavalry commander with the 1st "Schlangenesser" regiment, this officer is incredibly familiar what exists of breakthrough tactics in this day and age on the open plains of the West Irromedes, as well as the state of the cavalry branch.
[X] Terier Meklan: An engineer from Skoda's small tractor production operation, which traces back to the armor production facility. He's looking for a name for himself.
[X] Abbot Potsdaman: A young representative from the Ghermain Brothers Automotive with revolutionary new plans for a flexible drive system.
[X] Renne Jung: A junior member of Commorate Casting Corporation sent to help tailor whatever they build to your requests.

Might be a bit too loaded up on industry guys. Considering throwing out one to get Edmund Volkstruppe, and am flexible on which of the two tank commanders we take.
 
Quick question, but why would we need an intelligence expert? Unless we have to be concerned with falsified information, Abbot seems to be pretty useless, unless we want to learn about the situation of the Lithuania.
 
[X] Hauptmann Erich Folgers: A young and somewhat distinguished armor company commander, Erich was involved in the retaking of Marienburg and the Battle of Oron, as well as leading a command tank in the Battle of the Kongo.
[X] Oberstlieutenant Conrad Fenrus: The cavalry commander with the 1st "Schlangenesser" regiment, this officer is incredibly familiar what exists of breakthrough tactics in this day and age on the open plains of the West Irromedes, as well as the state of the cavalry branch.
[X] Terier Meklan: An engineer from Skoda's small tractor production operation, which traces back to the armor production facility. He's looking for a name for himself.
[X] Abbot Potsdaman: A young representative from the Ghermain Brothers Automotive with revolutionary new plans for a flexible drive system.
[X] Renne Jung: A junior member of Commorate Casting Corporation sent to help tailor whatever they build to your requests.
 
[X] Hauptmann Erich Folgers: A young and somewhat distinguished armor company commander, Erich was involved in the retaking of Marienburg and the Battle of Oron, as well as leading a command tank in the Battle of the Kongo.
[X] Oberstlieutenant Conrad Fenrus: The cavalry commander with the 1st "Schlangenesser" regiment, this officer is incredibly familiar what exists of breakthrough tactics in this day and age on the open plains of the West Irromedes, as well as the state of the cavalry branch.
[X] Terier Meklan: An engineer from Skoda's small tractor production operation, which traces back to the armor production facility. He's looking for a name for himself.
[X] Abbot Potsdaman: A young representative from the Ghermain Brothers Automotive with revolutionary new plans for a flexible drive system.
[X] Renne Jung: A junior member of Commorate Casting Corporation sent to help tailor whatever they build to your requests.
 
[X] Hauptmann Erich Folgers: A young and somewhat distinguished armor company commander, Erich was involved in the retaking of Marienburg and the Battle of Oron, as well as leading a command tank in the Battle of the Kongo.
[X] Oberstlieutenant Conrad Fenrus: The cavalry commander with the 1st "Schlangenesser" regiment, this officer is incredibly familiar what exists of breakthrough tactics in this day and age on the open plains of the West Irromedes, as well as the state of the cavalry branch.
[X] Terier Meklan: An engineer from Skoda's small tractor production operation, which traces back to the armor production facility. He's looking for a name for himself.
[X] Abbot Potsdaman: A young representative from the Ghermain Brothers Automotive with revolutionary new plans for a flexible drive system.
[X] Renne Jung: A junior member of Commorate Casting Corporation sent to help tailor whatever they build to your requests.
 
[X] Hauptmann Erich Folgers: A young and somewhat distinguished armor company commander, Erich was involved in the retaking of Marienburg and the Battle of Oron, as well as leading a command tank in the Battle of the Kongo.
[X] Oberstlieutenant Conrad Fenrus: The cavalry commander with the 1st "Schlangenesser" regiment, this officer is incredibly familiar what exists of breakthrough tactics in this day and age on the open plains of the West Irromedes, as well as the state of the cavalry branch.
[X] Terier Meklan: An engineer from Skoda's small tractor production operation, which traces back to the armor production facility. He's looking for a name for himself.
[X] Abbot Potsdaman: A young representative from the Ghermain Brothers Automotive with revolutionary new plans for a flexible drive system.
[X] Renne Jung: A junior member of Commorate Casting Corporation sent to help tailor whatever they build to your requests.
 
X] Hauptmann Erich Folgers: A young and somewhat distinguished armor company commander, Erich was involved in the retaking of Marienburg and the Battle of Oron, as well as leading a command tank in the Battle of the Kongo.
[X] Oberstlieutenant Conrad Fenrus: The cavalry commander with the 1st "Schlangenesser" regiment, this officer is incredibly familiar what exists of breakthrough tactics in this day and age on the open plains of the West Irromedes, as well as the state of the cavalry branch.
[X] Terier Meklan: An engineer from Skoda's small tractor production operation, which traces back to the armor production facility. He's looking for a name for himself.
[X] Abbot Potsdaman: A young representative from the Ghermain Brothers Automotive with revolutionary new plans for a flexible drive system.
[X] Renne Jung: A junior member of Commorate Casting Corporation sent to help tailor whatever they build to your requests.
 
[X] Hauptmann Erich Folgers: A young and somewhat distinguished armor company commander, Erich was involved in the retaking of Marienburg and the Battle of Oron, as well as leading a command tank in the Battle of the Kongo.
[X] Oberstlieutenant Conrad Fenrus: The cavalry commander with the 1st "Schlangenesser" regiment, this officer is incredibly familiar what exists of breakthrough tactics in this day and age on the open plains of the West Irromedes, as well as the state of the cavalry branch.
[X] Terier Meklan: An engineer from Skoda's small tractor production operation, which traces back to the armor production facility. He's looking for a name for himself.
[X] Abbot Potsdaman: A young representative from the Ghermain Brothers Automotive with revolutionary new plans for a flexible drive system.
[X] Renne Jung: A junior member of Commorate Casting Corporation sent to help tailor whatever they build to your requests.
 
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[X] Hauptmann Erich Folgers: A young and somewhat distinguished armor company commander, Erich was involved in the retaking of Marienburg and the Battle of Oron, as well as leading a command tank in the Battle of the Kongo.
[X] Oberstlieutenant Conrad Fenrus: The cavalry commander with the 1st "Schlangenesser" regiment, this officer is incredibly familiar what exists of breakthrough tactics in this day and age on the open plains of the West Irromedes, as well as the state of the cavalry branch.
[X] Terier Meklan: An engineer from Skoda's small tractor production operation, which traces back to the armor production facility. He's looking for a name for himself.
[X] Abbot Potsdaman: A young representative from the Ghermain Brothers Automotive with revolutionary new plans for a flexible drive system.
[X] Renne Jung: A junior member of Commorate Casting Corporation sent to help tailor whatever they build to your requests.
 
@7734, do the industry giants like Skoda and CCC still hate us for telling them off in our whitepaper?

CCC isn't an industry giant (pre-war they made mostly pots and frying pans, then during the war they made small logistics sleds and after the war they got in the tank business) but yeah there's a little residual dislike. Thryssen still has a legendary hateboner for you, Skoda is ambient, Reindhart is mostly out of the military supply game, and a lot of the small boys are looking at this as their time to shine.

Wanderer, meanwhile, has named one of his kids after you because he's making three to five hundred W-5 tanks annually and is roughly hitting Scrouge MacDuck levels of money.
 
[X] Hauptmann Erich Folgers: A young and somewhat distinguished armor company commander, Erich was involved in the retaking of Marienburg and the Battle of Oron, as well as leading a command tank in the Battle of the Kongo.
[X] Oberstlieutenant Conrad Fenrus: The cavalry commander with the 1st "Schlangenesser" regiment, this officer is incredibly familiar what exists of breakthrough tactics in this day and age on the open plains of the West Irromedes, as well as the state of the cavalry branch.
[X] Edmund Volkstuppe: A young reserve kaptain who's spent most of his career in the artillery, Volkstruppe has an unnering knowledge about light artillery and what advancements have been going on in your old backyard.
[X] Terier Meklan: An engineer from Skoda's small tractor production operation, which traces back to the armor production facility. He's looking for a name for himself.
[X] Renne Jung: A junior member of Commorate Casting Corporation sent to help tailor whatever they build to your requests.
 
We are just inseparable from Erich Folgers, huh? I don't think we've literally ever not taken him when we've gotten the chance. At this rate our first son should be called Erich.

[X] Hauptmann Erich Folgers: A young and somewhat distinguished armor company commander, Erich was involved in the retaking of Marienburg and the Battle of Oron, as well as leading a command tank in the Battle of the Kongo.
It's tradition. Erich is one of us.
[X] Oberstlieutenant Conrad Fenrus: The cavalry commander with the 1st "Schlangenesser" regiment, this officer is incredibly familiar what exists of breakthrough tactics in this day and age on the open plains of the West Irromedes, as well as the state of the cavalry branch.
A shoe-in. You'd have to be an outright moron to not include him.
[X] Abbot Potsdaman: A young representative from the Ghermain Brothers Automotive with revolutionary new plans for a flexible drive system.
Flexible new drive system? Looks worth giving a go.
[X] Renne Jung: A junior member of Commorate Casting Corporation sent to help tailor whatever they build to your requests.
This is just pure connections. A line to a company to help fine-tune the design would be perfect.
[X] Movo Leib: A Jewish captain of the armored car cavalry sent by the Wersers in part of a bid to get you to adopt the Straßenpanzerwagen S861
And the one that's most likely to get us in some form of hot water. Armoured cars are an applicable field to what we're meant to be doing here, which will give us a balancer for Folgers' opinion.

[] Abbot Marchevion: A Bohemian national who emigrated after a scandal in the Werser crowns forced him from home, this man is rumored to be an intelligence expert and Lithuanian sympathizer.
Frankly, I don't see how an intelligence expert would be relevant here. Him being a foreign sympathiser just seems like a "controversy here" button in case something goes wrong.
[] Edmund Volkstuppe: A young reserve kaptain who's spent most of his career in the artillery, Volkstruppe has an unnering knowledge about light artillery and what advancements have been going on in your old backyard.
Artillery isn't all that relevant here, though I suppose it's possible to try and go for a cavalry self-propelled artillery.
[] Terier Meklan: An engineer from Skoda's small tractor production operation, which traces back to the armor production facility. He's looking for a name for himself.
Tractors, great. An engineer could certainly be helpful, but tractors and tanks are kind of different things. Sure it traces back to an armour production facility, but this guy seems young, he's likely got no armour experience.
 
We are just inseparable from Erich Folgers, huh? I don't think we've literally ever not taken him when we've gotten the chance. At this rate our first son should be called Erich.

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And the one that's most likely to get us in some form of hot water. Armoured cars are an applicable field to what we're meant to be doing here, which will give us a balancer for Folgers' opinion.

I mean, to be fair while you're the wizened old man of the Armor Branch, Folgers is the Irromic version of Young Patton- he's been in the armor branch since day 1 (literally) and has so far done some absolutely ludicrous things with what he's been given. Nobody expected breakthrough vehicles to work in an urban enviroment, he makes it work in an urban environment. Nobody thinks breakthrough vehicles can fight to take a bridgehead, he goes charging across the last bridge over the Oron and it works. Nobody thinks the new armor padagrim of battle-tanks and escort tanks will work worth a damn, he gets his company through the Kongolese lines like their AT defenses don't exist even though other companies are loosing their escort tanks faster than a sailor in Bangkok looses his pants.

As for armored cars, yeah they're an option (the cavalry already has some and a decent armored cars program seperate you) but the problem is cost. The chevaliers and hussars units in the war died pretty much wholesale, so what's left are mostly dragoons and uhlans. These are a lot more practicable fellows than the more traditional units that got mowed down, so they're not adverse to fighting on foot if they need to, but they want to retain their historic mobility, since that's normally what decides battles- without ending up an arm and a leg in debt, which is the end result of an overzealous armored car program.
 
They sound like dudes who'd love jeeps and Hiluxes, but alas those don't exist yet.
 
I through something more like IFV. Based off LT vz. 35, but made of cast and rolled pieces, bolted together, pieces being light enough that replacement of segments is feasible in field, and small enough for bulk transport in trucks. Mostly cast turret, turret ring as big as possible, so upgrade to some better armament is possible. Wide tracks, powertrain completly at the back, if possible; if not, cast front gearing cover like in M4.
 
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I through something more like IFV. Based off LT vz. 35, but made of cast and rolled pieces, bolted together, pieces being light enough that replacement of segments is feasible in field, and small enough for bulk transport in trucks. Mostly cast turret, turret ring as big as possible, so upgrade to some better armament is possible. Wide tracks, powertrain completly at the back, if possible; if not, cast front gearing cover like in M4.

I take opinions and suggestions from you guys, but as you may have critically noticed you don't dictate design to a high degree. The vehicle design you're positing is essentially a tank, and this isn't a tank competition. The Cavalry Branch is already buying a tank, after all.
Adhoc vote count started by 7734 on Nov 22, 2018 at 4:41 PM, finished with 21 posts and 10 votes.

  • [X] Oberstlieutenant Conrad Fenrus: The cavalry commander with the 1st "Schlangenesser" regiment, this officer is incredibly familiar what exists of breakthrough tactics in this day and age on the open plains of the West Irromedes, as well as the state of the cavalry branch.
    [X] Renne Jung: A junior member of Commorate Casting Corporation sent to help tailor whatever they build to your requests.
    [X] Terier Meklan: An engineer from Skoda's small tractor production operation, which traces back to the armor production facility. He's looking for a name for himself.
    [X] Abbot Potsdaman: A young representative from the Ghermain Brothers Automotive with revolutionary new plans for a flexible drive system.
    [X] Hauptmann Erich Folgers: A young and somewhat distinguished armor company commander, Erich was involved in the retaking of Marienburg and the Battle of Oron, as well as leading a command tank in the Battle of the Kongo.
    [X] Abbot Marchevion: A Bohemian national who emigrated after a scandal in the Werser crowns forced him from home, this man is rumored to be an intelligence expert and Lithuanian sympathizer.
    [X] Edmund Volkstuppe: A young reserve kaptain who's spent most of his career in the artillery, Volkstruppe has an unnering knowledge about light artillery and what advancements have been going on in your old backyard.
    [X] Movo Leib: A Jewish captain of the armored car cavalry sent by the Wersers in part of a bid to get you to adopt the Straßenpanzerwagen S861
 
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