Shattered Justice (A Persona Quest)
- Thread starter SeekerofDreams
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Jack of Olives
Rolled a '3' on their Con score
- Location
- The land of fruits and nuts (California)
[X] Just run right past them!
*shrug* If it's time-sensitive... well, 'discretion is the better part of valor' and all.
*shrug* If it's time-sensitive... well, 'discretion is the better part of valor' and all.
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
We're gonna get our asses kicked aren't we?
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
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SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
All right. Best way to deal with Shadows in the way of an objective? Just ignore them, they'll forget about you within the next minute or so.
At the very least, from where you're positioned, so long as you keep moving they're not your problem. Akihiko, on the other hand...
-Vote Closed!-
At the very least, from where you're positioned, so long as you keep moving they're not your problem. Akihiko, on the other hand...
Priestess- Part 3
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
You think Mitsuru-san says something about time. At least, you assume she's the reason numbers and equations are currently flashing through your mind at an increasingly desperate rate- nothing like the calmly structured sentences she normally gives you.
And, okay, if that's how she's currently broadcasting, while you don't get the whole message, you understand that moving quickly is probably a good idea.
No time to sort through this, just get going!
No need to tell you twice. You ignore the Shadows that pool into various shapes in front of you- if they wanted to fight, they should have done so at just about any other point- and run past, careful not to trip over the length of your spear.
Akihiko-san throws a bit of lightning backwards at them, you think. You can't tell for sure, but you assume that's what the flash of light behind you means. Cerberus is out, too, you assume Koromaru has decided to consign your attackers to eternal darkness.
Still, you are past those Shadows. They're not your problem anymore.
...They may still be Akihiko-san's problem, actually, but you're pretty sure they wouldn't bother him if he just ignored them. He's just excited after not having had any good fights for a month.
In hindsight, him coming along might not have been the best idea.
But was there anything that could have stopped him?
...Probably not. The fact is, no matter how much better Akihiko-san has gotten about thinking before he does stuff, you don't think there actually is anything he finds as fun as the battlefield. Which should probably serve as some kind of warning sign, if you're being fully honest with yourself.
So. He's busy. He summons Caesar roughly the second there's enough room for him to do so, and at that point you decide to just ignore him entirely unless he shows signs of needing healing. Which he'd better not. He's only just healed from the last time. Mitsuru-san and Shinjiro-san would kill him.
Mitsuru-san either isn't saying anything, is too incoherent to sort out at the moment, isn't broadcasting to you, or has somehow been drowned out by everything else. You aren't sure which it is, but you're going to assume she's at least trying to give some direction to the ones actually throwing attacks, who have so far managed to earn the ire of literally every Shadow you've passed.
A lot of them, admittedly, have died. You can hear the Mudo spells make contact, and it's not like you don't know what, exactly, they do. Not when you can do the same thing using its elemental opposite.
Also, you aren't sure any of the Shadows are equipped to stand up against webbing lightning bolts. So those two should be fine. So you ignore the fairly one-sided battle behind you and keep going.
And then you reach the front of the train.
The Shadow covers the whole front of the train, the only splash of color on her body being the bright magenta mask she wears. The air around her is extremely cold, something along the lines of Mitsuru-san when she's... well, you wouldn't say upset. That would vastly understate the amount of distress Mitsuru-san would need to be in to allow her magic this much free reign.
...There's going to be a big patch of ice back at the station, isn't there?
You haven't seen any frost on the windows, but... it's not like you've had time to be looking.
Ken's HP: 75/75
Ken's SP: 130/130
Nihil Spear power: 84
Nihil Spear accuracy: 34
[ ] Attack
-[ ] With Nihil Spear
-[ ] With Card Scalpel
[ ] Focus on Bless spells.
[ ] Focus on lightning spells.
[ ] Just throw Cruel Attacks at her.
[ ] Just... make sure the others don't die.
And, okay, if that's how she's currently broadcasting, while you don't get the whole message, you understand that moving quickly is probably a good idea.
No time to sort through this, just get going!
No need to tell you twice. You ignore the Shadows that pool into various shapes in front of you- if they wanted to fight, they should have done so at just about any other point- and run past, careful not to trip over the length of your spear.
Akihiko-san throws a bit of lightning backwards at them, you think. You can't tell for sure, but you assume that's what the flash of light behind you means. Cerberus is out, too, you assume Koromaru has decided to consign your attackers to eternal darkness.
Still, you are past those Shadows. They're not your problem anymore.
...They may still be Akihiko-san's problem, actually, but you're pretty sure they wouldn't bother him if he just ignored them. He's just excited after not having had any good fights for a month.
In hindsight, him coming along might not have been the best idea.
But was there anything that could have stopped him?
...Probably not. The fact is, no matter how much better Akihiko-san has gotten about thinking before he does stuff, you don't think there actually is anything he finds as fun as the battlefield. Which should probably serve as some kind of warning sign, if you're being fully honest with yourself.
So. He's busy. He summons Caesar roughly the second there's enough room for him to do so, and at that point you decide to just ignore him entirely unless he shows signs of needing healing. Which he'd better not. He's only just healed from the last time. Mitsuru-san and Shinjiro-san would kill him.
Mitsuru-san either isn't saying anything, is too incoherent to sort out at the moment, isn't broadcasting to you, or has somehow been drowned out by everything else. You aren't sure which it is, but you're going to assume she's at least trying to give some direction to the ones actually throwing attacks, who have so far managed to earn the ire of literally every Shadow you've passed.
A lot of them, admittedly, have died. You can hear the Mudo spells make contact, and it's not like you don't know what, exactly, they do. Not when you can do the same thing using its elemental opposite.
Also, you aren't sure any of the Shadows are equipped to stand up against webbing lightning bolts. So those two should be fine. So you ignore the fairly one-sided battle behind you and keep going.
And then you reach the front of the train.
The Shadow covers the whole front of the train, the only splash of color on her body being the bright magenta mask she wears. The air around her is extremely cold, something along the lines of Mitsuru-san when she's... well, you wouldn't say upset. That would vastly understate the amount of distress Mitsuru-san would need to be in to allow her magic this much free reign.
...There's going to be a big patch of ice back at the station, isn't there?
You haven't seen any frost on the windows, but... it's not like you've had time to be looking.
Ken's HP: 75/75
Ken's SP: 130/130
Nihil Spear power: 84
Nihil Spear accuracy: 34
[ ] Attack
-[ ] With Nihil Spear
-[ ] With Card Scalpel
[ ] Focus on Bless spells.
[ ] Focus on lightning spells.
[ ] Just throw Cruel Attacks at her.
[ ] Just... make sure the others don't die.
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
[X] Focus on Bless spells.
Kouha till the cows come home!
Kouha till the cows come home!
Jack of Olives
Rolled a '3' on their Con score
- Location
- The land of fruits and nuts (California)
I think this thing is immune to Light. Let's go with:
[] Focus on lightning spells.
-[] If the others obviously need healing, heal them, otherwise focus on attacking.
Edit: Good point. Let's stick with testing it.
[X] Test Kouha, if it doesn't do anything use Zio instead.
-[X] If the others obviously need healing, heal them, otherwise focus on attacking.
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Kkutlord
Prince of Breath
- Location
- Indianapolis, Indiana
I don't remember where, but I think Seeker mentioned a possible Resistance difference between the Normal & Instant-Kill Bless/Curse Spells. Very least, this is something SEES needs to know in-universe, as I'm not sure they're aware Bless spells can be resisted.
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
I still don't get the obsession with ignoring our main element affinity if it isn't allowed to insta-kill everything.
Kkutlord
Prince of Breath
- Location
- Indianapolis, Indiana
Less "Everything" and more "Bosses", since from my experience very few enemies are difficult or annoying enough to merit Hama/Mudo. Basically, the only things that Hama would be useful against are the very enemies immune to it.
Thus, why train-up our Bless Spells if they're consistently going to be less useful than Zio or even Psi? We would be able to exploit Elec Weakness more often, whereas nothing should have Psi Resistance besides The Reaper.
Unless a distinction is made between "Normal" and "Instant-Kill", Ken's Bless Spells are more useful for the Channeling Tricks / mundane utility. That, and unless Ken's Bless Affinity makes those spells stronger, there's not much difference between Kouha/Zio/Psi when dealing with neutral resistance.
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
...ah yes. Kouha is clearly an instant kill spell. Thank you for enlightening me on this information.
Sarcasm by the way. Of course there's a damned distinction. You're blatant bias against it is aggrivating though.
Kkutlord
Prince of Breath
- Location
- Indianapolis, Indiana
... Were you accusing me of sarcasm? Otherwise I'm not sure your point, since I never said Kouha and Hama were the same. All I did was point out Kouha would be useless on bosses (and limited value in general) unless a distinction is made for Instant Kills. Kouha and Eiha weren't a thing in P3, after all, so "assume the same resistances as Hama/Mudo until proven otherwise" isn't weird.
Imm pretty sure there are custom dungeons here, as I think the library will be an example in a week or so when rescuing Futaba, and I'm pretty sure the strongest Psychic persona in 5 was Indian.
This is a good plan, I second it. Probably won't work here considering that Light is quite close to faith, but always good to try out. Besides, whatever Lightning damage we could have dealt out, Akihiko will sure as hell match, if not double.
Also, I missed it by almost an hour, but this marked the 10 year anniversary of Minato's death. May he Rest In Peace.
Of course it is. Having the resistance cover the entire element instead of just the insta-kill spells is shoddy game design.
Kkutlord
Prince of Breath
- Location
- Indianapolis, Indiana
Eh, we don't even have access to Psi Spells yet anyways, so I don't see why Seeker would put in so much effort regarding Psi Resistance until it becomes relevant.
I mean, I did say I think Seeker mentioned a possible distinction, but I don't see the Pre-P5 enemies getting their Bless/Curse Resistances modified too much. More likely Kouha/Eiha just wouldn't trigger the flat-out Immunity, with little to no retconning of enemy resistances.
Ultimately, I think Phoenix's idea is more likely: that the original dungeons/encounters are where we'll see changes, as it would be easier than going through the entire enemy lists of P3/P4 to decide who gets a Bless/Curse (and Psychic/Nuclear) Weakness.