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Space Ninja Summer Camp ( Warframe/Worm )

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Sleethr said:
Comparing Sophia's current scan to her previous, it looked almost' identical.
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There's an apostrophe that snuck in there.

I'm really happy to see this update. It's just utterly adorable, and I'm really enjoying the confusion she must be causing everyone. I hope Amy gets herself together soon, though, but it's hard to get through that much denial. :(
Maybe she can mention the hospital to her mom and she'd go over there and check if they're actually charging? On the other hand, she may know about it and be fine, so long as Amy isn't getting paid...
 
VirtualFox said:
Her personal timeline has her in Bet about the time Tenno rediscover Harrow as a frame if I remember right.
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It might be, but Deimos is still Mars moon, it is not like Lua, that was hidden in the void.

Also, @Sleethr , thank you; I started to lose interest about warframe around Deimos release, and not even the Necramech and the Entrati were enough to turn it around.
I read your chapter, and then started playing again
 
LostArchivist said:
There's an apostrophe that snuck in there.
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Oops. Betaing as a distraction from a headache is a bad idea...

SitzKrieg said:
Step one, get limbo prime with max damage multipliers and max bubble to freeze Leviathan/behemoth/Ziz in the rift. Step two get Wisp to make Leviathan/behemoth/Ziz taste the sun

considering if I remember correctly one of wisps abilities literally opens a portal to the surface of the sun to use as a laser.
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That is, indeed, the case:
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Sol Gate
Open a portal to the sun to irradiate enemies with a devastating beam of pure solar plasma. Hold fire to double Damage at the cost of increased energy consumption. For the duration of an attack enemies damaged by Sol Gate are increasingly more vulnerable to it.
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SitzKrieg said:
Step one, get limbo prime with max damage multipliers and max bubble to freeze Leviathan/behemoth/Ziz in the rift.
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Khonsu is literally Limbo as an Endbringer, so his siblings must have some defense. Moreover, big bosses in Warframe are immune.

No one single Frame is probably capable of killing Endbringers, Though if I had to throw in my theorycrafting idea, I'd say a few frames buffing a Chroma Prime (elemental dragon, capable of ludicrous damage) - Holding a single-shot sniper rifle, with the bullet blessed by Flechette's Sting.


And Taylor: New England doesn't have a crater lake yet. (Lake Leviathan)

Is... is Zoe Barnes surprised that her daughter is interested in boys and not, uh, Taylor?
 
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JoshuaSweetvale said:
Khonsu is literally Limbo as an Endbringer, so his siblings must have some defense. Moreover, big bosses in Warframe are immune.

No one single Frame is probably capable of killing Endbringers, Though if I had to throw in my theorycrafting idea, I'd say a few frames buffing a Chroma Prime (elemental dragon, capable of ludicrous damage) - Holding a single-shot sniper rifle, with the bullet blessed by Flechette's Sting.


And Taylor: New England doesn't have a crater lake yet. (Lake Leviathan)

Is... is Zoe Barnes surprised that her daughter is interested in boys and not, uh, Taylor?
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The rift is a complete out of context problem for entities and endbringers, as it is the space between the physical world and the void that Limbo frames can using mods actively manipulate. Also as to the boss restriction The bubble works On bosses I think? It's been a while. Either way I'd wave that as a game mechanic as the rift works on much larger enemies than some bosses are so It couldnt be a size restriction.
 
When they get back to Earth and everyone calls bullshit, they should hand over sample containers full of Martian soil and rock to shut everyone up. Even in a world with Simurgh in orbit, universities would be clamoring for a chance to study even a spoonfull.

Or fly the Liset over to MIT and literally unload one or both of the Viking landers in the parking lot.

As an aside, with her ability to go back and forth around the Solar System at will, everything can Taylor has or could do in the future is forgiven. Between the forges on her Orbiter and her resource drones, she can produce whole lots of Origin System-grade tech, or at least the stuff that doesn't need esoteric components like nano spores and such. Hell, if Taylor handed over a small supply of Plastids and Polymer Bundles over to Dragon for study, she could advance Earth Bets material sciences by a rather significant amount pretty quickly.
 
SanguisAnima said:
Taylor mentioned early on that she had a Kavat named Tybalt.

I now imagine Tybalt "claiming" SS. For what, I leave it to your discretion. Or imagination.
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Sadly, Taylor has made mention that her space cat from hell is in stasis. Nothing says she can't take it out, though.

Imagine the look on Piggot's face upon finding out that Taylor can literally breed a few new species on her ship, the kleptomanic invisible murder kitten just being one.

You know Visa would want one.

EDIT: Come to think of it, the stasis system used on Kubrows, Chargers, and Space Cats From Hell could be a godsend if it can be used on people.
 
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Highlord said:
You know Visa would want one.
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. . . For everything else, there's Mastercard?

(I know you were referring to Vista, but my brain immediately latched onto "Visa" XD)

Highlord said:
Sadly, Taylor has made mention that her space cat from hell is in stasis. Nothing says she can't take it out, though.
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Exactly.

Also, Cataclysm. (Props if you get the reference)

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Imagine the look on Piggot's face upon finding out that Taylor can literally breed a few new species on her ship, the kleptomanic invisible murder kitten just being one.
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. . . Bets on Piggot thinking "Nilbog" the moment she hears the word "breeding"?
 
Fucking Saryn is already optimized to eradicate entire population centers with a flick of the wrist, assuming you mod for range. Which everyone does.

Fucking 150 meter range on initial infection. Considering how squishy Earth Bet is, the target would instantly explode and causes more spores to manifest on targets within 60 meters of Paitent Zero. Repeat ad nauseum. 1 Spore would probably cause Ellisburg to implode within minutes, maybe even seconds.
 
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Nearly max range, low duration, anything over 100 ability strength.

One cast of Spore, nearly immediately followed by Miasma.

Four ticks in two seconds. Couple with medium energy restores or just the Zenurik energy dash. Even an un-forma'ed, max-ranked, goldtatoed Saryn will wipe Ellisburg nearly at the snap of a finger.

While we're at it, let's take a look at the different possible ways to nuke Nilbog's little kingdom, using available Warframe tech:

Ash: just spam Shuriken, with the Seeking Shuriken augment
Atlas: can't think of any way he can quickly clear large AOEs
Banshee: Sound Quake. With the Resonating Quake augment.
Baruuk: unless he had a way to group or clump enemies together, his Serene Storm won't be as effective. Also, it requires him to have his Restraint eroded first.
Chroma: Effigy + Spectral Scream is the only option I'm aware of.
Ember: she'd be the easiest, because of Fireblast + Inferno. However, IIRC Nilbog has some contingencies against fire, so... *le shrug*
Equinox: Day Form. Maim. EZPZ. Even at low ability strength/high to max range, she'll still get the job done.
Excalibur: Exalted Blade, with the Chromatic Blade augment. Go blender.
Frost: either (a) go for max range and high ability strength, then cast Snow Globe and somehow pull enemies inside it before proccing Viral then smack em around, or (b) build for Avalanche spam
Gara: laziest method I'm aware of would be to go for max range and ability strength, then cast her Mass Vitrify. Allow glass to leach a bit of extra health (say, four seconds), then shatter with her 1. This should deal with any unit outside of the glass wall.
Garuda: similar build to Saryn. It would be a good idea to catch at least one enemy unit with Dread Mirror for some damage mitigation, from at least one direction. Charge Seeking Talons to max, deploy, watch the carnage as any and all enemies caught begin to bleed out.
Gauss: three words: Thermal. Sunder. Build.
Grendel: he faces the same issues as Baruuk.
Harrow: . . . Naaaah, the guy's kit doesn't seem to lend well to radial AOEs. Maybe for linear ones.
Hildryn: the newb combo should be enough: Pillage, then Aegis Storm.
Hydroid: max range, high duration hentai swarm -- I mean, Tentacle Swarm. Maybe cast Undertow before the tentacles. Maybe.
Inaros: lazy method: cast Sandstorm.
Ivara: like Harrow, she doesn't really work with radial AOE clearing. Sadly.
Khora: max range, high duration Strangledome. And possibly hit Entangle on any mook that gets dragged into the dome, letting it snag more outliers in the process. Then whack the dome repeatedly with her Whipclaw.
Limbo: max range, high duration. Cast Cataclysm then Stasis (cast order at player's discretion). Detonate when desired, or just let it run out on its own.
Loki: max range, hit Radial Disarm with Irradiating Disarm augment. Go stealth. Troll Nilbog.
Mag: high/max range, decent duration. Equip Lanka (or Zenith; mod for raw damage/crit, both weapons don't need punch through mods). Cast Magnetize, fire into bubble, watch as victims become sieves.
Mesa: Peacemaker. Nuff said.
Mirage: get a Kuva Ogris or Kuva Bramma. Mod for high duration and ability strength. Get the Hall of Malevolence augment. Cast her Hall of Mirrors. Go to town on Nilbog's arse.
Nekros: . . . Can't think how his kit could be adapted for nuking, sorry...
Nezha: his first two skills (Firewalker and Burning Chakram) might be ill suited against Nilbog, which leaves his Divine Spears. Probably mod for max range and high ability strength.
Nidus: . . . Do I still need to?
Nova: Speedva setup. Cast Molecular Prime. Get some range upwards (probably via Wormhole), fire Antimatter Drop (with Antimatter Absorb augment) downward. Aim glide and watch the fireworks.
Nyx: newb combo, Chaos + Absorb should work just fine.
Oberon: Hallowed Ground + Reckoning should do the trick. High ability strength and range (at least 240 for a full circle).
Octavia: laziest combo ever: mod for high duration and range. Cast Mallet. Cast Metronome. Cast AMP. Spam Ctrl until stealthed. Watch.
Protea: mod for max duration, high range, decent ability strength. Cast Blaze Artillery, maybe a few Shrapnel Vortexes if needed.
Revenant: Mesmer Skin. Danse Macabre. Nuff said.
Rhino: . . . Must I?
Saryn: already given as an example
Titania: her kit doesn't have any AOE nuke possible abilities, AFAIK...
Trinity: her only nuke possible ability that I'm aware of would be her Link, plus the Abating Link augment; however, near as I can remember, it's capped at a max of three enemies per cast... I might be wrong though.
Valkyr: Paralysis (plus the Prolonged Paralysis augment) is the only AOE damage skill that Valkyr has, AFAIK...
Vauban: there's several options open. Flechette Orb? Tether Coil? Tesla Nervos? Bastille? Your call.
Volt: Discharge spam. EZPZ.
Wisp: Breach Surge or Sol Gate, either option works.
Wukong: Defy. Nuff said.
Xaku: haven't gotten him yet so IDK.
Zephyr: Tornadoes.

EDIT:
Mere hours after the initial post, DistantObserver shared his deal with the devil for Harrow, essentially fixing the radial AOE issue.
 
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You know, I just came back to SV a few days ago, wondering if this story had updated. Sadly enough, it had not. But then, not two days later.. WHAM! New chapter!

So now my question is.... *narrows eyes* Are you spying on me? And if so, how long should I ignore SV before returning to elicit another chapter??
 
SanguisAnima said:
Nearly max range, low duration, anything over 100 ability strength.

One cast of Spore, nearly immediately followed by Miasma.

Four ticks in two seconds. Couple with medium energy restores or just the Zenurik energy dash. Even an un-forma'ed, max-ranked, goldtatoed Saryn will wipe Ellisburg nearly at the snap of a finger.

While we're at it, let's take a look at the different possible ways to nuke Nilbog's little kingdom, using available Warframe tech:

Ash: just spam Shuriken, with the Seeking Shuriken augment
Atlas: can't think of any way he can quickly clear large AOEs
Banshee: Sound Quake. With the Resonating Quake augment.
Baruuk: unless he had a way to group or clump enemies together, his Serene Storm won't be as effective. Also, it requires him to have his Restraint eroded first.
Chroma: Effigy + Spectral Scream is the only option I'm aware of.
Ember: she'd be the easiest, because of Fireblast + Inferno. However, IIRC Nilbog has some contingencies against fire, so... *le shrug*
Equinox: Day Form. Maim. EZPZ. Even at low ability strength/high to max range, she'll still get the job done.
Excalibur: Exalted Blade, with the Chromatic Blade augment. Go blender.
Frost: either (a) go for max range and high ability strength, then cast Snow Globe and somehow pull enemies inside it before proccing Viral then smack em around, or (b) build for Avalanche spam
Gara: laziest method I'm aware of would be to go for max range and ability strength, then cast her Mass Vitrify. Allow glass to leach a bit of extra health (say, four seconds), then shatter with her 1. This should deal with any unit outside of the glass wall.
Garuda: similar build to Saryn. It would be a good idea to catch at least one enemy unit with Dread Mirror for some damage mitigation, from at least one direction. Charge Seeking Talons to max, deploy, watch the carnage as any and all enemies caught begin to bleed out.
Gauss: three words: Thermal. Sunder. Build.
Grendel: he faces the same issues as Baruuk.
Harrow: . . . Naaaah, the guy's kit doesn't seem to lend well to radial AOEs. Maybe for linear ones.
Hildryn: the newb combo should be enough: Pillage, then Aegis Storm.
Hydroid: max range, high duration hentai swarm -- I mean, Tentacle Swarm. Maybe cast Undertow before the tentacles. Maybe.
Inaros: lazy method: cast Sandstorm.
Ivara: like Harrow, she doesn't really work with radial AOE clearing. Sadly.
Khora: max range, high duration Strangledome. And possibly hit Entangle on any mook that gets dragged into the dome, letting it snag more outliers in the process. Then whack the dome repeatedly with her Whipclaw.
Limbo: max range, high duration. Cast Cataclysm then Stasis (cast order at player's discretion). Detonate when desired, or just let it run out on its own.
Loki: max range, hit Radial Disarm with Irradiating Disarm augment. Go stealth. Troll Nilbog.
Mag: high/max range, decent duration. Equip Lanka (or Zenith; mod for raw damage/crit, both weapons don't need punch through mods). Cast Magnetize, fire into bubble, watch as victims become sieves.
Mesa: Peacemaker. Nuff said.
Mirage: get a Kuva Ogris or Kuva Bramma. Mod for high duration and ability strength. Get the Hall of Malevolence augment. Cast her Hall of Mirrors. Go to town on Nilbog's arse.
Nekros: . . . Can't think how his kit could be adapted for nuking, sorry...
Nezha: his first two skills (Firewalker and Burning Chakram) might be ill suited against Nilbog, which leaves his Divine Spears. Probably mod for max range and high ability strength.
Nidus: . . . Do I still need to?
Nova: Speedva setup. Cast Molecular Prime. Get some range upwards (probably via Wormhole), fire Antimatter Drop (with Antimatter Absorb augment) downward. Aim glide and watch the fireworks.
Nyx: newb combo, Chaos + Absorb should work just fine.
Oberon: Hallowed Ground + Reckoning should do the trick. High ability strength and range (at least 240 for a full circle).
Octavia: laziest combo ever: mod for high duration and range. Cast Mallet. Cast Metronome. Cast AMP. Spam Ctrl until stealthed. Watch.
Protea: mod for max duration, high range, decent ability strength. Cast Blaze Artillery, maybe a few Shrapnel Vortexes if needed.
Revenant: Mesmer Skin. Danse Macabre. Nuff said.
Rhino: . . . Must I?
Saryn: already given as an example
Titania: her kit doesn't have any AOE nuke possible abilities, AFAIK...
Trinity: her only nuke possible ability that I'm aware of would be her Link, plus the Abating Link augment; however, near as I can remember, it's capped at a max of three enemies per cast... I might be wrong though.
Valkyr: Paralysis (plus the Prolonged Paralysis augment) is the only AOE damage skill that Valkyr has, AFAIK...
Vauban: there's several options open. Flechette Orb? Tether Coil? Tesla Nervos? Bastille? Your call.
Volt: Discharge spam. EZPZ.
Wisp: Breach Surge or Sol Gate, either option works.
Wukong: Defy. Nuff said.
Xaku: haven't gotten him yet so IDK.
Zephyr: Tornadoes.
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Saryn is absolutely perfect for taking out Nilbog, she was created to annihilate the Infested and retake Earth, after all. Nilbog would be a pathetic annoyance on a morning stroll. Saryn is so good at what she does that Taylor should probably never bring her out, unless she's going to stealth kill Nilbog. Because given Saryn's capabilities, Taylor would almost immdiately be branded an Endbringer-level threat and engaged by the Triumvirate and the full parahuman power of the PRT.

I actually warned Sleethr about that once.
 
Highlord said:
I actually warned Sleethr about that once.
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Saryn lacks the ability for her powers to propagate on their own, provided they lack a transmission vector, or remain unattended for long periods of time.
She seems like she'd qualify, on paper, but her spores can be countered easily by any medical parahuman. Villain yes, S-rank no.
Then again she could just not use the spores, or deploy enough of them that Nilbog's pupils can't run fast enough to the containment's edge, and nobody would ever know anything.
 
Looking at Spores' wiki page, Spores spread when:
  • Something hits the Spores, which causes them to pop
  • Spores' original target is killed
  • Infected targets (that aren't the original) will spread their Spores if they're killed by players or by Molt's explosion
  • Saryn hitting an infected target with anything while Toxic Lash is on
  • Anything kills an infected target while it's stunned by Miasma
Notably, Spores don't spread if their own DoT kills their target.
But, either way, this means that Spores do have the potential to spread uncontrollably.
 
The problem with Nilbog isn't killing his guys.
It's the MAD virus bombs.

Just to pep up this post a bit: Any frames come to mind that can ruin Cauldron's day? Ivara and other stealth frames can still be spotted by the Custodian in Cauldron HQ (she basically is Cauldron HQ,) but she might be at the right place at the right time on Bet to spot a Door, with the Void making Taylor scry-proof.

And Nova might be able to pry a closed/closing Door back open, and then do her 'everything is fissile material now' shtick on their HQ.
 
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JoshuaSweetvale said:
Any frames come to mind that can ruin Cauldron's day?
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Nova indeed is one, that Wormhole > Molecular Prime combo is sure to eff things up in the Cooking Pot (I still snicker whenever I think of Cauldron as that, thanks to a certain Fae Knight)
Octavia may have a chance, as her Mallet effectively masters all enemy units to attack it, only to return part/all of (depending on ability strength) damage received.
Wukong's Cloudwalker is undetectable by any type of alarm method in the Origin System, so I think he also has a chance to sneak inside and wreak merry havoc. Plus his Celestial Twin means double the trouble, double the fun.

Thinking about it, nearly every frame has that chance to turn Cauldron's day upside down.
 
JoshuaSweetvale said:
The problem with Nilbog isn't killing his guys.
It's the MAD virus bombs.

Just to pep up this post a bit: Any frames come to mind that can ruin Cauldron's day? Ivara and other stealth frames can still be spotted by the Custodian in Cauldron HQ (she basically is Cauldron HQ,) but she might be at the right place at the right time on Bet to spot a Door, with the Void making Taylor scry-proof.

And Nova might be able to pry a closed/closing Door back open, and then do her 'everything is fissile material now' shtick on their HQ.
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Honestly Cauldron would be incredibly cautious about Taylor if the Void is completely throwing PtV off because that means that she's a security hazard. The Void shouldn't (and won't if the author remembers anything about how PtV works) make her completely invisible to PtV. At worst she'll be a unpredictable agent in the short term and therefore require caution and generally reduce the abilities of PtV in her general area, this results in paths in generally needing to be adaptable to changing circumstances thus reducing global capabilities. At best she's a long term issue that has to have plans altered to keep them roughly on track.

If Cauldron gets a better idea of what's going on they would be incredibly interested in getting a cache of supplies, equipment and people in there. That will accomplish their primary goal of long term survival of humanity allowing them to reevaluate their other plans with the goal of saving the most people rather than simply praying they can save anyone at all. How changed those plans would be would depend on a lot of factors but it's not like Cauldron has any reason to blindly continue with their current plan if alternatives become available that actually look viable rather than pointless rolls of the dice that could get everyone killed.
 
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