Solar Auxilia Officer Quest. A 30k Early Great Crusade quest.

What the fuck.

Is this meant to be some kind of barb against me for me saying you can't recruit xenos troops or establish protectorates. o_O I think so, going by your previous questions.
Going by the posts afterwards it looks a lot like they're being serious about this. And I doubt there's going to be any genocide mechanic in here b/c I doubt The Mods will appreciate having something like that here and any horrible stuff like that is just gonna be in the background.
 
Sorry if am an ass I dind't mean to be rude . I apoligise. But i mean if not the troops how Is organizing the genocide and then doing it

I will go and asume, for the sake of explanation of why this feel...weird.

Sure bad thing happen, yes the setting is very....light on genocide and very casual with it but your post is getting...weirdly specific about it, you are very no much helping your case....at all.
 
Pretty sure this guy is being a troll or trying to start something to get the thread closed because he is mad that we aren't doing things his way.

So not worth interacting with.
 
*ignore the weirdo trying to start something*

In space they are more akin to Chinese dragons flying around in anti-grav powered armour, with all the manouverability that implies. They get big enough some of them are able to function as Corvettes.

Very cool, remind of enemies/bosses that can be fought in shoot-em ups.

Thinking about it...

How good are their anti-boarding countermeasures?
 
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@Mayto Im not Here to turn on the debate Is imperium evil or good I dont care for that kinda of thinking. What I want to know Is how are genocide going to be made. I mean many xeno worlds are going to have over billions of men,women,children and it a pity that logistics of genocides aren't at least established. I mean how Will those species ne exsterminated, i mean they won't poof out of exsistance when we defeat their armies. They Will still be there and someone Will have to kill them to the last men women and child. So as troops on the ground shouldn't we be ones tasked with it.
 
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I mean going by their description their ships are very large, on account of their large size of the occupants, but at the same time they are fewer in number. So I imagine there will be less living defenders and more automated defenses if they prioritize anti-boarding countermeasures.
On the other hand, it only takes 1-2 dragons to get a reasonably sized invasion force to fuck off
 
How good are their anti-boarding countermeasures?
The Rykogene ships are laid out somewhat awkwardly by human standards, because they can move on their own through tubes between sections. So imagine their ships, unarmoured, to look a lot like a series of spheres connected by tubes, which is sealed inside a large armoured frame of honeycombed armour.

They use a lot of robotics and tele-operated maintenance, which are annoying to fight, but tend to be very small and just incredibly numerous.

But at any time, a fucking dragon can emerge through one of the travel corridors and attack.
 
Extrasolar Scouting Report.
Vermillion Clearance.
To be presented to the War Council.

Name
: The Rykogene
Physiology:
A reptilian-analogue species measuring between two and thirty meters depending on age, with a circumference of up to two metres. Rykogene age and reproduce slowly, but seems to grow indefinitely until killed through failure to molt.
Technology:
The Rykogene possess advanced technology based upon reverse-engineered Golden Age technology. Their ships are at least five times the size of Imperial equivalents to account for the size of the Rykogene. The warrior caste of the Rykogene have their limbs removed and are encased in suits of powered armour that is propelled through gravitic manipulation. Individuals have been observed operating in the role of strikecraft and corvettes. They operate advanced laser weaponry and missile systems.
Warp capability:
Speeds can theoretically match Imperial warp drives, but lacks Navigators and must make slow distance jumps.
Psychic ability:
Genetic capacity for Psychic ability minimal with signs of genetic engineering to reduce capacity. Rykogene culling of human psykers on subjugated worlds implies anti-psyker stance.
Description
The Rykogene operates from the Betelgeuse system, currently basing themselves out of a moon-sized orbital habitat that functions as the Rykogene capital. They occupy twenty human worlds within warp-neighbouring systems, spread out over twelve neighbouring star systems.
The Rykogene have been bloodied in a war with the Fra'al over control of the Polaris system and its warp routes, which the later had taken from a Cymoeba presence. A fifth of the Rykogene fleet is engaged in a war with the Ork empire of Gitguzzla, clashing occasionally against an unaligned as of yet unconfirmed alien race also fighting the Orks.
Threat:
The enemy has a fleet able to engage up to two times their tonnage in Imperial vessels, and matches any single Legion Expeditionary Fleet.
War plan:
The Ninth Legion will engage the Rykogene fleet engaged with the Orks to drive them to Betelgeuse, before destroying the Ork empire and pushing towards the galactic north. Following this, the Seventh Legion will deploy across all star systems warp-bordering Betelgeuse for Compliance operations and to stop any breakout attempts.
The Imperator Somnium will then, when available, lead the First, Second, and Sixth Legions in the invasion of Betelgeuse and the final destruction of the foe.
Anyway, the Rykogene are interesting.

Not just because they're cool dragons (who doesn't love dragons), but also because of the line I underlined.
The Rykogen cull psychic humans. By implication, they do not cull humans in general. They're not, in fact, a xenocidal species like the Cymoeba appeared to be, but seem intend to hold humanity around for a prolonged period of time.

In theory, a more xenophilic Emperor could use them as allies of convenience. Certainly, the opportunity exists, an Ork Empire nearby makes for a common and dangerous foe. But instead, we see that we're using the Orks as a way to ambush the Rykogene, in essence, unleashing a less reasonable foe to make achieve tactical supremacy easier. It's a neat illustration of the Imperium's way not always being the best.

Oh, and before you say "what if they use humans as slaves". Well, Mars has servitors. Clearly human rights are not grounds for objection to an allianec.
 
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I will go and asume, for the sake of explanation of why this feel...weird.

Sure bad thing happen, yes the setting is very....light on genocide and very casual with it but your post is getting...weirdly specific about it, you are very no much helping your case....at all.
Trutfly I dont see why every person on this Sub Is so against I mean everyone Here Is leading a charecter in a genocidel setting in the one of the most genocidel regiems ever and they are uncomfortable with deatiled management of genocide. I mean they know we are going to be exsterminating dosen of inocent xeno races and this Is the part that Bothers them and not the dosen genocides they Will help make in character.
 
I'm actually kind of curious about the mentions of the Fra'al. Will they show up "on screen"? Also I vaguely remember hearing about them once, are they from cannon 40k or another setting or are they original?
 
@Gavran
Shut up. No ifs. No butts. No anything. Bring this up again, and I will have you threadbanned.

Yes, xenocide happened in the Great Crusade, but it is even in the books never particularly expanded upon or gone into detail, because it serves no narrative purpose beyond misery porn. Most of them saying the Imperium Exterminatus'd the alien core worlds and the like.

There will not be 'mechanics' for that, and I don't want you to bring it up again. This should not be a difficult concept to grasp.
 
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Extrasolar Scouting Report.
Vermillion Clearance.
To be presented to the War Council.

Oooh, shiny new special info.

Name: The Rykogene
Physiology:
A reptilian-analogue species measuring between two and thirty meters depending on age, with a circumference of up to two metres. Rykogene age and reproduce slowly, but seems to grow indefinitely until killed through failure to molt.

Okay, so they go from six feet and NINETY feet...I think people have gotten a wee bit distracted with the ninety feet bit.

Huh, so they are at least part lobster with that need to molt :p

Technology:
The Rykogene possess advanced technology based upon reverse-engineered Golden Age technology. Their ships are at least five times the size of Imperial equivalents to account for the size of the Rykogene. The warrior caste of the Rykogene have their limbs removed and are encased in suits of powered armour that is propelled through gravitic manipulation. Individuals have been observed operating in the role of strikecraft and corvettes. They operate advanced laser weaponry and missile systems.

So they're a race that uplifted themselves through human or other non Rykogene tech. Hmmm, this could present opportunities for us to see if they made improvements, or have gaps in defenses both hardware and software from missing little details.

...So they go the Mech route from Xcom, neat.

The smaller versions operate as normal ship crews while the larger versions work as fighters/bombers/interceptors and corvettes.

Main weapons are lasers and missiles...hmm, should be doable to take them down.

Warp capability:
Speeds can theoretically match Imperial warp drives, but lacks Navigators and must make slow distance jumps

So we have an advantage in strategic movement and being able to highway to hell around faster but in tactical combat we're evenly matched.

Psychic ability:
Genetic capacity for Psychic ability minimal with signs of genetic engineering to reduce capacity. Rykogene culling of human psykers on subjugated worlds implies anti-psyker stance.

Huh...so the lack of navi genes and ability to highway to hell was a deliberate choice...can't say I blame them.

Also I see why we are going after these guys, no xeno shall conquer or rule over humanity! Bad spez danger noodle!

Description
The Rykogene operates from the Betelgeuse system, currently basing themselves out of a moon-sized orbital habitat that functions as the Rykogene capital. They occupy twenty human worlds within warp-neighbouring systems, spread out over twelve neighbouring star systems.
The Rykogene have been bloodied in a war with the Fra'al over control of the Polaris system and its warp routes, which the later had taken from a Cymoeba presence. A fifth of the Rykogene fleet is engaged in a war with the Ork empire of Gitguzzla, clashing occasionally against an unaligned as of yet unconfirmed alien race also fighting the Orks.

Huh...they don't even have a homeworld? I doubt that, so either this is a group of Rykogene that are operating as their own polity or they lost their homeworld and are setting up here as a result.

They have twenty human worlds huh? That's going to be a nice boost to the Imperium, especially after they are free.

Okay, now I have to wonder who the Fra'al are, and I'm curious if the Rykogene actually took the Polaris system from the Fra'al. As it just says they were bloodied in a war over control of the system, nothing saying they succeeded in the endeavor. Also interesting that this might be what blocked off the Cymoeba from being able to back up the infestation on Proteus.

A three way war with the Orks, and another race ALSO fighting the orks...Kinda feel like taking out the Rykogene is going to create more fires that will immediately need to be put out...Very fitting for the Great Crusade, aka galactic whackamole with shipfleets.

Threat:
The enemy has a fleet able to engage up to two times their tonnage in Imperial vessels, and matches any single Legion Expeditionary Fleet.

So they need at LEAST a 2 to 1 advantage to be matched, and if we want to win, we need to have three to one odds. With the space marine fleets it's a 1 to 1 to match them but 2 to 1 for any level of advantage.

War plan:
The Ninth Legion will engage the Rykogene fleet engaged with the Orks to drive them to Betelgeuse, before destroying the Ork empire and pushing towards the galactic north. Following this, the Seventh Legion will deploy across all star systems warp-bordering Betelgeuse for Compliance operations and to stop any breakout attempts.
The Imperator Somnium will then, when available, lead the First, Second, and Sixth Legions in the invasion of Betelgeuse and the final destruction of the foe.

Okay this is where I start being concerned.

The Ninth legion will be trying to cut off the Rykogene fleet from their fight with the orks and drive them to their home system, and then turning around to take on the orks...

Perhaps it is just me, but wouldn't it be better to cut off the Rykogene fleet from their home system and drive them before us into the orks in order to cause the two groups to fight each other one last time and then keep riding the momentum to drive the orks to the Galactic north? This prevents the Ninth legion from having to not only push the Rykogene troops and vessels closer to their main HQ and shortening their logistics, making them stronger the closer they get, and instead puts the Rykogene in the position of being outnumbered by their enemies in total, cut off from their supply lines and suffering therein from supply shortages, and it keeps the Orks pinned down by 2 other xeno races rather than rushing to keep up with the 'scrappy lizzards' or something.

The seventh legion setting up for a sector wide blockade and taking over the human worlds seems fitting.

Big war ship leading the not dark angels, the...SECOND LEGION?! We get to see the second legion? I am now VERY curious.

Oh hey, the notspacewulves are going to be here too....I am going to laugh if we end up making friends with them too in being the Francs so fanceh they can get along with any barbarians.
 
The Ninth legion will be trying to cut off the Rykogene fleet from their fight with the orks and drive them to their home system, and then turning around to take on the orks...

Perhaps it is just me, but wouldn't it be better to cut off the Rykogene fleet from their home system and drive them before us into the orks in order to cause the two groups to fight each other one last time and then keep riding the momentum to drive the orks to the Galactic north? This prevents the Ninth legion from having to not only push the Rykogene troops and vessels closer to their main HQ and shortening their logistics, making them stronger the closer they get, and instead puts the Rykogene in the position of being outnumbered by their enemies in total, cut off from their supply lines and suffering therein from supply shortages, and it keeps the Orks pinned down by 2 other xeno races rather than rushing to keep up with the 'scrappy lizzards' or something.
In the wider context, the 9th Legion are being aimed through the scrum of the Orks and the Xenos empires they are warring with, into the Galactic north. They are being launched as a fire and forget weapon.

It is just intended that on the way there, the 9th Legion punches through the Rykogene and destroys that specific fleet, making it so the 7th Legion is able to fortify the systems bordering Betelgeuse until the Imperium is able to gather the strength to crack that specific system.

The Somnium is needed to break the Rykogene with good odds, but it is unknown when it will be available, hence the plans to encircle them until the ship is available.
 
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In the wider context, the 9th Legion are being aimed into the scrum of the Orks and the Xenos empires they are warring with, and being launched as a fire and forget weapon. It is just intended that on the way there, the 9th Legion punches through the Rykogene and destroys that specific fleet, making it so the 7th Legion is able to fortify the systems bordering Betelgeuse until the Imperium is able to gather the strength to crack that specific system.


Which makes sense, but I feel like that lends itself more towards my strat of keeping the Rykogene fleet isolated in that scrum rather than bringing them back to Betelgeuse to add to the odds facing against the Somnium.
 
Which makes sense, but I feel like that lends itself more towards my strat of keeping the Rykogene fleet isolated in that scrum rather than bringing them back to Betelgeuse to add to the odds facing against the Somnium.
True. But the hope is that by driving them into the same system, the Imperium can kill them all in one go, instead of dealing with a fleet of angry survivors fleeing into deep space.
 
True. But the hope is that by driving them into the same system, the Imperium can kill them all in one go, instead of dealing with a fleet of angry survivors fleeing into deep space.
I mean, that's implying the orks and the other xenos will give them away, and even if they did, they're still an isolated fleet with limited supplies except what they can steal, scavenge or jury rigg surrounded by enemies with no safe haven. They'll bleed ships and crew in short order, especially with the slower FLT they have compared to humanity and the other races. Humanity can more easily get ahead of them, or even respond to raids.
 
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