Workable. I notice the personal vessel action is missing. Is it still available (and usable without the more specific research actions), and what is its DC now that we've completed the basic Voidspace research?
EDIT: Also, if we wanted to trade Favor for Alloys, would it be possible to earn the favor, make the trade and utilize the alloys all in one turn or no?
It's been subsumed into the Heart Forge Action due to the shuffling/compression of actions due to choosing the Megaproject in the previous vote. And yes, I count the trade deals with the Homeworld as a free action mostly because it feels somewhat unfair to force you to spend an action on sending a few emails back and forth in effect.
You do need an action and to pass the DC for the sending part to get the Favor but that has not changed.
As a discrete entity the Omnissiash does not exist. It does exist as a form of supra machine spirit. In a way one can think of the Omnissiah as being a machine spirit made by all machine spirits in the galaxy.
There is no connection between Emps or the Omnissiah. Technically the Omnissiah isnt even a real being, its more if you somehow got every machine spirit in the galaxy and merged them somehow you would have the Omnissiah but without doing that the Omnissiah does not exist in truth.
It's been subsumed into the Heart Forge Action due to the shuffling/compression of actions due to choosing the Megaproject in the previous vote. And yes, I count the trade deals with the Homeworld as a free action mostly because it feels somewhat unfair to force you to spend an action on sending a few emails back and forth in effect.
You do need an action and to pass the DC for the sending part to get the Favor but that has not changed.
Is it still possible to write in a standalone personal vessel action? Because, while Heart Forge is superior, it's also more expensive and harder, which puts a roadblock on my "crank out a PV and start building out-system infrastructure ASAP" plan.
Is it still possible to write in a standalone personal vessel action? Because, while Heart Forge is superior, it's also more expensive and harder, which puts a roadblock on my "crank out a PV and start building out-system infrastructure ASAP" plan.
[] Plan Draft
-[][Military] Comprehensive Subterranean and Void Fortifications (0/2,200) (Atraxus)(Erana)
-[][Diplomacy] Manticore Knights (60/60) (Atraxas)(Akiona)
-[][Intrigue] Acquire blackmail on Balkavus (?/?) (Atraxus)(Nalka)
-[][Stewardship] Sister Hospitaller Order (Atraxus)
-[][Stewardship] Begin extraplanetary resource exploitation (6) (Urma)
-[][Learning] Dig into planetary education system (25/25) (Atraxas)
-[][Learning] Study Warp Navigation (0/50) (Balkavus)
-[][Personal] Homeworld Mission: Noosphere (50/50)
-[][Personal] Homeworld Mission: Voidspace Info (0/0)
-[][Free] Contact Homeworld and attempt to purchase 600 Alloys (however much favor that would cost, up to our entire supply)
-[][Personal] Construct Personal Vessel (25/25)
-[][Wound] Personal Vessel second AP
-[][Wound] Construct Black Hole Awakening Core (100/100)
-[][Wound] Upgrade to Black Hole Awakening Chamber (500/500)
-[][Wound] Improve Relations with Moriya (50/50)
-[][Wound] Research DAoT Gellar (10/10)
-[][Wound] Research DAoT Gellar x2
-[][Wound] Research DAoT Gellar x3
Here's my preliminary plan. Don't really have ideas for Faith actions as of yet. Any issues in format or viability @Leon12431?
I am fine with such an omake, it would just be obviously non canon to the story. But the things are always good for a laugh, and would still get a reward.
First you can go with one of the Exotic mines for the mining one, there is no difference in output or upkeep beyond getting an exotic resource. Second the Black Hole needs to have the Void Forest cleaned up from it before you can build the black hole core. Third you cant do the core and the chamber in the same turn. Those actions are too complex to stack in that manner.
First you can go with one of the Exotic mines for the mining one, there is no difference in output or upkeep beyond getting an exotic resource. Second the Black Hole needs to have the Void Forest cleaned up from it before you can build the black hole core. Third you cant do the core and the chamber in the same turn. Those actions are too complex to stack in that manner.
1) neat. I'll take a look tomorrow
2) shitbiscuts. What kind of action would that be?
3) fie and damnation. Wish I'd known that in the initial planning stage…
1) neat. I'll take a look tomorrow
2) shitbiscuts. What kind of action would that be?
3) fie and damnation. Wish I'd known that in the initial planning stage…
2) You can do that in this turn, its just the Assault action.
3) Sorry, I probably should have been clearer on how it fell out in that situation. Hmm, put two actions on the core action and I will allow it as with the learning bonus it should pass the majority of times.
2) You can do that in this turn, its just the Assault action.
3) Sorry, I probably should have been clearer on how it fell out in that situation. Hmm, put two actions on the core action and I will allow it as with the learning bonus it should pass the majority of times.
So dedicating a total of three actions? 1 to build the Awakening Core, 1 to speed up the Awakening Core and 1 to upgrade it to Chamber? Also, last I asked these were DC 0 actions. Has that changed?
So dedicating a total of three actions? 1 to build the Awakening Core, 1 to speed up the Awakening Core and 1 to upgrade it to Chamber? Also, last I asked these were DC 0 actions. Has that changed?
I am noting that there is no need to assign an action to the Hospitallers unless you are expanding the complex. The current state is pretty much entirely just them arriving. You can assign a person to it to try to speed up their arrival, but it will auto complete no later than turn 6.
[X] Plan Fortress And Finance
-[X] Assault
--[X] Void Forest
---[X] Atraxas
---[X] Private Army
-[X] Improve The Private Army
--[X] Super Heavy Tanks, Armored Vehicles, Powered Armor, Aerospace Fighters, Orbital Insertion Pods, Bolters, Plasma, Power
--[X] Use AdMech Favor
-[X] Comprehensive Subterranean and Void Fortifications
--[X] Harkar
---[X] Araahal
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Urma
--[X] Nameria
--[X] Private Army
--[X] Private Army
--[X] Private Army
--[X] Private Army
--[X] Private Army
--[X] 2200 R
-[X] Create Diplomatic Corps
--[X] Akiona
--[X] 10 R
-[X] Contact the Pathfinders
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] 40 R
-[X] Contact Cadia directly
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] 50 R
-[X] Meet With Shezu
--[X] Atraxas
-[X] Establish Subsector Spies
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Nalka
--[X] 100 R
-[X] Militant Citadel
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Urma
--[X] 500 R
-[X] Dig into planetary education system
--[X] Balkavus
--[X] 25 R
-[X] The Calculation Heart
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] 1000 R
---[X] Use Exatari Alloys instead of R if enough are acquired to spare for this
-[X] Practice your race's religion
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] 100 R
-[X] Homeworld Mission: Data Retrieval (Void)
--[X] 1st Level
---[X] Atraxas
-[X] Homeworld Mission: Data retrieval (Noosphere)
--[X] 2nd level
---[X] Use AdMech Favor
-[X] Design augments of Advisors (Kara Nameria)
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] 100 R
-[X] Build a Personal Vessel
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] 25 R
-[X] Build an Awakening Core
--[X] Void Forest
---[X] Atraxas
---[X] Exatari Alloys
-[X] Trade Exatari Favor For Alloys
--[X] 10 R
I am noting that there is no need to assign an action to the Hospitallers unless you are expanding the complex. The current state is pretty much entirely just them arriving. You can assign a person to it to try to speed up their arrival, but it will auto complete no later than turn 6.
In this case not much, normally you do have to do it. This is a special case situation where your side of the project is done and the other side just has to take residence.
[X] Plan Gearing Up
-[X][Military] Assault the Void Forest (?/?) (Atraxus)
-[X][Military] Comprehensive Subterranean and Void Fortifications (Erana) (Nameria)
-[X][Free Action] Buy affordable materiel (40/40 AM favor)
-[X][Diplomacy] Contact Cadia (50/50) (Atraxas)(Akiona)
-[X][Intrigue] Acquire blackmail on Balkavus (?/?) (Atraxus)(Nalka)
-[X][Stewardship] Tarakan Doctors (10/10) (Atraxus)
-[X][Stewardship] Begin extraplanetary resource exploitation (21) (Urma)
-[X][Learning] Dig into planetary education system (25/25) (Balkavus)
-[X][Learning] Study Warp Navigation (50/50) (Atraxas)
-[X][Faith] Donate to the church
-[X][Personal] Homeworld Mission: Noosphere (50/50)
-[X][Personal] Homeworld Mission: Voidspace Info (0/0)
-[X][Free] Contact Homeworld and attempt to purchase 600 Alloys (however much favor that would cost, up to our entire supply)
-[X][Personal] Construct Personal Vessel (25/25)
-[X][Wound] Personal Vessel second AP
-[X][Wound] Construct Black Hole Awakening Core (100/100)
-[X][Wound] The Calculation Heart (100/100)
-[X][Wound] Improve Relations with Moriya (50/50)
-[X][Wound] Research DAoT Gellar (10/10)
-[X][Wound] Research DAoT Gellar x2
-[X][Wound] Meet With Shezu
Assaulting the Void Forrest is necessary to build our Alloy Infrastructure.
EDIT: Given the estimation of force parity and my hopeful assumption that the Forest doesn't have a skilled command structure, I'm fairly confident in setting Erana and Nameria on building fortifications at home. The Manticore Knights are a major political faction, and both their insights into Psyker shit and their Style will be useful to us beyond the "befriend local cops and lower suspicion" benefit.
EDIT: It has been pointed out that Cadia should probably get a reply about the Warning ASAP.
Balkavus is only barely better than our old ambassador. We need sufficient dirt to get him replaced, which shouldn't be too hard given nobody likes him.
Stewardship stuff is just nabbing some Exotics and working on healthcare that synergizes with Diploing the Knights.
For education, we need to Break ASAP so we can recover by the time the Eleventh Moment comes, and Balkavus seeing us flip our lid over educational standards probably won't be worse for us than his existing list of heretek accusations. Plus, the actual benefits of more educated population.
Warp Navigation is incredibly valuable, especially if the Calculation Heart kicks in this turn. Also, potential Library.
Donating to the church will let the orphanage cool down a bit, and we don't have other good Faith actions.
Finishing our missions is vital both to getting the seed Alloys to set up our infrastructure, and since we won't be contacting Homeworld until our Break settles.
We need Alloys to set up the Core and Heart, and we won't be getting any from Homeworld for a while after this.
A personal vessel gives us a lot of freedom, plus lets us cash in some or all of the void space mission favor despite not sending samples home.
See aforementioned issues of alloys and infrastructure.
Losing a turn of Chamber production in exchange for not taking an extra AP and finishing the Calculation Heart early (with all the knock on effects of that) is a worthwhile trade.
Yet another potential ally with a Style and possibly Library for us to learn.
We really need those regional Meta Shields ASAP.
@Leon12431, has this corrected the issues?
EDIT: funded warp nav since we might hit the halfway point if the Heart kicks in this turn.
[X] Plan Fortress And Finance
-[X] Improve The Private Army
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Superheavy Tanks, Armored Vehicles, Heavy Armor, Aerospace Fighters, Orbital Insertion Pods, Bolters, Plasma, Power
--[X] Use AdMech Favor
-[X] Comprehensive Subterranean and Void Fortifications
--[X] Harkar
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Urma
--[X] Nameria
--[X] Private Army
--[X] 2200 R
-[X] Create Diplomatic Corps
--[X] Akiona
--[X] 10 R
-[X] Contact the Pathfinders
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] 40 R
-[X] Contact the Azure Guardians
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] 50 R
-[X] Meet With Shezu
--[X] Atraxas
-[X] Establish Subsector Spies
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Nalka
--[X] 100 R
-[X] Reform the tax code
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Urma
--[X] 50 R
-[X] Dig into planetary education system
--[X] Balkavus
--[X] 25 R
-[X] The Calculation Heart
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] 1000 R
-[X] Practice Your Race's Religion
--[X] Atraxas
-[X] Homeworld Mission: Data Retrieval (Void)
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Use AdMech Favor
-[X] Design augments of Advisors (Kara Nameria)
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] 100 R
-[X] Heart Forge
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] 150 R
-[X] Study the Invoked Law
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] 10 R
I have a few issues with this plan. First, why are you improving the Private Army by so much? They're already top Imperial tier. Do we really need to spend the rather sizable amounts you're suggesting to improve them this much further?
Given what we have recently uncovered, I'd like to contact Cadia. They have asked us to contact them, and I suspect our warnings will bear more weight if we don't wait a full decade to respond.
I'd actually to talk about the army thing some more.
What's the benefit here? My understanding was that governors could basically already treat the PDF as a private army. What was the upside of an official private army?
Considering that's a sixth of our current stockpile and the core will offset the Alloy cost within a turn (and almost certainly it's own cost as well) I'm willing to make that trade, though I could be convinced.
I have a few issues with this plan. First, why are you improving the Private Army by so much? They're already top Imperial tier. Do we really need to spend the rather sizable amounts you're suggesting to improve them this much further?
Given what we have recently uncovered, I'd like to contact Cadia. They have asked us to contact them, and I suspect our warnings will bear more weight if we don't wait a full decade to respond.
I'd actually to talk about the army thing some more.
What's the benefit here? My understanding was that governors could basically already treat the PDF as a private army. What was the upside of an official private army?
Mostly that the difference between "basically a private army" and "actually a private army" is still significant in some scenarios. Notably, we can't send the PDF off world for things like, say, clear cutting the space trees clogging our black hole.
What's the benefit here? My understanding was that governors could basically already treat the PDF as a private army. What was the upside of an official private army?
Fortress Worlds are typically more nationalized than normal worlds, so the PDFs of such worlds tend to be commanded through a ton of intermediaries that the greater Imperium has in place. Your private army is an army that you command full stop off the surface of your world, while you share command on Shogi with Harkar. In short, the PDF of Shogi is earmarked for Imperial Guard duty and planetary defense by the greater Imperium.
As Froggy Ninja said, the private army is the main reason you can go and hunt down various threats in the sector on your own accord instead of waiting for another world to drag you into said battles.
