Star Wars An Officer and a Traitor (NO SV, you are an Imperial Officer and Traitor)

Revan, The Missing Piece of the Puzzle
Revan, The Missing Piece of the Puzzle
"How goes the look into the fall of the Jedi? I mean, one of the biggest gripes is the fact we simply have no idea why the Ruusan Reformation had parts specifically made to curtail Jedi influence. And then there is the mystery of why exactly they made the statement they did in the Baby Luddi case?"

"Interesting. Of all of the places to find a vital clue, I didn't expect to find it in the history of the Mandalorians."

"How so, they haven't done much since the destruction of Malachor."

"Have you heard of Revan?"

"No? Who is he and how is it relevant to the jedi?"

"He was the commander that broke the Mandalorians over Malachor. A figure largely struck from the record books, even the ones dating before the Empire. Known for his part in defeating Malik but little else, he was a figure that arguably shaped the galaxy, with ripples of his actions being felt even now, long after his death. He was the one who ended the Mandalorian wars, crushing the Mandalorians at Malachor V. He was the one, a few years later, who alongside Malik nearly brought the Republic to its knees, before disappearing and later being discovered as part of the Republic army, where he helped take down Malala, his former partner. Probably one of the most interesting and confusing figures in history ever, and yet, most of it is only known thanks to the Mandalorians preserving so much while people, most likely including the Jedi, were determined to forget so much of his story because he and his followers turned against the Republic. Revan is a mysterious figure, and yet, his story holds the key to multiple things. He and those who followed him for unclear reasons turned against the Republic after saving them, threatening their existence in a grand betrayal. And then Revan for not yet known reasons turned against the empire he created, and saved the Republic yet again."

"Why would he change sides so much?"

"That is the big question, it possibly even directly ties into what the Jedi are so afraid of, and may even be the same reason that led to the Republic deciding the influence of the Jedi needed to be curtailed. Such a colorful history doesn't come from nothing, and with how much is shrouded, it is hard to say what reasons are there. Perhaps the Jedi and Sith were closer than what some might say, and the Jedi were comfortable with, perhaps it is some part of what it meant to be a force user that helped shape both, perhaps the only difference is philosophy. It is impossible to know because there is hardly anything on the Jedi and even less on the Sith left. And Revan, uniquely, is the only person noted anywhere that we know of, that happened to be recognized as both a Sith Lord and a Jedi Master throughout his history, making him especially stand out, even among other records of fallen jedi. Perhaps, among the secrets hidden in the story of Revan, also explains why exactly the Sith and Jedi were so diametrically opposed from the first records on them?"

A/N: Revan is an INTERESTING character. And honestly, all of the big questions IC the analysts looking into the Jedi order, would see the story of Revan holds the secrets of the fall of the jedi, and possibly even a hidden side of the Sith. The pieces of the puzzle that are missing, preventing them from truly seeing and understanding the full extent of the fall of the Jedi.
Edit: fixed some spelling and grammar.
 
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the Rusaan Reformation
"Ruusan"

"How so, they hadn't
That comma should be a question mark, and "they hadn't" should be "They haven't".

the Mandaorians over Malachor.
"Mandalorians"

"Empire"

Known for his part in defeating Malek
"Malak"

crushing the Mandalorians at Malachor 5.
"Malachor V"

"who"

Malek nearly brought
"Malak"

the Republic to it's knees
"its"

where he helped take down Malek
"Malak"

turned against the republic.
"Republic"

his story lies the key to multiple things.
"is"

He and those whom followed
"who"

And while Revan for not yet known reasons turned against the empire he created, and saved the Republic yet again."
"then"

"the"

needed to be Curtailed.
"curtailed"

Perhapse, among the secrets hidden
"Perhaps"
 
Perhaps the Jedi and Sith were closer than what some might say
Bull, bull, bull, bull, bullllllssshhhiiiiiit.

Yeah, yeah, I know this is in-Character talk from People who don't know any better, but the fact that some Fans seem to genuinely believe this to be true INFURIATES me to this day.

And for that matter, the Fanon that the wider Galaxy is of this Opinion too pisses me off even more. The Sith were pretty fucking open about who they were and what their deal was, ESPECIALLY how they were not at all like their hated Enemies, the Jedi. They had multiple EMPIRES with wide-reaching influence on the Galaxy for Christs sake! There is no way in hell that all just got swept under the rug and was forgotten about!

The ONLY way this idea that most People in the Star Wars Galaxy think Jedi and Sith are basically the same is true would be if either A) they are all brainless idiots or B) nobody ever took a fucking History Class or read a History Book in their lifetime. And both is, frankly, ATROCIOUS and lazy Worldbuilding.
 
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The ONLY way this idea that most People in the Star Wars Galaxy think Jedi and Sith are basically the same is true would be if either A) they are all brainless idiots or B) nobody ever took a fucking History Class or read a History Book in their lifetime. And both is, frankly, ATROCIOUS and lazy Worldbuilding.
To be fair, difference in philosophy is VERRYstark. I mean, pretty much every war the Sith were the main aggressors, and the Jedi has a strong tendency to be very war adverse…

They both do very much tie their life to the force, in very different ways, but might be oddly recognizable to an outsider. I mean, the Sith tie themselves very tightly to the force to get the power to acquire freedom, while the Jedi build themselves around the force, seeking to to help people, and stave off the predations of the mind that emotions could easily become to force users. Since there is a reason that Kira is apperantly the only force user to survive getting cut off from the force.

There are some similarities that might be noted due to sheer lack of info, but with how much the philosophy informs how they operate and act, they are indeed very different. And of course, that particular omake is more talking, and really kinda throwing stuff out there, as I kinda figure it for now just gives a tantalizing glimpse at what critical info might have been lost. After all, they haven't found out why the fallen Jedi thing exists yet, especially in how two diametrically opposed organizations seem to have a tendency to have turncoats between them, with Revan being the most extreme example. I mean, the marked tendency would be a reason the idea of Dooku having become a Sith wouldn't be dissmissed out of hand IC.
 
"Kreia"?


How in the name of Lucas did you forget that? It's one of the biggest plot-points in the game!


It was the Exile.
Never played the game… did read and watch some stuff about it though.
Wasn't Kria a force user who went from Jedi archivist to Sith Lord to non-force sensitive old mysterious lady?
A Sith whom survived thanks to her apprentice knowing that the force server technique kills?
 
Never played the game… did read and watch some stuff about it though.
Wasn't Kria a force user who went from Jedi archivist to Sith Lord to non-force sensitive old mysterious lady?
A Sith whom survived thanks to her apprentice knowing that the force server technique kills?
Mostly, it's implied that she was Revan's Jedi master but she's more famously known for wanting to kill the Force itself.
 
Mostly, it's implied that she was Revan's Jedi master but she's more famously known for wanting to kill the Force itself.
Revan and the Exile Read her Holocron.

Revan: Yeah we're gonna burn all of her Documents.

Exile: And blow up her Holocron, Corellian Hells. How badly did she take the fact you chose the Force and your own morality over her teachings?

Revan: First off, My Morality is better than her's and second, at the end of the Day, Her Teachings were too fatalistic for someone who's devoting one's life to studying life...because that's what the force is.

Exile: Okay Master "I forced you to use the Mass Shadow Generator because I was too drunk and high after Killing the Mandalore."

Revan: I took an AX to the face! thank the Force I was wearing a mask. You try thinking straight after that.

Exile: I'm only doing this because I was tired of her Lecturing me and Don't want to hear her berate me centuries after I die in the Holocron vault.
 
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Yeah. Kria is VERY fatalistic. I mean, when she fell, she devoted all of her efforts to outright destroy The Force somehow. And then her apprentice basically went' I like my force powers thank you very much' and killed her. Except that is what he thought, as it turned out contrary to common knowledge among force users, it was possible to survive being cut off from the force, and Kria being herself no-selled the shock of suddenly being stripped of what she couldn't live without by sheer dint of welcoming being stripped of it, and the clarity of being free of the fog of the dark side. She mellowed out, but…

It's a BIT of a low bar
 
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Mandalore 2 (Turn 5)
Mandalore 2 (Turn 5):

[X] Captian Gilad Paelleon Rolled: D100 => 80

It was quiet on the Grave of Sorrows when you looked at the Mustached officer. There was so much going on in the man's head, you could almost read it, as you looked too much at the man's disappointment as he was speaking to the woman over the comms.

In many ways, you had expected much more, but he quickly noticed and he said. "I'm sorry. Give the children my love."

There was a silent nod before the hologram disappeared, and Gilad stood at attention. "My apologies sir. I had not known that you were going to be returning so quickly."

You shook your head and allowed yourself to laugh. "Under most circumstances, I would have to discipline you for that. Using secure military communications for private communication with a civilian would indicate you for a disciplinary hearing."

You then smiled. "One I am electing to ignore because everyone does it."

"Thank you." He responded as you stood next to him. "Captian, A question."

The officer stood at attention and you felt the rigidness of his posture from just seeing him look at you with fear. "What is it that Drives you? Why do you still fight for the Empire, when your oath was to the Republic?"

Gilad was quiet. "Is this an order?" He asked.

"No." You replied. "A Personal question, nothing more."

There was a moment where you could see just how his mind turned. "Perhaps I just wanted to continue with the work. I've been a navy man my entire life, always fighting the good fight, even when that fight sees me doing things I would never order."

He paused. "Maybe it is just because after everything that has happened… I just need to keep on holding onto the things that matter."

"Matter?" You pressed.

"I just want to see all the sacrifices that I have made in my life worth the pain and terror. That I have, and that I have inflicted." He replied.

You found yourself being quiet. But instead, you spoke. "Let me tell you a story Gilad. About a man whom I respected greatly once. He was a young subordinate of mine, named Trajan. Young one too, only 15 when he joined the navy, somehow getting through selection. He always talked about the corruption and politicians and the worsening degrading of the Constitution."

That earned a chuckle. "And you still have black hair?" He asked, joining you.

"Somehow, I think my wife helped with that matter." You paused. "I remembered asking him a simple question as to why he joined. Quite brilliant his answer was."

"I asked him, if the Republic is so corrupt, why fight for it?"

Your face became serious. "Because despite all of the evil it has, I've seen good people in it, trying to make it better. And if they can get help, that's what they will get. And that when Tyranny happens, there must always be the brave ones who fight against it, even if it means those oaths are broken."

You turned towards Gilad. "He died during the Second Battle of Geonosis. What he said always stuck with me, even now."

And you left him alone.

Reward: Gilad is willing to Rebel.

Other officers will shift towards rebellion.
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[X] General Ciaphas Hurbett:D100 => 82

The General was stressing out as she did not even notice you in the room. "You've really done it now Hurbett, telling the emperor that the whole operation was easy as blue milk. The bed of lies you have made will all come crashing down, and you will die, along with everyone else. The Emperor thinks you are the biggest problem solver in the Galaxy. Yet all you do is survive by luck alone!"

She then saw you and nearly squeaked. But she was silent. Petrified at you hearing her rambling.

"Fear, Terror. Weapons of control, but not loyalty." You mused as you smiled. "I do not need that here. It matters little how a job was done, as long as it is done properly. The emperor may have ordered a massacre or reprisals… But you did not carry them out."

"You still have your soul." You were reassuring her, and all you could do was give a smile. "You do not need to fear me, for I am not the Emperor. And I do not want wanton and needless violence."

The General merely saluted. "Thank you sir."

Reward: Your kindness, compassion, and understanding that not everything needs to be… a bloody mess has turned the General to your cause, as you remind her, in your warmth, that being in the Army was meant to help people in danger.

Not to destroy them, acting as nothing more than an instrument of terror.
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[X] Captian Thrawn: D100 => 96

"This empire… is doomed." There was almost a sad realization in his tone as he sat across from you in the empty conference room. It was strange seeing the Chiss seem so… deflated. Yet it also prompted your question.

"How so?"

"An unwieldy instrument that is now… wielded by a man who should be a brilliant politician who understands the needs of his people. One does not destroy a republic with such applause because he has a desire for nothing but destruction. Yet his appetites are so incredibly… clouded by his own success."

He pauses and looks at you. "He rapes words for their resources when the Republic would have safely ignored them because it would not be profitable. Yet he does so gleefully, destroying the lives of billions of sentients… spends trillions of credits on projects that glut and otherwise bloat an already overpaid and corrupt military apparatus. This force that he builds is not fit to secure an empire or to fight an insurgency, it is merely an instrument of terror that has no practical use."

"This empire is not the Republic where it can change, slow as it may be. It is inflexible. Rigid, and will self-destruct."

That caught you off guard. "And yet you still wish to fight for it?"

Thrawn was… conflicted. "Logically… Yes."

Reward: Thrawn begins to see that, in the end, the Republic dying has only led to a leviathan of evil taking its place.

One that is not so keen on securing itself and its future.
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Current Credit: 51250 Credits

Income:
500 Credits (Imperial Funding)

Expenditures:
1000 Fleet Maintenance
750 (Troop Payments)

Total Expenditures: 1750

You have 8 Actions

Diplomacy:

[]Finding A Mandalore: You need to see just who might be a Mandalore. Cost 100 Chance of Success: 85% Reward: You see who can be the next Mandalore.

[]And there is Hope in the Future: Sabine Wren, young Cadet. Brilliant mind. A terrified little girl. She's homesick, terrified, and as you learned, possibly a political hostage. Cost 100 Chance of Success: 85% Reward: you meet Sabine.

[]The Sad Sins of the Imperial Senate: You need to know just how many allies you have in the Senate now… Maybe you will have enough to do wonders. Cost 100 Chance of Success: 65% Reward: Time to find out who your friends really are.

Martial:

[]Getting Organized: You are in dire need to organize the Fleet into a matter you can control… especially with all the new support ships. Chance of Success: 100% Reward: you organize the fleet again, to make it run better.

[]The ISD's Flaws: You need to know just how badly you are in the red by the ISD's situation, and supply consumption. Cost 100 Chance of Success: 100% Reward: You learn how to make the ship better with limited supplies, and limited engineers.

[]A Terror or Terrorist: You want Answers from Gar Saxon… what is it he finds so disturbing that he is acting as a brutalist to his own people. Cost 100 Chance of Success: 100% Reward: YOu find out what Gar is hiding from you. What he is afraid of?

[]Request Additional Ships: You need more Ships Cost 100 Chance of Success: Various Reward: You get more ships under your command.

[]Request Additional Ground Units: You need More Men. Cost 100 Chance of Success: Various. Reward: You get more men under your command,

[]The Navy Remembers: You still have friends in the Navy. Time to call in some old favors, and see if they can't help you one more time? Cost: 300 Chance of Success: 50% Reward: You call in old friends, and learn just how many friends you have left.

Stewardship:

[]The Projects of the Empire: You need to find out just what resources are being funded to the many projects across the Empire. Thankfully, the Oversight committee is willing to help Cost 100 Credits: Chance of Success: ??? Reward: You find out about numerous projects across the Empire.

[]Request more Funds (Imperial): You are going to make a lot of people angry about this, but now was not the time. You needed money. Cost 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You get more money. From The Empire.

Intrigue:

[]And the Alliance is Formed: Bail Organa is being hunted. Time to make sure he survives… and find out what has just happened. Cost 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: Rebel Inc, meet the Rebel Alliance.

[]How to Make Things, Disappear: You need to start planning for money and supplies to disappear here. Cost 200 Chance of success: 90% Reward: So, you play a little game. Involving imperial tax law. So predictable.

[]The New Breed: You want to see the next generation of Imperial officers. You want to see just how good they are. Cost 200 Chance of success: 90% Reward: You meet the young ones and see just how they are taking this.

Learning Actions:

[]Those That Reach for Eternity: You need to look into your fighter Corps and Garrison. Perhaps that will make you wonder why the TIE Program is suffering from the doctrine that is now sweeping the Imperial Navy. Cost 0 Credits: Chance of Success: 70% Reward: You see your pilots.

[]Finding the Symbol(The Helmet of Mandalore): You are going to find the Helmet of the Mandalore. Cost 0 Credits: Chance of Success: ???% Reward: You find the Helmet

[]Finding the Symbol (The Darksaber): Time to find out where this Darksaber is? Cost 0 Credits: Chance of Success: ???% Reward: You retrieve the Darksaber.

Rebel Actions: Due to Having an Agent (Han Solo) as your man on the Ground, your chance of success will increase. (If you take any of these Actions, you will have an imperial detection roll. If you are detected, they will roll to find your agent, or worse, find a connection. Failing three times will lead to… bad things happening to you.)

[]Fulcrum: You have been contacted by Rebel Spynetwork, Fulcrum. Seems they trust you now. Cost: 500 Chance of success: 80%/??? Reward: You meet Fulcrum

[]The Rebel Palpatine: Luthen Rael, a name you have only heard once. But they are all whispered. And some say he is a part of some rebel cell that has influence all over the Galaxy. Cost 300 Chance of Success: 70%. Reward: You meet the man who many call The great master of the Rebellion.

[]The Walking Carpet: So... Wookies? He decided to waste valuable... Resources and money, on rescuing Wookies? Can't really fault him for it... Who is that? Cost: 300 Chance of Success: 70% Reward: You meet Solo's new Crew member.

[]Finding Rebels (The Core): You need to learn about the Rebels here. And to organize them. Cost: 500 Chance of Success: 40% Reward: You meet the Rebels, and learn of their forces.

[]Finding Rebels (Mid Rim): You need to learn about the Rebels here. And to organize them. Cost: 500 Chance of Success: 40% Reward: You meet the Rebels, and learn of their forces.

[]Finding Rebels (Outer Rim): You need to learn about the Rebels here. And to organize them. Cost: 500 Chance of Success: 40% Reward: You meet the Rebels, and learn of their forces.

AN: Oh boy, things are going to get good!

Plan format please
 
[X] Plan: Operational Tempo for Nerds
-[X]Finding A Mandalore: You need to see just who might be a Mandalore. Cost 100 Chance of Success: 85% Reward: You see who can be the next Mandalore.
-[X]Getting Organized: You are in dire need to organize the Fleet into a matter you can control… especially with all the new support ships. Chance of Success: 100% Reward: you organize the fleet again, to make it run better.
-[X]The ISD's Flaws: You need to know just how badly you are in the red by the ISD's situation, and supply consumption. Cost 100 Chance of Success: 100% Reward: You learn how to make the ship better with limited supplies, and limited engineers.
-[X]Request Additional Ships: You need more Ships Cost 100 Chance of Success: Various Reward: You get more ships under your command.
-[X]Request more Funds (Imperial): You are going to make a lot of people angry about this, but now was not the time. You needed money. Cost 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You get more money. From The Empire.
-[X]And the Alliance is Formed: Bail Organa is being hunted. Time to make sure he survives… and find out what has just happened. Cost 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: Rebel Inc, meet the Rebel Alliance.
-[X]Those That Reach for Eternity: You need to look into your fighter Corps and Garrison. Perhaps that will make you wonder why the TIE Program is suffering from the doctrine that is now sweeping the Imperial Navy. Cost 0 Credits: Chance of Success: 70% Reward: You see your pilots.
-[X]Finding the Symbol(The Helmet of Mandalore): You are going to find the Helmet of the Mandalore. Cost 0 Credits: Chance of Success: ???% Reward: You find the Helmet

Okay so to explain my reasoning here, both Mandalore and the helmet actions to get someone to lead our new crusaders, getting organized and requisitioning ships to beef our brand new fleet and ensure that no one gets any ideas, more funds to offset expenditures for future turns, and meeting organa and the fighter corp to both get a foot in the door with our resident "loyal opposition" and the Ace combat expy's.
 
Current Credit: 51250 Credits
When did we get all these Credits?

[X] Plan For The Rebellion
-[X]Finding A Mandalore: You need to see just who might be a Mandalore. Cost 100 Chance of Success: 85% Reward: You see who can be the next Mandalore.
-[X]And there is Hope in the Future: Sabine Wren, young Cadet. Brilliant mind. A terrified little girl. She's homesick, terrified, and as you learned, possibly a political hostage. Cost 100 Chance of Success: 85% Reward: you meet Sabine.
-[X]Getting Organized: You are in dire need to organize the Fleet into a matter you can control… especially with all the new support ships. Chance of Success: 100% Reward: you organize the fleet again, to make it run better.
-[X]The Navy Remembers: You still have friends in the Navy. Time to call in some old favors, and see if they can't help you one more time? Cost: 300 Chance of Success: 50% Reward: You call in old friends, and learn just how many friends you have left.
-[X]And the Alliance is Formed: Bail Organa is being hunted. Time to make sure he survives… and find out what has just happened. Cost 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: Rebel Inc, meet the Rebel Alliance.
-[X]Finding the Symbol(The Helmet of Mandalore): You are going to find the Helmet of the Mandalore. Cost 0 Credits: Chance of Success: ???% Reward: You find the Helmet
-[X]Finding the Symbol (The Darksaber): Time to find out where this Darksaber is? Cost 0 Credits: Chance of Success: ???% Reward: You retrieve the Darksaber.
-[X]Fulcrum: You have been contacted by Rebel Spynetwork, Fulcrum. Seems they trust you now. Cost: 500 Chance of success: 80%/??? Reward: You meet Fulcrum
-[X]The Walking Carpet: So... Wookies? He decided to waste valuable... Resources and money, on rescuing Wookies? Can't really fault him for it... Who is that? Cost: 300 Chance of Success: 70% Reward: You meet Solo's new Crew member.

Reasoning:

Finding A Mandalore and Finding the Symbol: These should get the Mandalorians organized and ready to fight when the time comes, and it is coming soon, so we should get these done ASAP.

Hope in the Future: Hi, Sabine! Care to help us find someone and/or something for your people to rally around?

Getting Organized: We have a lot of ships, and we need to figure out how to use them before the war starts.

Navy Remembers: Let's see if we can get some more people to jump ship, shall we?

Alliance is Formed and Fulcrum: Time to officially (if covertly) join the Rebellion.

The Walking Carpet: Hi, Chewie!
 
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